Gigabyte Z790 AORUS Refresh with 14th Gen i5, i7 and i9
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
- Leo didn't create launch coverage for Intel 14th Gen when it launched, even though he had the processors in hand. He explains why, and takes the time to produce what we would consider more 'interesting' content focusing around the latest key Gigabyte Z790 Aorus motherboards.
The two boards are:
Z790 Aorus Master X £599.99
Z790 Aorus Pro X £419.99
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00:00 Start
01:00 Intel 14th Gen Core i5, i7, i9
04:49 Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master X
08:07 Some test results
10:31 Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Pro X
12:18 USB C Sensor Panel Link
13:05 Board closeup
13:20 BIOS and Performance with i9 14900k
14:58 Benchmarks - 13th/ 14th Gen Intel with Pro X board
19:49 Gaming Benchmarks
22:40 Leo Signs off
Test System:
Processors: Intel Core i9-14900K/Core i7-14700K/Core i5-14600K
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X63 with Noctua NF-A14 fans
Motherboards: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master X and Z790 Aorus Pro X
Memory: 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-6800
Graphics card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4080 Gaming OC 16GB
Power supply: Seasonic PX-1600 ATX 3.0
SSD: Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus M.2 NVMe
OS: Windows 11
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I really like how this channel looks & covers motherboards. I feel a lot of channels don’t cover them enough and they are one of my fav parts lmao . The z790 master & master x look tremendous.
Me too I like their case builds.
Cases and mobos and cpus. Best on net. James does the best case reviews I’ve seen
What I absolutely love about the Pro X is the USB-C with DP Alt-Mode. It means I can have a graphics tablet attached with ONLY a single USB-C cable instead of the previous need for 3 cables... The only other MB that can do this (Z690/Z790) is the proart creator. I went with Dominator Titanium 96GB 6400 kit and it works flawlessly with XMP, it's not on their QVL - but as the manufacturers say, they just don't get to test every single RAM kit. Amazingly, I scored 37 000 multicore in R23, MCE off.
I like how you guys cover products instead of setting things on fire for drama
Hi Leo, very informative and good focus on Gigabyte boards, I have had good success with gigabyte in recent years, I like that Master X but its very expensive, the Pro X looks like a more sensible solution and would be ideal for a new white themed build.
Leo, thanks for your great reviews. It's a solid channel for builders that need verification and insights to specifications prior to committing to builds. I have been using GIGABYTE exclusively for motherboards and GPUs and CORSAIR for everything related to cases, PSUs, cooling etc., and a, switching between G.SKILL and CORSAIR for memory. It's always been solid components for reliable builds, suitable for a great many years of service and I highly recommend these hardware vendors.
The heatsinks on the VRMs and primery m.2 are massive!
Mr Leo, i admire the restraint with refraining from doing a review of 14th gen instead of what many other reviewers did which were basically just brand slander video's. The vast majority of people don't really care about all the bias driven brand mudslinging that often happens in the PC enthusiasm space. We all have our preferences and opinions which is absolutely fine. However, when producing video's, it would appear most professional to not allow opinions to trickle in these videos. In my opinion, personal preference of the reviewer matters not to me and when reviewers use that opinion to influence their audience is when their content looses it honesty and reliability. So it is on these points that i say that this video is a shining example of how reviews should be made and the content on display in this presentation is made in the manner which it should be. I couldn't ask for a better tech video. Intel nor AMD needs to be the best all around all the time and i personally don't want to see content where one brand is placed on a pedestal over another. Double thumbs up from me.
I thought the same. ❤
But drama sells. Gamersnexus have made a career out of that.
@@historianfabulousio5128 Them and Hardware unboxed allow their videos to devolve into a childish mess because they go off on pointless tangents which are driven by their own personal hate for something. I'm personally okay that people like one and not the other; no issue. It's when these influencers have to keep telling me as a viewer over and over and over again that they hate one brand,,, i personally loose interest and feel they have no credibility. Simply because, their video instead of being about the subject of the content, end up becoming shaped overall by their personal brand hate and the content is formed around showing why they hate the brand.
I couldn't have said it better...I personally like and buy Intel products...my money my choice I don't watch videos on AMD products because not my preference but when they go off and AMD tangents in an Intel product video they lose me and I stop watching...I come for information on the products...in this case they are Intel mobos...I wonder who would be the target audience for a z790 video 🤷🏿♂️. so he definitely earned my sub and hardware unboxed definitely lost it as the AMD bias continues even on their z790 video smh
Great article, that gigabyte board in white is lovely, glad you focused on it Leo, might factor it into my new white build after new year.
Prefer the white board think this will be a new trend going forward.
That USB-C for a case display is a really good idea. All PCs should have a display built into the case cant believe it’s taken so long to do.
Another cracking focus Leo, Ok surely im not the only one who thinks that matching WHITE BIOS IS KILLER!? 🤯
Nice review Leo. Some good looking boards those
Amazing watching it burn through that cinebench rendering.
TY. BIOS updated my Z690s but am thinking I'll just not upgrade them, will think about it again down the road.
Awesome channel by the way. I'm in the process of planning a new build with an I9 14900K and was interested in the AORUS PROX or MASTERX. You mentioned about undervolting the processor. Saw one of your videos where you did this on an MSI board showing the BIOS screens. Would you be kind enough either to show how you do this on the GIGABYTE BIOS for these boards (maybe in your next PC build you mentioned at the end of the video), or could you point me to what settings you need to change and values to put in and I can work it out from there. Thanks in advance,
Just finished a build with the 14900k with the master x gigabyte board and I love it !
These numbers are going off the charts. DDR5 8266... Wifi 7... Cant keep up!
Thank you for the review. Could you please share more info how MSI z790 carbon wifi managed to be at the top while using less watts. Thought it was a pretty huge deal, did you undervolt the cpu for that particular test ? I know the review is about different boards but carbon stood out in that instance, thank you
The completely white motherboards look really beautiful! I have a slight hope that this will become a trend of some sort
It already has
Iv recently switched to a Gigabyte motherboard and really liked it so far. I miss the Asus BIOS tho
you guys do the best reviews
What Bios Configs did you use for the tests? You changed any setups in Bios? Or did you left all at the default? Or did you just use the "Instant 6ghz" settings in Bios?
Not that it particularly matters for this video.. but when you have an M.2 drive in the top slot you're giving up 8 PCI lanes shared with the top PCI-E slot. So the 4080 in this demo was running in X8 mode. This seems quite ridiculous since the top M.2 slot has the 'best' cooling solution attached.
lol really?
Graphics haven't saturated Gen 4, let alone Gen 5, so there is plenty of bandwidth to go around. You are quite correct that the split is x8 to the GPU and x4 to the top M.2.
Leo
Great video as always. Can anyone tell me if the 14th gen CPUs just slot into older mainboards that support 13th gen, though? So far the BIOSes I've looked at don't mention any support for new CPUs and I am still stuck at thinking about making a Sonic build with the ASRock Z790 PG Sonic and with 13th and 14th gen CPUs being virtually identical in price, I'd kinda feel bad about using 13th just to be on the safe side.
Nice they made the bios white to match the PCB colour.
Hi Leo did you get the other gigabyte z790 boards or just these two ?
Thanks for the video 👋
No problem 👍
That Pro X is fabulous !
On MSI boards I too noticed the same for my less expensive 5600X, but the undervolting of these was already a recommendation, however, I do find it weird, that it wants to run it with a lot more voltage than it actually requires. Undervolting lowers the temperature by 5 C° or less, depending on the values, case etc. Anyway, these look fantastic, with a board like that it would be nice to try Intel, especially with the LCD case.
Undervolting is the way to go
Can't get my hear around this is it a CPU thing or a BIOS thing or a combination of both...
About time they included vents in the backplate as it was always an airflow bottleneck. Going to be another dust magnet though!
Good point !
i always thought that as well, has anyone ever really tested it properly across various boards?
I tend to only buy MBs with debug LED displays, with Evga leaving that narrows the field. I think that the Master X just costs too much. I ended up getting an Asrock Nova, and it cost me $279usd. It might be missing some of the super highend features but it's really solid performance wise.
Is it stable? my last experiences with ASROCK were terrible, i hear they are a bit hit and miss at times.
Dang it! I was quietly building my pc hoping no one notices this specific Asrock board and now it's sold out almost everywhere and price jacked up
@@DavidRegaL-lw5xz even Microcenter and Newegg? The board works fine for me so far btw...
@@hairsprungdutchtechnique9626 running perfectly so far with my 14900K..
Motherboards are becoming so fully featured you hardly need the expansion slots anymore.
Do you think running a larger cooler would tame the heat and keep the cpu's from throttling as soon?
Hello, Is this the motherboard you would recommend for a new build with 14900k? What kind of cooler for it?
Which kit would you recommend if one is wanting to get the new Corsair Dominator Titanium Ram? Have the same motherboard and never understood single or dual rank
You won’t really get a reply from Leo very often. I don’t post questions here. James always replies though on his videos.
I just finished a new build using the Aorus Master X, but I chose the 19-13900k to pair with it. I just was not going to spend and additional 100 bucks on the very underwhelming 14900k.
Love how Leo puts it all together on the desk without bothering with a case.
What motherboard you recommend for i9 14900k ?
Interesting bios issue that needs addressing. Why is it running so much power through the CPU? Is it a stability thing?
Not sure about that but it may be running right at the edge of its performance envelope hitting heat dissipation issues with a "normal" aio cooler.
i cant get 4 sticks ddr5 running on the elite x, any help
I really want Intel to make the chipset/CPU allow for TWO USB C front panel connections and increase the # of PCIe lanes to allow for PCIe 5.0 SSD and GPU without sharing lanes.
Can't believe we're already at 14th Gen
Think its 14th gen in name more than anything else.
How does 8 layer PCB makes things better?
Prefer the white one although they need to source white dimm and pci-e slots. I seem to recall back in the olden days most Simm slots where white so it shouldn't be that hard!
You're almost right they were a kind of cream colour which would have clashed with the pure white of that board.
PROX FTW !
My chipsets temps are 80-90 on the msi carbon wifi with 14900k.. yours are 25/30... what's going on
Did you observe any coil whine in this mobo refresh?
we didnt experience any no.
Hi Leo,
I bought this new Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Pro X with an i9 13900KF for my son & I am trying to replicate the undervolting settings you used on the MSI Z790 Carbon WiFi in this Gigabyte BIOS. I can set the Vcore to 1.300 and adjust the LLC, but I cannot find the 'BCLK 100MHz Lock On' option in that Bios.Can you please recommend on what I should do ? I tried forums & mailing Gigabyte but noone seems to be able to help me
Pretty please ? :)
Thanks !
I really hoped to get an answer here guys..this would probably only take you 10 seconds and spare me a lot of headache, but I guess I was wrong asking you for help ! :(
How come neither of these have project Zero?
I would like to see those memory claims verified by people. Almost no one ever truly tried that DDR 8266+ claim. I seen some people get 7200 with the Pro X, but I want more reviewers to verify these claims. DDR 7200 is easy to buy and is still quite affordable, but almost no reviewer online or on CZcams tests this with reviews. I may see DDR 6000 and the rare occasional DDR 6400 though. I normally don't assume DDR 8000+ is doable outside of an Asus Apex or Gigabyte Tachyon, but I'd like to see more in depth memory reviews and tinkering.
good video Leo
Glad you enjoyed it
DDR2 8266 - holy crap, my system suddenly feels very old. Is there any memory company selling memory at those speeds? are the latencies terrible? they must be, surely.
The general consensus seems to be that the 14700K is the best deal from Intel 14th gen. It trails near the 14900K and often beats the 13900K in gaming, offers up to a 14% uplift in multi-thread relative to the 13700K and consistently has much better 1% lows than X3D CPUs while pricing near the 7800X3D. The only drawback is likely power draw and cooling, though it should be possible to ameliorate it a bit with an undervolt.
It's like when 10th gen came out and then the 11th sorry gen dropped
I'm going to do the opposite of what Leo advises and throw my 13th Gen in the bin so I can get an incrementally quicker 14th Gen. Take THAT Leo!
lol 😂
I bought the i7 😅
Quite like that pro X over the master X.
I want the Pro X please. 😊
So what youre saying is that 14th gen isnt really a thing just an overclocked 13th gen unless you plump for an i7.
aorus z790 pro x, vrm dual rail
8266 on 4-DIMM boards is laughable. 8000 XMP kits can't often run stably unless you have a chip with a godlike IMC even on 2-DIMM boards like the Tachyon.
Love your content, however i aint buying Gigabyte ever again after 2 failed RMAs, an exploding PSU scandal and my aorus waterforce x280 breaking apart after 6 months of purchase, i have never encountered such outrageous company
These are some nice 13th generation cpus…
Thing is 13th or 14th gen high end still has Risen beat so well done Intel either way.
Who does gamers nexus hair? It has so much volume and bounce. Is it a wig? If so could Leo get one?
No brainer, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Pro X wins. Whether the superb aesthetic, really working the ATX form factor, or decentish cost is enough to overcome the other Gigabyte caveats is up to the buyer. I'd be tempted but leery. If motherboard mfrs were as reliable as Leo Waldcock, life would be much less fraught.
Did intel feel pressured in throwing out more cpus for the same socket, with barely any generational leap? They must be receiving tips from Nvidia
The forward pressure is insane. Apple are doing the same thing with annual iPhone releases. All incremental stuff no one gets to take a breather or shareholders complain.
Why is the ranking for gaming performance done based on average values instead of 1% lows? Especially once you hit an acceptable framerate the 1% values are much more important and can make the difference between 100% fluid or some stutter. Intel performs much better for 1% lows in almost all games.
Getting really annoyed with the overuse of the term AI.- AI assist overclocking really does sound like marketing BS.
Just 4 sata though that’s a big letdown on a 560 price point
Ok, I'll take the bait and ask, just how many storage units do you want? This motherboard has five M.2 and four SATA. These days 2TB M.2 are very cheap and 4TB or 8TB SATA are very good value so we are way past a total of 20TB.
Leo
More money than brains...
I don't get why anyone would invest in these, at all.
14900K is the end of the line for this socket of Intel CPUs. You're buying a complete dead end of a product.
The 14 series CPU only makes sense if you already have a compatible motherboard, ready to drop one in as a final upgrade to an existing PC, before starting again.
I usually keep a system 3 years, then sell it and get a new one. A lot of people likely arent that bothered - obviously some are of course, but I dont think ive ever built or bought a system with the intention of upgrading a part of it 3 years later, I just move on to something completely new.
@@johnerikson2443 I get what Dr.D00p says, this platform wont have a decade of life left in it, but I would argue that most people reading these comments and watching this video will likely have a redunancy factor of maybe 3 years before moving to a new platform. I could be wrong. I tend to keep most systems I make for 4 years, but by then the CPU and motherboard are going to be changed. I never upgrade either... maybe just the GPU if I skimp out first time and get a good price on a beter GPU a year later.
Lots of people buy pcs once every say 5 years (myself included) so having an "upgrade path" doesn't add any value since they will change the platform they're on anyway.
It is sad that Gigabyte tries to hide all the features on their new X boards and charge more for their white boards and give you less. It is the same with AMD x670e/B650 boards as they sell you the same name boards and add Ice and X and lower the PCB layers to 6. Gigabyte hides their features like ALC897 Codec audio and just call it High Def. and force you to find it somewhere in all their Docs. Gigabyte has no problem showing the ALC 1220 Codec in the main description. The Pro X would have been the perfect board if done the right way Like M.2 gen 5 and PCIe Gen 5 but they didn't and they still charge way to much just to get white. If you use the Gen5 M.2 you only Get 8X on the PCIe WHY on the Z790 Pro X and charge more as it is white.
You need at first try a better cooling solution.
Intel can catch AMD in gaming when using fast memory kits.
The only thing that puts me off is that you'll have to outlay more cash for the higher speed RAM itself and the CPU will be using circa 3x the wattage to achieve this comparable performance.
The 7800x3d only uses about 50w in gaming workloads which is impressive and you don't need to spend much to get a sufficient cooler for it.
I love these boards, but ive made the decision my next system will be AMD - just to try a new platform. I also think Intel are struggling massively as this generation seems such a waste of time. Will be interesting to see their progress in next 2 years.
Why would anyone buy these motherboards?. When the 15th gen requires a new motherboard socket.
JUST 'CAUSE there are not 15th gen cpus outside...people lives nowadays!!!
14th Gen uses PER core throttling/voltage, 13th/12th gen use ALL core throttling/voltage... They are NOT the same and DO function differently. This is noted on the Intel documentation that all of 3/50+ CZcams tech people actually read. SkatterBencher is literally the only person to put out a video actually demonstrating working knowledge of these changes. To say that 14th gen and 13th gen are the same is simply willful ignorance and a disservice to the community. We can do better.
Great video! I would love to dive into ram info. Im getting a i9 14th with any of these the two mobos, do you recommend 128 gb ram 6000m 4 sticks or 64 gb 4 sticks… or 2 sticks 64 gb ?
I also wonder how things are with 4x dimms. I dont like using only 2.