Four Successful North Korean Megaprojects
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- čas přidán 25. 05. 2024
- Discover North Korea's surprising megaprojects! From space programs to ICBMs, nuclear weapons to ballistic missile submarines, delve into the astonishing achievements of this unexpected contender. Watch now!
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The irony of "Four Successful North Korean Megaprojects" being the title of a Sideprojects video is fuking hilarious.
I said the same! Tossing some shade toward Kim.
"Side Projects" refers to the many projects of Simon. Sheesh!
They may be Megaprojects, buuttt... it IS still North Korea. Hahaha
I didn't realize that was the case until you pointed it out! 🤣All of them together didn't amount to a single Megaproject!? 🤣
Brainwashed by Western regime propaganda 🤭🤭
Brings a whole new meaning to the phrase “if at first you don’t succeed,try and try again and again and again etc,etc”
That's pretty much the history of space travel worldwide.
You can learn from your mistakes in order to succeed
Persuasation is key !
Considering that the country was completely destroyed in the 50s and has been blocked and embargoed for its entire existence, just make this achievements more impressive.
The North Korean economy did quite well during the Cold War for a simple reason - blackmail. After the Sino/Soviet split, North Korea refused to take a side, which prompted both countries to pour in aid to try and court them. (A bit like a bratty kid playing his divorced parents off against one another.) When the Soviet Union fell, North Korea's economy was toast
Yeah, people don't realise that North Korea had a much better economy than the south until the early 80s@@laurencewinch-furness9450
Hi kim! 🤓
@@laurencewinch-furness9450NK: please send subsidies
Post Soviet Russia: belt tightening necessary
NK: please send belts
Nah, they should have way more.
You have millions of people who's lives you dictate under your control, and you can't do more?
They still had the Soviet Union looking out for them economically, and then direct trade with China.
Now they have access information to the internet, and all that free knowledge.
If I was a dictator? I think I could do more.
Yet I guess it isn't easy staying a dictator. Gotta keep the people stupid and poor. Not even using somewhat modern agriculture to feed the populace alone is just... Stupid.
0:55 - Chapter 1 - Space program
5:55 - Chapter 2 - ICBMS
9:10 - Chapter 3 - Nuclear weapons
14:25 - Chapter 4 - Ballistic missile submarines
Why doesn't it surprise me that all the successful megas were military oriented?
Right?
We've got rockets for space, rockets for the land, rockets with bombs and sea rockets.
Meanwhile, The US was aiming for Mars 😆 That's how advance the Americans are.
bro maxxed out all points on rockets
👋
How did you write down all these timelines?
Missed opportunity to talk about North Korea's hackers. North Korea is a small, poor country and yet they are believed to have some of the best state sponsored cybersecurity specialists on the planet. This is with a populace that by and large does not have access to computers. It'd be like if Michael Phelps was Nepalese.
All of the ones mentioned here are just a part of nuclear weapons development. The difference between spacecraft and ICBM is where it lands.
People like to make jokes, but it's easy for them to forget that they are still the same people as South Koreans, just under a very different and oppressive political regime. The people are just as willful, resourceful, smart, and hardworking. For this reason, if the North Korean government problem were to be resolved in whatever way it might in the future, foreign investment into the country would probably be massive.
@@saulghim2661 Not to be rude, but that is incredibly naive. North Korea becoming the recipient of global recognition and investment is about as likely as Papua New Guinea becoming a superpower. They made a few rockets, that's it. That is literally it. In every other sector, the North Koreans are decades behind.
@@Big_Caesar1 They are decades behind because of crushing sanctions that are financially choking the country, and limits their access to any technology and materials. This isn't due to a lack of capability. As I already mentioned before, if the NK regime problem were to be solved by internal collapse, invasion, or whatever else, you'd see that the country (unified immediately or not) would flourish very quickly, after a generation or two. A tiny country of 25 million people doing what they've done under the constraints they've been subject to is indeed a testament to that fact.
@@saulghim2661 If their government "crisis" was solved it would not be North Korea any longer. South Korea still wants reunification, the only factor preventing that is the Juche government in charge in North Korea, if that falls, then efforts will be underway to incorporate the territory into South Korea, finally forming one Korea. In that scenario, of course Korea would receive investment, South Korea is already profoundly successful. There is no path for the current NK regime to achieve any sort of international recognition or investment. Military technology is where the North spends all of its money, its really not impressive when you are starving your populace and stagnating in every single other area like Science, Engineering, Human development, just so you can posture to much more successful countries with rockets and nuclear weapons. North Korea is a pariah state, and they survive on international aid (even the USA has bailed out North Korea many times with food aid, financial aid despite these "crushing sanctions")
@@Big_Caesar1 yeah but that’s why people would expand into it. It’s one of the only places capitalism isn’t allowed left. Like what new markets are there even. Everywhere else has already established in market. This would be the only new market we are going to get for a while
"Russia flat out refused to sell North Korea a SCUD." Even Russia thought they were nutty.. That says a lot!
Actually the SU and Russians have always been cautious. Even when selling their allies weapons, they were severely downgraded export versions which were a good decade or two behind their own latest. This is unlike the US, which would sell its allies near latest (obviously not THE latest) tech, especially to Britain and Israel. So calling out the SU or Russia as some mad country just proliferating weapons tech is just plain wrong. That title would actually go to a country like China (sold nuclear weapons designs and materials and parts to Pakistan) and Pakistan (which sold rocket tech they got from China to NK).
*Soviets .
Well that and east Asia likes to steal plans after promising to pay licensing
@@seansteel3326 id like to buy 3, who do i contact? /s
Our perception of North korea is left over from the Korean war unfortunately we pecieve north korea via the lense of Korean war properganda
North Korea always has ironically been a fascinating country in terms of achievements wether it be space programs military programs or just how it hasn’t collapsed yet with their politics
There are few as tenacious and they have proven the ability to endure pretty much anything. Special place for sure.
Yeah, that famine was insane.
@@memofromessexthe famine never ended
@@memofromessex - The US threatened to sanction any country that sent aid to NK.
It's proof that Warhammer 40k could be real life
A project worth mentioning is the Nampo Dam. It's an impressive feat of engineering and shows what they can do when they don't spend everything on the military.
I like these more unusual topics, well done Simon.
I like the point of view, wish more journalists would have this. Neutral, objective, that kind of stuff.
"North Koreas non existing economy" speaks volumes about the ignorance toward this country, North Korea does in fact have a substantial heavy industry for a country of its size
That's about it, though.
In my humble opinion, a heavy industry alone isn't a whole economy if the state itself is the only real customer. That just means it's an industrialized regime. When all you do is for the government and its goals, that's not a full grown economy but I do agree, NK is seriously underestimated on the world stage in its capabilities
@@YeeSoest I moved to Bulgaria 15 years ago. I was genuinely shocked to find out that literally everything I thought I knew about communism was 1) wrong 2) propaganda and 3 worst of all LAZY propaganda, that really annoyed me.
cos its not just that it was better than we were told [it was] its that the stuff the people actually disliked we never got told about. And the stuff we did get tols about was mostly entirely made up.
@@piccalillipit9211 i have extensive family ties to the former DDR or East Germany and I had more than one ultra leftist teacher for most of my teenage years so I know communism wasn't what most of us westerners were told and people inside of it had an entirely different experience. That doesn't change the fact that most people - even today where societal changes fuel their confidence in it further - would not choose to go back to a plan economy etc and there's good reasons for that. Not the reasons they told us in school but still.
I'm just so jealous to not have experienced the direct comparison between the "have it all" west and the "all we need" east and honestly I couldn't tell you where I'd end up...
To be clear: If the West was at its core true to and honest about its ideals, goals and values? Easy. Since most of it is not...
@@YeeSoest - Well the big thing we didn't get taught in the wes t was how varied it was. Here in Bulgaria, they seem to have had a very good time, most people miss it and would like to go back [yes i know nostalgia will play a part]. Next door in Romania it was horrible. My friend there - her treat at Christmas was a pigs ear to chew on...!!!
As I say the bit that annoys me the most is how lazy the propaganda was.
@@piccalillipit9211 true, our parents heard about the pig ears and said "that's what we're telling our kid's"
Wasn't even a lie but was used like one!
Things are never black and white or red and blue for that matter
Thank you for bring this tough information to those of us who do not see comparable news stories in the major press releases. Not pleasant to learn but necessary to stay somewhat informed about is going on in the big world that most of us never see.
Thank you for citing the sources in this video. Some of these websites have some absolutely fascinating stuff to read. 😁
Now if only they could feed their people?? Definitely a mega project worth taking on
Please do not use AI images.
Why?
They are really terrible
@@ryanchappell1745they’re unoriginal and suck. Fuckin’ computers, too. They be takin’ errbody’s jobs! Also, back in my day, people used computers for different things. I remember I was on the set of A Night at the Opera, and they had a team of a dozen very burly gentlemen bring in something they called a computer machine. Harpo remarked that these machines were going to end up being a failure. Later, many years on, Gummo pointed this out and laughed at Harpo’s expense because the computer machine ended up becoming more and more influential in our daily lives.
Welcome to 2024, man up and carry on
Please don't comment on videos 😂
I am definitely not and AI bot.
But for real, chill.
I kept hearing the name of their ICBM as "croissant" and refuse to change that
What is really scary is that photo of a little nuclear reactor facility. It looks so ramshackle, yet that’s all it takes.
This reminds me of an anecdote that a sergeant in the GDR army told me in the 1980s. At the time, the NVA was considered one of the best armies in the Warsaw Pact.
"My captain said that one of the tankers must have a broken valve. I went there with a heavy hammer and found a broken valve. We were then able to refuel our vehicles with the leaking fuel."
How many tanks and troop carriers has North Korea decommissioned for a single submarine?
You're right! It WOULD be legitimately difficult for ANY nation to develop this tech from scratch!
Which is why I expect the Chinese and/ or Russians provided help to the N. Koreans in this endeavour (ICBMs + MIRVs). After all, China has always shown a vested interest in supporting N. Korea, going so far as to directly go to war against the USA in the 50s, in defence of Korea (ostensibly to prevent the USA from having control of the Korean peninsula, so close to the Chinese mainland).
China only sees NK as a buffer against a possible land invasion. They would prefer if NK did what China did and improve their economy and stop destabilizing the world. But China has to make do with what they have as a neighbour.
I feel like I'm watching a special Olympics award ceremony 😂
Shouldn't this be on the Megaprojects projects channel?
Still just Sideprojects for the rest of the world
Should be a shit heap channel
@@topogigio7031 lmao nailed it. But it does kinda make you think about the situation, toddler with a toolbox and told to get after it, and a small block on the engine stand......meh we kinda just have to wait and see if she'll crank and start and not just blow up!
These is a Communist propaganda channel.
Over 4000km high? But 900 km in distance? Doesn’t sound right.
I don’t know much about how missles/rockets work, but could it be that it’s easier to launch it high (without aiming at anything really) but much harder to launch it at an actual target, even if it is closer at “only” 900 km
Because of gravity and aerodynamics it's harder to fire 'up' than 'out', so tests are completed vertically which once the math is done give the expected range, payload and speed etc. Really interesting subject tbh :)
Note that it potentially doesn't matter that the missile submarine sucks and can't hide forever. They can still survive a first strike simply by operating near North Korean shores where they can be protected by North Korean land based and surface assets, or hide near Russian/Chinese waters where those countries wouldn't be particularly enthusiastic about a huge SK/US led ASW effort.
this is really horrible if you think about how their population is starving and freezing
Maybe you lift sanctions from North Korea then?
It is reasonably impressive. The USA had German scientists and engineers to drive success in NASA via operation paperclip post WW2. What we see from NASA today, if we remove SpaceX from that consideration, is pretty average at best in terms of launches and crazy wasteful in terms of budget. Contrast this with what other nations such as India are achieving and it becomes more stark for NASA's achievement in recent decades.
Frankly I’m surprised authoritarian regimes don’t successfully pull off mega-projects more often given their ability to dictate the allocation of funds and labor however they choose.
I love you content. Incredible how diverse it is. Do you operate a team or do you run your content yourself?
Hey NK, maybe consider doing some Megaprojects that don't involve a nuclear apocalypse?
TBF, a submarine with diesel-electric engine can be even stealthier than a nuclear one for a simple reason: you can turn off the engine and just stand still completely silent. I'm not saying that the NK sub would be quieter, it would not, but the stealthier subs on the planet are NOT the nuclear one, but the type 212.
I got an ad for JB weld before a NK mega projects video and couldn't help but laugh
0:08 Meanwhile / The USA still uses 8" floppy Discs to launch it's Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles!!! :(
Imagine the security needed for these weapons.
Now imagine your tech is so old that no one has the tech any more to interface with it.
You now have secure hardware.
Additionally, this was purpose built hardware when these were new in the 70s, they do the job and do it well. We have no reason to change a functional, well understood system just because it's old. Need drives obsolescence, not age. It doesn't need to do any more then make sure object A intersects object B.
I believe the US started switching to solid state some years back. At least I do recall some press around that, no idea what happened from there but I guess details of modern, current solutions aren't really supposed to be public knowledge so not knowing would be the norm.
So you want nuclear missiles to be connected to internet??TO launch them from Android APP? OR maybe from Smart TV..yes that would be modern
@@dzonikg I belive the point here is, despite romaticized nostalgia, really old rarely actually mean "reliable and effective". Especially when it comes to utility tools, means and tech. 8" floppies weren't even particularly reliable back when they were our primary data storage. They were never made for long term storage (neither physically or in terms of data integrity), and even the freshest ones out there are knocking on 30 years old at least.
@@pr0xZen Some things were more reliable some not.I used 8 inch floppies on my first computer Commodore 64.
But some things now are just more complicated then they need to be.Like i still use Office 2013 or many older programs instead off new versions
Computer chips are more important.
They are obsessed with over grown firecrackers. They are good at it.
"literally the stuff of night bears" gotta love the auto captions!
Thank you for being honest that your AI images are AI. I personally dont mind you using them as long as you are transparent about it.
That AI pic of Kim on the Moon was quite funny I can't lie.
Surprisingyly successful megaprojects... in sideprojects. Brutal.
So what happened to the ‘unsuccessful’ teams. Take your time.
FINALLY Simon gets to do a North Korean video that won't get him on a list.
No stairs for Fact Boi this time!😅
How many channels do you have?
In 2009, North Korea announced more ambitious future space projects, including its own crewed space flights and the development of a partially reusable crewed shuttle launch vehicle mockup, which was displayed at Mangyongdae Children's Palace.
I'm noticing a trend with their megaprojects
man stop making me root for the underdog here
I find it hard to believe that picture of Kim Il-Jung on the Moon is AI generated, it looks soooo realistic 🤣🤣🤣
But seriously their rockets look pretty darned cool
I didn't know why you described NK as having "struggled" in its space program. Do you know how many rockets NASA and the JPL blew up?
"sir, 'Nasa' is already taken!"
"Then we shall call it... Nata!"
T is one better than S
The dreaded floppy disc, what's funny is that maybe it could
It’s crazy that only after 5 years of Soviet and US control, this country was radicalized enough to take up arms against their brethren. Note that in the 40 odd years of Germany being divided between East and West, there wasn’t a civil war. It’s always perplexed me.
There's several reasons why, first is that both Koreas were dictatorships, second is that Germany was seen as the defacto Frontline of the two worlds moreso than Korea so fighting was more common, thirdly is that the north was more concerned about state survival than reunification during the 90s, fourth is that east Germany got blindsided by the lack of support by communist party members which led to the end of the state. This is what led to the fighting after the ceasefire
The initial fighting was because the north believed it could reunify the peninsula on its own
@@Minka-ot9xl fascinating. Thanks for the insight
Well I just learned some stuff
the Soviets did not care for East Germany, especially towards the end. They viewed it as a net-negative and more of a hassle than it was worth. Stalin actually even offered for Germany to be united into one when he was still alive and the other allies didn’t want that. Also while there may not have been a war, there was definitely cultural conflict and tension after reunification, as most East Germans viewed themselves as Soviets by the time the wall fell, and not just the younger ones (because obviously they did since if you were under 40 or so you never even lived under non-Soviet controlled East Germany, and even the older population, unless you were amongst the elderly, then you likely had been a soviet and viewed the East as better and more of your “home” since you’d have spent longer living there than you would have living in the west
I'm thinking a video on the things discovered separately the most times would be interesting. Like rocket engines and jet engines. How many separate times in history have wheels been 'invented' or beer or sails.
The graph at 7:44 states the distance from LA to DC is 1.5k km. Am I just interpreting this wrong, or are they woefully inaccurate on that one, as it's over double that distance 🤔
Oh no! Simon and the Sideprojects team must have downed their own weight in Kool-Aid!
I have no love for North Korea, but keep the videos about them coming! It's like watching mini dystopian horror films.
Not even close
@@redpipola in your opinion.
Simon is like Alton Brown's younger brother...😅
Which is a complement.
Video leads off with North Korea's space program, and the same day the video is released, their spy satellite blows up mid-launch 😂
‼️ Million subs!!! Congratulations! ‼️
A lot of the NK Juche philosophy really appeals to me. Its a very can do, sweat of our brow outlook, Its a hard philosophy for hard people, and I think it has much to do with the success in projects like these; and although I like to live by the principles of self reliance and strength having to live under it as law would be frightening.
When was the former Great Britain had anything close to a Megaropject?
koreans are extraordinary people. north korea is a perfect example.
How is it surprising that when a country dedicate the entirety of their budget to the military they could achieve these things. What would be _surprising_ is if we hear someone from rural North Korea telling us what great developments happened in their area that they’re now prosperous and well-fed. I would be waiting for that over stupid useless missiles anytime.
How many youtube channels does this guy have?
Does the floppy disc have number munchers and Oregon trail disguised as a total control computer virus?
last time I was this early, Korea was a country
"Side Projects" refers to the many projects of Simon. Sheesh!
The success story we DON'T want to see.
However, its important to note things like this so we're never deluded into thinking sanctions or non-violent actions work.
so you do not have a problems with wars your elite wage, but the lack of wars? 😂😂😂 oh my, your grandpa must have been a completely nnocent German that came to US to get away from communist threat... 😂😅
The achievements in order: Rockets, Rockets, Nuclear Rockets, Submarine.
Submarines that launch nuclear rockets.
Simon, please, I love your content and your channels, but the AI images are JARRINGLY bad. I have to agree with the others voicing this here. You can do better
Agreed. 👍
😅
He could do better, by using more. 2 isn't enough when I know most ai programs pump out at least dozen to choose from.
🤓
How many people know that before the Korean War, what is now North Korea was wealthier than what is now South Korea?
Man... that whole place is nutty AF. Also didnt they just have one of their subs sink for like... no reason at all?😂
Well when you're building because your life depends on the outcome is bound to be good.
Those altitude numbers, you sure you're not adding a zero? 🤔
I know pizza and burger is from north korea I think golf too most things actually come from there
Credit where credit is due. I like it.
It’s crazy how every nation that defies the whims of the most powerful nation to have ever existed all just so happen to be despotic, insane, inept etc.
What other traits do they share?
@@xjunkxyrdxdog89 one common thing they often share is that not a cent of their economy / resources goes into the hands of American businessman.
I’ve got spuUurs that jingle jangle jingle
The US government does know alot about NK rockets. You think the US did recover all them rockets that crashed into the sea of Japan. They literally have teams that specialize in that kid of recover.
Hell the US recovered a Russian sub from the bottom of the ocean in the 70s, they can definitely recover a rocket in friendly waters off the coast of Japan.
Minus the new satellite rocket they fired off last night. A very expensive firework 🎆🎇🎆🎇
I’ll never understand why nobody especially NATO didn’t do whatever was necessary to prevent North Korea from making nuclear weapons BEFORE they did.
AFAIK N. Korea has a defense agreement with China; so declaring war on one means war with the other as well. And NATO still wants a few years before it takes on China.
Submarine Diesel Engines can be super stealthy, didn't the Finish or was it Norway remain undetected with theirs under a US ship during an exercise?
I will say i enjoy the AI images atleast when they are clearly labeled and you can see its almost artistic in nature
Well. The reason they have good quality due to stable population that continues to decrease and less cities. I would say the Capital mostly
Impressive.
Im no longer sure what success means.
Neat.
More successful than UK Trident launches. LOL
most of the projects arround weapons tech 😂
Basically North Korea gets a participation medal. The video.
Their version of NASA is Nada? Like Spanish for zilch... 😂
bro where is the D in Technology (National Aerospace Technology Administration)
Oh no! North Korea has captured Fact Boi, taken him to The Basement, and is forcing him to make North Korean propaganda! 🤣
100€ A North Korean will watch this from North Korea. It's happened before
Was it Kim Jong Un?
@@laurencewinch-furness9450 has to be. Or his sister
I like this. I want to know more about human achievements regardless of which country did it. Remember, some of those who are making these achievements possible are just normal people wishing for a better life. Its not their fault where they live.
Oh. Also, stop using those ai generated images. They cheapen all of your channels.
"Also, stop using those ai generated images. They cheapen all of your channels."
This. ☝
Echoing, please do not use AI images, I understand how it can help aid in storytelling to fill in the gaps - but one of my favorite things about your channel is looking at each of the sourced historical images
At least they are not bombing kids
That rocket is a joke. It needs to be pointy.
I don't think NK has enough room to hold more than POC testing when it comes to nukes. The US, China, and Russia have plenty of empty areas to play with that stuff that are larger than NK as a whole. The US land based testing area alone is 50-75% the land area of the whole NK.
🤦 Edit: Leave it to the Kim family to full scale a 50Kt H-Bomb in a country half the size of Nevada. At least they contained it to a relatively remote valley.
North Korea renamed their space agency NADA, lmfao the jokes write themselves
Lol James Martin is my hotel name.
Never underestimate the KOREAN people. North or south, they are ALL
KOREANS. I am a proud korean.
The food aid we provided helped them do this.
Your wrong, Simon. The NK diesel subs are MUCH more quiet than most nuclear powered subs. You have to continuously pump coolant through the nuclear core while the diesel use silent electric motors fed by banks of deep cycle batteries. This is not an obsolete design, it has only gotten better and quieter as technology progresses. All other things being equal, a diesel boat will always be much quieter than anything running on atomic power. These old diesel boats are not to be underestimated, especially when crewed by fanatics happy to die so long as they get a single torpedo off at the enemy.
Wow, North Korea ain’t so bad after all 🇰🇵 🥳
Time for Liam to go on a trip 🙃
North Korea is an example of how far you can get technologically if you put the majority of your government budget into developing these military projects and give zero cares about your citizens or simple things like human rights.
North Korea has been extremely dedicated to these projects because they are all linked to the goal of a nuclear deterrent. Space program just helps develop the technologies needed for ICBM and SLBM's.
North korea knows it wouldn't stand a chance in a war against south korea's far better funded military or the support it would get from the US. It knew that a nuclear deterrent was its only hope for survival long term as a nation, and it has managed that. Whilst south Korea still maintains a million man military and mandatory service, they're not ever going to be launching an invasion when Seoul is well in range of nuclear armed missiles. Particularly if North Korea manage to establish a continual at sea deterrent which appears to be their goal with the construction of multiple SLBM Subs.
Even with anti missile defences, you still wouldn't want to roll that dice. because even if a single warhead out of 40 gets through that defence, the entire city is annihilated.
It can only last so long. Up until 1991 they were doing relatively well, they were even richer than China or South Korea at the time. It’s only been 30 years since they’ve hit rock bottom, and it takes a few decades for revolutionary figures to arise. I’d say they have 10-20 years left before things start getting very shaky.