@@samgilley3160 little bit of both. I remember purchasing the last half of his run and then later on in life I was able to collect all the issues going back to the spectacular Spider-Man issue that he did and then started up at Daredevil issue 158
This never gets old. I've watched it dozens of times over the years and it never ceases to fascinate me. Frank Miller, at his peak, was the best story teller the comic book medium has ever seen.
@@Holybatman3603 They def are, particularly Gaiman. All them guys are legends though. I'm just particularly very partial to 80's Frank Miller. Whether he was writing and drawing, or just writing, or just drawing, his 80's work for me was just masterful.
@@vincentmcgettigan7948 His 80's work was GOATED, i agree, i actually am a big fan of Ronin, one of his lesser known works, it's his best after Daredevil, i heavily disliked Sin City on the other hand, it felt forced and unoriginal.
@@Yashone he let his gritty writing get to his head ... What was once edgy cool and dark is now Edgy trying hard and Cringe .... Bro just fell off fr ...
not counting his sin city works, the man hasn't written a good series since 1993 but, no one can never take away the fact that batman and daredevil would not be the characters they are today without him
I personally think that all of Sin City has still been good, which ended in 1999 but nothing else since he has started Sin City, 1993, has been any good. There is The Spirit movie but that wasn't good so much as so off the wall weird entertaining and also done in a similar tone and style as Sin City. Short version, it wasn't bad so it didn't fit my point
The Martha Washington stories are very good, personally. I would also say Miller's recent story The Dark Knight: The Last Crusade is really good. I do understand though the disappointment with some of the later works. But that happens to many artists, George Lucas, Francis Ford Coppola, and Alan Moore's latter work is not the same as their earlier work.
what he says about matt as a villain is so true. i was watching the new series and it got me thinking how both he and fisk had terrible childhood. the fact that one became a baddie and the other a vigilante could have almost been the other way around...or both would have turned out to be loonies. they don't make comics like they used to.
But Black Widow was Daredevil's love interest before Miller ever became involved. Elektra didn't break new ground in that regard (having a girlfriend that could match him).
Miller is such a sick writer! I love his DD run! Strikes Again was shyit! Holy Terror was not his best but it was a quick one, he wanted it to be a Batman story but was refused so did a quick re-edit and...... We know what happened...
It would been unique how Frank Miller would had translated Moon Knight, the Defenders, Hellstorm or even Nighthawk in vein to his brutalist pulpit take of Daredevil in the 1980s.
Miller redefined Daredevil and Batman. It’s evident when you watch the Batman movies directed by Burton, Nolan, Snyder, and Reeves. Season 1 of Netflix’ Daredevil is basically Miller’s Man Without Fear and season 3 is Miller’s Born Again.
i can't believe this is the same dude that would write some of the most cliche edgy comics of all time. either he was controlled during his daredevil run or he was sent to sabotage batman lmao
Why do people do that? Troll. Who cares if people call him idiot or retaarded, usually people that do that have sad lifes. I don't care his politics, all care is his amazing work, Daredevil, Dark Knight, 300, Batman Year One, etc. I like the way he tells stories. He doesn't change the way I think about the world.
All star batman and ROBIN the boy wonder, is my #1 favorite run which was unfinished 😔 it's the fun, 80s action feel and depiction of a true troubled and villainous look at a iconic character that hasn't been explored or truly appreciated! From a moral standpoint as well as judicial, the batman is a bad guy and straight out of his rabbit mind!😎
With all do respect to Frank Miller, he is just proof that how VERY VERY VERY VERY few people get Superman and how fewer still gets his relationship with Lois Lane.
Joe Stronger The classic relationship of a God and human. The rod to the lightning. Lois Lane is such a strong Charecter Which only complements the Charecter of Superman.
you can make sense out of anything if you look hard enough...fact of the matter is superman is boring, even the creators thought so...if they didnt there wouldnt be kryptonite created
Daredevil directors cut the best Daredevil and comic accurate take of the character of all time. I like Charlie Cox but you do not see his radar sense through his eyes and Bullseye from the Daredevil show was awful. Colin Farrell Bullseye was comic accurate and a beast and Clarke Duncan did a better job than D'onforio
@termsofusepolice There is a reason people "destroyed the spirit and ideals" in the first place: By the late 70s the superhero was more than 40 years old and were unchanged for 20. Miller, among others, took the concept of a superhero and they took it apart to see how it works and learn new ways to use it. As they were, superheroes were stale and had been for years. Its only recently that the deconstruction has gotten stale and reconstruction has begun.
Batman is doing really good right now, I think Snyder is doing a great job. and I'm not sure about Daredevil I actually ordered vol. 1 of Mark Waid's series so I'll see whats that like in my opinion.
Tragick Hip-Hop I think Snyder is overrated. I loved his pre-new 52 work but his New 52 stuff is Grant Morrison's run for dumb people and Zero Year is overwritten and boring.
RomaNos dude Snyder is doing Batman pretty good justice the only reason the new 52 happened is because it was ment to introduce new comic book fans and be able to translate into movies don't believe me watch man of steel
+zisoul Bendis, Brubaker and Waid's DD runs have been awesome. In fact, out of a lot of Marvel titles, DD has had the most consistently good runs (except Shadowland).
He's right about it being unrealistic for super-heroes to date normies, but his use of Superman was a horrible example, because that would be the one exception where it would be realistic.
People knock miller, but the truth is that his 80s output was enough. Can’t blame him for taking paychecks just to plaster his name on a book. The big two don’t offer any incentive for new characters, or creativity, and the independent scene is the only place to find the best books, however independent books normally don’t cover the superhero genre. Dc has remained more consistent than marvel since marvel went bankrupt, not to mention Stan Lee’s lack of leadership over the characters. Forgive me for going off topic, but I doubt miller is really worried about pumping out the next daredevil, dark knight returns because he don’t have to deliver that caliber of story simply because dc and marvel probably pay him more money than anyone in the industry just to use his name.
MrTechselect Yeah I mean even though he didn't create Daredevil you might as well say he did because all of what makes Daredevil great comes from his run.
ShadowofBatman Not all of it. Miller has was crucial to DD's history but DD's success isn't because of Miller. You also have to look into the other writers that took over. Out of any Marvel title DD had consistently great runs. Waid's run is as far away from Miller's in terms of the tone and feel of that run but fans loved it and it won Waid an Eisner.
@DRisLegend200919 I agree. He hit jackpot with TDKR and Year One but the sequel to the former and All-Star Batman were just awful. Daredevil was just fantastic!
This man may be a racist, sexist, and a fascist, but goddamn it if he isn't probably the most important comic book writer there ever was. If it weren't for this guy, we'd probably only know Batman for his anti-shark spray.
***** I'd argue that, while all those other guys are just as talented as Miller (was), if not moreso, I'd argue that none of those guys would be half as popular as they are now if it weren't for the popularity of The Dark Knight Returns. He gave comics mass appeal, and made them be taken seriously as high art, for the first time in a long time. Also, I have to disagree with you that his whole career is defined by super heroes. What about Sin City?
***** I don't mean to say he inspired any of those guys, or influenced them. I mean to say the consumer, the buying masses, the general public, *bought* their comics because they didn't see comic books as only being for little kids anymore. The Dark Knight Returns is what started that, for most people back then.
Sin City movies are basically read-along books. I already knew the endings going into the movies. In fact, it was almost word for word. Boring…I used to like his stuff, now it’s just a childish joke.
So this was Frank before he turned into your racist uncle. And oh god, Frank lists what inspired hime to do the stupid love making scene in Dark Knight strikes again. And now I know why he turned Lex Luthor into a gorilla; he was ripping off Kingpin
@georgekostaras To be more accurate, Frank Miller is actually a Sectarianist (Sectarianism is discrimination against religions). But you're right that he is a bigot though.
@@johnivantaro6684 religions itself discriminate against others though especially Islam. Anyone Unironically defending islam is obviously oblivious to it's origins and it's tenets.
@@gabbar51ngh Not all religious individuals discriminate against other religions. And Islam just needs to be reformed. It worked for Judaism and Christianity, it can work for Islam.
I grew up with Miller's 80's DD run. Now I'm older and I see that his critics call him mysoginistic, a sadist and a pessimist with a dour outlook on life. I have to agree because all his tales weave a similar theme. He wanted to write a book about Batman fighting fundamentalist terrorists which was rightly denied because of Batman's huge worldwide fanbase. What an idiot.
"How many superhero's are known for what they CAN'T do?" That line pretty much sums up why DD is such a unique character.
Even though he didn't create Daredevil, Miller made it is own. I have every issue of Miller's run.
He's the reason why Daredevil is my 2nd favorite comic book Character, his story for DD/Murdok are some of the best I've ever read
+StarWarsFan 87 Wolverine, his orgin stories, other stories, and Old Man Logan stories are amazing
You get cool name
Just out of curiosity did you get them as they came out or did you collect them? I envy anybody that grew up in that era of comics.
@@samgilley3160 little bit of both. I remember purchasing the last half of his run and then later on in life I was able to collect all the issues going back to the spectacular Spider-Man issue that he did and then started up at Daredevil issue 158
This is the man that literally penned the greatest Marvel story of all time. As well as influencing the best Marvel show of all time.
I could stay all day hearing Frank Miller talk about DareDevil.
I have
This never gets old. I've watched it dozens of times over the years and it never ceases to fascinate me. Frank Miller, at his peak, was the best story teller the comic book medium has ever seen.
He was, but sometimes, age catches up even with the best, which was shown for Frank Miller in some of his later works.
@@BryonYoungblood Very true.
@@vincentmcgettigan7948 What about Moore, Gaiman or Jeph Loeb? They're up there with Miller in my opinion.
@@Holybatman3603 They def are, particularly Gaiman. All them guys are legends though. I'm just particularly very partial to 80's Frank Miller. Whether he was writing and drawing, or just writing, or just drawing, his 80's work for me was just masterful.
@@vincentmcgettigan7948 His 80's work was GOATED, i agree, i actually am a big fan of Ronin, one of his lesser known works, it's his best after Daredevil, i heavily disliked Sin City on the other hand, it felt forced and unoriginal.
This man Frank Miller is a genius.
This is the most poetic I've ever heard a writer get about a character. Not in love with all of his work but Miller was Daredevil's greatest writer.
Reading his old stuff makes you wonder wtf happened to miller ? Its like out of nowhere he makes a complete 180 in quality 😂
@@MarkPatJoeBillDinosaur001 what happened to him?
@@Yashone he let his gritty writing get to his head ... What was once edgy cool and dark is now Edgy trying hard and Cringe .... Bro just fell off fr ...
"Only a Catholic could be a vigilante and an attorney at the same time."
Miller's work on Daredevil is literally genius - a work of timeless genius
There will never be another Frank Miller in the world
no. but there's a brian bendis.
@@fcool AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Never
not counting his sin city works, the man hasn't written a good series since 1993 but, no one can never take away the fact that batman and daredevil would not be the characters they are today without him
He is shitting on his legacy
***** I would laugh my ass off and fall out of my seat if that happened in the film, but of course it would totally ruin the entire experience haha
Why not count Sin City? Frank is like one of those bands who had 7 great albums and then fell off.
I personally think that all of Sin City has still been good, which ended in 1999 but nothing else since he has started Sin City, 1993, has been any good. There is The Spirit movie but that wasn't good so much as so off the wall weird entertaining and also done in a similar tone and style as Sin City.
Short version, it wasn't bad so it didn't fit my point
The Martha Washington stories are very good, personally. I would also say Miller's recent story The Dark Knight: The Last Crusade is really good. I do understand though the disappointment with some of the later works. But that happens to many artists, George Lucas, Francis Ford Coppola, and Alan Moore's latter work is not the same as their earlier work.
I love Frank's facial expression when he says "Why?" The furrow, squinting, disappointment in his eyes. "Why?"
He is such a genius , you can see the madness in his eyes
Frank Miller's original run on Daredevil is my pick for #4 greatest comics of all time, behind Watchmen, the Dark Knight Returns, and Sandman.
While being longer is good, sometimes being able to tell a short concise story is stronger over all. That's my opinion.
Frank Miller is truly the best
Frank Miller is the greatest when he's telling a DareDevil story.
One of the greatest minds in Comic Book history. Miller's part of the documentary is a candidate for best section of the documentary.
"He used his belly to fight Spider-Man." lol
lol
Miller's Born Again story might just be the best one ever written by anyone.
A true epic for the ages.
A legend, Miller forever
Now we know where the inspiration for Daredevil season three came from, the whole idea getting rid of the costume and reverting back to his roots.
I am about to enter the world of Frank Miller’s Daredevil at 50 years of age.....
what he says about matt as a villain is so true. i was watching the new series and it got me thinking how both he and fisk had terrible childhood. the fact that one became a baddie and the other a vigilante could have almost been the other way around...or both would have turned out to be loonies. they don't make comics like they used to.
The difference is Matt had a family that loved him.
Well said.
@@jamretro1336 So true.
I could listen to Frank Miller talk all day. This guy is a genius.
But Black Widow was Daredevil's love interest before Miller ever became involved. Elektra didn't break new ground in that regard (having a girlfriend that could match him).
I think he meant more generally and maybe even referenced Karen Page for DD but yeah, Matt sure loved the bad girls
Best and most misunderstood comic character there is today...period!
I adore this interview. Tunnel vision.
this guy is legend
Miller is such a sick writer! I love his DD run! Strikes Again was shyit! Holy Terror was not his best but it was a quick one, he wanted it to be a Batman story but was refused so did a quick re-edit and...... We know what happened...
Humble dude! I love reading his stuff - it is great!
True artist and visionary, in my opinion.
It would been unique how Frank Miller would had translated Moon Knight, the Defenders, Hellstorm or even Nighthawk in vein to his brutalist pulpit take of Daredevil in the 1980s.
Miller redefined Daredevil and Batman. It’s evident when you watch the Batman movies directed by Burton, Nolan, Snyder, and Reeves. Season 1 of Netflix’ Daredevil is basically Miller’s Man Without Fear and season 3 is Miller’s Born Again.
Born Again! My favorite Daredevil series! Just the best!
The peak
One of the biggest problems of modern comics is we ran out of Franks.
WOOHOO! DAREDEVIL!!!
man i loved frank miller's daredevil when I was a kid...
grew up reading that real shit haha
Love Millers works
i can't believe this is the same dude that would write some of the most cliche edgy comics of all time. either he was controlled during his daredevil run or he was sent to sabotage batman lmao
Why do people do that? Troll. Who cares if people call him idiot or retaarded, usually people that do that have sad lifes. I don't care his politics, all care is his amazing work, Daredevil, Dark Knight, 300, Batman Year One, etc. I like the way he tells stories. He doesn't change the way I think about the world.
His voice has become so much softer if you watch any of his recent interviews
he is. my inspiration for. writhing
mad genius.....so terrific
All star batman and ROBIN the boy wonder, is my #1 favorite run which was unfinished 😔 it's the fun, 80s action feel and depiction of a true troubled and villainous look at a iconic character that hasn't been explored or truly appreciated! From a moral standpoint as well as judicial, the batman is a bad guy and straight out of his rabbit mind!😎
Frank Miller is one of my favourite writers and an absolute legend but his recent work...
So interesting. Love it.
I never noticed the symbolism when Bullseye kills Elektra.
he is in every word a brillliant master in the world of comics
This is fascinating to listen to
With all do respect to Frank Miller, he is just proof that how VERY VERY VERY VERY few people get Superman and how fewer still gets his relationship with Lois Lane.
Kesari Chakra ...Which is? Care to enlighten us?
Joe Stronger
The classic relationship of a God and human.
The rod to the lightning.
Lois Lane is such a strong Charecter Which only complements the Charecter of Superman.
Kesari Chakra Wouldn't that just agree with Frank's point? Except he and her are on a personal scale
you can make sense out of anything if you look hard enough...fact of the matter is superman is boring, even the creators thought so...if they didnt there wouldnt be kryptonite created
@Sketch Stevens At least they're equal in some way (emotionally, intellectually, and psychologically, in their case).
I have a feeling Frank Miller wouldn't dig the current Daredevil series
It was Miller’s writing and artistry that made me fall in love with Daredevil comics in the 80s. Then Ben Assfleck had to ruin my childhood hero 🤦🏻♂️
Daredevil directors cut the best Daredevil and comic accurate take of the character of all time. I like Charlie Cox but you do not see his radar sense through his eyes and Bullseye from the Daredevil show was awful. Colin Farrell Bullseye was comic accurate and a beast and Clarke Duncan did a better job than D'onforio
@@sting7789 The most retarded take i have ever seen in my life, wow dude
@@sting7789 cap
What's funny is that Frank Miller plays a character that gets killed in movies based off his works.
Daredevil. Frank Miller klaus janson gave us want we needed for the 1980s
Frank is the Sam Peckinpah of comics.
Yep
@termsofusepolice There is a reason people "destroyed the spirit and ideals" in the first place: By the late 70s the superhero was more than 40 years old and were unchanged for 20. Miller, among others, took the concept of a superhero and they took it apart to see how it works and learn new ways to use it. As they were, superheroes were stale and had been for years. Its only recently that the deconstruction has gotten stale and reconstruction has begun.
went down hill when he wrote holy terror, all star batman and robin ,and dark knight strike again
Read Daredevil Born Again by him, and maybe you'll understand what he meant by that
Imagine if Miller never took over Daredevil. No Tdkr, Year One... etc.
So... thank Daredevil for that...maybe? In a way?
100 percent correct. It was his success on the Datedevil book that put his name out there and made DC interested in him. So, thanks Matt..
He saved the book from cancellation.
I wish Frank Miller was still writing bolth BATMAN and DAREDEVIL. Cause bolth
Comic Book Co:s are missing their marks.
Batman is doing really good right now, I think Snyder is doing a great job. and I'm not sure about Daredevil I actually ordered vol. 1 of Mark Waid's series so I'll see whats that like in my opinion.
Tragick Hip-Hop I think Snyder is overrated. I loved his pre-new 52 work but his New 52 stuff is Grant Morrison's run for dumb people and Zero Year is overwritten and boring.
RomaNos dude Snyder is doing Batman pretty good justice the only reason the new 52 happened is because it was ment to introduce new comic book fans and be able to translate into movies don't believe me watch man of steel
Miller is taking a diarrea dump on his legacy
+zisoul Bendis, Brubaker and Waid's DD runs have been awesome. In fact, out of a lot of Marvel titles, DD has had the most consistently good runs (except Shadowland).
He's right about it being unrealistic for super-heroes to date normies, but his use of Superman was a horrible example, because that would be the one exception where it would be realistic.
People knock miller, but the truth is that his 80s output was enough. Can’t blame him for taking paychecks just to plaster his name on a book. The big two don’t offer any incentive for new characters, or creativity, and the independent scene is the only place to find the best books, however independent books normally don’t cover the superhero genre. Dc has remained more consistent than marvel since marvel went bankrupt, not to mention Stan Lee’s lack of leadership over the characters. Forgive me for going off topic, but I doubt miller is really worried about pumping out the next daredevil, dark knight returns because he don’t have to deliver that caliber of story simply because dc and marvel probably pay him more money than anyone in the industry just to use his name.
What happened to this Frank Miller?Is the Frank Miller today a Skrull pretending to be Frank Miller?
Either that or, my theory, that darn hat of his has been sucking out his brains
+Conspirator19 Or just ran out of ideas.
+ShadowofBatman I always thought that Miller was able to find the humanity in the character and even himself when he's writing Matt.
MrTechselect Yeah I mean even though he didn't create Daredevil you might as well say he did because all of what makes Daredevil great comes from his run.
ShadowofBatman Not all of it. Miller has was crucial to DD's history but DD's success isn't because of Miller. You also have to look into the other writers that took over. Out of any Marvel title DD had consistently great runs. Waid's run is as far away from Miller's in terms of the tone and feel of that run but fans loved it and it won Waid an Eisner.
Great writer, too bad he's lost his touch
People get old and lose the touch. Frank Miller did too I guess
Great artists usually tend to have a 10 year peak.
ANN NOCENTI SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED!
Bullseye is so cool
I'm the GODDAMN BATMAN
Wrong!
@termsofusepolice that's not a fair remark considering Miller actually hates how comics have abandoned their old ideals.
Frank, have you been at the Gaffer's home brew?
He should've stuck with comics.
FUCKING AMAZING WRITER!!
@termsofusepolice Couldn't have said it better.
Dudez say what you like about him,cuz this guy inspired tmnt
calm down man
@DRisLegend200919 I agree. He hit jackpot with TDKR and Year One but the sequel to the former and All-Star Batman were just awful.
Daredevil was just fantastic!
Too bad he's lost it
how? can you explain it
Yes, Birdman, explain
only a catholic can be an attorney and a vigilante at the same time wtf does that mean?
Doing one thing while also pursuing another. It's a joke about the history of the Catholic Church.
I think he was going for religious but ended up going with catholic.
9:10
Daredevil is the hero who is flawed not Spider-Man
Also DITTO on the "I've always thought it was stupid how superheroes always dated normal people" SAME ITS SO DUMB LIKE GET SOMEONE ON YOUR OWN LEVEL
This man may be a racist, sexist, and a fascist, but goddamn it if he isn't probably the most important comic book writer there ever was. If it weren't for this guy, we'd probably only know Batman for his anti-shark spray.
***** I'd argue that, while all those other guys are just as talented as Miller (was), if not moreso, I'd argue that none of those guys would be half as popular as they are now if it weren't for the popularity of The Dark Knight Returns. He gave comics mass appeal, and made them be taken seriously as high art, for the first time in a long time. Also, I have to disagree with you that his whole career is defined by super heroes. What about Sin City?
***** I don't mean to say he inspired any of those guys, or influenced them. I mean to say the consumer, the buying masses, the general public, *bought* their comics because they didn't see comic books as only being for little kids anymore. The Dark Knight Returns is what started that, for most people back then.
+Taylor Avalos Totally agree.
Dont exagerate.
Who is he racist towards?
Sin City movies are basically read-along books. I already knew the endings going into the movies. In fact, it was almost word for word. Boring…I used to like his stuff, now it’s just a childish joke.
This entire video is accidental ASMR.
this proves that frank miller does not get superman...fail.
So this was Frank before he turned into your racist uncle. And oh god, Frank lists what inspired hime to do the stupid love making scene in Dark Knight strikes again. And now I know why he turned Lex Luthor into a gorilla; he was ripping off Kingpin
georgekostaras
Who is he racist against? Muslims? Muslim isn't a race
@georgekostaras To be more accurate, Frank Miller is actually a Sectarianist (Sectarianism is discrimination against religions). But you're right that he is a bigot though.
@@johnivantaro6684 religions itself discriminate against others though especially Islam. Anyone Unironically defending islam is obviously oblivious to it's origins and it's tenets.
@@gabbar51ngh Not all religious individuals discriminate against other religions. And Islam just needs to be reformed. It worked for Judaism and Christianity, it can work for Islam.
@@GigaChadh976this
I grew up with Miller's 80's DD run. Now I'm older and I see that his critics call him mysoginistic, a sadist and a pessimist with a dour outlook on life. I have to agree because all his tales weave a similar theme. He wanted to write a book about Batman fighting fundamentalist terrorists which was rightly denied because of Batman's huge worldwide fanbase. What an idiot.