Thanks for your time posting this! It's always nice to take a trip in the wayback machine to have a look at yesteryear. The once very common becomes the now obsolete, your C41 process mention sure brings back memories!
You know I always wondered how those cartridges were assembled as I never in the past had the opportunity to take one apart. So I didn't know whether the little plastic reel that the film came back on was actually inside the cartridge or not. these were these commodities that we use back in the day when we were shooting on these film cameras it was only used once and then it went to the lab where it was broken apart and the rest of the plastic at the time I'm sure was either incinerated or went to the landfill. I highly doubt they were reusing the plastic that formed the cartridge 50 years ago. so I had never seen the inside of one either that was a first for me and I figured I would show it to you guys so that you guys can see it too.
Sorry, but you may have been misinformed about a couple of things. First, when sent in for processing, no one cracked it open, they actually used a machine that extracted the film, in total darkness, by pulling the film out of the front opening and spooling it onto a reel that was then routed to the developing equipment. Believe it or not, an image could still be made with that old film. I recently shot stock with a “process by” date of 1972. It’s only possible to develop as black & white, but you’d be surprised at how long film can last and still - kind of - work. I enjoy your channel man!
The hub had a 1 way clutch so I don't see how that is possible. I know for 35mm stills they had a machine that extracted the film as I know someone that ran a land he showed me the process. He would pull the leader out and attatch it to a header that was then fed into the processor in total darkness. Just assumed that they would use a tool that would split the cartridge and extract the hub. Never been in or seen a movie film processing lab just stills. I know for the 126 and 110 cartridges they used to snap them open in the darkroom.
@@12voltvids, with the Super 8 cartridges, turning the dial on the side in reverse until it clicks breaks the end off of where the film is anchored to the inner spindle/reel. Then the film is extracted from the cart out of the front. It’s how most of us do it by hand when developing our own film. I’m not sure but I think the machine did that just prior to pulling the film out. But hey.. I could be wrong! I should ask my friend who retired from 40 years at Kodak. Not that it matters, but I’ve always wondered if Kodak re-used the outer Super 8 cartridges after the process. Most likely not, as society in general loved to add tons of plastic to the garbage dumps.
@@flyingo well that makes sense. I never really looked that closely. When my dad was using super 8 I never really played with the camera. I used it a bit when I tried my hand at film making in late 70s. Moved to video in 80s
I did tear the wolverine apart back when I got it. You may have to search because there are a few videos on my channel but if you look it's there and you can search for it. Just go in the search bar and type in wolverine 12voltvids and you'll find it. I didn't take the camera section or anything out of it I just took the back off to show what's in it and there's not really much in the back of it. Little stepper motor couple gears little circuit board. Then I had to listen to all the people complaining and whine about how little there was in there for what it cost. I guess the same people that complain about the price of Bose.
I never knew what super 8 looked like, when i was a baby 1966/67 ish, my dad and family went down the local park and filmed us with his super 8. Super 8 seemed very short in filming, there were 3 or more sections to the film, they were not cheap. I never knew how the film was stored, now i do :-D Mind you, in the many many years after, he had them transfered to video by a man with a video camera and attachment to capture the film. Lucky as the film just fell apart over the years, very brittle and the transfer made a mess of the colours. Never mind, i have it on tape and dvd now. Sorry dave long waffle.
Super 8 came on 50 ft cartridges which is what I just showed. That store is about 3 minutes of film at 18 frames per second. Yes it was expensive. When I played around with film back in the late seventies, a film that I will dig up and scan and put it up at some point. It's just me and some of my buddies riding our dirt bikes down on the beach and I think there's some footage of a supercross race that I went to. Not one that I actually raced in though although I did race Motocross when I was a teenager. Anyway back in 7879 when I made this little film a 3-minute roll of film back then was around 20 or $25 it was expensive. Of course then video took over and buried film. I was a very early adopter for video. My first portable video recorder, I wish I still had it but it broke and I tossed it, was a system by akai, used a quarter inch open reel tape had a black and white camera that plugged into it and a small little 3 in black and white monitor that clip to the side of the recorder so you can play it back. The tape it used was quarter inch video tape which look just like quarter inch audio tape but was different. Being young and dumb and only about 16 at the time when I bought this thing I bought it used, I loaded a 5 inch reel of audio tape on it not realizing that the tape for audio was much too abrasive and I wore the video heads out in a very short order and the parts were not available to fix it. I remember and this is before I was in the service business maybe one of the things that spurred me to get into the service business was taking it down to akai service paying them a lot of money to fix it and only having it work for a very short time before it broke down again. It was maybe only a month that it worked if that, I took it back only to have the guy tell me after charging me another estimate fee that they couldn't fix it because the part that it failed was one of these encapsulated orange epoxy modules and the part was not available. That was the end of that. Just after I had paid them a couple hundred dollars to change the heads that I wore out from using the wrong tape and buying a real of the correct tape for 50 bucks. That's right $50 for a 5-in reel of quarter inch video tape that would run 60 minutes. I think there's a recording of my sister riding her horse on that tape unfortunately before I could even play it back the machine broke again and it stayed broken.
@@12voltvids What a dam shame :-( The tech that first fixed the heads should have questioned you. Easy to ruin things when no one is kind enough to tell you. Only years later you realise what a pillock you were at the time. But we all make mistakes, but some people hide the fact that they are infallible like the rest of the human race.
@@zx8401ztv he did tell me. I bought it used from a guy that volunteered at the same community station that I was at the time he didn't tell me that it required special tape when I bought it. I wore out the heads quickly. The service guy told me that and changed me a small Fortune which was probably two or three hundred dollars to change the head and sell me the correct tape only to have only a month or so later a part fail that was not available. Sat in the shop for 6 months and then they called and said they couldn't fix it.
@@12voltvids i would have been well pissed off. My first vcr was a second hand jvc piano key. It came from a friend (well thats what i thought). It started to play up after month. I knew bugger all about vcr's at the time . My so called friend said there was a good and cheap shop in coventry, that would fix it. It worked but i got pissed off after 5 returns back to the shop. I bought a book on vcr systems video recorder. " Servicing video recorder equipment by steve beeching" That helped me a lot, i learnt basically how it worked. I fixed the problems with my vcr, well worth a good read :-D
Got some news for you that I found out early last year, Surprise! Kodak still makes and develops this format to this day. It is being marketed to Universities that have Department in Cinema and Movies! Kodak was even talking about releasing a new Digital Super 8 camera that utilizes a modern LCD viewfinder while filming on super 8 film. They send the film to their New York processing plant where they return to you not only the film as well as a digitized copy. I would hate to see the cost of this service today! And yes I still have my Kodak Super 8 camera…….I wonder if it still works (not). This is a very interesting video, I always wondered what magic they had in that little case.
No wrong. They make c41 negative film and still process that. That don't make Kodachrome reversal film anymore. You can also buy black and white film. I did some transfers a few years back for a guy that just wanted to play with it. The cost is over the moon. 50 feet of color negative film costs about 100 for the film, processing and shipping to / from lab. Black and white is 60. That's for 3 minutes of film. He brought me 3 color and 4 black and white reels and asked me to guess what he paid. Was floored when he said just under 550 00. So no, nobody in their right mind is shooting film. The black and white version is the only one that can be projected directly. The negative film would need to be printed at an additional cost. These old rolls have been sitting for 50 years, so no, there is nothing recoverable on the film. It's expired. If you ever had a roll of expired film devoloped you will know what I mean. Even if it is only a few years past it's prime it's bad but 5 decades and it's gone.
I had some 35mm color film sitting around for 12 years went to take it for processing here in Crete about 8 years ago only to find all of the processors here in town had scrapped their Fuji Film 35mm processors (they did keep and still use the print processors to print from 35mm negatives) I about screamed! If I had known I would have had several for free! Anyways one shop sent the film out for me to the capitol of the island where there are several processors in business. I asked for prints from one roll and a proof sheet for the other. They processed the film and what I observed is that the colors were off scale compared to fresh film. It was a decent image but colors were no longer the bright colors we are used to. Now in the states there are many custom processors who can do some color correction when printing, but that back in the states. Any recommendations as to what is a decent Super 8 digitizer that has no restrictions as to how many reels of film it can process? Years ago I came across one company but they locked their machine to processing X number of reels before the electronics shut it down.
@@Subgunman I use a wolverine scanner and have almost 600 reels through it. No issues. Not aware of any shut down. Perhaps some brands cap the scans and then want more money. The way greedy companies have gotten lately and you can thank bill gates for that. He started that bullshit with apple and the apple sheeple bought into it so everyone is getting on the band wagon. Some car manufactures have now started making features like heated seats and steering wheels an optional monthly charge.
@@12voltvids I can still remember someone opening the back of my camera before we were going on a trip with film inside and the film was ruined I think there was some arguing then as it was a brand new roll that was just put back in.
just reading the comments brought back my memories of std 8mm, as I remember it was 16 mm film, as a commenter said was turned over at the end of the reel, finding shady spot to open the camera. And was split length ways after development and was spliced to make one film.
It was a dual roll. Your shot 25 feet turn the real over and shot the other 25 and when it came back from processing they'd split it down the middle and splice it together. It was 16 mm wide but the sprocket holes were closer than on 16mm film.
We had one! It was the only one we had. Before that we used regular 8mm film (Kodachrome 25) on little reels. It had to be turned over to expose the whole roll. Not with the Super 8. (No sound on any of ours)
My father-in-law shut all his whole movies on regular 8 mm. I've scanned many of his and put them on my channel as part of the buried treasures collection because he did a lot of traveling around with his camera and did some really nice pictures of scenery especially the old cars from back in the 1950s and 60s. He did a couple of sound films with his regular eight camera but back then there was no sound on cameras available. You recorded the sound separately on a regular tape recorder just like they do in the movies. Then what's the film was processed and you cut the pictures together the film was sent back to the lab where they glued on the magnetic soundtrack and sent it back to you at that point you recorded the sound using kodak's sound 8 mm projector. I have one that was my father-in-law's. If you look up the old film that I put up called Mr gullible has a toothache on my channel you will see one of the prize films that my father-in-law did in a competition. I explained on that video how they did it and still people don't get it. But shooting sound 8 mm film back in the 50s and 60s was no different than how Hollywood makes their films even to today. In the digital world they can record sound with the video on the picture but they still record sound separately and then mix in post.
No, the warranty is 12 months or 200 reels which ever occured first. This is for commercial operators that like me are using it for business. The average consumer won't have 200 reels of film. Even people with really big collections of film typically don't have that many. Most people took the little reels and spliced them into big reels. a business on the other hand could easily run 200 Reels though in less than a year. Mine has over 600 through it now, must 200 to 400 feet.
I will give you a little tip to get the best quality from The wolverine as I've learned over the years the way to get the best image from this unit. For starters don't use the take-up spool. Get a large box place it off the edge of your desk and let the film go through the scanner and drop into a box and then rewind it at the end of the box. The film won't tangle up they will just coil up in the box. This reduces all stress caused by the take-up school which can cause the film to slip slightly resulting in vertical instability. If the film is on those large aftermarket reels that have the fingers that grip the film. I've only seen it once or twice but they hold the edge of the film against the real which makes it tight. That can cause instability as well and the best way to resolve that is to wind it onto a looser fitting reel. The same thing can be said for reals that are warped such as the old metal ones that got bent. Every time a warped real rotates and it pinches the film it will cause instability. What happens is when the frame advancer moves to film and then releases it for the photo to be taken any tension pulling back on the film can cause it to slip back slightly resulting in an unstable picture. Another solution to that dilemma is to take the film off the damaged spool put it in a box let the film be picked up out of the box run through the scanner and dropped into another box. Because it puts literally no tension at all on the film as it's moving it through the optical path any tension placed on the film can cause it to slip. Every since I stopped using the take up spool and just let the film drop into a box the results improved 100%. Also if you don't threat it correctly it can cause some instability. The unit should be completely silent as the film is moving through the machine. If you hear it going tick tick tick or making any types of obvious noise that's a good indication that the film is not threaded properly. Mine to take up motor burned out so I don't even have that running anymore so it makes the machine that much quieter so it's really easy to hear if I haven't read it correctly. By threading correctly I mean having the film under the two little white tabs if you're not paying attention it's easy to have the film over one of the tabs and under the other and that will cause instability for sure
My info could be a little dated by now, but there might still be a few specialty places that will do a black and white processing on the type K40. One of the reasons the colored processing was discontinued some time ago, was due to the fact that the chemicals used were hazardous to the environment. I also had a K40 that was left in a camera that I picked up some time ago. Mind you, I've no idea what's on it either. It ended up becoming a sort of familiarization tool in the end, I guess.
Yes i know they can black and white process k40 but after 50 years the emulsion us rotton so when you try to process it all falls off and you are left with just a bunch of random grain. I sent a roll of film off that was about 20 years our of date and there was nothing there. This is 50 years plus old.
@@FindLiberty back in the day there were 2 processing labs. One in Vancouver and the other was Toronto. Out west we used Vancouver. They shut down in early 80s and then the only lab was Toronto untill they too called it quits.
How do you like your Wolverine? I have one, it does a pretty good job. Better then setting my projector up and projecting the image onto a white poster board on a wall and using my video camera on a tripod to record it.
Oh God yes projector and a screen are you kidding? I actually use that technique for 16 mil film because that's all I have for 16 mm but I also have a professional five blade shutter tell us any projector that came from a TV station which gives it absolutely flicker free flawless picture from 16 mil. I had a good optical system, in fact I still have it for 8 mm which uses a professional camera and a telesemite box and it's results aren't bad. The results however from The wolverine is so much better. The trick is setting it up correctly. That means not cropping the image on the unit itself. Yes I know they say it will do your film and you can play it directly and it will but the cropping feature is a digital zoom which reduces the image quality a little bit. Much better to scan the film at full frame which shows the edges the sprocket hole and a little bit of the frame above and below. Then take the resulting file load it on the computer and crop out the actual image. That way you can correct the color correct the speed and everything on the computer. The way I do it as I scan one reel, then take the memory card copy the file to the computer go back to the scanner start scanning the second reel and while the second real scans I'll let the computer work away at processing the first. 50 ft real takes 28 minutes to scan, takes computer around 10:00 to process and output corrected file. By the time I can go through and make any color corrections where necessary and output the file the next reel is finished and ready to process so I can keep the system running. It's pretty obvious that people are very happy with the results that I turn out because they keep bringing me more work. I do the films for one client and all of a sudden I've got their brothers and their sisters other family members showing up at my door with their films. If you wondered why there hasn't been many videos posted over the last couple of days it's because I've been too busy transferring over boxes upon boxes of films for clients. Now that I've finally caught up I can get back in the shop and do some work.
I remember when I was a kid finding my dad's super 8 camera and it was loaded. so I went and filmed a bunch of things that I thought was interesting from a 5-year-old's perspective. I had no idea how much that film cost and when you bought it at the time you were paying for the processing when you bought the roll of film which was probably about $10 for a 3-minute roll film I have no idea what it cost but I know it was a lot. My dad had bought some rolls of film you know to have for things like birthdays and Christmas and that type of stuff backyard fun in the pool etc and I would have used it all up taking pictures of bugs crawling around in flowers and the cat chasing another one or some of my silly friends doing stupid stunts like jumping off the roof into the pool. I wonder whatever happened to those films now that I think about it I'll have to see if I can find them because I know they all got sent away in processed and I got the belt to within about an inch of my life when the films came back and what was on them was not what they were purchased for. My dad had a temper in that respect and the belt came off real quick. The good old days when if you talked out a line at school you got sent to the principal's office and the principal had the strap. Then it became the yardstick, now meter stick. Hold your hands out and wack. These days time out time go stand in the corner like a lot of good that does back in my day you came home with a tanned ass and you remembered what was going to happen if you got out of line again.
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Thanks for your time posting this! It's always nice to take a trip in the wayback machine to have a look at yesteryear. The once very common becomes the now obsolete, your C41 process mention sure brings back memories!
You know I always wondered how those cartridges were assembled as I never in the past had the opportunity to take one apart. So I didn't know whether the little plastic reel that the film came back on was actually inside the cartridge or not. these were these commodities that we use back in the day when we were shooting on these film cameras it was only used once and then it went to the lab where it was broken apart and the rest of the plastic at the time I'm sure was either incinerated or went to the landfill. I highly doubt they were reusing the plastic that formed the cartridge 50 years ago. so I had never seen the inside of one either that was a first for me and I figured I would show it to you guys so that you guys can see it too.
You can process this as black and white.
That film had the Kennedy shooting on it!
It definitely is!! I recognise that cassette! The guy who filmed it left the lens cap on the whole time.
Don't laugh as one or 2 rolls that is exactly what happened.
Abraham Zapruder used a Bell & Howell camera back in the post cia MK-Ultra, "innocent" good old days.
@@FindLiberty my old camera was a Konica power zoom
Sorry, but you may have been misinformed about a couple of things. First, when sent in for processing, no one cracked it open, they actually used a machine that extracted the film, in total darkness, by pulling the film out of the front opening and spooling it onto a reel that was then routed to the developing equipment. Believe it or not, an image could still be made with that old film. I recently shot stock with a “process by” date of 1972. It’s only possible to develop as black & white, but you’d be surprised at how long film can last and still - kind of - work. I enjoy your channel man!
The hub had a 1 way clutch so I don't see how that is possible. I know for 35mm stills they had a machine that extracted the film as I know someone that ran a land he showed me the process. He would pull the leader out and attatch it to a header that was then fed into the processor in total darkness. Just assumed that they would use a tool that would split the cartridge and extract the hub. Never been in or seen a movie film processing lab just stills. I know for the 126 and 110 cartridges they used to snap them open in the darkroom.
@@12voltvids, with the Super 8 cartridges, turning the dial on the side in reverse until it clicks breaks the end off of where the film is anchored to the inner spindle/reel. Then the film is extracted from the cart out of the front. It’s how most of us do it by hand when developing our own film. I’m not sure but I think the machine did that just prior to pulling the film out. But hey.. I could be wrong! I should ask my friend who retired from 40 years at Kodak. Not that it matters, but I’ve always wondered if Kodak re-used the outer Super 8 cartridges after the process. Most likely not, as society in general loved to add tons of plastic to the garbage dumps.
@@flyingo well that makes sense. I never really looked that closely. When my dad was using super 8 I never really played with the camera. I used it a bit when I tried my hand at film making in late 70s. Moved to video in 80s
Cant wait to see the unit torn apart!
I did tear the wolverine apart back when I got it. You may have to search because there are a few videos on my channel but if you look it's there and you can search for it. Just go in the search bar and type in wolverine 12voltvids and you'll find it. I didn't take the camera section or anything out of it I just took the back off to show what's in it and there's not really much in the back of it. Little stepper motor couple gears little circuit board. Then I had to listen to all the people complaining and whine about how little there was in there for what it cost. I guess the same people that complain about the price of Bose.
Apparently Kodak still makes and sells Ektachrome colour reversal motion picture 35mm film, for professional use, and that uses E6 processing.
They also make it in super 8.. I shot a roll at my daughters graduation and it came out amazing
I never knew what super 8 looked like, when i was a baby 1966/67 ish, my dad and family went down the local park and filmed us with his super 8.
Super 8 seemed very short in filming, there were 3 or more sections to the film,
they were not cheap.
I never knew how the film was stored, now i do :-D
Mind you, in the many many years after, he had them transfered to video by a man with a video camera and attachment to capture the film.
Lucky as the film just fell apart over the years, very brittle and the transfer made a mess of the colours.
Never mind, i have it on tape and dvd now.
Sorry dave long waffle.
Super 8 came on 50 ft cartridges which is what I just showed. That store is about 3 minutes of film at 18 frames per second. Yes it was expensive. When I played around with film back in the late seventies, a film that I will dig up and scan and put it up at some point. It's just me and some of my buddies riding our dirt bikes down on the beach and I think there's some footage of a supercross race that I went to. Not one that I actually raced in though although I did race Motocross when I was a teenager. Anyway back in 7879 when I made this little film a 3-minute roll of film back then was around 20 or $25 it was expensive. Of course then video took over and buried film. I was a very early adopter for video. My first portable video recorder, I wish I still had it but it broke and I tossed it, was a system by akai, used a quarter inch open reel tape had a black and white camera that plugged into it and a small little 3 in black and white monitor that clip to the side of the recorder so you can play it back. The tape it used was quarter inch video tape which look just like quarter inch audio tape but was different. Being young and dumb and only about 16 at the time when I bought this thing I bought it used, I loaded a 5 inch reel of audio tape on it not realizing that the tape for audio was much too abrasive and I wore the video heads out in a very short order and the parts were not available to fix it. I remember and this is before I was in the service business maybe one of the things that spurred me to get into the service business was taking it down to akai service paying them a lot of money to fix it and only having it work for a very short time before it broke down again. It was maybe only a month that it worked if that, I took it back only to have the guy tell me after charging me another estimate fee that they couldn't fix it because the part that it failed was one of these encapsulated orange epoxy modules and the part was not available. That was the end of that. Just after I had paid them a couple hundred dollars to change the heads that I wore out from using the wrong tape and buying a real of the correct tape for 50 bucks. That's right $50 for a 5-in reel of quarter inch video tape that would run 60 minutes. I think there's a recording of my sister riding her horse on that tape unfortunately before I could even play it back the machine broke again and it stayed broken.
@@12voltvids What a dam shame :-(
The tech that first fixed the heads should have questioned you.
Easy to ruin things when no one is kind enough to tell you.
Only years later you realise what a pillock you were at the time.
But we all make mistakes, but some people hide the fact that they are infallible
like the rest of the human race.
@@zx8401ztv he did tell me. I bought it used from a guy that volunteered at the same community station that I was at the time he didn't tell me that it required special tape when I bought it. I wore out the heads quickly. The service guy told me that and changed me a small Fortune which was probably two or three hundred dollars to change the head and sell me the correct tape only to have only a month or so later a part fail that was not available. Sat in the shop for 6 months and then they called and said they couldn't fix it.
@@12voltvids i would have been well pissed off.
My first vcr was a second hand jvc piano key.
It came from a friend (well thats what i thought).
It started to play up after month.
I knew bugger all about vcr's at the time .
My so called friend said there was a good and cheap shop in coventry, that would fix it.
It worked but i got pissed off after 5 returns back to the shop.
I bought a book on vcr systems video recorder.
" Servicing video recorder equipment by steve beeching"
That helped me a lot, i learnt basically how it worked.
I fixed the problems with my vcr, well worth a good read :-D
@@zx8401ztv well no parts means no parts. Cost me alot of money when i was probably only 16 or 17
Got some news for you that I found out early last year, Surprise! Kodak still makes and develops this format to this day. It is being marketed to Universities that have Department in Cinema and Movies! Kodak was even talking about releasing a new Digital Super 8 camera that utilizes a modern LCD viewfinder while filming on super 8 film. They send the film to their New York processing plant where they return to you not only the film as well as a digitized copy. I would hate to see the cost of this service today! And yes I still have my Kodak Super 8 camera…….I wonder if it still works (not). This is a very interesting video, I always wondered what magic they had in that little case.
No wrong. They make c41 negative film and still process that. That don't make Kodachrome reversal film anymore. You can also buy black and white film. I did some transfers a few years back for a guy that just wanted to play with it. The cost is over the moon. 50 feet of color negative film costs about 100 for the film, processing and shipping to / from lab. Black and white is 60. That's for 3 minutes of film. He brought me 3 color and 4 black and white reels and asked me to guess what he paid. Was floored when he said just under 550 00. So no, nobody in their right mind is shooting film. The black and white version is the only one that can be projected directly. The negative film would need to be printed at an additional cost. These old rolls have been sitting for 50 years, so no, there is nothing recoverable on the film. It's expired. If you ever had a roll of expired film devoloped you will know what I mean. Even if it is only a few years past it's prime it's bad but 5 decades and it's gone.
I had some 35mm color film sitting around for 12 years went to take it for processing here in Crete about 8 years ago only to find all of the processors here in town had scrapped their Fuji Film 35mm processors (they did keep and still use the print processors to print from 35mm negatives) I about screamed! If I had known I would have had several for free! Anyways one shop sent the film out for me to the capitol of the island where there are several processors in business. I asked for prints from one roll and a proof sheet for the other. They processed the film and what I observed is that the colors were off scale compared to fresh film. It was a decent image but colors were no longer the bright colors we are used to. Now in the states there are many custom processors who can do some color correction when printing, but that back in the states. Any recommendations as to what is a decent Super 8 digitizer that has no restrictions as to how many reels of film it can process? Years ago I came across one company but they locked their machine to processing X number of reels before the electronics shut it down.
@@Subgunman I use a wolverine scanner and have almost 600 reels through it. No issues. Not aware of any shut down. Perhaps some brands cap the scans and then want more money. The way greedy companies have gotten lately and you can thank bill gates for that. He started that bullshit with apple and the apple sheeple bought into it so everyone is getting on the band wagon. Some car manufactures have now started making features like heated seats and steering wheels an optional monthly charge.
@@12voltvids I can still remember someone opening the back of my camera before we were going on a trip with film inside and the film was ruined I think there was some arguing then as it was a brand new roll that was just put back in.
@@12voltvids Have you ever seen the film were they use a cassette for the audio I have hana bar bera and disney to.
Would love to see that Film comparison that you scanned years ago against the Wolverine scan.
I will have to look for that tape again. I know where the film is, but I don't know where the VHS copy is off hand. It's on the tail end of something.
I like it old school
I love the new tech. I might be old but I have always liked the new tech.
just reading the comments brought back my memories of std 8mm, as I remember it was 16 mm film, as a commenter said was turned over at the end of the reel, finding shady spot to open the camera. And was split length ways after development and was spliced to make one film.
It was a dual roll. Your shot 25 feet turn the real over and shot the other 25 and when it came back from processing they'd split it down the middle and splice it together. It was 16 mm wide but the sprocket holes were closer than on 16mm film.
Still made and still used to this day. Absolutely gorgeous when projected
We had one! It was the only one we had. Before that we used regular 8mm film (Kodachrome 25) on little reels. It had to be turned over to expose the whole roll. Not with the Super 8. (No sound on any of ours)
My father-in-law shut all his whole movies on regular 8 mm. I've scanned many of his and put them on my channel as part of the buried treasures collection because he did a lot of traveling around with his camera and did some really nice pictures of scenery especially the old cars from back in the 1950s and 60s. He did a couple of sound films with his regular eight camera but back then there was no sound on cameras available. You recorded the sound separately on a regular tape recorder just like they do in the movies. Then what's the film was processed and you cut the pictures together the film was sent back to the lab where they glued on the magnetic soundtrack and sent it back to you at that point you recorded the sound using kodak's sound 8 mm projector. I have one that was my father-in-law's. If you look up the old film that I put up called Mr gullible has a toothache on my channel you will see one of the prize films that my father-in-law did in a competition. I explained on that video how they did it and still people don't get it. But shooting sound 8 mm film back in the 50s and 60s was no different than how Hollywood makes their films even to today. In the digital world they can record sound with the video on the picture but they still record sound separately and then mix in post.
Still get a little bit of flicker using the Wolverine but, it does a great job.
Is this the unit that the manufacture has a finite record life set into its electronics?
No, the warranty is 12 months or 200 reels which ever occured first. This is for commercial operators that like me are using it for business. The average consumer won't have 200 reels of film. Even people with really big collections of film typically don't have that many. Most people took the little reels and spliced them into big reels. a business on the other hand could easily run 200 Reels though in less than a year.
Mine has over 600 through it now, must 200 to 400 feet.
I will give you a little tip to get the best quality from The wolverine as I've learned over the years the way to get the best image from this unit. For starters don't use the take-up spool. Get a large box place it off the edge of your desk and let the film go through the scanner and drop into a box and then rewind it at the end of the box. The film won't tangle up they will just coil up in the box. This reduces all stress caused by the take-up school which can cause the film to slip slightly resulting in vertical instability. If the film is on those large aftermarket reels that have the fingers that grip the film. I've only seen it once or twice but they hold the edge of the film against the real which makes it tight. That can cause instability as well and the best way to resolve that is to wind it onto a looser fitting reel. The same thing can be said for reals that are warped such as the old metal ones that got bent. Every time a warped real rotates and it pinches the film it will cause instability. What happens is when the frame advancer moves to film and then releases it for the photo to be taken any tension pulling back on the film can cause it to slip back slightly resulting in an unstable picture. Another solution to that dilemma is to take the film off the damaged spool put it in a box let the film be picked up out of the box run through the scanner and dropped into another box. Because it puts literally no tension at all on the film as it's moving it through the optical path any tension placed on the film can cause it to slip. Every since I stopped using the take up spool and just let the film drop into a box the results improved 100%. Also if you don't threat it correctly it can cause some instability. The unit should be completely silent as the film is moving through the machine. If you hear it going tick tick tick or making any types of obvious noise that's a good indication that the film is not threaded properly. Mine to take up motor burned out so I don't even have that running anymore so it makes the machine that much quieter so it's really easy to hear if I haven't read it correctly. By threading correctly I mean having the film under the two little white tabs if you're not paying attention it's easy to have the film over one of the tabs and under the other and that will cause instability for sure
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My info could be a little dated by now, but there might still be a few specialty places that will do a black and white processing on the type K40. One of the reasons the colored processing was discontinued some time ago, was due to the fact that the chemicals used were hazardous to the environment.
I also had a K40 that was left in a camera that I picked up some time ago. Mind you, I've no idea what's on it either. It ended up becoming a sort of familiarization tool in the end, I guess.
Yes i know they can black and white process k40 but after 50 years the emulsion us rotton so when you try to process it all falls off and you are left with just a bunch of random grain. I sent a roll of film off that was about 20 years our of date and there was nothing there. This is 50 years plus old.
@@12voltvids Did you use Rocky Mountain Film Lab in Aurora CO 80010 USA ? IDK
@@FindLiberty back in the day there were 2 processing labs. One in Vancouver and the other was Toronto. Out west we used Vancouver. They shut down in early 80s and then the only lab was Toronto untill they too called it quits.
@@12voltvids Just wow... time flies!
@@FindLiberty every year seems to go faster and faster.
How do you like your Wolverine? I have one, it does a pretty good job. Better then setting my projector up and projecting the image onto a white poster board on a wall and using my video camera on a tripod to record it.
Oh God yes projector and a screen are you kidding? I actually use that technique for 16 mil film because that's all I have for 16 mm but I also have a professional five blade shutter tell us any projector that came from a TV station which gives it absolutely flicker free flawless picture from 16 mil. I had a good optical system, in fact I still have it for 8 mm which uses a professional camera and a telesemite box and it's results aren't bad. The results however from The wolverine is so much better. The trick is setting it up correctly. That means not cropping the image on the unit itself. Yes I know they say it will do your film and you can play it directly and it will but the cropping feature is a digital zoom which reduces the image quality a little bit. Much better to scan the film at full frame which shows the edges the sprocket hole and a little bit of the frame above and below. Then take the resulting file load it on the computer and crop out the actual image. That way you can correct the color correct the speed and everything on the computer. The way I do it as I scan one reel, then take the memory card copy the file to the computer go back to the scanner start scanning the second reel and while the second real scans I'll let the computer work away at processing the first. 50 ft real takes 28 minutes to scan, takes computer around 10:00 to process and output corrected file. By the time I can go through and make any color corrections where necessary and output the file the next reel is finished and ready to process so I can keep the system running. It's pretty obvious that people are very happy with the results that I turn out because they keep bringing me more work. I do the films for one client and all of a sudden I've got their brothers and their sisters other family members showing up at my door with their films. If you wondered why there hasn't been many videos posted over the last couple of days it's because I've been too busy transferring over boxes upon boxes of films for clients. Now that I've finally caught up I can get back in the shop and do some work.
Got in trouble when I ruined one when I was a kid
I remember when I was a kid finding my dad's super 8 camera and it was loaded. so I went and filmed a bunch of things that I thought was interesting from a 5-year-old's perspective. I had no idea how much that film cost and when you bought it at the time you were paying for the processing when you bought the roll of film which was probably about $10 for a 3-minute roll film I have no idea what it cost but I know it was a lot. My dad had bought some rolls of film you know to have for things like birthdays and Christmas and that type of stuff backyard fun in the pool etc and I would have used it all up taking pictures of bugs crawling around in flowers and the cat chasing another one or some of my silly friends doing stupid stunts like jumping off the roof into the pool. I wonder whatever happened to those films now that I think about it I'll have to see if I can find them because I know they all got sent away in processed and I got the belt to within about an inch of my life when the films came back and what was on them was not what they were purchased for. My dad had a temper in that respect and the belt came off real quick. The good old days when if you talked out a line at school you got sent to the principal's office and the principal had the strap. Then it became the yardstick, now meter stick. Hold your hands out and wack. These days time out time go stand in the corner like a lot of good that does back in my day you came home with a tanned ass and you remembered what was going to happen if you got out of line again.
Sir is there another way i can get your email besides youtube about tab, i cant find it.
No you'll have to go to the about tab I don't put my email in replies because of all the spam bots that troll the comments. I get enough spam as it is.
@@12voltvids will it show up on android?