Tisas D10 10mm Honest Review - A "Cheap" 10mm 1911?
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The Tisas D10 10mm by SDS Imports is a cheap 1911 chambered in 10mm for budget minded enthusiasts. Is this the best 10mm 1911 for the money or is there a better option? In this video review I go over whether or not this Turkish 10mm 1911 is a good bang for your buck and if it is worth it. This affordable 10mm 1911 might not be as "affordable" as you'd hope.
For my CZcams manual reviewer: I am a certified instructor and range safety officer. This was safely filmed at a designated range. For the love of god I'm following your rules.
I own this gun it is top notch I never herd anyone ever say anything bad about tesas other then this guy!
Same, I picked up the B45 Duty as my first 1911, gutted it and dropped in all WC Bulletproof internals, beaver, safety, and hand fitted everything... Took some time but now I have perfectly serviceable Tool steel internals as spare parts and mine runs amazingly... Lil Beaver S*it talking Tisas won't hurt the brand for me, I'll be picking up the Tisas D10 w/rails and the 407kX2 for an optic, should be a ton of fun
I recently acquired a Tisas D10. I had none of the problems he speaks of. I fired 40 rounds today. No malfunctions of any kind. No loosening of anything. I will put 200 rounds through it & post again.
Sounds like you got a good one! 👍
Same with me. I've had no issues he speaks of. I've been shooting 10mm since 1993.this gun is a very decent gun and it's reliable!
How’s it doing now? I’m thinking about picking one up
I just bought one a couple of weeks ago and not gonna lie I haven't had an issue with mine at all granted mine has only had 54 rounds through it (2 buffalo bore heavy loads and 2 underwood heavy loads)
Try another 500 round..and you will see what is he talking about..😂
Hey there!! It's your friendly Gunsmiths (Don & Ryan) here at SDS Imports / Tisas USA. We just wanted to thank you for the honest and unbiassed review of our 1911 D10 pistol. It's reviews like yours that help us build better products.
We hope that you can squeeze in one of our popular 'budget friendly' pistols sometime soon. Keep up the good work!
Hey guys! Thanks for the excellent customer service and for going above and beyond the industry norm of communication and doing a stellar job with the warranty repair. It's great to know that SDS/Tisas has talented and friendly gunsmiths backing up their products.
While I don't have plans to purchase another Tisas any time soon, I'd be happy to give Tisas another shot and review a different 1911. If you would like to send one my way for review I can be reached on Instagram or by email (both in the video description.) Thanks for leaving a comment! SDS/Tisas is lucky to have you!
You shouldn't have to rely on CZcams reviews or customers complaing to make a better product. The people making them and your quality control people should have caught these issues and fixed/improved them before setting them aside for shipment. Your customers are NOT your quality control test subjects. Your product should be in excellent working condition prior to leaving your facility.
TISA SDS 1911 Seem like a good budget friendly in 45 acp specially when on sale. Was wondering if they had it in 10mm but for that price and quality, I think I’ll rather get there lower end .45.
My Tisas 1911 A-1 is a truly great piece of work! No problems. Equals the reliability and performance of my 1911 produced in 1918. No small feat. Better than much more expensive big name 1911s that I own. My original "Black Colt" is an all original family bring back from the First World War. I bought the Tisas after I was convinced by much research that Tisas was really a quality product. The Tisas is my new Coach Pistol. (Truck Gun)
The original Colt was just too valuable. This Tisas 1911A-1 is the perfect replacement for this firearm.
SDS firearms are superb and no matter the company you buy from, in today's market when guns are at a premium and every dealer is rushing to get their product out to the public,
then you will absolutely, without doubt find problems with merchandise from ALL the manufacturers. Before long, SDS and Tisas will be at the top of the marketplace in the
manufacture and quality of their firearms...write this down!
Your experience does not mirror mine. My D10 has the best out-of-the-box trigger of any factory 1911 I've owned and that's well into double digits. Of the three 1911 10mm pistols I've owned, (D10, Kimber Stainless II and Fusion Firearms Long Slide) the D10 is easily the most accurate. It's been 100% reliable. The only problem I've had is the grip screws backed out a little and a bit of fingernail polish has taken care of that. So my take on the D10 is positive.
Thanks for sharing your experience! 👍 I wish that’s how mine would have turned out. Glad to hear you are happy with yours, at least!
mine is fine as well it even ate buffalo bore heavy loads under 100 rounds and it doesn't have anything this guy mentioned.
I have several of their .45 versions and they are fantastic, most of them have far superior fit and finish to my more expensive 1911s. The D10 would make a good project gun given it’s forged frame and receiver. Thanks for the honest review on this firearm! And yeah, those issues are a deal breaker for me as I would not be happy to spend $700+ for a gun that may lack the quality of my $500 TISAS pistols.
Agreed, my friends have all had good luck with their .45s. But for $700+, this D10 just wasn’t it for me.
I just placed a bid on one of these. Very NICE job young man!!! You've got my subscription, look forward to watching more great reviews.
Welcome to the channel! 👋 I’m glad you enjoyed the review!
I have a .45 APC version and its fantastic. I am looking at 10mm to be my next purchase. Great video. Gives me some considering to do.
Love my Tisas Duty 1911 in 45 ACP, fit and finish is excellent and have had no issues with multiple styles of cast lead bullet reloads. If you do your part, it shoots where you aim it.
Every Tisas Duty and Milspec in .45 I’ve shot has been excellent for the money. That’s why I was so surprised by the D10. Good to hear yours runs great 👍
Yep same for me bro
Got mine on buds for 707 after tax and fit and finish better than could have hoped
That’s great to hear! 🙌 How does it run?
The fact that the gun rattles may be why it is reliable. If it is accurate I would not worry about it.
Exactly. When I deal with people who complain about 1911 rattle I realize they haven't shot many 1911s. And if they own any 1911s they likely haven't put many rounds through them.
I have one of thier 45 carry commander sized pistols. Fit and finish are really good. It was pretty tight out of the box but has loosened up a bit after a couple hundred rounds. It is accurate and hits where aimed. I did have about a dozen feed failures early on. I retensioned the extractor and polished it as well as polished the breechface. Its about 90 percent reliable now. The mags it comes with are crap. I will try some wilson combat mags and see if that brings it up to 100 percent. If not it may be goung back for repair. All in all for the 300 bucks i payed its not bad.
It's a great "starter" 1911 and at the 300-400 dollar price range its a steal!
Good honest review. Thanks.
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First off, great video as always, I personally own the Glock 20 and 29, depending on where I'm going, I still carry the 29, I look forward into picking up a 1911 chambered in 10mm ( Les Baer ) or something like that when I can afford it.
It’s hard to beat the G20/G29/G40 family. High capacity, lightweight, reliable 👍 Les Baer in 10mm would be awesome! I’ve got my eye on the Dan Wesson Kodiak/Bruin.
@@NightwoodGuns Sweet!!
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Wow, my LGS has a ton of Tisas and just got in the D10's finally. I picked one up and I have to say I haven't had a single issue like you have. And out of all the Tisas 1911's I have fingered, and boughten, not ONE has a slide that is that loose nor have any of my (4) Tisas had those issues or any issues for that matter. Seems like you drew the shit end of the stick unfortunately but glad to see you document a case of a bad gun, and what SDS did to fix it. I would be pretty upset with my purchase as well if my gun was like yours. Especially given how well the other ones I have ran for me.
Personally, I'm glad that they did the checkering, the G10 grips and the Bomar cut rear sight. All those are QOL updates that I wish they put on their basic models as well. The G10 being the one choice I think should be standard on all Tisas. Yes, they aren't as nice as my VZ grips, but the base models really ought to come with no grips at all because that's how worthless the stock grips are. I've been looking at doing the front strap checkering on my B45 and its going to be $145 for the checkering, than another $110 to refinish the frame. If I wanted bomar cut sights thats another 85 + 95 for refinish. And the VZ grips I bought were $75. Thats a LOT of extra money if you do it yourself for what I consider to be a decent and fair price from the factory.
To be fair, I don't mind the extra money in customization of my Tisas, and every one of my Tisas I have spent the cost of the gun in parts for the gun. Triggers, grips, refinishes, hammers, magwells, slide stops, thumb saftey, grip safteys, new slide... I don't change these out because they are bad but because I love to tinker and make the guns my own, and so far the forged frame IMO has been the perfect starting point for a 1911 build. And I have been lucky so far with nothing but great products from them. Just for some perspective my parts list right now totals to $550 for my D10. That isn't including the LPA Fiber optic rear sights, the red fiber optic inserts for the rear sight, the front fiber optic sight (Those three will be about 150) need to also have the slide engraved (custom engraving) and the slide than refinished. Probably another $200 since I have sent my engraver a bunch of work and cerakote jobs.
Anyways great video and Im glad you are upfront about your experience.
Thank you for taking the time to write up your experience for anyone that takes a trip down to the comment section. My experience is the only one I can speak for, and getting two crappy ones back-to-back was insane to me, lol. A few of my buddies have the Milspec and Duty models and I have been really impressed with them for the price.
If my D10 had a good fit/finish and was reliable, I’d be a little happier with it at 750 bucks considering the features. But man, I just had two bad examples back to back. And it hits me even harder because I’m playing with my own money on this channel, I don’t get free guns like some other channels. And throwing 750 into a lackluster 1911 is different than throwing 400 bucks at one. As a consumer, I was pretty let down. You’d think they would have checked the second one over a bit more regardless of whether or not it was headed to a CZcams channel.
I think Tisas make for great project/starter 1911s with their forged parts and series 70 internals. I was pretty bummed that the D10 just didn’t work out for me. I’m glad that you are happy with yours, though! 👍
@@NightwoodGuns No problem, it's good to hear experiences from everyone who owns these guns. Personally, I always go to the bad reviews over the good ones to kind of see what to expect and unfortunately theres not many for SDS so it either means they have a relatively good QC, or it means those who buy them simply get rid of them with the slightest problems... and I understand your pain of having to supply the guns yourself. In a sense it's better that way for a true test of the company's guns (Look at the prodigy and how all the reviewers got great guns but the actual guns that went to market have tons of issues) but it just sucks that much more when you get a lemon.
I can appreciate the fact that SDS made good on their warranty, but I almost feel as if they went the easy route for the gun they gave you back. "It can't malfunction if we give it a looser tolerance." I get that 1911's were originally pretty loose guns to account for debris and actual fighting. But like you said for $750 street price it's a bit upsetting to be sent something THAT loose. And when you say it was 2 different guns did, they have 2 separate serial numbers? Or is it possible they sent you a new top end on your original frame?
Have you sent them another email about the gun? They may tell you to kick rocks, but I would be interested to hear what they say about it being so loose now. Either way it's a huge let down that you got 2 bad ones in a row (one on functionality, other on fit and finish)
Either way I'm disappointed that this was what you got for your first own Tisas, and even more disappointed that they sent that back to you and called it good.
I completely agree with your assessment 👍 Well said! And it was a completely different gun with a brand new serial number. I didn’t reach back out to SDS because I was already a total 7 weeks into testing/fixing the gun and I was ready to move on and recoup some funds. Sold it and ended up losing about $100. I totally understand being curious about what they would’ve done, but seeing as it would have taken another 5 weeks to find out… I was ready to cut my losses. I’m not opposed to getting another Tisas… but I would get a much cheaper model and I would check it over thoroughly before filling out the 4473. Thanks again for your input 👍
Not interested in 10mm, but I do have a stingray in 9mm, and a PX-9 duty. Bothare exceptional firearms for very little money, and have had no reliability problems with either. Sometimes issues slip through the cracks, but from everything Ive seen SDS is always willing to help and make the customer 100% whole. It's a good thing because there are brands with much more prestige that seem to do very little to help their customers without a lot of hassling. Tisas is great and they have a place right next to my Arex, Sig, Walther, and Beretta pistols.
I got the duty and the d10 both are excellent shooters.
I’ve got four Tisas 1911’s. Three 45acp’s and a 9mm’s. Fit and finish is good on all of them. After a few hundred rounds no problems , still tight slide fit. I’ve got a RIA 10mm. Selling it as soon as I get a Tisas 10mm. RIA isn’t in the same class as Tisas.
Thanks for a honest review 👌
I haven't shot one of these but will say that a lot of different gun manufacturers seem to have a hard time making a good 1911 10mm. I own several and actually got a dud from Springfield armory in an RO Elite a few years back the gun had the same issue as your first gun with the jams i figured out the issue was a small lip at the top of the feed ramp where it leads into the chamber. I fixed the issue myself and its very reliable now but never should have left the factory the way it was. I paid 950 for that gun. You want a 1911 10mm that wont give you issues go with a Dan Wesson Razorback but its 2x the price I had 2 failure to feed in the first 100 rounds due to the tight tolerances but have put another 1000 rounds through it since without a single issue.
Gun Nerd!!! Yay! I wonder why this channel does not have 100k subs! Superb content, terrific presentation.
Thanks! Glad you are still enjoying the videos! Based on my channel’s analytics… YT just isn’t showing my videos to many people. My average click through rate is super high, audience retention is well above average, my ratios are near perfect and my subscriber rate is high. The algorithm just isn’t putting my videos in front of a lot of people. All I can do is just keep up with consistent uploads and hope that changes. Always appreciate your supportive comments, though! 🙌
@@NightwoodGuns I share your ch w/ gun guys I know….
Thanks for sharing the channel! That’s an awesome way to help the channel grow 👍 Much appreciated!
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I’m looking at the night stalker or Yukon over this model. What are you thoughts on Magnum Research 1911s?
Magnum Research 1911s are a great bang for your buck. There’s been a small frequency of QC issues that I’ve seen, but overall they are decent for the money.
Excellent honest, unbiased, and truthful video. You saved me some money!
I’m glad you found the review helpful 👍
I own five Tisas1911 s none of them raddel when you shake them!
Great video 😁👍 watching you shake it and hearing it. It sounds like those wined up chatter teeth. I was looking into the Yukon C10 10mm. If you can get one of those and review before I drop cash that would be greatly appreciated. Hope to see
Great review, how would you compare the D10 with the Night Stalker or Raider. I’ve been on the fence between the 3, cheers!
They are all the same quality. This one was just way overpriced at launch. These are sub 600 dollar 1911s in my opinion. It’s nice that they are forged, but quality is hit or miss. Great starter 1911s 👍
@@NightwoodGunsThanks man I appreciate the feedback.
"The Ronin is only a hundred dollars more" aha... heh... yeah man :)... :(
Side note: If you don't have checkering on your 1911, one super stealth product I recommend is called 1911 Snake Strap. One dude cuts front strap tape from rattlesnake skin and I think it's much nicer than Talon grips, it actually fits underneath the panels without a gap.
Great video! This is the stuff we NEED to hear about these guns!
Lol! Glad you enjoyed the vid! And thanks for the tip about the Snake Strap! Sounds cool, I’ll check it out! 👍
I have a tisas 45. No issues so far. The d10 i looked at a few weeks ago also had beautiful fit and finish. You can pick them up on buds guns for $600. Sucks your experience was what it was
Yeah, back to back bad experiences at 700 bucks. Now people are getting them for just over 500 and that’s WAY more like it. 👍
Awesome review Nerd Wood Guns NWG🇺🇸🤘
Haha, thanks! 👍
It’s a good review. Thank you. I don’t want to buy Tisas 1911 anymore.
Glad you enjoyed the review 👍
I want a reliable double stack 10mm 1911 for 1500 or less. Do you have any experience with the RIA 1911s? I know you can get them worked over by Hayes Custom.
The only area RIA lacks in is fit and finish, that is small parts and aesthetic quality. Sometimes slide/frame fit and barrel fit. They save a lot of money on parkerizing their guns over other types of finishes and internals can be sloppy as they aren't exactly gone over by a skilled gunsmith. You're likely to get a heavier than normal trigger, loose slides, and it's very likely that not all of the lugs on the barrel will lock up (this is common on all "mid" and "budget" tier 1911s though) and worst case scenario I've heard of RIAs with feed ramps having a bad cut and causing feeding issues. If you're willing to upgrade your internal components like with a Nighthawk DTS you should be good to go. Any problems with your barrel feed ramp can be remedied by warranty service. We know a guy who has both a Staccato XC and an RIA HC he's done a good bit of custom work with and he competes with the RIA, is actually looking for a buyer for the XC.
The RIA double stack 10mm I shot was pretty unreliable. I would definitely expect to have it worked over. I would prioritize tuning the mags or getting better ones. Unfortunately, the best double stack 10mms are Glocks 😬 I’d love to see Staccato make a double stack 10mm, though.
@@KatoCoyoteCombatWorkshop I just want to reinforce everything you said. You are spot on.
@Kato Custom Shop thanks for the write up I didn't even know the dts was an option. The anecdote about the guy with an XC and a customized RIA definitely makes me want to try and get custom work done to one.
The Springfield or the Kimber in that price range. I enjoy both. 🤠👮🏻♂️👍🇺🇸👻👏🌚😉🍀👋🙀😼. B9USA Sr
I'm looking at getting one in the next month or so 560 for that one or 620 with fiber optic front sights and u cut rear . I'm thinking of the ones with the fiber optics
I have the Tisas US army 1911A1 model. It was under $400 and doesn't rattle that much.
Wow. Good to know, thanks for telling me 👍
My Tisas 1911A1 doesn’t rattle at all and everything else is excellent. And I’m picky about my guns! Damn fine gun!
@@michaelhodges8312 Seems like that model is good to go!
Is the Ronin the pistol that requires a paper clip to field strip?
There’s a smaller ronin that requires that. But the full size should be standard.
I laughed a little too much at this, my wife is giving me looks.
Lol! 😂
I bought one about 3 months ago for only $600. I had over $200 in gift cards I used that day. I’ve had no problems either and I used aftermarket mags, too - Chip McCormick 9 round mags. I will say that the gun seemed it needed a tranquilizer it was sprung so tight. Loosened some with some Rem Oil on the slide, as well as on the mag release button and about 50 rounds down range and I can rack the slide without a mechanical engineering degree. I have several other 1911s I openly EDC - a Sig ultra compact TacOps version in .45 Auto and a Ruger Lightweight Commander in .45 Auto and a Springfield RO Compact in 9mm - and don’t intend to EDC the Tisas EVER. If I decide I want to carry something in 10mm I have several others I intend to carry. But, I’m not looking for the most expensive gun to buy - if I see some good looking guns I decide I want I’m not averse to buying 2-3 guns at a time. It’s perfectly legal in my state and has never been questioned at the time of purchase. After 5 months of hospitalization last year (surgical) my first day home I went out and bought 2 handguns to treat my steel withdrawal. The only gun I ever convinced myself I needed (wanted?) at great expense has been a Sig P2XX in 10mm but at $1500 they are always sold out when I go shopping for firearms - how unlucky can a guy be?
Does it have a ramped barrel?
Yep 👍 I mentioned it in the video, but it was easy to miss.
The girsan 1911's definitely have a better fitting slide to frame than the tisas do, my tisas stingray carry pistol is a friggen rattle trap.
If you didnt clean the firearm before you shot it the first time you have a packing grease problem. Any gun you buy from Europe or Asia comes packed in rust blocker.
I clean and oil every firearm before I shoot it 👍
I own 2turkish 1911's a tisas and a girsan and both came with eiffel tower front sights.
Hmm, sorry you had all these problems. All the other Tisas guns seems to be pretty solid. Maybe they have a few bugs to work out on this model?
Yeah, I know a lot of people with other models of Tisas that have had great experiences. It was pretty crazy getting two less-than-stellar models back to back. Especially considering it is one of their pricier offerings. Hopefully they get it worked out.
Isn't the Tisas forged rather than cast like Springfield or rock island?
Springfield is forged. RIA is cast, but it’s not like Rock Islands are cracking and breaking all over the place. Tisas has less MIM parts than Springfield, though. I hear Tisas are typically great, I just had two bad ones back to back. Including one that’s was hand picked from the warehouse. I think the cheaper Tisas would make great starter/builder 1911s since they are forged. But for the price of the D10, it should work and not be as sloppy, in my opinion.
@@NightwoodGuns Yeah for the price it should be better i think Springfield is cast ,I have Dan Wesson 10mm razorback
You're right forged
As far as production 1911s go, Dan Wesson can’t be beat. But you get what you pay for, haha! You know I love my Specialist! I have my eye on a Razorback, though… 😁
Our steel guns have forged frame and slides. We do not use any cast parts.
This is a Really Good Gun overall, but there is always going to be a couple with issues. My 2 Rock Islands would not run. The SDS Guys Rock! Excellent Customer Service from SDS and Tisas! I Really Love The 45ACP 1911’s from them. Mine run Perfect.
🤠👮🏻♂️👍😉👏🇺🇸👻🌚👋🍀🙀😼
B9USA Sr.
I personally think 750 is a bit steep for this guy. The .45 acp is phenomenal in that 350-500 range depending on the model. You get A LOT of gun for your money with those. Regardless, I was satisfied with the customer service, like you said 👍 Good guys over at SDS!
Found it for $559 new on gunbroker. At that price you can’t really complain if it’s a lemon lol. Gotta roll the dice I guess.
Yes, definitely worth it at that price! They clearly knew it was overpriced at release. If I had paid 560 for it, the review would have been much more forgiving 👍
The Rock Islands are cast, but the real deal breaker for me in them is the Mickey Mouse paperclip bullshit to take the gun apart.
Most reviews of the Tisas D10 are favorable. I'd also like to know how the Girsan 10mm 1911s imported by EAA stack up to the Tisas. But I won't buy anything from Springfield. And needing tools to take the RIA apart is an absolute deal breaker for me.
I hear you. The D10 can now be had for 550-600 and I do recommend it for that price. They knew it was overpriced at launch.
I was at a guns show this weekend when i was presented one of these. I too was impressed with how smooth the fit and finish seemed.
I was able to get mine for 600 credits new. And that's what brought me to this video. Haven't had any of the problems you've mentioned, but I've only put 4 mags through it. Still feels smooth to me, but this being my 1st 1911 i dont have much to go off of other than the used and abused ones i shot 50 rounds each through at my local range. So far im happy with the purchase
I’m glad yours is working out! 👍
@nightwoodguns my biggest guess is that quality control isn't the best. I've seen a few more examples online where it seems some people just aren't getting a great product while some others have no complaints.
How is $799.00 list price a budget gun ?
It’s a budget 10mm 1911, at least. Now they go on sale for 500-600, which is much better.
You are absolutely RIGHT, about it being a $500 to $550 pistol. Looked at them the other day, and wouldn't have another Tisas (already have a .45 acp Stainless Tisas, and trying to g"unload" it NOW...!) For that kind of money, a Ronin is the way to go!
(For all you Tisas "Lovers" out there, mine doesn't shoot straight, has machining imperfections, the checkering isn't the "best", and it occasionally jams running HP rounds! I had a Kimber in .45 acp that I couldn't shoot near as good as my Buls or Ronins, and the guy I sold it to had the same problems with accuracy!). To each their own, I guess!
Yep, luckily they can be had for 500-550 now 👍 It seems they knew it was overpriced
Some of us who shoot alot like real target sights for Precision work.
I have both a Ronin 10mm and a Tisas D10. The D10 is tight and reliable. The Ronin is a rattletrap, has been back to Springfield twice, and it's now just taking up space in my safe. I'll probably dump it on the market to someone who want's to tinker with it and try to make it actually get through two mags without jamming up. I'm done with Springfield. So disappointing.
Yikes, sounds like Springfield has gone down the toilet 😬 The D10 can now be had for around 550. Much better price and I definitely recommend it 👍
@@NightwoodGunsThat really bothers me because SA is an American company building traditionally American guns. Tisas is a Turkish company that builds surprisingly good quality guns of American design.
Why can't the USA get its act together and produce quality again?
I also have a D10. It's accurate and reliable. Lots of fun to shoot. Never failed.
@@paranrs Yeah, it’s very disappointing that many American companies are slipping with quality and quality control.
Honest review. Subd with a (bell)
Glad you enjoyed the review 👍 Thanks for the sub! Much appreciated!
5" 1911s in 10mm are known for beating themselves apart. Ask anyone who has owned a Delta Elite how long it took for that gun to start shaking itself apart and in some cases completely imploding. That's why the 6" 1911 10mm's took off so well, the extra reciprocating mass helps to tame that round. If you are going to spend any appreciable amount of time shooting 1911s and putting tons of rounds through them (no matter the caliber), get used to Slide Rattle, it will show up in every 1911 eventually. Personally, I'd never suggest a cast frame 1911 over a forged frame 1911, you lost me there.
Fair enough. I’m just hesitant with the steel quality used Turkey. No one really knows exactly how they do things to save money. Assuming they do it right, forged is the way to go. Now that this gun goes for sub-$600 I actually recommend it.
Compares a gun with machined internals to a gun with a Springfield with mim internals.
Are Springfield MIM parts breaking all the time?
@@NightwoodGuns look at the Prodigy feed back.
Broken MIM parts?
@@NightwoodGuns mim parts are the reason the SA-35 kept breaking extractors, why the prodigy has a shitty trigger. Why hammers are snapping etc etc. The list can go on about mim FCUs. In the end machined FCUs are expensive. Even the worst machined internals have a better feel than the best mim internals.
The Prodigy was an absolute mess. I don’t think forged parts would have made a difference. Afterall, the Prodigies that the guntube reviewer shills got all had MIM parts and ran great, lol.
I would save my money and get the Springfield
I think I would do the same 👍
I have both and both are good guns to me with no issues. Gun snob issues...
@@r1sabotage I'm a bit of a gun snob, so you are probably right 🤷♂
I have had a .45 version that ate regular ammo every time but it would fail to chamber hollow points 100% of the time
Thanks for sharing your experience with the .45 👍
I just got the Raider and it's awesome. I'm hesitant to buy the D10 because of that ugly trigger shoe and idiotic "X" they put on the slide. WHY
Agreed, they got a little cringe with the D10. The Raider looks SHARP though! 😎
That's why I have a Glock 40 Gen 4 in 10mm
Yep, that’s probably the best 10mm ever made 👍
Dude!!! I shoot a 1911 in IDPA/USPSA competition. Loose is what makes the 1911 function well. Don’t criticize a 1911 for being loose.
I hear ya. I used to shoot single stack, too. This is the first 1911 I've had that rattles like this. That includes Springfield, RIA, Kimber, Dan Wesson, Colt and Sig. All tight and reliable. If this were $400 like other Tisas models I wouldn't mind. For $750 I expect to get one that doesn't rattle while I walk. But that's just my personal preference. If you are looking for a rattlecan 1911, Tisas will be your jam!
czcams.com/video/5-P6W56dDSI/video.html this guy explains why it "bites" the casing, at the 3:40 mark, he also gives a suggestion how to fix the problem.
He breaks it down very well 👍 Interesting to see I’m not the only one who had this problem…
Things have changed a lot in 8 months. This gun is now in the $550 dollar range.
A much more appropriate price! 😎👍
Just paid 520
@@DimaSizo That’s SO much better 👍 I’d probably recommend it for that price.
Interesting, I have a Ronin and 2 Tisas pistols and the Tisas pistols are actually a bit better fit.
Yeah, the Tisas can be really nice! And now that this model can be had for 500 bucks on sale, it’s a no brainer. They knew they were overpriced at 700+
My 1911 Tisas A1 is the most reliable pistol I own.
Nice 👍 10mm?
If you hadn't mentioned that you had a YT channel we could have gotten a straight answer on the customer service.
As to the price, don't forget that this forged machine has to eat 10mm. That's a bigger challenge than the 45s or 9s. I'm guessing the price nets you a beefier chassis.
I could have lied and said I didn’t tell them: like most channels do. Heck, I could have covered up any issues I had to foster a good relationship with them so they’d send me free guns. 🤷♂️ If I could go back and say nothing, I would. I wasn’t really thinking and just wanted to be honest with you all, just like I was with them.
Since this video they have dropped the price by 100-150 dollars. They knew it was overpriced.
@@NightwoodGunsappreciate you mentioning that 👍
Bummer dude. I don't need a 10mm but the hankerings been there and I love the way this 1911 looks and after finding online for 630 I've been considering picking it up but you're not the first person I've heard bad feedback from on this. They really need to reassess this model and recall and fix what they made to match the quality of their other models cause I have a Tisas SS carry 45 and It is badass and it made me want another Tisas. I will say it's always good to hear about good customer service, makes me want to give this a chance but I'm on the fence tbh.
That’s all I was trying to say 👍 Thanks for the level-headed comment 😎
Good video. You earned a new sub due to the great format, straightforward style and lack of typical cringe gunbro tactical timmy BS /flames/heavy guitar montage intro...
Anyway, yeah I might chance buying one of these if I could fondle in person before putting a ring on it. I was prepping myself to accept a Turkish 1911 when I discovered this with its fancy features... But if it's coming from the internet Id probably go for the Ronin and support the Blue Falcons at Springfield A, for the resale value if nothing else.
Haha! That’s a tough spot. Give your money to the Turkish or the Turncoats? 😂 Glad you enjoyed the video, man! 👍
yup i won't buy tisas again after this stingray carry pistol i bought that is a rattle trap, i hate that period.
Surprising most Turkish guns are well made. The Canik ones anyways.
Other .45 ACP Tisas I’ve handled have been fine for half the price. Not sure what happened with the 10mm 🤷♂️
I don't get the entire anti-Turkey politics thing when we buy so much from China everyday.
I’m not so much anti-Turkish or anti-Chinese products. I just purchase American made products (or products from decent countries) when I can. I believe the issue with Turkey is that they are a state sponsor of terrorism. So essentially any money that goes into their economy could in some way fuel terrorism. 🤷♂️ But I’m just a dude who likes guns so it is what it is.
Many of the European guns use Turkish steel anyways. Turkey is the 8th largest steel producer.
If you buy Beretta then you're likely getting components made inside Turkey where Beretta/Benelli owns a factory.
Big oof on them. Coulda had a great review on what seems to be a pretty decent gun. Thanks for the always honest review!
Yeah… it would have been a mostly positive review if it would have been closer in price to their other models. I appreciate how they handled the situation, but it’s a bummer I got a sloppy replacement. For 750-ish I expect a bit more.
@@NightwoodGuns put lipstick on a pig, it’s still a pig. Yeah I agree with that. As a manufacturer, I would say just embrace what it and who the intended market is. If it’s for a mid tier budget minded folks, then make a product for those people. If it was intended to be high tier, then by God you better make a product that’s high tier. I know there are some manufacturers that don’t care and just put a product out there cause they know it’ll sell (and not saying that this is one of them), but I have never understood that mindset. If you gonna make a product make it to be the best so that way you can sell more cause you’ll have a consumer base that loves your product. Make a good product, and it will sell itself. Sorry don’t know why I went on a rant there, but it’s true 😂
You are 100% right. They tried to put lipstick on a 350-500 dollar product to pass it off as a higher-tier offering. I appreciated the rant, no worries! Lol! I feel the same way.
Just saw one on gundeals
For $599
to bad I'm broke
Under 600 is definitely an appropriate price 😎👍
Wooh. Lot of money
Mentioning you’re a youtuber to them definitely changes your experience with them and is clearly not a representative review
What does it say about them that I mentioned I was a CZcamsr and they sent me a rattlecan as a replacement? What would they have sent to a normal consumer? I'd say it's still a representative review since I spent 700 dollars on the firearm.
But for a $699 10mm 1911 what did you expect honestly. Plus it’s Turkish some guy drunk on vodka made this in his basement with hand files and a hammer
I expected at least similar quality to their $349 .45 acp variant.
Im in the market for a 10 mm 1911 and I was focusing in pretty hard on the Tisas d10 until I went to try one out and I did feel the grip safety bump back into my hand I went to two other gun stores and check the same situation with the dry fire and they were all the same the grip safety bumped back into my hand I just didn't like that so I called tisas I was met with a gentleman named Anthony I believe he was completely indifferent in fact he said to me that's not something that's going to affect the shoot ability so it's not covered under warranty I asked him if he could check with the gunsmith and let me know if there's an easy way to prevent that feedback into my hand he said he can't do any of that and his attitude turns me off completely to teach us I will not be buying another tea sauce I already have the stingray but I don't care if they give me one for 200 bucks they can go scratch ass
Damn who pissed in your corn flakes? The only thing negative I have to say about this gun are the sites. Didn't really like those too much but the rest of it's great for what you get and what you pay
Now that they’ve dropped the price 200 dollars, it’s a great option. They knew it was overpriced.
@@NightwoodGuns paid 700 for mine about a week ago still zero malfunctions. I would say it's the best 1911 at that price, even better than some of the more expensive ones
@@cloud9demon72 I would have liked to have gotten yours, then 😅 I have seen them on sale for 500-550 and that is an incredible price for what you get.
@@NightwoodGuns I guess there are lemons when dealing with guns just like cars.
the 1911 Night Stalker is better than this model.
It definitely looks cooler 😎👍
D.O.R.K.
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Obviously you haven’t handled a Colt within the last 5 years.🤣
Oh, I have. I just get brutalized by haters whenever I criticize Colt, lol! So I just pretend they don’t exist. Absolute junk for the price, in my opinion. It’s embarrassing.
@@NightwoodGuns yes you are correct. I have a few and they are crap.
@@NightwoodGuns Actually got rid of my Colt for the Tisas 1911A1 Army. I’m much happier!
@@michaelhodges8312 Very nice! Might have to give the 1911A1 Army a try! Everyone seems happy with it.
Seems a bit nitpicky
I think it was a fair review for 700+ dollars. Now that they are going for 500+ my feelings are different. They knew they were massively overcharging for it and ripping people off.
You complain too much 😳 just buy the pistol you want
I mean… that was the whole thing. The pistol I wanted is out of stock everywhere. I decided to try something new and I shared my experience with it. 🤷♂️ I guess I’ll just lie whenever I have an issue with a gun as not to “complain.” Lol 😂
he wants a dan wesson for 700 bucks
@@davehouk5990 Just asking for similar quality in their $700 10mm 1911 as their $400 .45 acp 1911 🤷♂️
Dude what why be an asshole, people appreciate reviews like this i know I do. I've been looking at this gun for a while finally found for less than 650 decided to do more research on whether or not it's worth buying and stuff like this is good to see when making decisions you want to hear the good and especially the bad when it comes to a company like tisas who usually makes solid guns.
It a review of Tisas D10 10mm for people who are thinking about buying it. It is you who are complaining.
I just got a couple of Tissas 1911 .45 have not shot them yet , ones a Stakout the other is a Service special , man I hope they don’t loosen up like urs
I recently bought a Tisas 10mm. I have no complaints. However this was possibly the worst gun review I've watched yet. He gave no needed information just kept whining about it raddles. Almost ever gun I own has a raddle if you shake it hard enough .
I recently made this CZcams Channel. I have no complaints. However this was possibly the worst comment I’ve read yet. All he did was whine about a free video that no one forced him to watch and he can’t even spell rattle two times back to back. Almost every commenter can spell rattle if you look at all of them.
So basically it is a Colt. Bwwaaahahaha!!
This is no budget gun. Budget is hi point. I think this guy thinks everybody should have a 2011 John wick gun lol
What 10mm 1911 is cheaper than this? I didn't say it was a budget gun. It's a budget 1911.
Glock 20 its gonna be then
That’s my recommendation 👍
Wow...hard pass on this one.
Yeah, it was a bit disappointing…
I wouldn’t call a 800$ gun cheap.
It should have cost less for what it is. Looks like it’s frequently going on sale for about 500-600 nowadays though.
If it was made in Israel you have to listen this guy differently and you can realize to bias this guy has towards to Turkish made guns!
Doesn’t matter where this gun was made, it was overpriced for what it was. They knew it because they’ve dropped the price by 100-200 dollars.
All these raving comments can't be wrong, YA THINK??¿???
Since launch they’ve sorted out a lot of issues and the price has dropped by nearly 200 bucks. If I would have waited, this likely would have been a more positive review.
Your money gone to terrorists!
It is quite possible
You "would have thought that if tuned it up for a CZcamsr?"
Give me a break dude, you're not that big...
It was a joke that clearly went over your head.
@@NightwoodGuns You sir are a comic genius, thank you for sharing your broad experience and clearly we're a lil bit star struck in awe of your selfless sacrifice, and endless encouragement.
You are the "Alpha" mail!
@@raging_rhino2582 You misunderstand, I’m an “Alfalfa” male.
@@NightwoodGuns Alfalfa male, YES we can agree on that point. Keep on making vids with the guns were all looking at or for and you'll do just fine.
@@raging_rhino2582 👍
What a mess of a gun 😔
Yeah, it was pretty rough for $700 when their $300-$400 offerings I tried had better fit/finish/reliability.
Tisas are indeed rattle traps
there is no moral question regarding turkish firearms. period.
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