The First Descendant - BEGINNER'S Guide - Modules, Reactors, EXP, Mastery, Upgrades and more

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  • Welcome to my complete beginner's guide to everything THE FIRST DESCENDANT.
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    Timestamps:
    0:00 - Intro
    2:39 - Starting Descendants
    5:14 - Mastery Levels
    7:02 - Weapons, Ammo, Rarity and DPS Comparisons
    13:35 - Modules - Weapons, Descendants, Capacity
    18:56 - Reactors - Descendent Synergy, Skill Power Boosts
    24:15 - External Components - HP, Shield, DEF, Ultimate
    26:28 - Albion - Quick Tour, Important Spots
    30:36 - World Map - Mission Types, Specific Farming, Resource Locations
    36:47 - Grapple and Movement Tips
    38:20 - Outro Summary
    The First Descendant, Modules, Reactors, Components, Weapons, Upgrades, Descendant, Mastery Levels, External Components, EXP, How to Level Up,
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Komentáře • 155

  • @brandonmoorat2263
    @brandonmoorat2263 Před 26 dny +52

    Upgrade your Decedent's sub attack mod. Like Shock Punch. It increases your capacity.

    • @johnsherry6021
      @johnsherry6021 Před 24 dny +3

      @@brandonmoorat2263 no way!! Thank you

    • @morfius533
      @morfius533 Před 24 dny +1

      Was coming to the comments to say this lol. Didn't find this out until recently after actually reading it lol.

    • @brandonmoorat2263
      @brandonmoorat2263 Před 23 dny +1

      @Ch0p-69 Its level increases, but it doesn't cost anything. When I put a max level shock punch on (nothing else), my capacity goes from 0/50 to 0/60.

    • @kingcurmudgeon8685
      @kingcurmudgeon8685 Před 23 dny

      Yeah that’s pretty much all that sun attack is good for. The actual mechanic is garbage

    • @brandonmoorat2263
      @brandonmoorat2263 Před 23 dny

      @@kingcurmudgeon8685 Cool. Got anything helpful to add?

  • @Vub.
    @Vub. Před 22 dny +7

    This game is great and FREE. I dont understand how some people still find something to complain about something that is free. People just love to hate. Stay positive gamers

  • @davidepulinas1640
    @davidepulinas1640 Před 8 dny +1

    That's a D2 player explaining and I'm all for it👍🏻

  • @Ebontis
    @Ebontis  Před 26 dny

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  • @oliverwain1158
    @oliverwain1158 Před 5 dny

    Finally, an actual started guide! Everything I’ve seen so far has tips for people that have 100+ hours in the game. Thank you so much this helped no end.

  • @steveeymann6374
    @steveeymann6374 Před 26 dny +6

    Super helpful advice like usual. The only thing id add is that doing the special operations mission in kingston ( purpleish shield icon), will level you up fast AF. In 10 minutes i went from lvl 12 to 26.

  • @aarontyler69
    @aarontyler69 Před 26 dny +13

    One of the best similarities with Warframe and this are the Master Ranks. Not having to take those tests and just level mastery up is quite nice.

    • @morgott13
      @morgott13 Před 25 dny +2

      Level 13 was the worst

    • @svgkaos7826
      @svgkaos7826 Před 25 dny +2

      Fr that's honestly why I quit playing Warframe takes so long to get to the next one and I been stuck on like 10 for years lmao

    • @kurtisdeakin
      @kurtisdeakin Před 25 dny +2

      Oh yes!

    • @KaelumKrispr
      @KaelumKrispr Před 24 dny

      ​@@svgkaos7826you just gotta use new weapons, can bash out a lot of mastery ranks quick, they also are really that needed once at 10

    • @aarontyler69
      @aarontyler69 Před 24 dny

      @@svgkaos7826 Agreed, I don't mind the tests so much. Having to wait the 24 hours when you fail said test, that's the worst.

  • @1div2agent74
    @1div2agent74 Před 26 dny +6

    Can’t wait to get off work and play this game tonight lol

  • @Nicherie
    @Nicherie Před 24 dny

    So glad you’re playing this and making videos as you always cover everything. Hopefully you make more TFD content. Great video, cheers!

  • @yerpyerp
    @yerpyerp Před 26 dny

    Exceptional guide. Thank you. This should be a must watch for any new player who wants to know some starting tips.

  • @Rage-_-Quit
    @Rage-_-Quit Před 24 dny +3

    Also don't try to do fancy builds with a lot of mods early on. Slap atk, element atack, maybe some firerate and crit on your weapon and on descendant just stack hp and def. Damage and survivability without any bells and whistles will carry you through the story.

  • @kingchiles4328
    @kingchiles4328 Před 26 dny +2

    Omg this video is so informative. Just what I needed tbh. I'm a Division 2 player so I'm not totally lost but this is great. I'm playing with Freyna rn and I guess I'm taking my time with the game.

    • @fleezie7376
      @fleezie7376 Před 24 dny

      @@kingchiles4328 I’m coming from div 2 as well. Still trying to get the swing of things.

  • @DakotaRose2546
    @DakotaRose2546 Před 26 dny

    Helpful as always E :-) Having fun with it so far.

  • @user-nx4lj2mu6k
    @user-nx4lj2mu6k Před 25 dny

    Great Vid E! Downloaded yesterday and played for a few hours. Enjoying so far. Hints and tips were really helpful.

  • @ChibiTheEdgehog
    @ChibiTheEdgehog Před 21 dnem +1

    I personally, dont upgrade any modules until i hit Pyromaniac mission. I just focus on DPS as you can just brute force any enemy prior to Pyro. Once you hit Pyro i start reducing the ammount of Modules and start focusing on "specialty". For my guns, I utilize all the preset slots and have one where i buff up rifling and rate of fire and only really change the element based on the boss

  • @octaviorodriguez1410
    @octaviorodriguez1410 Před 24 dny

    Thank you for this video, I just started the game, my brother recommended it, and I like it a lot so far. This video is super helpful, I appreciate it.

  • @ChibiTheEdgehog
    @ChibiTheEdgehog Před 21 dnem +1

    AJax fits EVERY situation equally, i can see why it is his helmet on the logo and not Bunny's

  • @MrLaslo8
    @MrLaslo8 Před 22 dny

    Great explanation on some of the finer details, guns, mods, resources and the target farming. I just started playing over the weekend and loved this guide. Hope you do more. Ps. Really like your destiny content as well.

  • @TripleDice
    @TripleDice Před 25 dny

    Nice informative video man! Enjoyed watching it.

  • @BMur_
    @BMur_ Před 25 dny

    I jumped in out of boredom and have been enjoying it a lot . Good time killer and grind game for down times.

  • @soni_nyc2829
    @soni_nyc2829 Před 23 dny

    Thx for the video it's well done and really helped since I just started playing the game. 👍

  • @ajaverill08
    @ajaverill08 Před 26 dny +1

    Still watching the video so idk if you mention it later, but when going over the mods. If you boost up the sub weapon mod it gives you more mod capacity for your descendant. Highly recomend doing this

  • @amirt4444
    @amirt4444 Před 23 dny

    Very useful video , thank you❤️

  • @fleezie7376
    @fleezie7376 Před 24 dny

    You can also prestige your mod slots with specific module brands on your descendant. It will make the slot specific and start you at level 1 but it lets you cut modded module numbers in half

  • @thomasgarwood6614
    @thomasgarwood6614 Před 26 dny

    Love the content

  • @MrPhins
    @MrPhins Před 22 dny +1

    There's only one vital tip you need to know. It's a Nexon game. Next.

  • @chiraakitteh4091
    @chiraakitteh4091 Před 25 dny

    I also found that when enhancing mods, it’s good to have at least one unenhanced version so that if you upgrade need to upgrade one mod, ie an upgraded resistance mod for an intercept boss, that you still have at least a base mod to fall back on. If you delete all of them you might be out of luck.

  • @hoosful
    @hoosful Před 26 dny +2

    Great guide as always i downloaded the last night so now i know i pick lepic or the girl but my geuss is you gonna pick ajax lol .

  • @Adamabe1221
    @Adamabe1221 Před 4 dny

    PSA do NOT keep rare weapons for the substat rolls early to mid game. weapon level transmission does NOT increase substat values. jumping large level gaps will change your 4 gold level substats into potentially white level stats

  • @chiraakitteh4091
    @chiraakitteh4091 Před 25 dny

    Regarding external components: there are also rare (purple) and ultimate sets that can further extend the amount of time you might use a component that is lower level. You only mentioned sets when you looked at your storage, and they can drop around lvl 10 so many folks will see them early.

  • @mothstomper
    @mothstomper Před 26 dny +1

    The disable the "tower" objective is a little deceptive, it's more like a pedestal lol. So fyi if you're looking for an actual tower you can stop, you're not crazy, they aren't there. It's the interactable little pedestal things.

  • @BoarLeo
    @BoarLeo Před 26 dny

    You can indeed bring a weapon to higher levels however the random stats at the bottom percent ranges also go up with level so a gold roll stat at level 50 will not be a gold roll at level 100

  • @DEMONBONES8
    @DEMONBONES8 Před 22 dny

    This is a good guide. I think they got something good going with this game, if they calm down on the microtransactions, expand the endgame, and smooth out combat think theyll have a great game.

  • @Homedoceu7
    @Homedoceu7 Před 26 dny +2

    Very good video.

  • @micheleschenetti7791
    @micheleschenetti7791 Před 25 dny

    There’s a button at the bottom of the screen to automatically dismantle duplicate mods so you don’t have to check one by one

  • @daprotech
    @daprotech Před 22 dny

    Love your content. No matter the game.

  • @jimmywatson468
    @jimmywatson468 Před 21 dnem

    I like how you can remove modules from your weapons and put them on others. I've only been playing a couple days, but so far I'm loving it. Before now, I would play Destiny. Not anymore. Lol.

  • @KrzyczAndrzej
    @KrzyczAndrzej Před 20 dny

    Where can i find the meaning of those hexagonal icons in reactors? like some of them seem to be lit up and some not

  • @gdo79
    @gdo79 Před 26 dny +3

    Thanks for the tips E, looks like a fun game to try when I have the time

    • @Klyce
      @Klyce Před 26 dny

      @@gdo79 Yeah yesterday was the only day I could play and it was down for maintenance all day.

  • @ricketydemigod2861
    @ricketydemigod2861 Před 5 dny

    Thanks for the guide and tips 🤙can't wait to enjoy the game more now that I understand it more. But for on the reactor mods can u switch, let's say the, skill duration UP or skill crit dmg to like Non-attr skill power boost ratio if I wanted to

  • @natb3063
    @natb3063 Před 23 dny

    Hello, these tips are great.
    Do you happen to have or know of a discord to find other players on?

  • @rogerkim1910
    @rogerkim1910 Před 26 dny

    Nice video

  • @MrLaslo8
    @MrLaslo8 Před 22 dny

    Thanks!

    • @Ebontis
      @Ebontis  Před 22 dny

      Appreciate the Generosity.

  • @dr.wumbologist7818
    @dr.wumbologist7818 Před 26 dny

    Great guide felt thorough but not drawn out

  • @AbyssalAnguish
    @AbyssalAnguish Před 23 dny

    When fusing weapons to be a higher level the Random roles don’t scale so wouldn’t recommend even holding anything… you’ll have to Re-Roll its Rolls and probably loose the stats you was trying to keep.
    TLDR: A lvl 1 weapon with electric atk will be like 10 but at 50 it’s like 1000 if you fuse a lvl 1 weapon to lvl 50 it’s electric atk stat will still be 10 so wouldn’t recommend holding anything

  • @munchy8404
    @munchy8404 Před 24 dny

    goooood vid

  • @clutchspwnz6971
    @clutchspwnz6971 Před 26 dny +1

    Also, You can dismantle your duplicate mods all at once 👍

  • @PokeHypeYT
    @PokeHypeYT Před 24 dny

    For early game I just use the shop as a quick and early way to farm resources from filling my inventory then dismantling ngl. But when I played the beta I sold the stuff I didn’t need and you shouldn’t really do that because you lose resources and you earn more money just by playing

  • @someOldBaldguy
    @someOldBaldguy Před 12 dny

    Can we upgrade external components?

  • @Skippyflapjacks
    @Skippyflapjacks Před 26 dny

    Long time division 2 player here. I started this game last night and enjoying it so far. But as someone who really PVE’d to PVP I’m worried that I’ll get bored quickly.
    What keeps everyone playing long term in a game like this? I’m generally curious . Thanks

    • @JoshDillon-lm3hw
      @JoshDillon-lm3hw Před 24 dny

      Sorta the grind for now at least the big end game contents coming later an they'll keep adding descendants so if the content the bring is good hopefully you'll wanna collect dif characters to battle different ways

  • @Xariann
    @Xariann Před 25 dny

    Get a descendant with fire damage by the time you get to the Dead Bride, I would say!

  • @SuperWise15
    @SuperWise15 Před 12 dny

    Guy plz I’m begging u I bought this reactor but it’s level one how do I make it so it’s up to my level

  • @sivatechfromxb
    @sivatechfromxb Před 25 dny +1

    If anyone knows how to fix twitch drop rewards and get them to appear in game, Id love to know.
    I've triple checked that my platform accounts and Twitch account are linked to my TFD account.
    -I've watched all the required streams for the designated times and claimed all rewards on the Twitch redemption page.
    -I've checked my ingame mailbox, before and after restarting the game multiple times.
    Idk what else to do to get my rewards :(

    • @alucardlancer
      @alucardlancer Před 23 dny

      @@sivatechfromxb you have to wait like for a day, eventualy the drops appear in your in game mailbox

    • @sivatechfromxb
      @sivatechfromxb Před 20 dny

      ​@alucardlancer
      Update: it took 5 days from when I linked account to finally get my rewards

  • @Dana-cb7vk
    @Dana-cb7vk Před 24 dny

    Game is fun. I come from Warframe (played since launch on XBox), Destiny (some Destiny 2, but not much), and both Division games. Just to give background on experience. Ofc I play tons of other games but closest to this (I loved Anthem sad and mad it got dumped via its promises to fix it. HUGE trust loss there to those devs/publisher).
    This game gets a LOT rightbut has a LOT it needs to polish out. The MTX side of things I feel, is too steep *for what the game has yet*. Gice it time to flesh out and a few years it may seem worth it if they polish it out and add appropriately to its depth/length/variety.
    Its fun. Not so fresh, but fresh enough to be its own thing, and looks absolutely amazing. Its engaging, for what I experienced so far.
    I am torn on being too specific on what all it needs as I have not spent enough time with it to be properly subjective/sure on those proclimations, but have a generalist idea whats in store/what I feel it needs. Thing is I am not in end game so cannot elaborate properly yet, as no idea whats beyond the nexr corner as I play avoiding spoilers and tips videos that get too in depth beyond guides like this.
    UI could use work. Customization locked how it is is wonky, 1 time use colors? Not ebough time spent to notate difderence between regular vs ultimate (only have WF to go one there, its dofferent here it seems to a degree- again, more time needed just reading vs playing, LOL. It pulls you in pretty fast). The games equivilant to forma seems hyper expensive too.
    But the game play is fun enough and pulls one in enough. Idk if it willchold as the grind fest to me is limitedhaving a family and house to run plus full time job working 60+ hours a week. So unsire how much it will stick to me vs games with cheaper MTX hops for gear, or faster grinds.
    May jump back in tonight. Game is fun but feels like it missing something, cheaper MTXs as a side note. I just cannot put my finger on what it is missing (no, not PVP lol). That bothers me, not being able to exactly put down what it feels absent on. I guess time will either allieviate that or allow me to elaborate.
    Regardless, fun game hope all enjoy it! If the MTX cost is fitting for you great! It wouldn't hurt me per say, but value to dollar feels a bit off to me, so not investing in it too far, at all..for now. I can for sure see how MTX costs may be limiting to some, for sure.

  • @touatiamir7592
    @touatiamir7592 Před 22 dny

    My heart say buy esimo
    My mind say buy Kyle

  • @mikeyc4525
    @mikeyc4525 Před 26 dny +1

    Hey Ebontis. Fellow D2 player here, and subscriber. I'm just trying to figure out how to unlock Vespers. I've got one descendant at lvl 40 (Bunny), and another one close. I don't know what I'm missing. This game is frustrating.

    • @chiraakitteh4091
      @chiraakitteh4091 Před 25 dny +1

      Pretty sure at the end of each zone, you will need to successfully complete the colossus intercept they assign you before the next zone unlocks. Good luck.

    • @kingcurmudgeon8685
      @kingcurmudgeon8685 Před 23 dny

      Yes beat the void intercept to access each new area of the map

  • @edwintorres9855
    @edwintorres9855 Před 24 dny

    The laboratory is an arena where you can spawn enemies to test your skills and weapons

  • @Kikokikz_RPG
    @Kikokikz_RPG Před 24 dny

    I liked and subscriberd because of this: 11:57

  • @svgkaos7826
    @svgkaos7826 Před 25 dny

    Double defence components are so good

    • @killersniper7267
      @killersniper7267 Před 24 dny

      Yes or defense and hp ones are fantastic shield is really not worth it

  • @FlaviaPitariu
    @FlaviaPitariu Před 9 dny

    I started with viessa and I have no regrets 😂 as solo

  • @svgkaos7826
    @svgkaos7826 Před 25 dny

    I was struggling with pyro yesterday and i mean i got carried through it but after watching a couple videos i know what ive been doing wrong i shouldve leveled 2-3 mods fully for my guns but i was trying to fill every slot and upgrade them all a bit then wondering why i wasnt doing more damage 😂😂😂

    • @killersniper7267
      @killersniper7267 Před 24 dny

      Glad u got carried I breezed thru the game I'm already in hard mode but I was struggling finding good teammates I was fine I did everything possible in my power but my teammates just kept dying

  • @Zeledonom
    @Zeledonom Před 23 dny

    So i'm just going to assume you can't upgrade a reactor's or external components lvl like the weapons which sucks.

  • @terrymcgee6558
    @terrymcgee6558 Před 6 dny

    I hope the NPC guy selling and buying weapons in Albion Falls off the Map W/ No Respawn. I’ve purposefully did missions just to sell guys for like 10million gold. This guys rich because of me but you do get trophies for this hehehe I’m still kinda a winner.

  • @Aj8064
    @Aj8064 Před 6 dny

    For the love of God, pick viessa as a starting character. At some point your going to want void shards and your going to need ice and electricity to farm them efficiently on har mode .. bunny covers the electricity.

  • @Gabriel3Gamu
    @Gabriel3Gamu Před 26 dny +50

    I hope you stick with the game It is fun I like the gameplay better than Warframe

    • @gggggggggg44100
      @gggggggggg44100 Před 26 dny +8

      @Gabriel3Gamu may I ask why warframe is probably my main looter shooter I've been enjoying this game too, though there are things that feel like they need fleshed out to me though for sure for first descent.

    • @Gabriel3Gamu
      @Gabriel3Gamu Před 26 dny

      @@gggggggggg44100 for sure a lot of quality of life improvements and simplification of menus. I enjoy the shooting more than the hack and slash. I also got into toooo late for warframe. At least for this game we are all learning together

    • @RedS0L0
      @RedS0L0 Před 26 dny +9

      @@Gabriel3Gamu for me I like the gameplay more then destiny
      But the u.i and the way the game handles as a whole I think is better then Warframe
      I will say though my only complaints are extremely fixable
      They need to fix the English dubbing
      And I can't stand my character running at 30fps
      When the background is 60fps in the main hub

    • @Febrezeaire
      @Febrezeaire Před 25 dny +9

      @@gggggggggg44100 imho the macrotransactions are too much. 1200 for a "orokin catalyst" is a fuckload

    • @manofculture8225
      @manofculture8225 Před 25 dny +4

      @Gabriel3Gamu I have been enjoying it. For me it's movement is janky, the micro transactions are way to steep. Game is fun but i worry what the end game will be. Warframe is pretty fair for a free game. I can't speak on destiny as I do not play it. Hope to see you all on the grind. Gonna at least finish the story and some end game before I cast to much judgment

  • @DugOutDuo
    @DugOutDuo Před 25 dny

    You gotta keep playing this my guy… I never played a game like this but holy 💩 it’s amazing and fun and it’s free!!!

  • @gregvfx1
    @gregvfx1 Před 25 dny

    Basically Warframe, from Mods and matching mod symbols with mod slot symbols, Mastery, pay to speed up research, etc. Almost a 1:1 copy (not a bad thing...do what has been working for Warframe)

    • @kingcurmudgeon8685
      @kingcurmudgeon8685 Před 23 dny

      The amount of theft is insane. Common from Korean devs though. I actually would consider a lawsuit if I was DE. It’s that bad

  • @kingcurmudgeon8685
    @kingcurmudgeon8685 Před 23 dny

    They need to address ammo economy, difficulty spikes and XP grind speed. If this game stays like this it will last 6 months. A ton of potential but it’s showing it’s NEXON foundations.

    • @jaredturner2156
      @jaredturner2156 Před 22 dny

      if you want ammo economy play with a enzo, you will be drowing in heavy ammo

    • @abigwreck
      @abigwreck Před 19 dny

      Realistically, they likely have stuff like that on their road map. Let the OG players spend all their time grinding, then shorten the path to endgame for players who come later.

  • @AbrasivePythonGaming
    @AbrasivePythonGaming Před 20 dny

    The one thing that irritates me with all of the NPC vendor. If you want to call him them, is the training robot. You can't read what he's saying fast enough to have any kind of clue of what you're doing. It's like he's skipping the narrative so you don't have to talk to him

  • @OneKauz
    @OneKauz Před 20 dny

    You forgot the most important decision for picking which charcaters-
    Waifu!

  • @tarique9424
    @tarique9424 Před 26 dny +1

    Dead Bride is the bane of my existence

    • @pico2085
      @pico2085 Před 26 dny

      @@tarique9424 do u need help?

    • @whocaresreallywho2464
      @whocaresreallywho2464 Před 26 dny +1

      I feel you. To many folks charge to close range instead of staying back and using a scout and sniper to destroy her

    • @killersniper7267
      @killersniper7267 Před 24 dny

      ​@@whocaresreallywho2464 I used an smg and lmg and beat her first try without going down it u really just need to look out for her circle thing

  • @graemeorr5884
    @graemeorr5884 Před 25 dny

    I e just started playing it , I'm a warframe player so I'm disappointed with the motility and the grappling hook sucks and so does melee on the 2 characters I've unlocked but the gun play is decent ,pretty much just a copy of Destiny

    • @kingcurmudgeon8685
      @kingcurmudgeon8685 Před 23 dny

      Grappling is complete garbage. Ammo economy is a joke. They don’t have juggler or anything to assure you’re no running around with no ammo. It’s a basic if shooter game design and they don’t have it. Both this issues were brought up to them during beta and they’ve done nothing

  • @woodchopper1752
    @woodchopper1752 Před 20 dny

    do not over look munitions boxes and resource boxes when transitioning through the game , thank me late

    • @Ebontis
      @Ebontis  Před 20 dny

      My current video I’m working on points these two out specifically. Good looking out.

  • @leequesada439
    @leequesada439 Před 26 dny

    Ridge wallets are better wallets.

  • @colebenman8613
    @colebenman8613 Před 26 dny +1

    Like #69 😎

  • @IcyVeinsWithin
    @IcyVeinsWithin Před 25 dny

    Tip#1 Play Warframe

    • @Jerseyboy-qk3en
      @Jerseyboy-qk3en Před 25 dny +1

      Warframe vet and I can't stand that they just keep releasing frames. The game needs some end game content that is difficult. Everything that comes out can be done by noobs. They need to bring raids back.

    • @kurtisdeakin
      @kurtisdeakin Před 25 dny +2

      Tip #0 ignore the comments section. Full of salty copers lol

    • @kingcurmudgeon8685
      @kingcurmudgeon8685 Před 23 dny

      Warframe is certainly better overall. It has been 11 years of the same formula, like Destiny there’s a lot of fatigue from those franchises

  • @COREcasual
    @COREcasual Před 23 dny

    Don't support this anti- consumer garbage. There are so many better games that don't actively make their games worse simply to sell you the fun.

  • @klaffkemark59
    @klaffkemark59 Před 23 dny

    Game is trash
    Cant progress because this guy is way over powered!
    Delete

  • @parzivalplays7403
    @parzivalplays7403 Před 26 dny +1

    Viessa is exactly who I chose.... she is insanely fun... :P and I do a lot solo :p I also play a crap load of Warframe ( and did 8 yrs in destiny ) .... its all about how you set up. :) Viessa is just fine :)

  • @harusen9547
    @harusen9547 Před 6 dny

    bunny solo is the best lmao but yo have 6 lv mastery rank so thats ok knowhing nothing you will learn about this game sooner or later