Safari Condo Alto F2114 Review: Loaded with features. Impossibly light.
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- Are you thinking of purchasing a Safari Condo Alto F2114? If you’re wondering whether this small but mighty camper is worth your hard-earned funds, we're here to share our experience adventuring in the F2114 over the last year.
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Great video. Tight, crisp editing. Exterior shots are scenic, interior shots are informative, lighting, presentation, all excellent. I watch a ton of RV videos, this is some of the best I've seen. Subscribed, keep up the good work, thanks.
WOW, thank you for the incredibly kind words! You just totally made our day ❤️
Thanks for watching (and subscribing) 🙏. We're so glad you enjoyed the video!!
Never buy a single axle camper. Have a flat on the camper in downtown Atlanta and it will become life threatening.
@@williamhumphries706 I understand your point, but wouldn't that mean a heavier trailer?
I want this camper so much! I love the light weight, open floor plan, and the king sized bed!
It really is a great RV and that king Mattress is wonderful. Thanks for watching!
Simply the most remarkable camper made in N.A. for anyone who wants to tow a truly lightweight camper. The wide windows and modern look inside distinguish it so much from the typical american-made dark and chocolate brown/beige interiors. We have the smaller version 1743 … and to answer your concerns about the bed, we have added a 2 inch foam mattress around which we set the contour sheet ( fits nicely). We then roll it up towards the back window when we undo the bed to provide more room on rainy days.
Great idea with the bed in your F1743. Speaking of which, we just released a video tour of the 1743 this morning! Would love to hear your thoughts on that video too! czcams.com/video/a8NJ8VXRIuQ/video.html
Thanks for watching!
Really good honest helpful comprehensive review. Its clear you've put a lot of thought and time into your work and your production values are top notch. I wish you both happy travels,nice weather and safe journeys.
WOW thank you so much for the kind words! Your comment really made our day. We appreciate you watching ❤️
Ya'll awsome. Love the honest review. Seriously thinking of purchasing this one.
We are glad you appreciate the transparency! Thank you so much for watching and for the feedback. Let us know if you have any questions about these trailers
Nice floor plan for its size, and lightweight! I like that the bed isn't the first thing you see when you enter.
Have the R1723 and thinking of upgrading so this was very helpful 🙏🏻
We are so glad to hear it! Thanks for watching and let us know if you have any questions.
I like the device on the tires to maneuver the trailer in tight spaces. I have seen other devices but for bigger RVs or boats. Those are not installed on the trailer.
This was cool.
We love them too! They are nice because they engage with the tires and allow you to go over rocky terrain and curbs. Thanks so much for watching!
Thanks for this great video. I'm a graphic designer thinking of selling everything and instead switch to RVing full time, which means being able to work on the road is the dealbreaker. I'm in Quebec City (funny, it's close to their main base) and my sister mentioned this manufacturer. I had heard of it but never gave it much thought. You sure had me reconsider it since you both work while travelling with it. So many great insights, thanks a lot for this.
Thank you for the kind words. We are so glad to hear you enjoyed the video! Working from the road is becoming easier than ever, especially with services like Starlink for internet. Aside from that, making sure you are comfortable is key! Good luck with your search and let us know if you have any questions.
Thanks for the great overview!
You are very welcome!
Another great video J&J, we look forward to meeting you guys out on the road soon. We ordered our R1713 a year ago and are expecting 11/24 delivery. I know the R1713 has storage trade-offs but we are all in and fully appreciate your insights. 🙏
We're so glad you've enjoyed our videos! Your new alto is JUST around the corner! 🙂
Excellent review - you have a new subscriber!
Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed it. No joke... I think you were our 2500th subscriber!!! 😁
Thanks for watching (and for taking us to 1K subscribers!). Regarding weight... if you're considering this trailer-especially if this is your first time towing-it weighs 2,368lbs (1,074kg) dry. That means with empty holding tanks (water/sewage) and doesn't account for whatever camping accessories you bring along. It's also worth mentioning, that figure is the base model without add-ons like some seen in this video (e.g. inverter, air conditioner, and microwave).
It's very important that you don't exceed your vehicle's Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR), the maximum total safe weight of your vehicle, counting the curb weight (the weight of our vehicle when empty), plus the weight of your passengers, fuel, any accessories added to the vehicle, cargo, and the “tongue weight” of a tow trailer. If in doubt, contact your vehicle's manufacturer or a Sarari Condo dealer with questions.
Hope you enjoyed the review and let us know if you have any questions.
Fun review, youse twose are cute! The caravan movers are the coolest! Seeing it in action, via the drone, demonstrates what a critical piece of equipment it is ☮️
@@GaiaCarney we were wondering if setting up that shot would be worth it! I feel fulfilled now!! 😅🤣
Thanks so much for the kind words and for watching!
Great info! Hits all the most curious aspects. Three months and counting. Boo-ya!
Glad it was helpful! That's awesome!
I love these two videos so much! Such thorough reviews of really interesting trailers. I hope I end up with either one day and will re-watch these to help decide!!
We're so glad you enjoyed our videos! Let us know if you have any other questions while researching trailers
Thanks for the awesome review! (People comment the strangest things, way to forge on 😄) STL native ✌🏼 Have fun out there!
I love this traveler. Old lady looking to travel.thanks guy
We love it too! Thanks for watching and doing forget to subscribe 😊
Great video. Very in depth with positives and negatives
We're glad you enjoyed it 😁. Thanks for watching!
What a great review! You blew my mind with the caravan mover. Who knew??
Glad you enjoyed our video! Yeah, we feel like we could make a whole video JUST about those caravan movers. They've allowed us to get into and out of some pretty tight spots. Such a cool feature to be able to turn in a dime with the push of a button. Thanks for watching.
@@JustinandJess 🙂
Great review. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Awesome overview, just what I've be looking for. My wife and I have this very same model with the same upgrades on order since November of 2021 scheduled delivery on August 2024.
Wow that is quite the wait! You two are going to be SO excited when your pickup day finally arrives 😊. Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching.
That looks like a Hymer Touring with 70% of the flaws worked out. I like the 'Made in Canada' and all the European components. Unfortunately it is unaffordable to most potential buyers. Which doesn't seem to matter looking at the waiting times. As long as there are enough wealthy people the manufacturers can ask whatever they want.
that was really interesting. i had seen a video on that teardrop that raises up, giving the panoramic? view. this is really a fine unit, well equipped, thank you for the tour.
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching ❤️🙏
Good stuff, well presented. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Been looking for something like this to pull with our Subaru Outback. Super helpful video!
We're glad you enjoyed the video! Regarding the Subaru outback, for others reading this that may not know, the standard tow capacity for a 2021 Subaru Outback is 2,700 lbs (which is not enough to tow the F2114), while models like the Outback XT increase the towing capacity to a maximum of 3,500 lbs when properly equipped.
@@JustinandJessis 3500 sufficient to tow this trailer?
@@lbeyyt6581- Yes. The older, 2019 Highlander hybrid Jess & Justin have has a 6 cylinder engine with a 3500 pound towing capacity.
Great review
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching:)
Wow! That has a lot of storage. I like the sliding doors on most of the storage areas.
It has way more storage than the two of us would ever need!
Just placed a deposit on a 2414 from California! Appreciate the review!
Awesome! Congratulations. How long is the wait?
Solid 2 years
@@MrNizzy209it's worth the wait!
What deposit is required (%)?
How much was your deposit?
I enjoyed your video!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching and subscribing to our channel ❤️
Very nice!
One of the most honest reviews of a trailer I've watched. Thanks for all the details about everyday use.
That is exactly what we're hoping to achieve! Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching!
Thx for he 1 year review and great job by the way. Did you guys actually live it in for the whole year including the winter months? Did you you basically stay in Washington? I'm from Vancouver so would love to know where you guys go. Have a deposit on a f2114 already. Thanks again for the review and you guys do an amazing job. My condolences for IRA. Being a huge dog lover I know how hard it is to lose what I believe is a family member and not just a pet.
We're so glad you enjoyed the video and congrats on the upcoming Alto! Great question about full-timing. Up through now, we lived and worked in it intermittently and a lot less during the winter because it's not a four season trailer and we've been in Seattle (and the plumbing had to be winterized). However, we recently quit our corporate jobs and are now full-time bloggers. Over the course of the next couple months we're transitioning to living in a trailer full-time and will be living in it in warmer locations during the winter season in North America. Thank you for the condolences ❤️.
Have you guys had the chance to take out your new trailer? Eager to see what you got and how you like it.
@@superduck102 not yet, but we should be picking it up next week! We're equally excited to show it off 😁
Great work and video. Two quick questions... what year is your Highlander Hybrid, and can you provide any advice/expxerience or references on converting the standard 4 pin trailer connect plug to the 7 wire plug Altos requires? Thanks and keep it up.. inspirational.. you're adding value to the world!
Wow, your comments are so kind! You made or day. We drive a 2019 HiHy. If you're going with a wireless brake controller, getting the 4 pin converted to 7-pin is trivial and can be done for about $200 (including parts/labor) at most U-Haul dealerships. If you're getting a wired brake controller, that's takes a little more time/money, but I believe U-Haul can still do that too. Just give them a call and tell them your situation (they've seen it all). They warranty their work too, so it's really a no-brainer!
Thanks for watching and see you around!
What is the clearance height (i.e., outdoor ground to top height)?
How do you secure the rv when you drive untowed for short trips?
Loved the video on the f2114. Would’ve liked to see the aft queen set up.
Glad you enjoyed the video. Yeah, I'm kicking myself that we didn't show that off. We are publishing our video tour of the new Alto expedition tomorrow and we definitely made sure to set up the aft bed!
Nice job, guys. Always appreciate your thorough, fun reviews. Dumb question: is there no way to power the AC except through shore power? Love the freedom of boon docking, but I simply can’t sleep when it’s hot
Glad you enjoyed the video! The most common way to power an air conditioner off-grid is by using a gas generator. The Honda EU2200i is a very popular choice in the RV community because it's extremely quiet and reliable. There's even a $300 conversion kit that allows you to run it off of propane so you don't have to use gasoline.
Of course, you could theoretically get a solar generator like we have and a TON of solar panels, but that would get very expensive, require excellent solar performance, and require that you never park in the shade.
We talk a bit about these concepts in this video here... czcams.com/video/H4dU18jTA_g/video.html
Yep, saw your video when it came out, which helped improve my understanding of off-grid, solar, battery, electric concepts & lingo. You folks and Riley & Courtney at @ambitionstrikes are two of my favorite channels. Still learning, but really inspired by how you both accept and make off-grid work as a way of life. We’re all going to have to do so, hopefully sooner than later. 😎
Wow, what a compliment! You just made our day. Thanks so much for your interest in the content we create. How we see you on the road some day.
Wow perfect!!
Have been looking forward to your full review and really enjoyed it. We had the opportunity to tour your trailer at Get Away prior to your pickup last May. We fell in love with the Alto's and placed our order, but went with the larger 2414. There is just the two of us, but the dry bath and duel axel appealed to us. Plus we are downgrading from a 28' larger trailer and wasn't sure I could go much smaller, even as a weekend warrior. We are now just a few months away and fingers crossed for they make our September 2023 delivery date.
Congrats on the upcoming 2414! Please reach out and give us an update after you pick yours up. We're excited to check out that model; we'll be at safari Condo's 25th anniversary get together in a couple weeks and that will be the first time seeing one 🤞.
Thanks for watching. Glad you enjoyed our review 😁
Thanks for the review. I'm still looking at the teardrop, but this has so many features, it's worth considering.
Nice video! Thanks! With all of your options, cargo, and water, what is your full weight?
Thanks for watching! That's been asked a few times in the comments here (short answer is I don't have the exact figure). I think I'll need to stop at a weigh station next time we pass one and update the description with that note. That'll be good to include in future trailer reviews too!
Family of 4 here, love your content! Could you make a review on a great camper for a family of 4? Thanks!
Thanks so much! Glad you like our videos. You might consider looking into Safari Condo's F2414 that has a rear retractable bad option which drops from the roof. We haven't camped in one, but we've had an opportunity to check one out in person and it's pretty impressive. 😊
Hey, love this trailer tour! Do you mind if we share it on a blog post about EV Camping + Travel?
Please do! And thanks for watching.
What's your blog?
Thank you for sharing your insights and experience with the F2114. We are considering getting that model, or possibly an F2414. As regards the Awning, did you use it much? Does it extend out far enough to be really functional for rain protection and shade? It seems a bit short, but it may just be the angles, etc. And yes, I certainly understand that it needs to be retracted if it is going to get windy. Thank you.
We used it ALL THE TIME. I love that the F2114 has mounts for the awning legs built right the the frame of the trailer so you don't even need to stake them to the ground. It's so fast and easy to set up. Also, the Fiamma awning provides a lot of coverage from sun and rain, extending to at least 8' from the trailer. We love the light bar too! It's a no-brainier add-on for us :)
Here's the product link... www.fiammausa.com/en/f45s-en.html
Not sure what happened to a Reply a posted a few minutes ago, so I'll redo it. We've been reluctant to get the LED Light Bar because most of the time when we're sitting outside we use our three vintage Coleman lanterns. We LOVE the light they cast and that gentle hissing sound too! But, I can see where the LED Light Bar could be beneficial for those times when we want light out there but aren't using the Coleman lanterns. Does the Awning have to be deployed to use the LED lights, or are they fully functional when the Awning is rolled up and not deployed?@@JustinandJess
what is so clever how the bed converts?
The best thing you should add to your setup is a DC-DC charger. This is NOT part of the 8-way trailer connector but a separate unit that will allow you to run your fridge on DC power while driving while charging your battery at the same time. You can purchase a unit that will supply more than enough current and not damage the alternator in your tow vehicle.
That's a good tip. Thank you for the suggestion!
Great content. I've got a highlander also. Do you guys have it wired for brakes? If so. .how did you get it done? I've towed a small pop up that doesn't need electric brakes. Does something like this need a car wired for brakes? Thanks
Yes, you will need either a wired brake controller installed in the Highlander for a wireless brake controller installed on the trailer. If you go with the if you go with the latter option (my preference) you will need to have a seven pin flat outlet installed on the back of your Highlander. Safari condo or one of their dealers can tell you exactly what you'll need to have done. Most U-Haul locations will do that wiring for you. If I remember correctly it cost less than $200 including labor and materials. Hope that helps!
You guys are awesome. Thanks for this excellent, honest review. So would a baseline 5th gen 2011 Toyota 4Runner be sufficient for towing this?
Thank you for the kind words, Joe! We're glad you found the video to be helpful. With a 5,000 lb towing capacity, your 4Runner will have zero issues towing the F2114. Let us know if you have any other questions.
Also, be sure to check back here on Saturday morning. We're releasing a video tour of the shorter, Alto F1743. It's basically the same trailer, but a few areas are a little bit shorter on the inside.
Update: Here's our F1743 tour... czcams.com/video/8mHhzlb-YWQ/video.html
@@JustinandJessthank you! Safe travels out there!!!
Thank you!
You are very welcome! Thanks for watching 🙂
There are a few Nucamp features used in the TAB series
Amazing video! Is there an outside kitchen or an area to plug into the propane to create one?
Not that I know of. I think you would have to install a splitter on one of the propane regulators
Looks like you are heading to Twin Lakes near Bridgeport CA - Love that area! From Minden NV
Good eye! We fell in line be with Bridgeport and can't wait to go back. Incredible dispersed camping and hot springs
If one was not “living” in it but instead taking 5-8 week trips would you prefer the 17 series popup? And did you get better towing MPG when towing the R1723? We use an ALiner now and are thinking about upgrading to the R1713. Thanks
I think the same limitations apply whether you're living in the R1723 full time or 5 to 8 weeks. Even with month-long trips, you're going to need more than a weekend warrior would... Pretty much everything you need to live from laundry detergent for laundromats to a larger wardrobe.
We've definitely been able to make it work living in the 1723 for months at a time, but the huge difference is that we had to keep a lot of our things in plastic totes in the back of our SUV, like dry foods, paper towels, tool boxes, etc. At times, it could be a pain in the butt to have to go outside in the middle of cooking dinner to grab a potato out of the back of the car. Also, we chose to make the full king size bed (with the center cushions spanning the gap between the couch area) as opposed to sleeping on two twin beds, and this really limited your usable storage because it became an accessible during the night and pretty much required us to unmake the bed everyday.
All that said, we both think that the R1723 is the coolest looking trailer in the Alto lineup, and Jess just said TODAY that we wish Safari condo could put some kind of overhead cabinet storage in that trailer.
Long story short... If you don't mind fetching stuff out of your tow vehicle, it's totally doable.
And yes, we got better gas mileage towing the 1723, however it was within older Highlander hybrid which didn't get as good of gas mileage as our new Highlander hybrid does. This is a total guess, but I'd say our MPG was about 2 to 3 better while towing due to the decreased weight and increased aerodynamics
As far as power on options we use a portable gas generator which is Great for microwave stove stuff and we bring a long extension cord and keep the noise of our generator far away from us
How is this trailer as a 3 season unit. I know you’ve stated that it it’s a bit thin on insulation for extreme temperatures. Are the windows a thermal or dual pane window? We have what’s considered as a 3 season trailer but it just has basic windows which do not do well in shoulder seasons. Thanks for your review!
The windows are single pane, but these trailers have no issue staying warm at all! The are extremely efficient while using the Truma-combi propane heater and can last for weeks in cold temperatures with two tanks. We've camped in temperatures as low as 8F... just set the thermostat like you do at home and you'll stay toasty warm through the night. The heat is more of an issue in the summer when the trailer stays too warm. Owners in hotter climates have reported that the AC really struggles when the outdoor temps are above 90.
Hope that helps. Thanks for watching!
Thanks
You're welcome
pretty clever table, pretty much ever rv in the world does that
We also have a Toyota Hylander Hybrid. What MPG did you get while towing?
Is the F2114 available w AC?
Thanks,
Larry
We got about 14 to 16 mi per gallon depending on the wind. Yes, the f2114 as an available air conditioner
The video was very helpful and insightful. Wish I would have come across it sooner. We will be taking ownership of an F-2114 in a few months and it has about the same features and will contain about the same amount of gear as the unit in the video. If it is assumed that all the tanks are near or at full capacity, then the total weight of the camper will be close to 3500 lbs, which is the towing capacity of the Toyota Highlander Hybrid tow vehicle you used. We would also like to use this Highlander model as our tow vehicle but are concerned about being so close to its towing capacity. How did the Highlander perform for you? I assume you went up some steep grades including your fair share of mountain passes?
Thanks for watching! We are so glad you found the video helpful.
You will definitely not be able to tow with hey Highlander hybrid if the holding tanks are full. I mean, technically you can, but it's really going to struggle, especially on steep mountainous terrain.
Also remember that the 3500 lb towing capacity includes the weight of any accessories and cargo you are towing. We are minimalist travelers so we are able to get away with having a 3,500 lb TV, but that is definitely not the case with most RVers. Things like floor mats, dog crates, grills, camping chairs, etc can add up pretty quickly.
Being able to tow with a Highlander hybrid is a huge advantage if you're like us and keep your trailer parked to the campground for days at a time so you can enjoy 30 miles per gallon while driving around the city. But, the trade-off is you will have to be much more diligent about dumping holding tanks for you leave campgrounds, and you have to spend a lot more time getting freshwater only as needed and potentially bringing it back to your trailer using a Jerry can.
Even being very diligent with weight management, you will still have to drive much slower on the highways and get used to driving way way slower with the semi trucks in the far-right lane when going up steep mountain passes.
I hope this perspective helps a little bit. Congrats on your new Alto and let us know if you have any other questions.
For the bed check out the use of a duvet; we love how easy and fast it is to make and break down the bed. It’s highly customizable for warm weather or using blankets for cold weather. Check out the “A Life More Light” episode where they talk about how they set up the duvet. We have the R1713.
Thanks for the recommendation! We'll have to check that out.
caravan mover looks so necessary!
They really are the best. They have gotten us out of some very hairy situations. Thanks for watching ❤️❤️
Wich suv you use to tow
Love that Caravan Option !!!!!.. Your asking too much of that Subaru, weight wise. Be safe out there.
Have you looked at an Oliver Legacy??? 👍
She's perfect! And so is the trailer !
Have you weighed the trailer on a Cat scale as yet, I would be interested to know how you keepinder the GWR, especially with freash water on board. 😊
No I never got the chance to weigh the 2114 on a scale when we had it. Our new Alto trailer (the F1743 Expedition) weighs a little more though because if it's extra off-road features and we have weighed it at 3,300 lbs at it's max weight with full holding tanks. We almost never travel with full tanks, but we wanted to see just how heavy it could get.
Here's the video tour of that trailer. czcams.com/video/JJwHXtzOv_E/video.html
Thanks for watching! Let us know if you have any other questions.
Great video? Do you know what the max towing is for your Vehicle? Or I can look it up. What are you towing it with? I don't recognize the silver suv. I am 6'1 and so is my wife. Been looking for something to tow behind our new Bronco. the shower height makes me nervous. I am also curious when using the outdoor shower what do you stand on? I would think mud would splash up on your legs. Sorry about Lexie. Dogs are the best
We tow with a 2019 Highlander hybrid. It's towing capacity is 3,500 lbs.
At 6'1" the trailer should be tall enough for you. You may need to crouch just a little bit when showering though, but if you are anything like us, you'll be taking short navy showers so I don't know if that would disqualify this trailer for you.
I keep a thick foam pad in the back of the car that I can kneel on for vehicle maintenance low of the ground (e.g. changing a tire). We started using that to stand on while showering since it has a pretty small footprint and is about 2 in thick. We just keep it outside after showering and it dries overnight.
I think it was around $5 at harbor freight www.harborfreight.com/foam-kneeling-pad-56572.html
I keep the water pressure pretty low to conserve water so most of it just trickles down slowly and there's no risk of mud splashing.
So glad you enjoyed the video! Thank you for watching 🙏😊
@@JustinandJess Thanks so much for the detailed reply! The Broncos towing capacity is also 3,500 lbs, We are new to this. Trying to watch a lot of videos and learn before we jump in.
Awesome review! Imm'a microwave some milk rn.
Good choice! I was wondering if anyone was going to catch that 🤣
What do you think of Coleman trailers? They are very light and cheaper than regular trailers.
To be honest, I don't know much about them, but generally speaking I would steer clear of anything that uses wood in the construction. Managing moisture and humidity in a trailer is hard enough as it is. I'd hate to have to worry about wood rot as well. I guess if you plan on exclusively traveling in dry and arid climates, this wouldn't be as big of a consideration.
I was waiting to hear if you were able to use AC while off grid
Fortunately, up through now we've been able to get away with not using air conditioning off-grid because we lived in the Pacific Northwest and it really doesn't get that hot there. However, we just started full timing in our new Alto Expedition (czcams.com/video/MGCE6UGDHkI/video.html) and we're starting to travel all over the country, including places that definitely require air conditioning.
We used to travel in the F2114 with an EcoFlow Delta pro, a 3.6 kilowatt hour solar generator with 3,000 w output and 6000 w surge. It was definitely powerful enough to run the trailer's air conditioner, but only for two or three hours (the air conditioner used about 1400 Watts continuous).
We no longer travel with the Delta pro now that our new Alto has 400 amp hours of LiFePO4 battery built in. However we did just pick up the Honda EU3200i gas generator. We are collecting data to make a future review for that generator, so stay tuned.
Here's a video we made about the power setup we used to have in the R1723 and F2114: czcams.com/video/H4dU18jTA_g/video.html
Good video
Thanks for watching!
I would love a Safari Condo, but besides the issue of apparently having to drive to Canada to get one (from Georgia, US), is the one I want would be ready in 2026. I would think they would expand production.
Yes, the waitlist is tough! I know quality manufacturing is super important to them and they want to make sure that's not compromised when production is a scaled up. Trained and skilled labor doesn't happen overnight.
I think that's one of the reasons why people are willing to wait so long and travel so far... Safari Condo stands behind their trailers. At least, that was a big selling point for us when we bought our first trailer from them.
Thanks so much for watching!
What's clever about the table converting. Almost all do it exactly the same way.
17:24 u guys camped at the county dump I see a perfectly good water heater down there
what's the Hitch Weight ?
You dont need a shelf on bed just get some nice tv serving trays you can set them on the bed while you eat and have your drinks etc there
What do you mean when you say you’re “borrowing “ the trailer? Is it on a lease?
There's no lease. It's owned by the manufacturer and they've allowed us to tow around for a limited time.
You said the insulation was better but this doesn’t sound like a good four season option, right? Or am I misinterpreting?
You've got it right! All of the alto trailers are 3 season. They have plumbing that's exposed under the trailer that's not insulated or heated and is vulnerable to freezing. We try to stay above freezing all year (we're in Southern Florida right now), but we have to do emergency winterizing of the plumbing systems once or twice each year if we can't outrun the cold.
2 yr waiting list.
Without a slide out, it is stuck in the 60's, check out a Lance 1995 it feels like you could put that trailer inside
Wow!
Our thoughts exactly! :)
I imagine the 2400 lb was base model dry weight, so what is the dry weight of your model with all those options? And the hitch weight for that matter?
That's exactly right! I'm not sure about the weight of the optional add-ons, but check out the pinned comment on this video for a few more details about weight.
A simple fix for nuts, bolts, and screws that work themselves loose is to put a drop of liquid paper or blue lock tight on the threads. This prevents them from loosing, but allows you to loosen them when needed. DO NOT use red lock tight. It’s a nice trailer, but I think a little bit to small for me.
That's a good idea, thanks for sharing. Thanks for watching
Can I pull it with a 2023 pathfinder Nissan
It appears the 2023 Pathfinder has a towing capacity of 3,500 to 6,000 lbs depending on which package you have. You can technically get away with 3,500 lb, but only if you're a very minimalist traveler and are very diligent about dumping your holding tanks before traveling.
Read our pinned comment to learn a little bit more about the weight of this RV and considerations for your tow vehicle.
Thanks for watching!
Can someone who is 6'4" sleep comfortably in this with room head to foot?
Yes, but your feet will likely hang off of the bed by a couple inches. If you don't mind sleeping perpendicular to the length of the trailer, there's actually a little more room from wall to wall (6.75 ft). The obvious drawback to that is, if you sleep with a partner, one of you will have to climb over the other one if they get up in the middle of the night.
It's also worth noting, this trailer will barely accommodate you at 6'4". Without wearing any shoes, Sandals, or flip-flops, your head will come within a fraction of an inch of the ceiling. Also, the bathroom is a little bit shorter than the rest of the trailer (6'1") because of the raised shower pan.
A better/more efficient refrigerator is a must. I hate the bench seating and table they always put in an RV and would rather it not be there at all. The RV is really designed for 1 person or a couple. The extra bed should never be used. I think you should be eating outside, so a folding table and folding chairs under that awning would be used instead. Now I think the awning should have LED lighting and the ability to screen it in. I would also rather there was not a sink in the bathroom as you have one about 3 feet away.
Hey Todd. Totally agree with you on the refrigerator. A true compressor refrigerator is essential and anyone who wants to go boondocking should definitely consider a fridge that runs on propane.
Jessica uses the bench seating all the time, but it's too uncomfortable for me (Justin here).
Personally, I love the extra bed option if you ever have a friend that wants to come camp with you. I've even used it on nights where I was sick and restless and didn't want to keep waking Jessica up with all of my tossing and turning, so I'm very glad that we have the option to use it. I also love the option that the dinette table top can quickly be attached to the exterior wall of the trailer for dining and we can place our camping chairs on either side. Since it hugs the trailer, it's perfect for rainy days because you can put the awning out.
Speaking of which, the awning does have an LED lighting strip (sorry if we forgot to mention it in the video).
These sink in the bathroom is an optional add-on, by default, the trailer does not have it.
@@JustinandJess See I personally would put a longer countertop with maybe storage to one side instead of the benches and table and put a real computer chair to I could have a computer desk. I would also put in a solar system and batteries and switch to all electric appliances instead of propane.
I would also have a water pump and a 100 foot hose so I could draw in water from a lake or stream and have a water filter and UV filter on it. Then have a 100 foot drain line for gray water that I could use to dump away from the trailer. Many states allow gray water dumping. Just look for a dish detergent and soap that is environmentally friendly. They also make a small washing machine and spin dryer for cleaning clothing. Basically I want something that I could wilderness camp and still have enough amenities to go for months if needed. I would get a StarLink system too.
Of course this is a dream camper idea and I can not afford it right now and my health is not the best, but recovering slowly. Hopefully if I can get some more weight off my A-Fib will get better or I will get a pace maker and have some energy again.
Are there dealers here in the US who carry these?
I'm not sure if they sell them new, but you can try calling Durango RV Rental, located in Durango CO.
durangorvrentals.com
How much is this model?
$45K USD roughly starting price.
so if you "borrowed" the trailer...where did the comment about a big chunk of savings come from??
Sorry, which comment? Do you have a timestamp? I searched the script for "savings" and couldn't find anything. Thanks.
Question…am I reading the prices correctly? $50k American?
The conversion rate changes all the time, but the current price for the base model F2114 is 58 059 $ CAD (2026 model-year) which translates to $42,390.33 (USD) as of today.
Price??
Starting from 58,059 $ (CAD) for the 2026 model-year. (There's currently a 2+ year waiting list)
@@JustinandJess😮
Cost ?
I just checked Safari Condo's website and, as of the time I'm leaving this comment, the starting price is ~$46,500 USD.
The drop down table has been around for more than 50 years
How much
Current pricing for the 2026 model year can be found here on the manufacturer's website. I'm giving you the link instead of including a price because it's in Canadian dollars and the exchange rate changes frequently.
Run DC from your vehicle when on the road.
Technically we do this. We connect our trailer to our tow vehicle with the seven pin connector that has a 12 volt auxiliary line. It doesn't provide a lot of power, but enough to power the trailers electric brakes and trickle charge the battery.
There's no AC??
There is! We just forgot to mention it in the review. It's floor mounted below the dinette. You can see the black air intake/exhaust grill to the right of the front door.
@@JustinandJess thanks. !
No Price mentioned
I knew you guys had a hybrid
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so what you're saying is... I would have to be on my knees to fully utilize the shower because I'm 6'2" 😅
Just don't forget to pack your waterproof knee pads!
Even though you have that trailer, PLEASE REMEMBER in some States like Montana, it's the law that you HAVE TO HAVE IN EACH VEHICLE & RV (trailer, motor home, etc.) a BUCKET, SHOVEL, & AX. The reason is to have them handy in case of fire.
People use mirrors to put contacts in?? 👀
Crazy world, right?
@@JustinandJess lol yeah. Been wearing contacts most of my life and have never used a mirror 😂
Love the vid 😉 👍
Hope u dont have to use the ac much. Its in a terrible location. The front will be freezing and the back warm. It also leaked onto the floor water instead of out the condensation ports to the outside. Im sure they would of fixed it under warranty. We were just trying it out.
The ac front floor unit was the only thing i didnt like about the rv and why we didnt buy that one.
Fortunately, we didn't need to use the AC that often, however we found with our new Alto Expedition (czcams.com/video/MGCE6UGDHkI/video.html) that the curved roof does a great job at directing the cold air along the roof towards the back.
Generally though, I agree with you regarding the placement and I really wish the f2114 and f1743 trailers could have a roof mounted AC like Safari Condo's larger f2414 model.
Thanks for watching and providing feedback!