I am eighty one years of age and watching this has me in tears of joy at what we had but very much tinged with a great sadness at what is lost to us. I am amazed at how I remember every bit of it like it was yesterday. I can sing along with it so much was the wonderful impression it had on my young mind all those years ago. Look at the reverence one can feel and the beautiful discipline of it all. Everyone concentrating on worshipping our beloved Lord.
@@Battler-cj4hr iam sorry but you don't understand the comment wake up silly response there talking about the mass you receiving communion on your knees and on your tounge men wear suits and women cover there heads and wear dresses no lay people passing out communion no piano or guitar the priest facing the blessed sacrament you can receieve communion in hand standing priest faces the people women wear pants and dont cover there head so the comment is return to tradition stop all modernism masses but its up to us people love modern mass and some like tradition but the fruits are proven the Latin mass has made a army of saints and missionaries now look abuse from priest irrevence from people people left the faith how could you not wat to return to tradition its over back to vactian 1 i love you all God bless .
Que hermosura de misa,esta es la misa que te eleva a Dios te une en cuerpo y alma gracias muchas gracias por subir esta maravilla desde España saludos cordiales 👏👏👏🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
O diabo até que tentou destrui-la. Altares de igrejas tradicionais deram lugar ao famigerado rito moderno. Igrejas tradicionais destruídas como na minha cidade, pra dar lugar a templos modernos grotescos, feios e cheio de vazio espiritual. Assim como descaracterizações, retirada física. templo antigamente tradicionais tomados por padrecos formados nesse rito novo abominavel que tem a alma mais mundana que satanás. Mas a missa de sempre nunca deixará de existir.
This Church is so beautiful we would have visited 25 years ago if we had really known about it beforehand!!!…. We hope the Priest was not injured for our sake…
This is beautiful. I wish I had seen this during the Lockdown pandemic, but at least I have saved it now. Thank you for recording this holy Mass. ✝️ Will save it and share! Praise God! 💜👌🏽
This was made in the year I was born….Im really surprised about the quality of the video most films from that time period are not to good or have the colors faded but this is excellent
This high Mass, together with the Low Mass that is celebrated by Fr. Michael Hollings at the same high altar, were filmed by professional film crews that were top-notch. The filming of these Masses was carefully planned and lovingly recorded to preserve them forever on video at a time when the Traditional Catholic Mass in Latin was in real danger of being wiped off the face of the earth.
From Italy, OREMUS PRO ECCLESIA.** God free us from false prophets and self-destruction. *We pray to remain Catholics faithful to Tradition * Prions pour l'Église! * OREMUS PRO CARDINALE ROBERTO SARAH!
This is a PreVATICAN 2 Mass From The MIssale Romanum Celebrated Prior To The NOVUS ORDO mass Of Paul the VI . This Style of Mass Was celebrated around the world and l remember it as l was very young .My Father brought me to it. Later The NOVUS ORDO mass Took Over and it is not the True Celebration . The SSPX PRESERVED IT And This is What IWill ONlY ACCEPT .😆😆😆👍👍
@@Jame243 In the '40's we attended Holy Mass - there was no other! In '62, the church's were still full and scarves, Sunday best, missals, rosary beads, silence and reverence were the order of the day. Only males attended altars, with multiples of altar, acolyte and choir boys and men singing beautiful hymns. It took forever to work though the lines for confession. Then, we had vat2, which spelled the death of the true rubrics, rites and liturgies, ending up with only a shadow - of this false church!
You should read more. Tridentine mass is made to standardize the mass celebrated at western world. Before the Tridentine mass was being enforced, the structure was similar but how it was celebrated and expressed was slightly different in the western world according to different places. That's what we lost in the Tridentine mass. Look up ambrosian rite and other rite at the western church. Vatican 2 is supposed to restore the faith after the standardization of rite using the tridentine. One more thing, novus ordo is called ordinary mass. And tridentine is called extraordinary mass in vatican 2. Ordinary mass because it has all the basic foundation of the liturgy. You can trace back with an early christian. It is the truest form of how it was celebrated in the early times by following the formula written by church fathers. Extraordinary mass (tridentine) is the mass celebrated in rome before vatican 2. It contains the culture's influence and tradition that's why it is called extraordinary because it shows our identity as roman catholic. Fyi, Vatican 2 hasn't been fulfilled yet. All catholics should obey and try to not compare novus ordo with tridentine. After novus ordo is accepted by roman catholic, then we can have extraordinary mass as our solemn mass one day in the future for big occasions. We need to preserve the sacredness of the extraordinary mass. It is our mission to make tridentine mass become an extraordinary mass. Because it holds a lot of history. Never says one rite is holier or more reverend than others. We have eastern catholics rite and other western rites which have been preserved well. All rites may look different but they hold the same foundation of all liturgy, same goes to novus ordo. Funny to see that eastern catholics bishops & priests come to rome and had no issue celebrating the novus ordo with the roman bishops & priests. Unfortunately, there are some people from roman catholic had issues with it. I believe it is the job of all parishioners and parish priests to make a novus ordo mass to be more reverence. Do not blame novus ordo for the secular music or whatever. It is the parishioners and parish priests task to decide what to have and what to not have by following vatican 2, it can be gregorian chant, modern musics, sing or no singing, etc. Everything is done by the community and the parish priests.. But still, I am thankful to SSPX & FSSP and i believe they should remain as the one who preserve the extraordinary mass until all roman catholic accepts the ordinary mass (novus ordo) then one day tridentine can be said as what vatican 2 states what it is- extraordinary mass. That's all. May God bless us all. It doesn't matter if you go to tridentine mass by SSPX or I go to Novus Ordo mass, let it not separate us as brothers and sisters in Christ and affect our relationship with others. We need to unite as catholics.
Vatican 2 especially novus ordo is meant to fulfill the revelation where all the faithful including laymen become more participate in the liturgy. The Church should grow, so that we won't repeat history. Plus, as long as it follows the tradition and doesn't contradict the deposit of faith left by the apostles, then it should be fine to have a girl altar server in novus ordo because it doesn't contradict the deposit of faith. but not in tridentine mass or other rites that has its own long tradition and already stated in the missal. I hope it's clear your misunderstanding. Fyi, there is a certain condition that can allow girl altar servers for novus ordo, but i forgot. It should be meant for boys only. Usually it depends on the local bishop on how they set the condition. The Eucharist minister does not contradict the deposit of faith, so it should be fine. But still, there are some conditions when eucharist ministers can be implemented based on the local bishop. Things that has been taken away by tridentine mass: - concelebration - receive communion by hands (which was practiced by some eastern churches) - receive the wine (got some exception, but i forgot) This practices already existed and was preserved well by the eastern world. Remember that eastern and western bishops used to celebrate mass together at rome, but it was because of previous popes, bishops and some dark history that happened to make us forget how a mass should be celebrated without thinking eastern or western rite, only think as one catholic and apostolic church. 😮😮😮 So hope you are clear. There is nothing removed by the church. Not all things have changed since vatican 2. It is just some additions that need to be made and certain conditions are required to allow it.
@@alexandrochansonbruce4074 I'm sorry to say that you have been deceived the NOVUS ORDO is the Abomination of DESOLATION what happened at VATICAN 2 is the Fulfilment of the Third secret of FATIMA when ANTIPOPE JOHN XX111 knew the secret but decided not to reveal it instead Called an Evil Ecumenical COUNCIL that has seen all the ABOMINATIONS to this day and all the Pope's from VATICAN 2 are ANTIPOPES, the reality is that,‼️ that you must reject NEW MASS, as it is not a CATHOLIC mass and it was Formulated by PROSTESTANT Ministers and ANIBALI BUGNINI who was A FREEMASON together with POPE JOHN XX111 who also was a FREEMASON! to this day it can be seen what is the result! If you want to save your soul and that of others you must adhere to the decrees set down and passed on in TRADITION by the CHURCH FATHERS to be TRADITIONAL is to be a TRUE CATHOLIC. If you have for some reason any doubt about anything I have mentioned then look into the PAPAL BULL of POPE PIUS V, QUO PRIMUM and you will learn what a TRUE POPE Has said on the matter of being ROMAN CATHOLIC and what CATHOLICS should HOLD on to keep the deposit of FAITH,,!
I heard once that there were so many Low Masses being said (for reasons of making Mass shorter) that the Vatican had to mandate at least one Mass per weekend be a High Mass.
There wasno "Ordinary Time" in the old calendar! You had instead the Trinity Season in the summer, and from Epiphany, January 6th up until Lent was Epiphany Season. Vatican II brought in the idea of "Ordinary Time."
@@2300enduserperson1 it has to do with Christs own words “Can you not watch with Me one hour?” This is why most Masses aim to be around an hour. The High Mass is slightly longer because of the music, and the ones I attend average about one hour and fifteen minutes: not an inordinate amount of time to spend with Jesus on a Sunday.
Where this mass had been celebrated? The church is very beautiful, Missa Papae Marcelli gives a wonderful atmosphere to this service. I wish one day attend such majestic celebration :)
Since the Sanctus of Missa Papae Marcelli is very long, is it allowed to cut the singing of it in case that the elevation of the body and blood of Our Lord is already approaching? This is the first time I watch such things to happen. Thank you. PS: That mass setting was very sublime and very uplifting. Gloria in excelsis Deo!
In the older custom, even when Gregorian chant is used for Sanctus, Sanctus is usually sung half ie Sanctus, Sanctus.....Pleni sunt caeli...Hosanna in Excelsis. Then the choir will remain quiet and kneel for the moment of Consecration. After the elevation of Chalice, then the choir will stand up to sing the other half of the Sanctus ie Benedictus qui venit in.....Hosanna in excelsis. Some choirs retain this custom (singing 1st half, kneel at consecration and then sing the other half after the consecration) not necessarily bcause they use the polyphonic Sanctus, which is obviously lengthy, but because it is always has been the custom.
I’d like to add a quick warning to this comment: it may come off as rough or very forceful, even though that is not my intention. This Mass is a masterwork of beauty. Can I witness this myself? No, not really. Do I care? Not at all. Why? Because this mass is beautiful in its own right, but Vatican II was important for the Church to modernize and expand. Additionally, Vatican II was not what changed the liturgy (that was a post-conciliar thing) but it was the most important council for deciding the future of the church too. All I ask is to please stop blaming the Mass on Vatican II, and if you don’t have a Vetus Ordo mass nearby, try the best to make the Novus Ordo as reverent as possible. Why? 1. Novus Ordo is valid. 2. The more you try to do to make the Novus Ordo reverent, the more sacrifice you are putting in personally to see to it. Sacrifice is worship. 3. The Vetus Ordo will not die. Even though Pope Francis has limited it, he refuses to ban it, for many reasons.
I have this on DVD from the Latin Mass Society of England and Wales. It was filmed at St Mary of the Angels, Bayswater, London W2. The Solemn High Mass was celebrated by Mgr John McDonald, with Fr Gordon Read as deacon, Fr Antony Conlon as subdeacon, Terry Worroll (director of music at St James's Church, Spanish Place, London) as organist and Claude Crozet directing the choir (who had come from the Church of Our Lady, St John's Wood, London). The Mass setting was Palestrina's 'Missa Papae Marcelli' and the Offertory motet was Victoria's 'O sacrum convivium'. The Low Mass was celebrated by Fr Michael Hollings.
@@stevensonrf Bach was a pious Lutheran, however once he was unsuccessfully applying for the job at the court of king August the Strong (he was a king of Poland at that time), who converted to Catholic religion. As a tribute to the monarch, Bach composed his mass in B minor, which was probably his only "Catholic" musical composition.
I was thinking the same thing but neither the FSSP or the SSPX are mentioned any where in the film. The Latin Mass Society is mentioned in the credits, so they may have gotten parish priests to offer the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.
It doesn't really matter. The Missale Romanum used in these Masses in this video is the 1962 edition, which is the edition still used in all Traditional Latin (Tridentine) Masses to this day. The previous edition of the Missale Romanum prior to 1962 was the 1947 edition.
The year 1962 does not refer to the year in which the mass video was celebrated. 1962 refers specifically to the missal that is used in the celebration of the traditional Latin mass.
I wondered this myself when I watched this many years ago and I guessed that the priest simply forgot it as he probably didn't celebrate the Tridentine Mass regularly. IMHO.
Del Ylsa ilse Ramona A G Jose Agustín p.m. hija Judith Natalia pa Josemaria p.a Romina Rebeca pa Javier David Pérez AVALOS del barrio Nazaret asunción Paraguay
MCHDMAFFin Comedy actually the veil is a sign of modesty. It’s a ancient tradition stretching back to the early Christians and was mandatory prior to Vatican 2 under the 1918 code of cannon law. Furthermore, St Paul writes in the book of corinthians that women should veil in church. So it’s backed up by scripture, tradition and the old code of cannon law. Pax!
Quit pretending that the "TLM" rite of 1962 is Tridentine or pre-Vatican II. It was promulgated just in time for VII and that's where it was used, not elsewhere or before. The fruits are now well known. Have some integrity.
I am eighty one years of age and watching this has me in tears of joy at what we had but very much tinged with a great sadness at what is lost to us. I am amazed at how I remember every bit of it like it was yesterday. I can sing along with it so much was the wonderful impression it had on my young mind all those years ago. Look at the reverence one can feel and the beautiful discipline of it all. Everyone concentrating on worshipping our beloved Lord.
Let us continue to pray that God will restore his church and the beauty of our ancient liturgy.
There is no doubt who they are worshiping and where there focus is...with GOD!
1962, the year of my baptism and confirmation into the Roman Catholic Faith. Most momentous Mass for me. Thank you so much. 🦅💞🕊️
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3/18/22.
Absolutely beautiful 😢 I cry for the church. Pray she may return to tradition and leave Vatican 2 behind her.
Pray for the Church🙏
Vatican II doesn't contradict Tradition.
@@Battler-cj4hr🤣😂😅 Except on ecumenism, religious liberty, Nostrae Aetate, etc.
@@Battler-cj4hr iam sorry but you don't understand the comment wake up silly response there talking about the mass you receiving communion on your knees and on your tounge men wear suits and women cover there heads and wear dresses no lay people passing out communion no piano or guitar the priest facing the blessed sacrament you can receieve communion in hand standing priest faces the people women wear pants and dont cover there head so the comment is return to tradition stop all modernism masses but its up to us people love modern mass and some like tradition but the fruits are proven the Latin mass has made a army of saints and missionaries now look abuse from priest irrevence from people people left the faith how could you not wat to return to tradition its over back to vactian 1 i love you all God bless .
Este rito es ilegítimo, porque está modificado por Roncali. El último rito legítimo es el del 55.
this is great, there are so few videos of solemn mass on youtube, thanks father.
largemarge1050 And, in my humble opinion, this is one of the best videos ever.
You're most welcome.
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Que hermosura de misa,esta es la misa que te eleva a Dios te une en cuerpo y alma gracias muchas gracias por subir esta maravilla desde España saludos cordiales 👏👏👏🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Esta Santa Missa nos leva até Deus..Com a graça de Deus é a minha Missa!!
O diabo até que tentou destrui-la. Altares de igrejas tradicionais deram lugar ao famigerado rito moderno. Igrejas tradicionais destruídas como na minha cidade, pra dar lugar a templos modernos grotescos, feios e cheio de vazio espiritual. Assim como descaracterizações, retirada física. templo antigamente tradicionais tomados por padrecos formados nesse rito novo abominavel que tem a alma mais mundana que satanás. Mas a missa de sempre nunca deixará de existir.
This Church is so beautiful we would have visited 25 years ago if we had really known about it beforehand!!!…. We hope the Priest was not injured for our sake…
Good Lord what have they done? I feel that a part of my heritage was stolen from me.
Sad but true😔
Because it was! Vatican II STOLE your spiritual inheritance!
Nice video showing the choir and the conductor while they sing! BRAVO!!!
Qué bella selebracion eucarística, mucho respeto a lo divino a lo que es la Santa Misa.
Se llama Misa. Celebración eucarística es una denominación modernista, que no aplica a la Misa de siempre.
This is beautiful. I wish I had seen this during the Lockdown pandemic, but at least I have saved it now. Thank you for recording this holy Mass. ✝️ Will save it and share! Praise God! 💜👌🏽
Beautiful die Hl. Messe aller Zeiten an sich. Plus Gregorianik und Orgelmusik ein Juwel. Was hat die Kirche aufgegeben.
This was made in the year I was born….Im really surprised about the quality of the video most films from that time period are not to good or have the colors faded but this is excellent
This high Mass, together with the Low Mass that is celebrated by Fr. Michael Hollings at the same high altar, were filmed by professional film crews that were top-notch. The filming of these Masses was carefully planned and lovingly recorded to preserve them forever on video at a time when the Traditional Catholic Mass in Latin was in real danger of being wiped off the face of the earth.
Magnificent! ✨️
Yes!
I remember when they sold scarves for Mass in the drugstore (Thrifty) in the 1960s.
We are unlucky to have lost a lot. it is not our fault.God will provide us from his infinite richness.
Holy priest, God bless him. 🙏
Esta es la santa y verdadera misa de nuestro señor jesucristo
OREMUS PRO ECCLESIA CATHOLICA, PRO VERA ECCLESIA. Saludos....from Italia
From Italy, OREMUS PRO ECCLESIA.** God free us from false prophets and self-destruction. *We pray to remain Catholics faithful to Tradition * Prions pour l'Église! * OREMUS PRO CARDINALE ROBERTO SARAH!
JESUS I TRUST IN YOU 🙏HAIL MARY 🙏❤
God bless all Amen 🙏🏻💞🌷🌷🌷🌷
My baptism and confirmation as Michele was at Holy Ghost Catholic Church, 1151 Cloister Street, Jackson, Mississippi 39201 I think.
Quel rêve ! ça a plus de profondeur que les séances de patronage des conciliaires avec leurs chauffeurs de salles.
Deo gratias.
This is a PreVATICAN 2 Mass From The MIssale Romanum Celebrated Prior To The NOVUS ORDO mass Of Paul the VI . This Style of Mass Was celebrated around the world and l remember it as l was very young .My Father brought me to it. Later The NOVUS ORDO mass Took Over and it is not the True Celebration . The SSPX PRESERVED IT And This is What IWill ONlY ACCEPT .😆😆😆👍👍
BRAVO! You are very intelligent and can appreciate the beauty of the Traditional Catholic Mass with excellent choral music.
@@Jame243 In the '40's we attended Holy Mass - there was no other! In '62, the church's were still full and scarves, Sunday best, missals, rosary beads, silence and reverence were the order of the day. Only males attended altars, with multiples of altar, acolyte and choir boys and men singing beautiful hymns. It took forever to work though the lines for confession. Then, we had vat2, which spelled the death of the true rubrics, rites and liturgies, ending up with only a shadow - of this false church!
You should read more. Tridentine mass is made to standardize the mass celebrated at western world. Before the Tridentine mass was being enforced, the structure was similar but how it was celebrated and expressed was slightly different in the western world according to different places. That's what we lost in the Tridentine mass. Look up ambrosian rite and other rite at the western church. Vatican 2 is supposed to restore the faith after the standardization of rite using the tridentine.
One more thing, novus ordo is called ordinary mass. And tridentine is called extraordinary mass in vatican 2.
Ordinary mass because it has all the basic foundation of the liturgy. You can trace back with an early christian. It is the truest form of how it was celebrated in the early times by following the formula written by church fathers.
Extraordinary mass (tridentine) is the mass celebrated in rome before vatican 2. It contains the culture's influence and tradition that's why it is called extraordinary because it shows our identity as roman catholic.
Fyi, Vatican 2 hasn't been fulfilled yet. All catholics should obey and try to not compare novus ordo with tridentine.
After novus ordo is accepted by roman catholic, then we can have extraordinary mass as our solemn mass one day in the future for big occasions. We need to preserve the sacredness of the extraordinary mass.
It is our mission to make tridentine mass become an extraordinary mass. Because it holds a lot of history.
Never says one rite is holier or more reverend than others. We have eastern catholics rite and other western rites which have been preserved well. All rites may look different but they hold the same foundation of all liturgy, same goes to novus ordo.
Funny to see that eastern catholics bishops & priests come to rome and had no issue celebrating the novus ordo with the roman bishops & priests. Unfortunately, there are some people from roman catholic had issues with it. I believe it is the job of all parishioners and parish priests to make a novus ordo mass to be more reverence. Do not blame novus ordo for the secular music or whatever. It is the parishioners and parish priests task to decide what to have and what to not have by following vatican 2, it can be gregorian chant, modern musics, sing or no singing, etc. Everything is done by the community and the parish priests..
But still, I am thankful to SSPX & FSSP and i believe they should remain as the one who preserve the extraordinary mass until all roman catholic accepts the ordinary mass (novus ordo) then one day tridentine can be said as what vatican 2 states what it is- extraordinary mass.
That's all. May God bless us all.
It doesn't matter if you go to tridentine mass by SSPX or I go to Novus Ordo mass, let it not separate us as brothers and sisters in Christ and affect our relationship with others. We need to unite as catholics.
Vatican 2 especially novus ordo is meant to fulfill the revelation where all the faithful including laymen become more participate in the liturgy.
The Church should grow, so that we won't repeat history. Plus, as long as it follows the tradition and doesn't contradict the deposit of faith left by the apostles, then it should be fine to have a girl altar server in novus ordo because it doesn't contradict the deposit of faith. but not in tridentine mass or other rites that has its own long tradition and already stated in the missal. I hope it's clear your misunderstanding.
Fyi, there is a certain condition that can allow girl altar servers for novus ordo, but i forgot. It should be meant for boys only. Usually it depends on the local bishop on how they set the condition.
The Eucharist minister does not contradict the deposit of faith, so it should be fine. But still, there are some conditions when eucharist ministers can be implemented based on the local bishop.
Things that has been taken away by tridentine mass:
- concelebration
- receive communion by hands (which was practiced by some eastern churches)
- receive the wine (got some exception, but i forgot)
This practices already existed and was preserved well by the eastern world. Remember that eastern and western bishops used to celebrate mass together at rome, but it was because of previous popes, bishops and some dark history that happened to make us forget how a mass should be celebrated without thinking eastern or western rite, only think as one catholic and apostolic church. 😮😮😮
So hope you are clear. There is nothing removed by the church. Not all things have changed since vatican 2. It is just some additions that need to be made and certain conditions are required to allow it.
@@alexandrochansonbruce4074 I'm sorry to say that you have been deceived the NOVUS ORDO is the Abomination of DESOLATION what happened at VATICAN 2 is the Fulfilment of the Third secret of FATIMA when ANTIPOPE JOHN XX111 knew the secret but decided not to reveal it instead Called an Evil Ecumenical COUNCIL that has seen all the ABOMINATIONS to this day and all the Pope's from VATICAN 2 are ANTIPOPES, the reality is that,‼️ that you must reject NEW MASS, as it is not a CATHOLIC mass and it was Formulated by PROSTESTANT Ministers and ANIBALI BUGNINI who was A FREEMASON together with POPE JOHN XX111 who also was a FREEMASON! to this day it can be seen what is the result! If you want to save your soul and that of others you must adhere to the decrees set down and passed on in TRADITION by the CHURCH FATHERS to be TRADITIONAL is to be a TRUE CATHOLIC. If you have for some reason any doubt about anything I have mentioned then look into the PAPAL BULL of POPE PIUS V, QUO PRIMUM and you will learn what a TRUE POPE Has said on the matter of being ROMAN CATHOLIC and what CATHOLICS should HOLD on to keep the deposit of FAITH,,!
Deo gratias!
Amen
Benedicamus Domino.Deo gratias.
Benedicamus dominum, Deo gratias.
Beautiful, gave me the chills at times. Why the High Mass, I wonder? Green vestments indicate Ordinary Time.
You can have a high Mass even in Ordinary Time.
I heard once that there were so many Low Masses being said (for reasons of making Mass shorter) that the Vatican had to mandate at least one Mass per weekend be a High Mass.
There wasno "Ordinary Time" in the old calendar! You had instead the Trinity Season in the summer, and from Epiphany, January 6th up until Lent was Epiphany Season. Vatican II brought in the idea of "Ordinary Time."
@@2300enduserperson1 it has to do with Christs own words “Can you not watch with Me one hour?” This is why most Masses aim to be around an hour. The High Mass is slightly longer because of the music, and the ones I attend average about one hour and fifteen minutes: not an inordinate amount of time to spend with Jesus on a Sunday.
@@2300enduserperson1 I think one hour. "Will you not watch one hour with Me"
Where this mass had been celebrated? The church is very beautiful, Missa Papae Marcelli gives a wonderful atmosphere to this service. I wish one day attend such majestic celebration :)
Somewhere in London
Since the Sanctus of Missa Papae Marcelli is very long, is it allowed to cut the singing of it in case that the elevation of the body and blood of Our Lord is already approaching? This is the first time I watch such things to happen. Thank you.
PS: That mass setting was very sublime and very uplifting. Gloria in excelsis Deo!
In the older custom, even when Gregorian chant is used for Sanctus, Sanctus is usually sung half ie Sanctus, Sanctus.....Pleni sunt caeli...Hosanna in Excelsis. Then the choir will remain quiet and kneel for the moment of Consecration. After the elevation of Chalice, then the choir will stand up to sing the other half of the Sanctus ie Benedictus qui venit in.....Hosanna in excelsis.
Some choirs retain this custom (singing 1st half, kneel at consecration and then sing the other half after the consecration) not necessarily bcause they use the polyphonic Sanctus, which is obviously lengthy, but because it is always has been the custom.
I’d like to add a quick warning to this comment: it may come off as rough or very forceful, even though that is not my intention.
This Mass is a masterwork of beauty. Can I witness this myself? No, not really. Do I care? Not at all. Why? Because this mass is beautiful in its own right, but Vatican II was important for the Church to modernize and expand. Additionally, Vatican II was not what changed the liturgy (that was a post-conciliar thing) but it was the most important council for deciding the future of the church too. All I ask is to please stop blaming the Mass on Vatican II, and if you don’t have a Vetus Ordo mass nearby, try the best to make the Novus Ordo as reverent as possible. Why?
1. Novus Ordo is valid.
2. The more you try to do to make the Novus Ordo reverent, the more sacrifice you are putting in personally to see to it. Sacrifice is worship.
3. The Vetus Ordo will not die. Even though Pope Francis has limited it, he refuses to ban it, for many reasons.
The month for christening was either June or July 1962.
Oh, the last time I tried to get a copy of my certificates, the priest couldn't find them, he said.
Señor jesus POR Por LA SANACIÓN integral restauración de toda la familia Pérez avalos DEL barrió Nazaret Asunción Paraguay
Wonderful-Where are the veils?
Which year and wich church was?
Thanks for the beautiful video!
Andrea Carminati I believe the church was a church in England. And the year was 1986
I have this on DVD from the Latin Mass Society of England and Wales. It was filmed at St Mary of the Angels, Bayswater, London W2. The Solemn High Mass was celebrated by Mgr John McDonald, with Fr Gordon Read as deacon, Fr Antony Conlon as subdeacon, Terry Worroll (director of music at St James's Church, Spanish Place, London) as organist and Claude Crozet directing the choir (who had come from the Church of Our Lady, St John's Wood, London). The Mass setting was Palestrina's 'Missa Papae Marcelli' and the Offertory motet was Victoria's 'O sacrum convivium'. The Low Mass was celebrated by Fr Michael Hollings.
vouchsafe Thanks for the information.
@@stevensonrf You're welcome.
@@vouchsafe9950 Thanks!
PAX DOMINI SET SEMPER VOBIS CUM!
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With organ music by the very Lutheran composer Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750): the Adagio from his "Toccata, Adagio and Fugue," BWV 564!
Bach wrote music for both the Catholic Church and the Lutheran Church but I don’t think he was a committed Lutheran?
@@stevensonrf Bach was a pious Lutheran, however once he was unsuccessfully applying for the job at the court of king August the Strong (he was a king of Poland at that time), who converted to Catholic religion. As a tribute to the monarch, Bach composed his mass in B minor, which was probably his only "Catholic" musical composition.
@@EduardWittek Proving the point that he wrote music for both the Lutheran service and the Catholic Mass. Thank you😀👍
He was Very Lutheran, and the church is very catholic, which means universal and encompasses everything
"A.M.D.G." ("Ad Maiorem Dei Gloriam")!
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As Carolyn Ann "Michele" Stingley
Dob 09/09/1949.
Esta es la ÚNICA Misa que agrada a Dios. No el Novus Ordo creado por 6 protestantes y 1 judío
Which day was celebrated
?
These Masses were of the Fifteenth Sunday after Pentecost.
Dominica XV post Pentecosten.
Good recording... Very nice to see. Was this the SSPX?
I think it was F.S.S.P.?
I was thinking the same thing but neither the FSSP or the SSPX are mentioned any where in the film. The Latin Mass Society is mentioned in the credits, so they may have gotten parish priests to offer the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.
If you look at the credits it was recorded in a parish church in London by the parish priest.
this Mass date 1962~ no sspx then
1962 is the date of the missal used for the Mass, but judging by the quality of the video this Mass was filmed many years later than that.
do you have an actual recording of a mass in 1962?
It doesn't really matter. The Missale Romanum used in these Masses in this video is the 1962 edition, which is the edition still used in all Traditional Latin (Tridentine) Masses to this day. The previous edition of the Missale Romanum prior to 1962 was the 1947 edition.
May I ask why did this change this 😊
Is a Mass of sspx?
No.
Instaurare omnia in Christo.
who is the author of the O Salutaris Hostia of the Solemn Benediction?
Emanuele M. Onifade Thomas Aquinas I think?
How unfortunate that this beautiful liturgy was taken from us throughout most of the world
Yes😕
Subtitles would be nice …. How many people do they think understand Latin? Not many.
You can buy a Latin/English missal.
Obviously the year is wrong; it's 1982, not 1962.
The year 1962 does not refer to the year in which the mass video was celebrated. 1962 refers specifically to the missal that is used in the celebration of the traditional Latin mass.
@@stevensonrf I wish you had said that in the description
per omnia saecula saecularum
sursum corda?
what happen to the dominus vobiscum?
I wondered this myself when I watched this many years ago and I guessed that the priest simply forgot it as he probably didn't celebrate the Tridentine Mass regularly. IMHO.
@@johnwoa He was/is an Anglican priest, that's why he forgot.
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nous sommes passés d' une vénération du christ dieu a la vénération du peuple de dieu...
Maravilhosa essa sim é uma verdadeira missa católica, e não o as coisas que fazem hoje nas igrejas culpa da teologia da libertação comunista.
novus ordo is a such a joke "community meal" ....catholics NEED the latin mass
The Novus Ordo could also be done reverently. However, the TLM is obviously superior.
are they still doing this in their church?
Not sure
@@stevensonrf where is this church?
@@instantinople3796 England
Why are the women not wearing veils?
I do believe it is optional?
What church is?
I think it says at the end of the video?
Lauda Sion Salvatorem, lauda ducem et pastorem in hymnis et canticis
You can find the true Mass at any chapel of the Society of St. Pius X
They offer the true Mass and refuse the heresies of Vatican II
Generation has passed
Has nothing to do with “generation” it’s all about authentic Church tradition.
@@stevensonrf I mean the time, the celebrant I know he’s already resting in the Lord, life is short
Why Brits have such problems with Latin"
Haha lol I take it you've never heard a french priest say Mass before
If you think the Brits can't pronounce the Mass well, then just wait till you go to France
why the women even in choir do not wear veils.They are not obedient to God, church and others. Shame!
SARTO Sarto This vid is right before the end of Vatican 2. A lot of modernism already started seeping in at the time this video was recorded
Well that's symbolical dont get mad on symbols chill
MCHDMAFFin Comedy it’s part of sacred tradition; not just symbolic.
@@m-hayek1985 well not tradition as the dignity of women is shown in other ways of modesty but I like when women veil
MCHDMAFFin Comedy actually the veil is a sign of modesty. It’s a ancient tradition stretching back to the early Christians and was mandatory prior to Vatican 2 under the 1918 code of cannon law. Furthermore, St Paul writes in the book of corinthians that women should veil in church. So it’s backed up by scripture, tradition and the old code of cannon law. Pax!
The Priest not have good tone, maybe he is an old man and it is very difficult because your age but the chorus is wonderful.
Please remember its Prayer, not a performance.
Wrong! Age has nothing to do with it! He is very reverent!
Quit pretending that the "TLM" rite of 1962 is Tridentine or pre-Vatican II. It was promulgated just in time for VII and that's where it was used, not elsewhere or before. The fruits are now well known. Have some integrity.
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Que linda postal del siglo XV