Police: Madeline Soto Sexually Abused for Years | Closing Arguments with Vinnie Politan
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- Police say 13-year-old Madeline Soto could have been sexually abused for years before she was found murdered in Florida. In a newly-obtained affidavit, detectives say prime suspect Stephan Sterns had disturbing images of abuse from when Soto was 11 years old.
00:00 Madeline Soto Background
02:15 Stephan Sterns Arrest Affidavit
04:06 Madeline Soto: Timeline of Events
17:33 Did Madeline Soto's Mom Know Anything?
26:43 TN v Robin Howington
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00:00 Madeline Soto Background
02:15 Stephan Sterns Arrest Affidavit
04:06 Madeline Soto: Timeline of Events
17:33 Did Madeline Soto's Mom Know Anything?
26:43 TN v Robin Howington
#CourtTV - Madeline Soto Murder Case
MORE HERE: www.courttv.com/news/police-stephan-sterns-sexually-abused-madeline-soto-for-years/?
Can we stop with the body language analysis stuff? It's hogwash psuedoscience and cheapens your journalistic integrity. I know you need filler for some segments and it's entertaining, but surely we can find some other content.
So the abuse happened for years, and apparently, they were broken up, also. Other sites have interviews with ex friends who confirm he was into young girls, and addicted to porn....he worked at Disney, once but was no longer working. Noone has mentioned the possibility of a CP RING. Would explain mother covering for him, if she needed money.
I'm sorry but that woman knows nothing about CSA I've counselled many many adults that never told any adults about the abuse happening to them under the same roof as the mother by the father or step parent I've spoken to mums who have never had an idea that their child is being abused under their own roof!!!
@@carolinanavarro9076PLEASE don't say child porn it's child abuse images. Children can't consent to pictures and videos adults can and that's pornography
Completely unnecessary to describe what the photos of the victim were of. Completely gratuitous.
This female psychiatrist should not say: "They had sex." She was raped. That is not called sex.
I’m surprised to hear a psychiatrist saying that.
I know right?! She can't consent! Hes an idiot for saying that. I hope he changes his vocabulary!!! It's rape🤬
I was just as shocked to hear that… 👀 it makes it sound like some consensual relationship between adults
It was her not him. Absolutely disgusting, yes. I am shocked too, that she does not get that right as a psyiachtrist. 💀
Exactly
Mind Your language lady, they were not having "sex" as you put it; the CHILD was being sexually abused!!... How dare you dishonour her like that.
Yeah. That was ridiculous 😡
@@j4kgang921 the little girl was only 12 so no matter how you try to word it in CAPITAL LETTERS they were not having sex the LITTLE GIRL WAS BEING SEXUALLY ABUSED 😠
@@j4kgang921you out of your mind!? So, it matters whether she was screaming and fighting back, or laying there quietly the whole time?! Are you kidding me?! She was a CHILD!! AND THAT IS HER DAUGHTER! She should be screaming at the top of her lungs that he _R@PED_ her baby girl! That's the ONLY thing that should be coming out of her mouth. My god, people like you terrify me.
Democrats. Sugar coating everything and victim blaming
@@j4kgang921 WTF...That little girl was raped amongst other things. She didn’t have sex with that monster she was a victim.....WORDS MATTER Lady!
Please do not ever use Dr Liberman again. To say that child was having sex is sickening.
Shame of this so called doctor!
Agreed.... I also completely disagree with her analysis of their body language. The Mom doesn't appear upset to me at all. The BF had the sad voice and was wiping his eyes but if you zoom in, there is not a single tear showing in his eyes. Completely fake!
You would think that a "professional" would see that immediately.
She victim shames and uses abusive language… dangerously out of touch.
He is a freemason I bet my life
Stop putting men before your own children! This is so upsetting!
If they are underage then it is NEVER called sex. It's rape period
Exactly ...and she was only just 13 !!! 😥
If it's rape, it should never be called sex no matter the age of the victim. But to say this about a thirteen year old girl who was a victim of sexual assault from the time she was eleven years old is disgusting. It's vile and dehumanising and invalidating.
@@TiffWafflesI’ll bet it started before then, that’s just when he recorded it from on that particular phone..
@@jesclifford88 💯
Children cannot consent!
Im soooo sick of these " live in boyfriends sexually abusing and murdering these kids " When are the Mother's going to be Charged with their Responsibility of Keeping their kids safe ???
And fathers. That's too common too unfortunately
everything on his Reddit....Sustinet ... suggests he made SURE he could be around KIDS as much as possible.
@catsanctuary5604 Exactly! Sacrificing the well being and safety of her kid for some roll over penis. She needs to be charged immediately. It's no money that would allow me to expose my kids to that.
That child has 2 parents.. and there are plenty of step monsters killing and abusing their step children.
I agree. These mothers should be charged too. But the District Attorneys always give these women immunity to testify. The mother knew, she should be charged
As a victim myself of SA you could see it in her eyes. This little girls was hurting and wanted someone to save her 😭
Exactly, where was her biological father? He married another woman three months after Maddie was born. I wonder if there are any court records of him trying to get custody of Maddie.
@@ginajoseph8776 at this point I haven’t heard anything from the bio dad in the news. This girl was failed by everyone in her family. Her face screams sadness, her eyes 🥺 you could see so much in her eyes 💔
he will get death penalty if lawyers do their jobs
"My child is missing... let me call my criminal defense attorney." Yeah, no. What terrible advice. Glad Vinnie called this guest out on her despicable suggestion.
Umm excuse me, is that lady out of her mind?!?? “They had sex!” SHE WAS RAPED! This poor child was raped! For her to refer to the act as sex is vile. Completely disgusting!
I thought the same thing! Wtf
@@SHARON.I No. “Allegedly” raped then. A child could never consent.
@@SHARON.I Yeah that's incorrect, it's impossible for an 11 year old to consent, it's always rape when it's kids.
Fact
@@AlexisS998 I stand corrected ✌️
That mom is not normal.
Neither is the Grandma. Looked as if they had No Feelings
She seems challenged.
Where did you see the Grandma?@@diamonddriver9235
She is a monster 🤬🤬🤬🤬
She sure is a monster over there comforting the murder of her own daughter sickening and thinking her daughter would sexually take care of this man or she left her there and that home alone
Here’s my theory…. She was pregnant, he noticed her pregnant figure when she wore the form fitting dress to her party. He takes her home buys a pregnancy test it’s positive so he kills her.
YEP!!
So true she does look pregnant! 😢
That's what I thought as well
Pretty damn good assumption.
Oh my gawd!!😪
At her 13th birthday there is no smile in the eyes… She is smiling but she is dead in the eyes… That poor little girl. Anyone who looked at that kid should have been able to tell something was very, VERY wrong. That is not a carefree 13 year old child…
She looks pregnant on that dress
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They were not “having sex”
They were ABUSED.
Thank you for commenting on that, it agitated me & I’m sure others as well. I get the CZcams rules but nah she’s making it sound consensual. SMH
Thank you for saying something that comment really annoyed me. It’s not like we’re talking about a child that was like agreeing to the situation, which is also horrific and you think about it. She was being abused!
I agree, that made me upset as well.
Madeline looks pregnant in her birthday picture😢
SHE WAS abused. The girl.
My blood is at boiling point toward this predator and Madeline’s mother. That poor child…no wonder she wanted to live in the woods.
What about the rest of the family?? Nobody know? Grandmother?
It happened to me when I was little by 2 different older men than this many times and nobody knew.
I feel like the woods comment was made up so they could throw off the search.
@@RepentfollowJesus exactly, now I’m not saying that she wasn’t involved, but he could’ve totally targeted her because she was so naïve and ditsy just to get to her daughter. My parents didn’t know either until I told them when I was an adult.
She lied and covered for him..she knew
This hit very close to home. My father abused me when I was 8 until I was 10. I told my mam and she kicked him out straight away. Our whole world came crashing down. It took me 20 years to realise that he was not sorry, was blaming my mother (the f***ing audacity) and that he would do it again if given the chance- and he nearly got that chance with another woman who had a young girl.
I could write a book about the crappy way it was handled- yes, in 2001 in Ireland my mother was told by the Gardaí nothing would be done about it unless I, a 10 year old child, wanted to press charges, and she was told by psychologists that my father could move back in with us and we could go back to being a normal family. I thank God that it happened before smartphones were around, because it's awful to think of people recording child abuse and then (in most cases) selling it to other pieces of s**t.
In 2021 I brought him to court. He got 8 years, of which he'll do about 5. He pleaded guilty (there was historical records from counselling), yet I still had to sit there with my family and listen to his defence claim that I "wanted it".
Still to this day my mother will not and has not brought another man into our house. I'll be moving out soon (yes, I'm 32 but we have a housing crisis and on top of that I have anxiety, depression and P.T.S.D), and I don't want to leave my mother alone after all we've been through.
People who can't fathom how a parent wouldn't know- paedophiles are sneaky pieces of s**t. And it would be very difficult to imagine the person you love would do that to his own daughter. My father was absolutely stupid, but he was thoroughly cunning. That's in my case though, but looking at the mother in this one, it strikes me as a rehearsed statement in her interview. She says "We dropped her off" then it turns to "he dropped her off". There's something off about her, and I wonder if she really did know, if she had an idea but ignored the signs, or if he spun her a lie about him being the first person they'd look at and then he couldn't help the mother.... something like that? Either way, he deserves death.
Paedophiles should be killed. They don't stop being paedophiles. They will push further and further and will never be satisfied. There is no redemption for them. They are a waste of space and money, and children deserve to be protected from them. They destroy lives.
Rest in peace, Madeline. You deserved so much better than this 💖
Very insightful and I'm so sorry you had to suffer like you have. You sound like one tough cookie though and I applaud you!
Im so sorry. Prayers doe you.
All I know is that when my daughter went "missing" for 10 minutes ( went scooter riding, new scooter) ....I went absolutely nuts. Screaming, crying ..telling everyone help me. She was (is) fine but I shall never forget that experience. She was at the time seven years old, she is 23 now and I still have "issues" with it.
Madeline’s mom is one of those moms who competes with their daughters and put men at top priority
Women like that are targeted by sexual predators to get access to their children. He knew what he was doing. She even seems to be covering for him.
@@teresacastro1263she definitely is covering for him. The way she had that girl dressed, with eye makeup and everything shows that she was most likely presenting Madeline as a present to him from her and her sick desperation to keep that sick man.
Is she that type of mom? How do we know this?
my mom was like that too. 🥺
@@niks8521 right we know nothing men pray on women who are single with little to minimal help from family friends even dads the mom probably didn’t know and her daughter maybe didn’t want to tell because it’s her mom we all want to see our mom & dad happy & me as a child why would I want to ruin that ?? She was abused for 2yrs from 11-13 up until her last day she probably threatened to finally tell on him he probably went in thinking yesssss I’m going to do this & that to her & she finally got tired of it he snapped was scared of the thoughts of jail etc ! I think that’s what happened
This “so called” doctor should never utter the words, having sex. This is a child. She is innocent. This doctor really irritates me and comes across as an idiot.
I give her type heavy, side eye because Kinsey's 'experiments' (child sa), on children were not denounced as inhumane like Joseph Mengele's and it's not, for no reason.
Sometimes, intellectuals are bent, as well and they're better, at justifications and diversions.
Legally, a child has no capacity to make any informed decisions and for an adult to engage in that act with a child is quite horrific.
Probably the dr is that
Please she should no longer on this show.
@taramay8174 Well.basically a child cannot have sex. It is still unformed and the fact that dr does not know this is disturbing.
The demon of a mother knew what that man was doing to that child
We don't know that. This is so common.... So many daughters ....
I have a 9 year old and 11 year old girls and this situation makes me so angry. Poor girl went through so much and didn’t deserve what happened to her.
There is NO way the mama didn't know. No way. I feel so bad for the poor baby girl. Pray she gets justice.
Exactly! It had been going on for YEARS!!! 💔😢
I really cant get passed the reality that Madeline would have certainly had injuries from the S / A that 🩸 & it would have presented in her clothing. Mothers do laundry….how could she not notice that?
@@notsorryyouretriggeredsome predators are really good at hiding their abuse. It's not necessarily bloody. They often know how to avoid this...
@@mariap.9240 if he was that smart he wouldn’t have been caught so fast by detectives. Its more likely the mother knew and ignored it or blamed her child
Leftists will tell you she was scared!!!!
There's no way the mom is innocent in all of this. She needs to get put in jail as well.
Well spoken, spot on. Nice to meet you🙏✡️❤️👌
Exactly
I agree and he probably killed her bc she was pregnant.😢
I agree! The mom needs to be investigated. It was reported that Madeline confided in her friends/classmates that her mom didn't believe her when she tried to tell her mom. Watching the mom comfort him while crying & lying to the world about his concern & love for Madeline after she went missing makes me physically ill & enraged simultaneously!🤢🤬🤢🤬🤢
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I’ve got a question: why wasn’t Gannon Stauch’s dad vilified for bringing the stepmom in? Women and men are treated very differentry by the media.
Can you imagine the fear and dread Madeline must have felt every time the freak snuck in her room? Omg. The thought of him wanting to be near her had to be so frightening and awkward.
The Mom looks more afraid she’s going to get caught for something she’s done, than worried about Madeline.
my exact thoughts.... she undoubtedly knows more than she is saying
They’re equally guilty.
She wasnt even hysterical or crying. Looking up and away from the camera. Human lie detector says lying. And repeatedly saying "we" dropped her off makes me think she helped him dispose of her. Was she involved in the SAs? Is that why the child couldn't come forward? Absolutely no upset her child is missing. I'd be hysterical and sedated.
Yep I think she was in on it and they were worried she was gonna tell someone what was going on in that house.
Totally.
I wouldn't be surprised if the little girl was pregnant. We'll have to wait and see what the autopsy reveals. So sad 😪😪
This! That was my thought as well.
They had to be rid of her...
Kinda looked like it in the last picture taken of her on her birthday
I think prehaps she fell pregnant and he had to do something about it. It's sickening to think he could of been abusing her this whole time. And for the mother... well I think she knows more!
the mom is obviously upset, she is probably getting information and learning what's on his phone
.then he seems to try to intimidate her while she's doing one of the Interviews. maybe he's telling her what she needs to say because the real truth looks bad... he probably "groomed" the both of them and maybe she's realizing this.
I just dont think we should judge her before everything comes out. poor girl...
I've been divorced for over 10yrs and not dated in 8. I have a daughter with cerebral palsy still home with me, and I just cant trust any man enough to even try to date. so it's hard for me to understand how mom didn't know, but playing devil's advocate.
I love you Vinnie and you uphold what is right!!! Please continue to speak your truth! It is very much appreciated by many, many people!! ❤️❤️🙏🙏👍👍
Can feel your anger and frustration through the screen vinnie. It's great to have someone passionate like you giving us news and crime.
How are you at work during your daughter’s 13th birthday party? She handed her to that monster on a platter. She knew!
Agree
exactly, especially learning it wasn't even her birth date. very sus.
YUP. Guaranteed she was involved one way or another in her disappearance & m urder.
EXACTLY!! 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯
Exactly! Exactly! Exactly!
I have been a single mom of 2 daughters (now 10&13) for nearly 8 years after divorcing my then husband. Call me what you want but I have NEVER let another man in our home since I’ve been a single mom. As a mother to my 2 precious daughters, my sole focus is raising them and I have ZERO interest in dating.
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I get you but there seems to be just as many “intact” families that the fathers are molesting their kids as well. Try dating but don’t introduce them to your kids.
Amen 🙏🏽🥰
I'm not a parent but I've worked with children for 12 yrs and I don't blame you for setting up boundaries and consequences for that part of your life. I can't tell you how many times I've heard kids talk about "stepmoms" and "stepdad"!!!... It's so annoying and what pisses me off is how much trust and access they give their partners, especially women. Ppl be so happy just to have someone that they will ignore or over look the relationship or lack there of btwn their children and partner. I just couldn't do it, I'm sorry....
As a man I respect that 💯
You are the REALEST. Thank you for being fearless and passionate. Madeline needs it 😇
I watched the testimony of the officer that was first on the scene and he broke down on the stand. He was so emotional and I felt so sad for him for having to experience what he saw. Mom had no tears.
Did she just call sexual abuse having sex???? Did I just hear that?!??!?!??!?! Sexual abuse is not having sex!!!!! Walked in on them ??? You mean walking in on HIM abusing THE CHILD?!?!
Exactly. He was r*ping poor Madeline. Abusing her. Molesting her. She can’t consent to having sex, she’s just a baby 😢
I know women who have stayed after they’re found out/exposed, they see them as the other woman. I believe the mom was complicit involved or at least knowledgeable-guilty.
I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. Like WTFFFF
After I lost my husband at 26yo, I decided to never let an unrelated man in my home with our little girls. It's not worth it happening to them, what happened to me. If I walked in, (& if I could control myself not to rip that chomo from limb to limb) I would've held my little girl & told her how sorry I was that I didn't protect her. Instead of this monster protecting this other monster. WTAF
Says a lot about that lady's head space... sick...
The "mother" claimed she had ADHD. I've seen so much about ADHD being misdiagnosed when infact the child has PTSD. She had PTSD at the hands of her "mother" and that monster she entered a r.ship with. Don't play the disability card when you are the CAUSE of it. I am so sorry Madeline, you deserved so much more than this hell.
Both can be true. People with ADHD/autism are somehow more likely to be abused.
Hi 88...IKR
She probably had anxiety from being abused
Trauma
I think it was more like casting blame on her daughter & degrading her in my opinion.
Do you know who is responsible.. all the people who don’t want to believe you when you tell them..
Jesus Christ, that affidavit is horrific 😭 how did this get past the mother
It didn't
The mother is slow
As the father of an almost 13 year-old girl, this case hits harder than others. As men, it's our job to protect our household, to show our sons how they are supposed to treat women and show our daughters the standard for how they should expect to be treated by men. The easiest way to model this behavior is how we treat their mother. I'm truly disgusted that this little girl never had a chance in life. It's just not fair and it's a story that is all too common. May everyone who failed Madeline be held accountable, here and in any hereafter.
Thank you so much for setting a great example for our children. We need more Men like you in this world. Whom share the same attributes and dedication as you do, for our future men. We need more MEN to understand that their presence is the main dynamic for our families to succeed. We need our men back!
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All children deserve a parent like you, sweet Madeline, rest with the Angels!❤
Your good Father. My Father was an abuser in 1930,40s50s60s70s never got caught and he was a youth leader/children care officer/social worker. I was best not abused but watch it first hand
Darling Madeline's suffering will have been a torcher for her.
I have never recovered from my experience 💔
Madeline told her friends "she would rather live in the woods, than at home.." my heart cries for this sweet angel. The abuse she endured and failed by her very own "mom" 🗑️🚮
OMG this is the first time I’ve heard this. I will never ever understand how a mother can allow this yuk happening to her child. She lied from day 1 to cover up for him. There is absolutely no excuse and not one tear or shaky voice sending a message to her daughter?! Phoney Baloney
Poor baby😢 I think she had plans of running away or she wanted this to stop and that is why he did it !
The text was sent shortly before she was reportet missing. Steven could have sent this to distracr police
She would have been safer living in the woods.
@@ideenfee
Her phone was at home, so it couldn't be "traced". I hope they are thorough in the investigation...
I thought the text also mentioned (her age), when I turn 13, or something like that...?
Poor girl. She looked pregnant in birthday photo.
Vinnie!!!!!!! I live in same community and helped with flees and searching as early as Tuesday - something mom said early early on was that Stephan “PICKED UP” Madeline and then took her to school - because I live here and I’m a mom that sent huge red flags for me. I wanted to know from where he picked Madeline up.
again, Jennifer’s early reports were that Madeline was picked up and taken to school.
This was a big deal for me because at that time we didn’t know if he lived with Jennifer and Maddie or not and after it was revealed, he lived in the apartment it seemed everyone dropped the phrase he picked Madeline up. I think it’s huge.
FIRST time watcher! I'm hooked!! MY FAVORITE PART IS the 3 Attys giving their Professional commentary and their opinion. I'm over here IN GENERAL making my own commentary as I watch crime shows (not at all in a profession related to theirs lol) I'm at the edge of my seat. Gonna subscribe and watch other episodes
I don’t like when people refer to victims being assaulted as “having sex.” That is not sex and should never be compared as such. Sets a dangerous precedent.
The “dad” looked high to me, more than anything. Now I see the mother again she has pinpoint pupils and looks like she might abuse some sort of substance as well.
They were together for three years “on and off” so he was abusing her the entire time they were together. The conversation with all the lawyers was weird, I don’t know why it was so focused on the parents, nothing about the child. They were all very crass about it. I hope it’s not a preview of how this will be reported. She JUST turned 13, it started when she was 11, she was a child and there was nothing consensual about anything that happened to her.
Exactly. You are 100% correct. Children are rap__d.
He smoke pot every day , and she was on depression medication. He was on Ativa and Lunesta meds which I’m pretty sure he used it on Maddie to put her to sleep to get her out of the house and tell people “she slept all the way to school” , but Maddie died either late that Sunday night or early hours of Monday morning.
This happened in my county . He used to work at Epcot (Disney)
My first comment was removed. You are correct. Wasn’t sex. Sex with a child isn’t “having sex”. It isn’t consensual.
It's a legal thing until the charges are upped.
Exactly, I'm so sick of all these "experts" scrambling and shouting to be heard over each other, but not really saying anything of value. They're very jaded and inconsiderate and don't care one flip about this little girl being r*ped and murdered, they only care about outgoing each other's so-called expertise on these dumb talk panels. I'm done with this stuff, Court TV. 🙄
She told someone in a text message that when she turned 13 she wanted to live in the woods. This is why. She wanted to run away to be free from those people.
Do you have a web link for this info?
Thanks
@@kame1624 it was on the news just google it
@@kame1624 all the news stations have put that information out there. Just Google it.
Also,"the word" ~ Her teacher and her daughter (close to Maddie's age) lived in a cottage in the woods ~ perhaps she felt safe with them. 🤔
This is believed to be a fabricated message sent after she was dead. It was meant to throw off the investigation by starting a narrative that she ran away. At least that’s what I read
Vinnie, I watch true crime all the time but let me share something with you. Last night on my way to work,a 25 min. drive, I shut off my radio and prayed for Maddie's soul. I asked God to hold her close and prayed for her soul to rest in peace. This case was like the icing on the cake and affected me like no other. This was horrific!! Thank you for keeping us informed. God be with you, Maddie, all of us always. 🙏🙏🙏
When the mom says I hope you’re not hurt in her appeal to her daughter she shakes uncontrollably like she knows she’s hurt .. passed 😢
It’s offensive that Liberman said “they were having sex, “ not she was raped. Odd for a psychologist.
Well you know how the crazy liberal, leftist, progressive Democratic thinking is,they think it's free for all and we all have a choice even with kids on what happens with them here and there
POLITICAL CORRECTNESS!
That caught me off guard too. Actually made me feel a little sick
This "psychologist" low-key supports predatory behavior. Calling gRape as 'having sex'. 🤨😡
@@stephanyhdz92 Free for all is 100%! Esp here in Cali. THANKS NEWSOME, DAss!
She was suffering not only because he was abused over and over , but I am sure it was more painful for her that her mom didn't protected her . For me the mother should be in JAIL long time ago.
Yes ! The mother not protecting her child is such a huge betrayal 💔 I know personally.
They BOTH should have been in jail.
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100 % agree
@lorimiller4301 I know that feeling personally also and If I could prevent it from every child ever I would!!
I'm sorry you have to know that feeling your in my prayers 🙏
Oh please these attorneys are crazy if they are innocent they don't need to call a lawyer, call the cops and media if your child is missing!
This happened to someone I know, it was well documented by a counselor, taken to a judge, nothing ever happened. We live in a fallen world.
a kid becomes a teenager ONE TIME in their Life , and Mommy Dearest had to WORK ??? i call BS
he claimed to have worked for Disney World on his Facebook.... he talked non-stop about this on his Reddit (Sustinet) ... he was even giving advice (grooming really) to "Teens".... the dude is SICK beyond SICK.... and those "photos and videos" the Cops found? .... they were of MADELINE!!! ... in THEIR HOUSE!!
That is exactly what I said
The only way she might have gone to work that day is because she knew what would be happening after the little girl's birthday party and didn't want to watch it happen!! There's a lot that didn't 'sit right' in their interview
I hope she goes away please God 😢poor baby girl I Love her so my God knows this at least
Nobody is defending these people but to discredit parents who have to work is uncalled for. Many parents have to miss things due to having to work. I think this mom had many issues we don't yet know exactly what she did or didn't know. I just don't think working on the day of her birthday party was the issue. Whatever was happening had been happening for a long time .
I have a sickening feeling she was pregnant and he needed to get rid of her. Breaks my heart that poor baby
I hope not! That would make this even more disgusting!
Agreed 🙁
She looks pregnant in the picture, could be she's just healthy.
Same thing in my mind she probably was pregnant!
Yes
The mother must be prosecuted also for negligence and complicity. Poor girl.
The mother needs to be held accountable!!!!!!!!!!! SHAME ON HER
The mother should be charged, too, for child endangerment, her own child. Rest in peace, Madeline 🙏
At the very least
AMEN AND AMEN.
This Dr. is referring to the rape of a child as , “having sex”?
I wondered why she said this as well
Look up the definition of sex. Rape is still sex.
Sex is consensual. When it's not, it's called sexual assult/rape. What are you fighting for here??
@@imhottequilabrownsaying just because they say sex it doesn't mean it's not rape also.
@@Jessicace I understand what you mean, but in the face of the long-term tragedy of this child (as well as others, because we were talking about partners molesting their partners' children), I hope we can agree that using the term "sex" alone without expressly mentioning "forced sex" suggests that it could have been with mutual consent, and as we know, children cannot give consent. Don't you agree? I assume what you mean is that every penetration is sex, but we are far more advanced in linguistics and morals to simplify it like that. We have to distinguish between forced penetration and fun intercourse, otherwise if you (Jessicace) get raped one day i expect you to go to the police and say "i just had sex with a man in the dark alley, can you please help me find him?"... How deos it feel to call it like that?
The whole thing is wrenching my heart
The mother needs charges as well!! As a mother she’s supposed to protect her child not her romantic interest.
She is the typical woman who would take anyone because just look at her. Desperate!
Madeline’s tired eyes and dark circles tell a lot. I thought it when she was first reported missing. I cannot imagine the suffering of this little girl with no one to protect her. We all know now Madeline and are so sorry❤
Heart breaking 💔
I notice her eyes as well😭 poor girl I can’t imagine the things she was going through💔
Yes!! I noticed that too, her eyes were empty 😢
The dark circles, sad eyes. Poor girl went through hell. Watching this mother makes me sick. I hope she is watching all of these shows with everyone saying she knows everything.
YES!!!! I noticed that IMMEDIATELY when I had only seen her picture! I didn't even know these details about her. As soon as I saw her face I thought, "omg, her face looks "stress-aged." Like she's been dealing with serious, adult-level stress or trauma."
Mom had NO TEARS AT ALL!!!! If my kid was missing, I wouldn't be able to function, let alone be able to calmly, give an interview!!!!
Don't tell me the mother didn't know or at least have suspicions.
That mother was more intrested in saving him, rather than her own daughter!
And didn't even say I love you to her daughter other than good night and that's it like
Correct
I didn't think that until i listened to what the mom first said "we dropped her off at school..." then later "i dropped her off at school". She had to of known something to include herself in the drop off , then exclude him next. And I;m curious why there's a statement that said the video at the church showed Madeline exit the car and walk away, but if she was never dropped off. SO then mom must be lying. Rediculous!
@@duhastkeinhertz They were either told, or shown by the police; a very blurry vid of a person. Police have their ways of figuring things out...
Mom's LYING. She knew exactly what was going on for 2 years. She's trying so hard to separate herself from her boyfriend and daughter. She wasn't home for the birthday? She wasn't there when HE dropped Madeline off at school? Then, she says "WE" dropped her off at school? Why is she helping this rapist and murderer? Because she's complicit and culpable. And much worse - she was this child's mother.
was more than 2 years..... Stephan posted a picture of Madeline on his Reddit when she was 9.... boasting about how good she painted a figurine..... seen for myself... and you can too... his account name Sustinet
@@sIXXIsDesigns "painted a figurine"???
By the looks of the mother, she is the type to be grateful to have a bf and overlook their predatory ways.
@@smassey6848 if not involve herself as well.... just because its a woman... dont mean they cant be an abuser.
@@Kay-fv7cw yeah... Stephan apparently collects KIDS TOYS of all sorts (odd i know) and paints them... he posted a photo oh Reddit of her holding one that she painted herself.
She had been telling friends that she wanted to go live in the woods when she turned 13.
This case. I'm a hot mess at work plotting on how I can get to Florida and arrested and placed in the cell as him 😤😡🤬 I hate this all of this
You forgot the mom claimed she saw her getting ready for school Monday morning
She also claimed she took her to school
Mother is afraid of Stephan, mother is not telling the truth. 🤫🇨🇦
she prolly lied
And gave a description of what she wore and saw her cross the street. All those details were lies to cover for the boyfriend.😡😡
Lying cover up
I could tell by how old and tired she looked, that this was not new to that poor girl. That smile, is a broken spirited one. So sad to recognize
Poor baby eyes looked like she barley slept 😢
She looked much older than her age. Trauma does that. 😢
Your comment made me tear up, cause when I saw her pic, her eyes look so sad!...my mom says she can always spot kids who are in Maddie's situation, she says, they look tired and like their clothes are never fitting well
I thought the same thing! Poor babygirl sometimes looked way older in some photos. Stress and lack of sleep along with abuse will do that to a child. I'm so angry this hairy mknster did this to her. Poor baby! @Stanfordmom-
@@firmehina4941 her moma have me so angry with her
Deception Detective does a great job of analyzing the mother's interview. Definitely guilty knowledge
I have never heard any mother call their daughter "buddy".
The lady is ridiculous. You don’t call your attorney first before 911!!!! Especially if you’re trying to save your daughters life😢 Is she serious
I didn't find her amusing at all. How could you smile and joke talking about a situation like this.
That mom is so nervous. She's shaking and rocking. She seems like she's worried about saying the wrong thing, which innocent people wouldn't do.
I just watched the Behavior Panel on you tube where they analyzed the video of the interview. Exactly what you’re saying. She’s scared ! 😱
She did say things. Like "we" dropped her off repeatedly. Makes me think she helped dispose of her. Maybe she was part of the SAs too.
I am thinking the same way. The shaking indicates she is extremely anxious & nervous about saying or doing something wrong. There are no tears. She is constantly looking up, avoiding direct eye contact with camera. She is hiding information.
Spot on, well spoken! You are 100 percent correct, if you lie, it's difficult to remember, if you tell the truth, there is no need to search for new words, change stories… and continue to fabricate more lies. Thank you, exceptionally well spoken🙏
I’m not sure that’s entirely right. Innocent people have also been caught up in investigations for saying the wrong thing. That should be a concern innocent or guilty in any crime.
the "mother" lied several times in just ONE interview. .. guilty! she knows what was happening to her daughter!
How on earth could a mother not know what goes on in her own house if the mom lives with them. The mom knows exactly what's going on!!!
I hate to say this but Madeleine looks like she’s holding trauma in her eyes. Almost like the light and life has already been taken from her. It breaks my heart. RIP ❤️🙏
I REALLY REALLY hate to say it looks like she has "Panda Eyes" Google it...or don't
She looks so worn out, like soul destroyed 💔
@@johannawigg6921 I know and it’s so so sad.
I agree.
like she cried every day
I love how angry he looks when he says "she's been suffering for years, this monster was living in her house!!" It's exactly how angry I feel... how sad and how awful that nobody protected this sweet girl. I'm so sad for her.. no child should have to live thru such absolute twisted acts.
Yeah that broke me, physically ill! Horrific! Where's this babies father!
@@PinkJoy143 someone said he's been in jail for a year.
given he posted a picture of Madeline on his Reddit when she was 9 years old... this abuse very much likely went on for ALL that time.
@@sIXXIsDesigns oh wow. What a creep.
@@FCUK- oh yeah... that dude deserves worse than the Death Penalty.
Why do these type of “news” reporters try to sensationalize these things in order to appeal to people’s emotions? Just share the info while being impartial and unbiaed no matter how awful it is? It’s so awful what has happened to hear but I don’t need media trying to lead me into how to feel.
She was afraid to sleep alone at 12/13 yrs old that’s a huge sign she was being violated.
The fact that the mother has not been arrested demands an explanation.
Agreed but she is going to be in jail in her head for the rest of her life
Gathering evidence. Building a solid case
I think its coming but I think the police want to do a thorough forensic analysis before they bring charges, they only have one shot at getting charges to stick. Fon't want no teflon charges in this case.
I AGREE!!
@@lisaderenard4467exactly!! I would rather have a thorough job than a rushed half assed one
Vinnie is the best reporter, he actually cares!! very few reporters like him left
So true been watching him for years ❤
Yes I love him he always says what I'm thinking.
Yes!! He is AMAZING!
Yes, I can see the pain in his eyes.
The Mom knew
only 4 minutes in and i’m crying already. i’m so sorry baby girl. 💔
Sickening. The mother is just as guilty… as a mother 3, I CAN always tell when something is off with my kids.
In my life. I ended up alone with 3 kids and stayed single until my children were grown, married and settled.
💯💯💯 same I’ve been a single mom for 8 years. My daughters are only 10&13 now but I have not and will not bring another man into this house with them. No dating for me and believe me I am FINE with that!
Wise decision indeed!
@@mikeandmals. Yes you hang in there. Protect your children . Good for you. ❤
@@kaireenaraj3010❤
@@dizziechef9502 thank you ❤❤
If I had a missing child, calling a lawyer would be the LAST THING on my list.
I've been single for 6 years and will likely be this way until my daughters are well on their way... I don't trust anyone with my children.
And they are saying the mom dated him for 2 years - so he started abusing her FROM TO BEGINNING. 😢
I heard they were together for 7 years 😢
They were together 7 years
Only 6 months then he just slept there between his parents house!!🤔🤔🤔
Dated for 7 months, lived together for 6 years. The r a p e s on the phone go back to 2 years ago. But he probably started years before and the pics and videos are on other devices.
Watched a video interview last night with Stephan’s best friend and he was not dating that woman for 2 years. He told his friend they were broken up.
Shouldn't even be showing pictures of her and her mom together smiling. It's a slap in the face to that poor little girl who's mother didn't care about her and chose a man over her.
For real! The audacity of the mother to sit and say that her daughter “shares everything with her” because they r soooo close and yet her mom pretends to know nothings wrong?! I have no doubt that this woman knew what was going on 😡
Vinny, you said the abuse started at 11. We don’t know that-it was just the oldest video on the phone, but he could’ve been abusing her for much longer.
How is it allegedly when they actually saw it on his phone in her bedroom...
Madeline was not having sex...this was sexual abuse. I despise how people keep calling it p*rn. It's CSAM! USE THE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY. She could never consent. At 13 years old let alone 11. She was a baby! I have a child that age. I can't imagine it. I hope that he is so afraid right now for his safety. Maybe he would then get to feel what she went through.
He will be dealt with in prison.
They both will be delt with..
If she was having sex with a 13 year old boy or 15, 16 years old boy then it was consent, yes yes it sure is consent.
@@regularguy2391 the law clearly states that a child cannot ever consent. Should change your CZcams name to "creepy guy2391"
He will be when he gets to prison
It’s called sexual assault also known as rape!
EXACTLY 💯
Nefarious people cannot fake sadness and grief because they are not aware of how it looks. Sociopaths imitate they think what normal people would do but cant genuinely pull it off.
There is NO WAY her mother didn't know this was happening or at least suspected it. Also, there is no way he accidentally did a factory reset on that phone? That is idiocy to even suggest! It's a two to three step process, depending on the phone. With that mother, that poor child never had a chance. I'll never believe the mother was clueless as to what was happening. She should be charged as well.
10000% suspicious of the mom.
I almost asked which one but it doesn’t matter. I’m suspicious of them both.
I agree with you
Right! Her story line omits the time between when she says she saw Maddie and when she lies and says she took Maddie to school…..ummmmm….
I want them both charged
Me too the mom is a monster she knows everything but chose her boyfriend over her precious baby girl both are evil people. May justice be served for little Madeline ❤🙏🙏😢❤️
Do we know this for sure that she did actually KNOW or was actually told by Maddie etc ?
You need proof for the mom first. I haven’t heard anything yet except people judging her for her awkward behavior and newsflash. There’s plenty of people in this world that are awkward and can give an impression of something that isn’t necessarily true. I’m sure they swept her phone and are looking for evidence to prove she knew something.
@@sheribasulto5884well, she's defending him! I think she has to know something to cover up for him with her statements. My opinion
Seriously!! The mom is a disgrace.
The mom should be in jail for failing to take care of a minor! Negligence!
Breaks my heart
He probably got her pregnant and was trying to hide his evil deeds. This poor child has had one hell of a life. SMH. Breaks my heart. That Mama knew, trust me, she knew.
he was filming 'acts' with Madeline.. SICK 'acts' that is... the affidavit makes this more than clear.... and that was upwards to 2 years ago.... now take into consideration Stephan posted a picture of Madeline on his Reddit when she was 9.... a horrifying thought.
I’m willing to bet she turned 13 and was too old for him so she was just trash to throw away to him
Pregnant or not. Didn’t the mother ever take her to a physician for any female medical condition?
She did know
@@georgejungle2255 thats a great question.... i wonder if they could tell she was being abused given a general 'check-up' or 'physical'... i would imagine so.
The ease with which women turn a blind eye to the type of men they have in their home all in the name of not losing them is criminal, she needs to be investigated asap.
And the excuses we allow these women to say to justify their actions. A child is dead, if you didn’t stop it, you condoned it.
i almost want to say that she may have very well took part in what he was doing.... i certainly wouldnt doubt it.
As a single mother, I chose not to date while my children were younger and still lived at home. I can’t imagine a mother not taking care of her children! She gives us single mothers a bad name. I hope she gets prosecuted as well!
@@smassey6848 being single while having kids does not mean you can't date... that ridiculous.... but just the same... KNOW who the heck you are letting in the house around them.... that is TWO clearly different situations..... and if anything... YOU give men looking to date single moms or moms looking to date DECENT men a "bad name".... grow up.
@@sIXXIsDesigns telling someone to grow up bc they may have a different opinion of yours, isn't a really making you look like an adult.
Oh hell no! Children are not for sale. Mine aren’t!! This is why communication is so important! Make it so your kids know you have their backs no matter what and nothing and no one is above them. I hate that these things happen too often.
Minors cannot consent. She was raped. For years. And photographed. And humiliated. And who knows what else. Maybe wishing she had a mother who could or would protect her?