Eastonmade 12-22 vs All Wood Musclewood Log Splitter Wars
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- HWM Splitter Wars in a Snow Storm! Which is better? Eastonmade 12-22 Wood splitter or All Wood Musclewood. Head to head splitting, and a breakdown of how the machines are built so you can decide. This video will also show the pro's and con's of autocycle, the Eastonmade has Auto Cycle, but the All Wood does not. We are also running different wedges on each machine as they are the most similar we had to compare besides just running a single wedge or 4 way. We will be running an 8 way wedge on the All Wood and a 6 way on the Eastonmade Rachel and I make over1/3rd of Hickory in record time! A Michigan snow storm added to the challenge! With all of the quality splitters out there we decided to run a few of the more popular models against each other in this comparison video. We sourced similar rounds for each time we ran the splitters. The first round we split 15 rounds of Hickory. The second round, we split 20 rounds of mixed locust, maple, and oak. The splitters were run by different people in order to reduce/show the human element in the comparison. We broke down the final results in a chart. Each machine has pros and cons, you can see them both and see if one of these is right for you. We will be running other splitters in Splitter Wars in upcoming videos!
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I think this really shows the difference in operator technique, only because the All Wood doesn't have autocycle. It was a great comparison because it shows it's not always the machine, but the routine and ability of the operator. Rachel definitely did better with the Eastonmade, both in the lower design of the machine and the autocycle. Rachel is a go getter and without snow she would have likely been the all around winner! Great video!
Tim, THANK YOU!! Absolutely, this video doesn’t show the full abilities of these machines especially the All Wood without the autocycle, Rachel felt bad because she wasn’t able to keep up due to the round size and snow storm. These Splitter Wars videos aren’t a which is better but what is different and what could work best for you! We will be running more videos with these 2 splitters showing different scenarios!
They both look like great machines . Like you said the auto cycle is a contributing factor. I believe they are very close in time with the same operator . Great job showing them at war ! Hats off to Rachael she puts in 110 % !
Thanks Dave and it was a battle for sure!
Thanks Dave! Appreciate it❤
Really good comparison between these two units. I really think you can’t go wrong with either one of them. Great machines displayed by great people. Thanks HWM and family!
Jeff, I agree they are both great machines and great owners.
Thanks for watching Jeff! ❤
Great video and Ideas... Great review and fair comparison. They are both superb machines!! It comes down to personal need and budget. Otherwise you cannot go wrong with the quality of these. Canada vs US
Thank you, they are both great machines for sure.
Hi Heath and Rachel. That was a great comparison. It appears both machines are pretty comparable function wise, but the cost difference makes the Eastonmade the winner in my eyes. The only problem with this type of “one push through”comparison is that it still requires a lot of re-splits to end up with the final sellable firewood product. I’d like to see a demonstration where you had to split everything down to the typical 3”- 5” splits that most of us sell.
Thanks Dick, we will run one like that in the future. We’ll also do a wrap up of round 1 of HWM splitter Wars giving our thoughts. I am trying to set up an All Wood Locust Vs 12-22 Splitter Wars as they are comparable in price and should be another shoot out! I think it comes down to set up, and configuration of the machine etc.
Hi Dick! Thanks for watching😊
I agree. For me, the All Wood is so grossly overbuilt and heavy, that is beyond the point of diminishing returns. That is a 50+ ton machine spec'd to 25 tons. There's 1000 pounds of steel in that machine that isn't needed as it sits there. Overkill build, underwhelming performance for the weight and amount steel that you purchase. But, nothing on that machine will ever bend. Ever.
Thanks for the walk around on those 2 splitters. I watched it 2 times just to review specs again. I think you’re the only one that has ever done this!
You’re welcome, that was our plan, to help get as much information out there as we can to help people make a well informed decision.
All the things you do to keep us all happy❤ thank you!
Thanks Jeff, it was definitely fun but a lot of work! Best part is we’re building memories as a family.
It is enjoyable to watch all the different splitting machines and having Heath go over the differences between them before the wars begin. Having the view from above is really good so we can see how the competition is doing. Rachel, you look wonderful with the snowflake eyelashes!! Great job team!
Thanks Bill. We do our best and especially with the weather challenges in this video we didn’t do the splitters justice. We’ll run it again with different set ups. Appreciate the feedback!
Thanks Bill 😂❤
Excellent, detailed review. You went really deep into each machine.
She also had trouble with the Eastonmade - couldn't reach the rounds on the log lift and had to fumble with the lift.
For the money, and ease of use, the Eastonmade is the winner in my eyes, even though the allwood would be marginally faster if it had auto-return (but it was $4K more expensive). Reality is it's everything else that creates the bottlenecks - the loading, the removal etc - so I'd save the $ and buy the Eastonmade and invest in a conveyor.
Thanks for the feedback! We appreciate it as we try to do honest comparisons to help people out when making decisions on equipment. We definitely need to add a conveyor to our operation! Both machines are great and depending on your application either one may be best!
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors Never seen such great comparison videos anywhere else. You know your way around a splitter and point out details few would even think to consider. Impressed with the Allwood - totally agree it deserves far more recognition than the usual suspects, (particularly for professionals who beat their machines) and I can see why you bought one rather than blue and orange.
Not sure I understand why auto-return is a safety concern for your family? Afraid of getting caught on the return stroke? If anything, it allows people to stand away from the splitter while operating, rather having one hand on the controls all the time forcing you to stay with the machine.
Our initial thought was that with the speed of the machine if something went wrong it would be easier to stop the ram just having to hit the 1 lever vs having two to deal with. The other concern was if a piece of wood got behind the ram somehow on the auto return stroke. I’ve seen it happen to others and it goes back so fast if your arm gets caught it would be bad and it can also damage machine in that situation.
Looking back we are re thinking our decision and I have talked to Bobby from All Wood and we may be adding autocycle later.
no operator error, different work ability/technique, all three splitters in these challenges are solid, I sold my Wolfe Ridge solely on the size of the push block, wood seemed to peel out and not split completely, glad I stumbled upon Allwood.
I agree, if anything it shows the value of auto cycle. You won’t be disappointed with the All Wood!
Thanks for breaking down the differences in the machines. This gives me a better idea of which one would be right for me. I have 2265 Split-fire. Love it, but it is a single wedge only. I get big northwest wood. I am going to need a commercial splitter with a box wedge. I think an Estonmade will be my next splitter.
You’re welcome and for big woods a box wedge is definitely nice. Check out some of our previous videos where we run huge Oak rounds through both machines if you haven’t seen them yet.
Only problem with a box wedge is that it makes more of a mess with kindling
Yes it does but if you work a lot of big rounds I’d say it’s worth it!
@Hard Working Man, the ability to tow and being made in the USA makes me want the All-Wood. I am interested in knowing which is your favorite. The All-Wood I want, the Eastenmade I need.
Also the All Wood Hickory has a similar wedge system to the Eastonmade including the box wedge ability. The towability is definitely nice. We took our All Wood on a 20 hour road trip a few weeks ago. Both great machines! We’ll break down our thoughts in a future video when we wrap up round 1 of HWM splitter wars.
Great job Rachel, I was impressed. You were at a disadvantage with the All Wood splitter, my opinion was you were the WINNER!!. Love your channel and videos.
Rachel is a rock star for sure. We will soon have autocycle on our All Wood as well as it has proved to be quite valuable!
Another great video! What can I say Eastonmade makes the best firewood equipment my opinion not just speed but on how well its built right down to the details for the user everything is thought about. I will say though that Muscle Wood is a great machine and no one would go wrong with purchasing one. Cheers you guys 👌🏻🔥🇨🇦
Both the Eastonmade and All Wood are top notch. We will be doing more comparison videos with the two! We do our best with these videos but until someone runs these machines in person you can’t really appreciate them!
Heath and Rachel, that was a very fair shootout. You definitely put a lot of thought and effort into setting this up. Great video and Rachel, you are one tough lady!
Thanks Doug and yes she is! She’s a touch competitive too just in case you couldn’t tell lol.
Thanks Doug❤
Wish I could have started out with a professional splitter in my 20s. That all wood is a total beast and would buy it if I had a big operation. I never have seen a splitter more heavily built. As a Michigander I’m proud someone in this state is producing this amazing product
Brian, The Eastonmade is built heavy, but the All Wood is built heavier than any other splitter I’ve e seen in person. Both solid machines!
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors That thing is heavier than the one I built for myself. I'd still like to see some lube on the push plate slide. Like they say, grease is cheaper than steel!.
@@heymakerphd1982 Bobby uses ar400 steel and his thought is that grease holds dirt and actually wears the surface quicker. I know I run the Eastonmade 12-22 with grease and the All Wood without. However I don’t process enough right now to wear either of them out.
Rachel hats off to you! Working in the snow, cold, wet. Not many girls would be that devoted! Thanks for the best episode yet!
Thanks Alex! The camera doesn’t show just how fast and hard the snow was coming down. It was a fun one to shoot, especially with the boys home from school and being there with us.
It's really cool that you made this video in a blizzard. Heath and Rachel, you did an amazing job of filming and explaining the specs on each machine. Bobby and Andrew should feature those clips on their channels and in their advertising media. You two are so natural on camera. In my opinion, you are headed for stardom! Cheers, and have a great week!
Thank you so much for the kind words. Ever since we started being more ourselves on camera it’s been more fun and much better content. Still room for improvement but we’ll keep striving to improve!
Assuming reliability and customer service are equal the Eastonmade was marginally slower and about 2/3 the cost. Pretty easy decision for me if I was to purchase one tomorrow. Great comparison.
Thanks, they are both great units from great companies with great owners. Hoping we can add autocycle to our All Wood and run this challenge again as the autocycle played an important role in how this comparison played out. Especially when Rachel was handling the big heavy snow covered rounds.
Great job showing how these two machines work
Thanks Tommy! We did our best and had fun.
Nicely done. Both splitters did great.
Thanks and yes yes they did!
I believe both machines shows the users technics helps a lot . Rachel done an outstanding job also !!
Thanks Del! I felt like I competed in a CrossFit game event after that!
I bet you did !!!
Thanks Del, and features and technique definitely played a role!
WOW GUYS! That was a heck of a shootout!!! The All Wood is a BEAST. But, with that machine as heavy and extremely overbuilt as it is, why do they only spec it to 25 tons? That thing should be spec'd to 40+ tons. It really struggled with some of those rounds and the 8 way wedge. But, you'll never bend anything on it. Nothing too strong ever broke!
Thanks for introducing the All Wood... I've never heard of this company until this video. More machines to consider now! Thanks for all that you guys are doing!!!
You are welcome and it was a lot of fun to make. Check out some of my other videos where we run huge oak and ash rounds through a 6 way etc. the times it slowed a little was with knotty Hickory through a custom built small split 8 way. He makes machines with more tonnage too. I think tonnage ratings can be deceiving as all manufacturers do it differently and it’s not regulated. We will be running more splitter wars with the All Wood in the next few weeks. Thanks for checking it out and commenting!
Everything you guys do is fantastic
Thank you Dale!
Thank you Dale, we do our best! We know we won’t please everyone but we just strive to be honest, educational, and entertaining.
For the price, that eastonmade is a tank. I would really like to buy the eastonmade axis for my operation! Thanks for the videos.
It is absolutely a well built machine. The All Wood is as well and all of them are built the same even his Maple series which I believe is under $9k. Two great well built brands with great owners!
Rachel & Heath...Great video comparing two commercial grade splitters. When you figure in the cost difference of an All Wood Musclewood at $21,000 without auto-return versus an Eastonmade 12-22 at $11,500 with auto-return I am not sure there is really a choice. Musclewood has a diesel but you can put new Hondas/Vanguards on every ten years for about forty years for the cost of a single diesel! Plus you don't have to worry about a radiator, anti-freeze, etc.
The All Woods come standard with auto cycle. We got ours without it but may see if we can get it added. Also the All Wood Locust is similar in price with the 12-22 and would be a shoot out in production. I am trying to set up a splitter wars with the Locust and the 12-22! The new Diesel Musclewood has a sub 3 second full auto cycle so it would compare to the Eastonmade 24 or 37D machine. Both are great machines though!
Thanks for the compliment!
It’s hard to have head to head, size of logs, the operator makes it not accurate. That was a great video of splitting. At this point I feel whichever splitter fits you personally with its size, lever location , log lift, etc would be great. Plus long term splitting and having a split that fits you personally would have a big impact on all day splitting.👏🏻👍🏻. Great job and love the snow effect.
Larry, absolutely, we tried to convey that in the video. After filming we realized we’ll need 2 people to run these machines efficiently in a head to head that just shows machine vs machine. We’re doing the best with what we have and it was a lot of work but a lot of fun. More to come!
Hard Working Man AND Hard Working Woman good job both of you.
The beem on the splitter I built weighs 48 lb per foot, you don't move it by hand either.
6 inch cylinder 26 inch stroke 22 gal. per minute pump (I wish I had went with 28 gal.)
42.3 ton splitting force if I remember correctly.
It will either split it or cut it.
I've never heard the pump go to the high pressure low volume mode.
Thank you! Sounds like an absolute beast of a machine!
You two was definitely getting it done
Thanks David, we definitely had to hustle!!
Thanks David!
Hi Heath - it's Big Rodders in Ireland. Very interesting & entertaining video but only relevant for choice making to a minority of viewers as few can justify expenditure at that level from a financial viewpoint. It's not just the purchase price but all the other inventory required to run them. At one stage I was producing 200 cords of wood yearly using a commercial vertical splitter costing less than $4k. Also, processor speed time is only one factor in the overall operation. I ran a splitter that was either PTO or electric driven. While the electric was slower I was amazed to discover that my 6 hour shifts produced the same volume of stacked splits either way as other processes such as bucking and stacking were involved. For my money I would get the EM and a SuperSplit for the same outlay as the AW. Cheers!
These machine’s definitely fly through the wood! I am on the hunt for a re splitter, and a vertical splitter as I want to run and compare as many as I can! I’ll also be running some Splitter Wars with box store splitters trying to cover as many price points as I can!
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors Big Rodders again. I imagine you are aware of Joe in Ohio Wood Burners. His empire started with a Super Splitter and he still rates it very highly. I consider it is the finest resplitter out there - it's relatively cheap to buy and run, it's partucularly fast, well proven and reliable plus it's very manoeuvrable. The factory doesn't export to Europe so it can only remain a dream for me.
Yes I am. Hopefully I can find one eventually.
Man that Allwood made the EM look slow which was unusual. Auto cycle on the Allwood would be nice but it will be interesting to see how he does it. Not sure if anyone makes a AC valve that can handle that much flow. That’s the reason I went with 2 AC valves on my splitter. I’m moving 56gpm with 36hp. On a 24” stroke I get @ 3.3 sec cycle with a 5” cylinder. Full 30” stroke is 4.5 sec.
Also I do like how Allwood uses a secondary circuit to control lift and wedge. None of that ridiculous engine laboring when lowering an empty log lift!🤦♂️
Garry, sounds like you have an awesome machine. I will say both Bobby and Andrew know their stuff. I wouldn’t be surprised with what either of them put out here in the near future. I’d love to see the 24D and 37D in person as well.
This has really helped
Me to decide…I need one of each 😂.
Then I can have splitters wars at my house and the winner is a warm house!
Mathew, truly that’s the only way to go!! Two great machines!!
I think that challenges are fun and informable. But they can also create an unsafe working narrative. I think that speed isn't as much of a priority as safe. The difference in time was really negligible. Both machines work very well for the user. I thought when I saw the promo picture that we were going to see Rachel's twin.😊
Mark, this is true. We definitely don’t run them like this except for these challenges to show how they stack up and for some entertainment. We try to be careful but it definitely decreases the safety factor.
The cradle on the Eastonmade makes all the difference.
The cradle is nice for the rounds, it takes a little getting used to for re splits but still works well.
Both great machines. Definitely a large investment regardless of machine.
Robert they are both great machines in my opinion!
That was an awesome splitter war challenge. It was well worth the weight good job guys and gal
Thanks Jay, the snow storm added a twist but it was fun.
i had an auto load,, split, and stack splitter, but then they grew up and moved away
Robert I still have a few but they’re so busy with sports and school their production has decreased lol.
Another awsome video! Well done!
Thank you Todd.
Wow those are big splitters. Great video guys.
Thanks Jason, it was fun!
Great video!👍🏻
Thanks James!
Great job guys !!! Rachel worked her butt off !! I bet you had a cocktail after that !!
😂😂thanks Peter! I had a hot epsom salt bath after that!
Thanks Peter it was a lot of work but we had fun.
You two are great and love your videos! Very helpful and informative, might have to do a splitter upgrade sometime soon.
Thank you Larry, we’ll have more comparisons coming soon.
The all wood is faster than I thought. I like the open cradle design better on the eastonmade. For the cost I'm still an eastonmade man. The box wedge with the pull back arm almost never comes off.
The All Wood is definitely fast! I definitely want to see one of the All Wood Hickory machines and how the box wedge and pull back arm works on that model. We don’t do a lot of large rounds but if we did I don’t think I’d take the box wedge off either. Both top notch machines and wonders imo.
Hi, Thanks for the videos. I own an Eastonmade 12-22 and a SuperSplit, that I converted to electric operation. I am very happy with both. I think the SuperSplit is a fantastic re-splitter, as it is wicked fast. After 50 years of cutting and splitting the only thing I wore out is my back. Unfortunately that cannot be replaced. :-(( I may have told you before, but if not, there are tools to prevent the latter. They are: Hookeroon, Pickeroon and Wood Pike. They are inexpensive. Please consider all three. If you need details let me know. Stay safe! Shalom/gw
Thanks, yeah we have them and use them a lot. Just didn’t for the Splitter Wars videos as we are trying to keep up with these machines. I just searched for a super split on marketplace but didn’t find any. I’ll keep looking!
The only thing I wish the allwood would have is longer "tines" on the wedge so that you don't have to worry about the peices coming off weird or having to.pull apart some of the stringy stuff
I’m curious what the design of the Hickory series wedges look like.
It looks to me like these machines are close to being equal so with said it comes down to a personal choice.
Which one fits your hands best
Great video
Absolutely! We’ll said.
I knew nothing about the All Wood until now. This was fun to watch! Both are impressive machines. I'm impressed by rachel chucking those hickory logs like that. That is some dense wood!
I'm curious about the All Wood log lift and clearance of the tire. I make a lot of 22" logs, and it looks like it would be close to hitting the back tire with a log that long. Any info on that?
Obviously the autocycle is a great feature, and I'm guessing where it really shines is with the box wedge. It will take longer to split the wood, but exposing more grain dries wood faster, and nothing stacks better than square logs.
Thanks for the video! Be safe.
Ryan, the All Wood is an impressive machine for sure! The Hickory series is available with a box wedge, this model wasn’t available when I bought my Muscle Wood or I may have gone that route. We are looking into upgrading our Muscle Wood to full auto cycle as we now wish we would have gone that route from the beginning. As far as the log lift goes we have not run any 22” rounds but we did run a big Maple round today that was 19” and it worked fine, it will be in our next video. I will see if I have a 22” round to try next time we are out splitting. If you have any other questions please let me know.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors that's awesome. Thanks. I'm not taking about diameter, I just cut about 15-20 cords a year at 22" long. Just curious how that would fit clearing the tire and the wedge at the same time.
Yeah, I’ll find one and run it and let you know.
For the money compare an Eastonmade 24D to the All Wood Muscle That would be interesting Thanks for the great comparisons
Alli, I’d love to! If I ever get a chance I will for sure!
As far as results go the 2 are so incredibly similar. The All Wood seemed to slow down more when it bogged down compared to the Eastonmade but that may have been due to the 8 way versus the 6 way. When running empty the All Wood has the 12-22 by a whisker. I'd love it if you could get hold of either some Aussie redgum which is common'ish in California or some bluegum which is the same in Florida.
Thanks Alan, they are both fast! To be fair the times the All Wood slowed it was Hickory with multiple knots going through a custom small split 8 way. We will be running this again with 4 way wedges and 2 people per machine which will reduce the operator element. It was definitely a challenge for Rachel to run the higher working height, non auto cycle All Wood in the snowstorm with these big heavy rounds. Didn’t really do it justice. More Splitter Wars to come.
Fantastic video! But can you imagine running either one of those splitters at that pace for one day? Omg.
At that pace would be taxing for sure. But if you’ve watched our videos with the All Wood table you’ll see how big of an impact that can have on productivity and saving your back! If you had a bucket to load piles of rounds and an elevator you could run pretty hard all day!
Damn girl! Beast mode engaged!! I still think Eastonmade for the win...3 grand cheaper and only saving about 3 seconds total and Eastonmade's can change out wedges with little effort. Both are heavy duty splitters but when I looked at All-Wood splitters I didnt see where you could change out a standard wedge to a box wedge, looked like you needed 2 machines.
For sure! Those rounds were heavy and slippery! Both awesome machines for sure! The All Wood Hickory has the interchangeable wedges and box wedge all in one platform. I don’t think you can go wrong with either, all depends on preferences and uses, towability, height, design, etc.
Thank you❤
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors Oh ok I didnt see that about the interchangeable wedges. This is why a good web site is so important. I looked a few times but never saw anything about a interchangeable box wedge or that might have changed things.
It looks like the machine sticks out quite a bit from your five foot wide.
If you are building a shed for this splitter make your shed more than five feet wide.
With the lift all the way up it is fairly wide. We usually store it in the garage.
Good wood splitting weather 😅
Yeah right lol! We were soaked!
The difference between a man and a woman, great video the operator makes all the difference.
Definitely made a difference in this one.
Sure looks like the Easton Made is a great bargain for the price. If it keeps up with splitters that cost that much.
Dan the 12-22 is a nice machine for sure. I may get a chance to put it up against an All Wood Locust in a future video which are close in cost and should be a shoot out.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoorscan take mine for a test run when it’s finished!
My bet is on allwood!
All I will say is it was a fun winter splitting battle.
I have a 2019 12-22. It had the short tongue also. When you pulled it from the engine end tongue was too short if you turned hard with a 4 wheeler you could hit motor on 4 wheeler. I mentioned it to Andrew must be he changed it.
I wondered if it changed or was altered.
hi there good show in the snow .now put r on the same splitter but with the table and see if she makes her time faster than you on the other splitter john
Thanks John, we are definitely going to run that coming up. Splitter Wars Table vs No Table!
Be nice to know the specs on the hydraulic return hose sizes on the split cylinder and the flow rates of the fluid filters
Great looking unit
Thanks Kevin!
Awesome video hwm that was the best splitter wars Rachel you killed . I think you all need to do a convare wars lol.
Thanks Chris ❤
Chris I’d love to! I need a conveyor for sure! Thank you and Rachel is a rockstar for sure!
Does the muscle wood only have four bolts to hold down the push plate? Seems the push plate in general is not as well reinforced compared to the eastonmade. Also the wedge support is just odd. The log lift lifts scary high, I imagine a 400# round lifted to full height will fly off because the angle is so high. Definitely a fast splitter and not trying to beat it up just some things popped out to me.
The push plate is built to match the angled cradle on the splitter and is held by 6 bolts. I believe the wear surface and plates are ar400 steel which also makes a difference. As far as the wedge goes it is made from one piece of ar400 I believe steel that is built in between the two frame rails and 1-2” thick depending on where you measure it. Now I’m not an All Wood rep or expert so I could be wrong on some stuff just sharing what I remember from talking to Bobby. As far as the lift goes I imagine if you raised a huge round to full height rapidly it wouldn’t be fun. However they way it’s designed it is the smoothest and most easily controllable lift I’ve run. It has a separate pump to operate it. Most splitters lifts run off the main hydraulic pump with restricted flow and are not nearly as smooth or controllable if that makes sense. I’d definitely like to look at the All Wood Hickory series machine as that has a wedge system similar to Eastonmade I believe. I am not sponsored by any log splitter company as of now and am just sharing what I know. Both Bobby and Andrew have been great to work with and both know their stuff. Bobby has been building splitters for 15 years so I trust his design and believe me when I say this thing is built to last. IMO both machines will last a long long time structurally and are two of the heaviest duty brands I’ve seen.
So are you able to pick which one you like better? Thanks for braving the weather !
We will do a wrap up Splitter Wars after we run a few more and give our opinions, likes, dislikes, etc. For now we are just trying to show how they operate and the comparisons of machines without bias.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors Great series of videos !!!
Thank you!
Cool machines. So glad I like small splits and only split 20 face cord a year. So I know I will never ever need machines that expensive lol
But Stan you could have it all done in one day then have 364 days to relax!
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors using that theory lol please explain to Rachel that the kitchen will be done like tomorrow because you have the time saved from the splitters and her help on them lol
@@stannelson2582 but remodeling isn’t fun lol.
@@stannelson2582 Yes, Heath, please explain
@rachelpostma I already did, remodeling isn’t fun. Splitter wars in a snow storm is fun! 🤷♂️
Great planning and execution of a fair contest. Owning either one would be nice. Owning two and I would need a toy box to store both of them . Valentine's Day is coming up Rachel if you haven't gotten Heath a gift yet.🤔🤔🤔
Jimbo I like the way you think, pole barn it is 😂😂
Nyuknyuknyuk 🤣🤣🤣
If he builds a pole barn before my kitchen I’m moving out 😂😂
LMAO My bff builds kitchens AND storage units. Want his number?
@rachelpostma I’m putting a new kitchen in the pole barn! It’s going to be awesome!
Both excellent machines for production, would you consider changing the 6 way wedge for the 4 way on the 12-22, would you change the 8 way wedge for the 4 way wedge on the muscle log splitter for re splits, would you do the comparison for the EastonMade Axis vs SplitForce 13/20T what are thoughts, both of you deserve a warm drink,
I will probably run the 4 way on both machines in a future video with 2 operators per machine to show their full potential so it’s not affected by operator. I’d love to compare the Axis and SplitForce as a vertical splitter were high on my list before I found the All Wood and then picked up the 12-22 when I was searching.
Thank you for showing these machines. I’m thinking about getting a machine and have been thinking about the ones you showed nad those uyou mentioned. Seeing how you have suede all of them I wonder which you would purchase if you had to choose one AND why you would choose the one you said in the answer? Thank you.
Hello, thanks for watching. Honestly we have been very happy with the All Wood and the Eastonmade! You can’t go wrong with either in my opinion. It basically comes down to what you prefer and what fits your needs. We will be doing a video in the future showing what we like and prefer from model to model. A few key things I feel are important are build quality, working height, towability, ease to move, reliability, customer support, lift, log cradle, wedge system, etc. between the All Wood and the Eastonmade they both have their own slight advantages. These 2 manufacturers have been top of the class from what I’ve seen so far.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors thanks for the input. I’ll keep up with your videos, they are enjoyable.
Thanks!
Rachel does a good job running the camera lol
Thanks Terry 😂
She’s an expert!
Those 2 splitter companies should be praising u guys for the free advertisement lol
Terry, both Bobby and Andrew have been great and their machines speak for themselves.
So how much wood do you have to split to save $25 grand? If you bought processed wood vs unprocessed?
Chuck, a lot lol. I will eventually sell one of these splitters. The good news is these splitters are investments and hold or even go up in value. For example I bought the Eastonmade 12-22 used. The people I bought it from ran it for over 2 years and put 400 hours on it making hundreds of cords of wood which they sold. I then bought the splitter from them for almost what they bought it for so they essentially made 10s of thousands of dollars for a couple thousand dollars.
Now let’s just say hypothetically speaking. I source most of my wood for free. Conservatively I can split 1.25 cord per hour which is quite low for what I could actually do. I get over $400/cord so we’ll say I can split $400/hour now I know this is just splitting time. So I can pay for both of these splitters in less than 80 hours worth of splitting or 2 basic work weeks. I then also control quality etc. purely hypothetical but they are an investment not an expense imo.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors Now i play the wood game and free does not exist. And i know iron is an investment. But unless you live in a tool box that investment can go south pretty easy. What i was looking for was how many cords to pay for it. Say 50 a cord. 25g would be 500 cord. So 10 cord a year for 50 years. Or 5 cord for 100 years. If you bought tree length and processed it then broke down the numbers vs buying it all done. What number would you give to splitting. You have handling cutting handling splitting and handling at least twice more.
Chuck, absolutely. I’ll see what I can figure out. A big thing for me was saving time! I used to spend an hour to split 1/3rd of a cord. Now I can to it in about 8 minutes! I have a very busy life! I use a lot of the time saved working other side hustles such as K9 deer tracking, habitat work such as installing food plots etc. so that is also a factor. I plan on doing a video in the future about is it worth it to buy a commercial splitter and break all of this down. I’ll try to answer your question the best I can in that video!
Your Allwood splitter has to short of wings on that moving wedge. They need to make them longer like the Eastonmade.. Plus You can't mount a box wedge on that Allwood you have and the Allwood box wedge I seen on their website is the cheapest made box wedge I have ever seen. They need to make their box wedge moralize Eastonmade... They make it so cheap it looks like it would break if you tried to push really bad wood through it.. I would never buy the Allwood for that reason... Anyways the best boxwood splitter is the Raptor. Way way better then both those machines you have..
The wings could be a little longer but it is rarely an issue. As far as the All Wood box wedge goes I have never seen one in person but I can say that Bobby has been building splitters for almost 15 years and he does not skimp on the builds of everything I have seen. The Hickory series has a similar wedge system to the Eastonmade but I am not sure how long the wings are on that either. The Eastonmade splitters are also well built machines. I have not seen a Raptor box wedge machine in person either but they do look nice.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors The box wedge AllWood makes is crap. I watched a few videos on CZcams about it and reviews.. Thy all say the same thing. It's not built right and it's cheaply made.. Woodmizer makes a better box wedge splitter then Allwood does.. You make like that brand but I won't be buying that brand.. Their is many writing bad reviews about them.. I love that table they make that you helped them design
Hi,guess ,that easton made 1222 for Rachel is better ,Did you both do a good job
Peter, in this situation absolutely. However usually when working bigger rounds we’d use our table or the log lifts!
Awesome
Thanks Hank!
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors sorry didn’t get to watch it at 1. Was out cutting and splitting fire wood.
No worries Hank. We were sitting at a wrestling tournament all day! Gotta get done what we can when we can. Appreciate the support and comments!
Maybe do a spreadsheet with the specs. Both amazing splitters.
Steve we have the splitting stats in a graphic or are you talking about the Machine Specs? We will be running more splitter wars videos.
@Hard Working Man , intro info went through a lot of dimensions. Real story was like you said with the results of the splitting. Can't wait on more side by side splitting.
Thanks Steve. I’ll see what I can do in future does.
Be nice to know the specs on the hydraulic return hose sizes and the flow rates of the fluid filters
Jon, I’ll see what I can find out but I’m definitely not a hydraulics expert.
I ask because I’ve noticed that Rugged made 728 and 737 has what looks like a 1/2” return line and the filter has a reducer in it really restricting the fluid movement especially on splitter piston return.
I loved seeing the dual pump on the musclewood. That’s no-nonsense building right there.
Jon, I know the lines are big! I’ll see if they have diameters on them.
Pretty even match on production.
Though the allwood has over 20hp and the Eastonmade only has 13hp. Not very close really. But the Eastonmade still out preformed.
It was a good match up. We ran the 8 way on the All Wood which slowed it down a bit more than a 6 way would have, the auto cycle definitely played a role, as did the size of rounds and the weather. Rachel really struggled to keep up with the All Wood without the auto cycle having to wait for it to cycle down then hit the return lever before going for the next round. We will run this head to head again with 2 people per machine and both running the 4 way wedge. Definitely two of the heaviest built splitters I’ve seen and both have great owners!
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors they both look to be rugged enough. But the All Wood still has that homemade appearance. Not that homemade is bad, I mean who doesn’t like homemade cookies. Here is a link to a video of me and Daddy running Orange Crush. My father hand built it in our shop. It has a underperforming 22gpm pump and a 12hp Honda engine, it has a 5” bore cylinder, and runs the same cheap garbage Prince auto cycle valve as some of the big names in the commercial splitter world.
My father built this as a prototype and used off the shelf components. But a production model would be built using a better valve set up and a better cylinder.
Like the allwood he used exotic steel alloys that shouldn’t wear out anytime soon. But he already knows some changes that need to be made. Just saying.
czcams.com/video/Nxez5yvKbKg/video.html
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Thanks Ben.
Heath what do you weigh? You look super athletic?
He is an athletic specimen for sure.
It’s not the weight it’s the body composition lol.
Amazing machines. (Please use abundance of caution). God[Bible] Bless.
Thanks Tony, and these machine’s definitely demand respect!
$5000 more did not get ya much!
Mark, in all actuality it wasn’t $5k more as I had an extra $1k wedge added to my order but there are differences in build design, features, etc. but both are awesome machines in my opinion! The autocycle is a difference maker too. I am trying to set up a Splitter Wars with an All Wood Locust and the 12-22 which are comparably priced machines and should be a battle!
I would sale My powersplit from powersplit international it was custom built with thicker metal and extra bracing I'm sale,ing because I'm purchase,ing a Prosser soon single way wedge and a 4 way wedge.13k it's a vertical like the Easton axis foot pedal operation and has a lift table.the splitter ram is bigger than stock as well.
Curious where you are located? I seriously doubt I can get permission right now but doesn’t hurt to ask.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors NW Arkansas top right corner
That’s a hike! Pretty sure I know the answer right now but I’ll check!
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors lol no hurry kitchen first lol lol.
Ah yes the kitchen lol.
That was a unfair test,try it with a easternmade 22-28
Thomas, we run what we can get our hands on. We said it wasn’t apple to apples but it shows what each machine can do and they flat out make firewood! I’d run all of the major splitters with their competitions equivalent of I could but I do what I can with what’s available.
blizzard? hardly
Thanks for watching.
You’re that guy aren’t ya?
that guy that knows what a blizzard is and what a blizzard ain't, yep. that weren't no blizzard.
I don't think is a fair comparison ,man against woman . Your wife should be Commently for the work done.
Jessie, the heavy rounds and snow storm definitely added to the challenge. Rachel is a gamer for sure! We will be doing another Splitter Wars with the Eastonmade and All Wood with 2 people feeding each machine so it reduces the human element and shows why these machines are truly capable of. Rachel was definitely at a disadvantage in this one.
Also a side note your COMPARING THE ALL WOOD with a 22 hp mptor twin vs a single cylinder 12 hp on the EASTONMADE try comparing a Eastonmade 22-28 with the 22 hp against the all wood it would be game over says alot for the 12-22 which is a great splitter
We can only compare what we have access too. These splitters are definitely different but both amazing splitters. I’d love to add a 22-28 to splitter wars. When you say it would be be game over for the All Wood against the 22-28 is have to disagree. The Muscle Wood is a 25 ton splitter with a 4 second cycle time, the 22-28 is a higher tonnage splitter with a 7 second cycle time. So again two different machines. The comparison we did definitely shows that the 12-22 is a great machine as is the All Wood. To be honest we’ve been nothing but impressed by both machines. Both have slight pros and cons but both are definitely well built hi performance machines!