Mary Anning - Princess of Paleontology - Extra History

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  • 📜 The History of Mary Anning and Birth of Paleontology
    "She sells seashells by the seashore." Many have heard this old English rhyme, but few know the true story of the woman who inspired it. Her name was Mary Anning, and she did much more than sell seashells: she discovered some of the very first dinosaur fossils and laid the groundwork for the brand-new field of paleontology. But she never got credit for her work.
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  • @extrahistory
    @extrahistory  Před 7 lety +1164

    "She sells seashells by the seashore" - and much more than that. Learn the hidden history of Mary Anning, the Princess of Paleontology!
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  • @sanguiniusse434
    @sanguiniusse434 Před 6 lety +1843

    When I took geology this summer I off handedly mentioned Mary Anning in class because I had recently watched this video. My professor didn't know who she was, but at the start of the next class he said he'd done some research and was going to start teaching about her. Thought you guys would be happy to hear that.

    • @mikloscsuvar6097
      @mikloscsuvar6097 Před 4 lety +73

      Very well. Every achievement to its achiever. Not because of feminism but grace and honesty.

    • @thelastpetrolbender2744
      @thelastpetrolbender2744 Před 4 lety +36

      @@mikloscsuvar6097 Agreed, as a pionnering human being

    • @ramenbomberdeluxe4958
      @ramenbomberdeluxe4958 Před 3 lety +29

      @@mikloscsuvar6097 Not that we should devalue feminism and it’s role in ending the oppression of women.

    • @dellaboca9737
      @dellaboca9737 Před 2 lety +11

      @@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 exactly, acknowledging female input is not the issue that keeps us from a pure meritocracy.

    • @LoveBbyJay
      @LoveBbyJay Před 2 lety +2

      Thank you for spreading the knowledge!!! 💖

  • @Rdburnzy
    @Rdburnzy Před 7 lety +640

    The full tongue-twisting rhyme goes like:
    " She sells sea-shells by the sea shore, but the sea-shells that she sells aren't sea-shells for sure! "
    Makes sense now

    • @kenshinrx
      @kenshinrx Před 3 lety +4

      9h really?

    • @janetteruiz9347
      @janetteruiz9347 Před 3 lety +31

      She sells seashells on the seashore
      The shells she sells are seashells, I’m sure
      So if she sells seashells on the seashore
      Then I’m sure she sells seashore shells
      Terry Sullivan’s 1908 tongue twister

  • @lifemythanimations6606
    @lifemythanimations6606 Před 7 lety +695

    "She advances science by the seashore" Is more accurate

    • @robertdicke7249
      @robertdicke7249 Před 4 lety +9

      As in she didnt sell sea shells by the sea shore and was thus this was less accurate? You sir were wrong however well intentioned.

    • @Querian
      @Querian Před 2 lety +2

      @@robertdicke7249 she advanced(selling and finding fossils) by the sea shore. I would say that selling her fossils didn't help her but I would be wrong but still, she did find the fossils by the sea shore.

    • @user-gi8pk9uc7q
      @user-gi8pk9uc7q Před měsícem

      She got treated like an idiot by the scientific community, all male, of course!

  • @svon1
    @svon1 Před 7 lety +679

    Mary Anning: this rock is poop !
    unnamed science guy : how can you tell?
    Mary Anning : trust me ,,i went through enough shit in my life to know that this is poop from a mile away!

  • @erikrallen1230
    @erikrallen1230 Před 7 lety +1816

    It is interesting to think that in a way she still got the last laugh. Even to this day all of us remember the "She sells sea shells" quote, but does anyone honestly recall the names of any of those who stole credit from her? Ironic!

    • @ipadair7345
      @ipadair7345 Před 7 lety +6

      Erik Allen +

    • @VCYT
      @VCYT Před 7 lety +40

      TRUE
      An Darwin outshone his detractors also.

    • @iprobablyforgotsomething
      @iprobablyforgotsomething Před 7 lety +85

      Good point. Now we subscribers will remember the "she" who sells seashells by the seashore, also sold dino bones, with no credit for. You go, Mary.

    • @angelwhispers2060
      @angelwhispers2060 Před 7 lety +5

      Erik Allen good point

    • @bencejuhasz6459
      @bencejuhasz6459 Před 7 lety +7

      I could do that,but I will be a paleontologist sooner or later,so that would be cheating ;)

  • @timothymclean
    @timothymclean Před 7 lety +1808

    "She sells seashells that she found while looking for fascinating reptiles from an antediluvian era" just doesn't roll off the tongue, does it?

  • @Alynnaeva
    @Alynnaeva Před 7 lety +330

    As a geology major - she gets the credit now - just in case anyone was wondering. We discussed her and her finds for about 4 hours in class - then contrasted it with the other major names in geology. Mary Anning is the mother of paleontology, and without her contributions, even things like plate tectonics, the rise and fall of oceans, would have taken much longer to finally become accepted. Her fossils, especially the smaller common ones have been used in age dating of rocks, and piecing together the puzzle of Pangaea.
    The same fossils found on multiple continents is very key evidence in tectonic drift.
    Its just a shame she isn't recognized more in the overall females in science in history not getting the credit she deserves.

    • @tenjenk
      @tenjenk Před 5 lety +17

      People often ask why its important who got credit as long as the knowledge is out there. It is HELLA important because you get to find out the real processes they carried out. They performed the actual work, not the other guys so you get important clues and info about their work ethic and techniques. The idiots who took credit would often miss crucial bits of info or make glaring errors because they weren't involved in the practicals.

    • @cferracini
      @cferracini Před 5 lety +2

      Thank you for clearing that out. I was indeed wondering

  • @YaakovEzraAmiChi
    @YaakovEzraAmiChi Před 2 lety +69

    I wonder how many other women, brightest academics and inventors, philosophers and educators have been ignored and lost to history. In glad Mary didn't completely get lost. ❤️

    • @alexanderkidonakis9185
      @alexanderkidonakis9185 Před 11 měsíci +1

      It was just this one

    • @Ornitholestes1
      @Ornitholestes1 Před měsícem +1

      Mary Anning certainly did not get lost, retrospectively speaking.
      Today every paleontologist recognizes her as one of (if not the) most important contributors to establishing paleontology as a scientific discipline. There are many important early paleontologisrs, but, maybe leaving aside Darwin, it's hard to think of a single person who has had more of an impact on the science than her, and only a handful (Steno, Cuvier, Mantell, Owen, Huxley, Romer, Gould, Ostrom) even come close.
      That being said, of course it is very unfortunate she never received the recognition or respect she deserved during her lifetime. This is something commonly claimed about important historic personalities in the arts or sciences (the "misunderstood genius archetype", often asserted incorrectly, e.g. for Mozart who actually received a lot of fame and success in his lifetime), but in the case of Anning it's sadly true.

  • @Cometstarlight
    @Cometstarlight Před 7 lety +2739

    Wow, I didn't even know there was a real woman behind that old rhyme. I can't believe I've never heard of her! Thanks for bringing us another one shot of someone's incredible story!

    • @namingisdifficult408
      @namingisdifficult408 Před 7 lety +12

      Cometstarlight same

    • @MenkoDany
      @MenkoDany Před 7 lety +15

      We were taught about her in school... But I had no idea she was selling them because it was her source of income

    • @oldlyswansea
      @oldlyswansea Před 7 lety +7

      Holy shit lol i didn't know that

    • @DavidChipman
      @DavidChipman Před 7 lety +8

      Not really...

    • @DanteTorn
      @DanteTorn Před 7 lety +9

      I actually did learn about this in school. Bearing in mind that I live in the UK.
      So she's not entirely nameless.

  • @allegedman
    @allegedman Před 7 lety +526

    "The hunt for poop"
    i'm sorry, this had me giggleing uncontrollably

    • @VCYT
      @VCYT Před 7 lety +21

      After she found a tons worth - she was promoted to the poop-deck.

    • @kevinmalone27
      @kevinmalone27 Před 6 lety +1

      giggling*

    • @cindchan
      @cindchan Před 6 lety

      You weren't the only one.

    • @okrish_
      @okrish_ Před 5 lety +1

      Their Proud and noble poop, had become rock poop. WITH POOP IN HAND. xD

  • @aidenwhitehead7018
    @aidenwhitehead7018 Před 6 lety +158

    That beach is called Lyme Regis, I’ve been there! Once again the artists have done an incredible job in attention to detail here, they could’ve drawn a picture of any old beach but I can tell they’ve put in the effort of finding reference pictures of that exact beach.
    It’s also worth mentioning she has a statue in her name by the beach where fossil collectors still gather before journeying across the rocks. It gives a perfect view of the beach and is likely the spot the reference images were taken, so in some of these shots the viewer would be standing right where the statue is!
    It’s a shame this video is so old it’s unlikely they’ll sea this comment, but I hope anyone reading this appreciates this channel even more.

  • @myownmeadow1320
    @myownmeadow1320 Před 4 lety +80

    “OMG!!! A FLYING LIZARD thing... OR a sea MONSTER!”
    Mary: “Its a fish...”
    4 Years later...
    “Ya, it’s just a fish...”

  • @eventyraren
    @eventyraren Před 7 lety +852

    this should be a movie

    • @henrikmunkmadsen3190
      @henrikmunkmadsen3190 Před 7 lety +9

      +Archduke Franz Ferdinand Wow, chill.

    • @Bird_Dog00
      @Bird_Dog00 Před 7 lety +40

      For someone, who drove through a hostile city without escort, just hours after having survived an assassination attempt in the very same city, you are pretty quick to call someone else a dumbass...

    • @henrikmunkmadsen3190
      @henrikmunkmadsen3190 Před 7 lety +5

      +Eragur Wow, it took me a good 30 sec to get that. Good one :)

    • @duckgoesquack4514
      @duckgoesquack4514 Před 7 lety +2

      looks like someone deleted there comment... what did he say?

    • @kappakiev9672
      @kappakiev9672 Před 7 lety +1

      eventyraren The Hunt for Poop starring Meryl Street

  • @aidenlosh9518
    @aidenlosh9518 Před 7 lety +123

    My fossils bring all the boys to the yard
    and they're like:
    "You still can't join the Geological Society of London"

  • @tommykaung5882
    @tommykaung5882 Před 2 lety +27

    Welcome to Chaldea, Riyo Lancer.

  • @Leukavia
    @Leukavia Před 7 lety +16

    I stumbled across this woman's story from the Rejected Princesses artists who catalogue interesting women of the past and found her story tragic but Mary herself to be an amazingly determined woman.
    I'm very happy to see you guys cover her story as well, this woman deserves a lot more respect then she was ever given in life :)

  • @FelixIakhos
    @FelixIakhos Před 7 lety +579

    She surely needed... B) extra credit.

    • @FelixIakhos
      @FelixIakhos Před 7 lety +37

      A valid criticism which I immediately adressed

    • @Madhattersinjeans
      @Madhattersinjeans Před 7 lety +5

      Patrolling the mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

    • @Terry-Tuna
      @Terry-Tuna Před 6 lety

      +Mad Hatters in jeans
      What?

    • @NightWatchersPet
      @NightWatchersPet Před 6 lety

      Winding Bubble it's from Fall Out: New Vegas, also made by Bethesda

    • @SilentGlaceon94
      @SilentGlaceon94 Před 5 lety +1

      YEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

  • @Frank_havre_creation
    @Frank_havre_creation Před 7 lety +325

    This is a wonderfull story that, once again, show how devoted people can sometime be overshadowed by greedy people that crave for fame and money. Long may Mary Anning live in our mind. Thank you Extra Credits for this wonderfull video, once again!

    • @rodrigorebollos
      @rodrigorebollos Před 6 lety +3

      François Perreault Who lives who dies who tells your story.... Extra History apparently :0

  • @woodinco3038
    @woodinco3038 Před 7 lety +57

    It will never cease to amaze me how women did amazing things back in a time when, men dominated all scientific fields. Good for Mary Anning we owe so much to you

  • @ErynnSchwellinger
    @ErynnSchwellinger Před 2 lety +10

    I will never not be pissy about how little recognition Anning received.

  • @Zakanuva
    @Zakanuva Před 7 lety +207

    In the words of Ned Kelly, "Such is life."

  • @TheMetakev
    @TheMetakev Před 7 lety +768

    that moment in history where somebody would use actual shit for their scientific investigation.

    • @YohnTheViking
      @YohnTheViking Před 7 lety +51

      Still happens. Ever heard of the gut microbiome? What do you think is the easiest way to sample it?

    • @armorsmith43
      @armorsmith43 Před 7 lety +46

      Shit is pretty important. After all: everyone poops.

    • @heyobeo
      @heyobeo Před 7 lety +17

      Actually, $&*% is still pretty important to paleontology today. After all, it's the main method we use to determine what those creatures ate. ;)

    • @Armendicus
      @Armendicus Před 7 lety +1

      we still do.

    • @VCYT
      @VCYT Před 7 lety +1

      Without shit we wouldn't have Islam - which why no one wants to be around it.

  • @vinetu73
    @vinetu73 Před 7 lety +178

    Why are all the cool yet unpopular women in history named Mary?

    • @LathosZan
      @LathosZan Před 7 lety +23

      Bisera G. It is the most common name for women.

    • @vinetu73
      @vinetu73 Před 7 lety +4

      Huh, I didn't know that. You learn new things every day.

    • @ZenoDLC
      @ZenoDLC Před 7 lety +30

      You can thank Christianity for that popularity

    • @Phoenix_The_HeroHater
      @Phoenix_The_HeroHater Před 4 lety +1

      Pinkslip Of Permission tell that to the queen.I think she begs to disagree

    • @ylstorage7085
      @ylstorage7085 Před 3 lety +2

      well, the most famous "Mary", and very likely ficticous one, did give birth to the dude that is the LORD.

  • @WoobooRidesAgain
    @WoobooRidesAgain Před 7 lety +27

    As a person who is really into the history of paleontology as well as the science and an equal interest in marine biology, it's really cool to see you guys put a spotlight on Mary and her incredible life. It's always awesome to see you guys cover a topic of my interest.

    • @bencejuhasz6459
      @bencejuhasz6459 Před 7 lety +2

      The Dinosaur Hunters: A True Story of Scientific Rivalry and the Discovery of the Prehistoric World-written by Deborah Cadbury.

  • @hazzer2012
    @hazzer2012 Před 7 lety +458

    that's fucked up. she needs a Nobel Prize in here name

    • @petercahill6696
      @petercahill6696 Před 7 lety +40

      crowxo The Nobel Prize came well after she died.

    • @TheStaffmaster
      @TheStaffmaster Před 7 lety +44

      Nobel prizes are not awarded posthumously.

    • @jts1702a
      @jts1702a Před 7 lety +27

      Her life and contribution precedes the Nobel Prize.

    • @LordChesalot
      @LordChesalot Před 7 lety +13

      crowxo there's at least a museum in her name in her town but it is traversty that she was uncredited for the simple she was low class and a woman

    • @haidbz
      @haidbz Před 7 lety +8

      I want to give you a thumbs up, good sir, but... the grammar nazi in me won't let me. :(

  • @iainmcdonalds4018
    @iainmcdonalds4018 Před 7 lety +561

    Thanks Extra History, I'm glad you did this as frankly I would never have known about Mary Anning.
    And now I'm *really* angry. I know I shouldn't judge people in the past from today's standard, but I'm having trouble not doing that.

    • @Jaegerrants
      @Jaegerrants Před 7 lety +43

      If we dig deep enough you'll find that some one some where took credit of another ones work, be it man or womans, Right conections and money could buy you the fame everlasting. Hell there are inventions that some one else invented but didn't Patent it before the other guy.
      The lesson, people are assholes.

    • @iainmcdonalds4018
      @iainmcdonalds4018 Před 7 lety +42

      *cough cough* Edison *cough*.
      And yes, I'm fairly sure that many of my thoughts and opinions will be seen as unbelievable backward and ignorant in times to come. All I can do is recognise that as a single human, I am likely wrong, and seek to be better. Not much, but a small comfort nonetheless.

    • @tesnacloud
      @tesnacloud Před 7 lety +4

      Iain McDonald's the hope that people will become better than we are currently is small to you? It's all that keeps me going. Plus, as long as you are aware of the framework, it is fine to be angry at past injustices. Rape and pillaging used to be considered acceptable acts in war, and we must look upon those who committed these acts with some tolerance, but that doesn't mean we claim they were not guilty of crimes and atrocities.

    • @VCYT
      @VCYT Před 7 lety +4

      Women didn't get the vote in Britain till 1916 - that's before other nations.
      Working-class men, the majority, an my ancestors couldn't vote till 1860.
      Most folks in America couldn't vote either like women an native Indians etc
      It was a class thing overall. In muslim nations women are STILL 2nd class.

    • @Alynnaeva
      @Alynnaeva Před 7 lety +22

      Its not just that she was a woman too - she didn't have any scholarship, and because she was a woman, she couldn't get it.
      I wonder too how many incredible finds or inventions we never hear about because it was discovered by someone poor who nobody took seriously because they had no credentials, or it gets sold as a trinket to pay debts.

  • @superdizzy6416
    @superdizzy6416 Před 7 lety +30

    Wow, that's crazy how that old rhyme had so much history behind it!

  • @cassie668
    @cassie668 Před rokem +7

    Another woman to bring up when certain people try to say ‘well, if women have achieved things, why aren’t they well known? It’s just men are better at it being the makers of society.’ Thanks for giving me another name to bring up, I always really appreciate it.

  • @extrahistory
    @extrahistory  Před 7 lety +538

    Don't worry, we didn't forget to finish Ned Kelly's story. Join us next week for the "Lies" episode we know you've been waiting for!

    • @fejfo6559
      @fejfo6559 Před 7 lety +16

      You should have pinned this comment before it got buried...

    • @Carewolf
      @Carewolf Před 7 lety +3

      The lie episode is a lie!

    • @symbioticcoherence8435
      @symbioticcoherence8435 Před 7 lety

      why do you like your own comment? I don't think you need that, do you?

    • @robertwalpole360
      @robertwalpole360 Před 7 lety +1

      Can't wait! ;)

    • @tanukioh
      @tanukioh Před 7 lety

      Extra Credits have you seen the Yellow Sign?

  • @wublesmoop6125
    @wublesmoop6125 Před 7 lety +72

    Huh, so this is where that tongue twister came from, its interesting stuff like this that make me love this channel

  • @grapeshott
    @grapeshott Před 7 lety +15

    As mankind becomes more mature, these names of underrated geniuses, hidden under the debris of history, get excavated.

  • @FiauraTheTankGirlGamer
    @FiauraTheTankGirlGamer Před 7 lety +152

    More please? I Love me some dinosaurs.

    • @bencejuhasz6459
      @bencejuhasz6459 Před 7 lety +2

      The Dinosaur Hunters: A True Story of Scientific Rivalry and the Discovery of the Prehistoric World-written by Deborah Cadbury.

    • @samwelltarly6700
      @samwelltarly6700 Před 6 lety +7

      How about the Bone Wars or the life of Charles Darwin, with special emphasis on the evolutionary/extinction debate with Richard Owen.

    • @Thagomizer
      @Thagomizer Před 6 lety +1

      Darwin had nothing whatsoever to do with the discovery of dinosaurs, and there are literally dozens of other pioneering fossil hunters and paleontologists that could be covered on this topic. William Buckland, Gideon Mantell, Richard Owen, Edward Drinker Cope, Othniel Marsh, Fox, Huxley, Hatcher, Andrews, Osborne, Nopcsa, Lambe . . . the list goes on and on.

    • @samwelltarly6700
      @samwelltarly6700 Před 6 lety +2

      Thagomizer
      Alright, tell me a story about Buckland or Mantell that seems extraordinary enough to be worthy of an extra credits Video.
      Marsh and Cope are the two stars of the Bone-Wars so I don't know why you bothered bringing them up like I did not think of them and Huxley would be part of the Darwin vs. Owen/Creationists story anyway seeing as he was known as Darwin's bulldog.
      Darwin may not have been a palaeontologist as much as a biologist, but looking at how much influence his theory has had on palaeontology and our understanding of the prehistory of the world in General, I'd say that a Video or series on Darwin would be very topical.

    • @Thagomizer
      @Thagomizer Před 6 lety

      The entire process by which Buckland, Mantell, Anning, Cuvier, Owen, and all of their contemporaries made their discoveries and consolidated on them is covered in books like "Dragon Seekers" by Christopher McGowan, and "Terrible Lizard" (I think the UK title is "The Dinosaur Hunters") by Deborah Cadbury. Mantell's story in particular is a tragic one about a man struggling at the bottom of a social hierarchy for recognition (much like Mary Anning) and his bitter feud with Owen that worked to destroy him in the final stages of his life. It's very sad. Owen even dismissed some insights Mantell had on Iguanodon which would not be vindicated until more complete specimens of this animal were discovered in the 1870's. This was a guy consumed by utter passion and obsession. Contrast him with a "Renaissance man" like Buckland, who had a variety of interests.
      There are all sorts of wonderful anecdotes one can tell about Buckland, since the man was a notorious eccentric and by all accounts an extraordinary speaker who loved to play the crowd. He not only ate his way through the entire animal kingdom (he'd regularly invite people into his house for a dinner consisting of panther, crocodile, hedgehog, toasted mice, etc.), but he also supposedly once dined on the mummified heart of Louis XVI for his Christmas dinner. He had a pet bear named Tiglath Pilser, which he brought with him to wine parties, and dressed in a cap and gown (apparently just to fuck with people). Guinea pigs, marmots, ponies, snakes, monkeys, and all other assortments of animals freely roamed his offices and homes. Buckland also made great use of coprolites in reconstructing prehistoric ecosystems. He was also the one who coined the word "coprolite" and published the first papers on the subject. Mary Anning helped him puzzle this one out with ichthyosaur fossils, though he greatly expanded on their use. Ever the empiricist, he used such means of identifying fossil feces (for instance, importing a live hyena, feeding, studying the teeth marks on the bones he gave it, etc.) That hyena was also a pet of his, whom he named Billy. He also discovered the oldest human skeleton in the Great Britain, the "Red Lady of Paviland", which he mistakenly thought dated back to Roman times.
      We could also discuss Buckland's position as an Anglican priest and a pioneering paleontologist (along with many of his contemporaries like Conybeare, Sedgewick, etc.), dedicating and entire video to exploring the relationship between science and religion in the early 19th century, what Creationism meant at this time, and dispelling many misconceptions along the way.

  • @ChristopherBatson
    @ChristopherBatson Před 7 lety +71

    For the incredible amount of work that she did establishing paleontology, it's criminal that this is the first time I've heard of Anning. Another instance of the contributions of women in STEAM fields being ignored. Thanks for bringing her contributions to light.

    • @ChristopherBatson
      @ChristopherBatson Před 7 lety +9

      Well, I'm not sure about the statistics of "university places," but the amount of people in a group working in a field doesn't equate to members of that group being credited for their work. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I would think paleontology would fall under the realm of Earth Science, thus placing it in a STEAM field.

    • @xenoblad
      @xenoblad Před 7 lety +1

      Christopher Batson auto correct screwed you. Your STEM turned to STEAM.

    • @tinnic
      @tinnic Před 7 lety +7

      You just explained what the issue is. There are more female lecturers but educating surly teenagers doesn't win you noble prizes. There have recently been studies published that show that women are often saddled with the unglamorous work of education while the more lucrative work of principle researcher is hoarded by men. Of course, there is an issue about more women than men going to university. But that also has more to do with the fact that men often do not enter certain degrees. Early education, for example, is almost 100% women.
      So if you take ALL university places, in many countries (but not all) there is a gender inequality in favour of women. But STEM fields still generally tend to have a gender disparity in favour of men. Even if those men are taught by women, if and when these men go to do anything outside of being a student, they find that their bosses in both academia and industry are still mostly men.
      Don't get me wrong. There are more complex issues at play today than the more simplistic "women aren't allowed in degree X". I for one went through engineering watching male colleagues who struggled simply drop out of university completely while female colleagues who struggled remain in university but just switch out to other degrees. Because men often didn't want to leave engineering for something like a social science degree. I guess because they didn't perceive it as being "macho" enough or some such nonsense.

    • @Alynnaeva
      @Alynnaeva Před 7 lety +7

      Another wonderful founding STEM lady is Cecilia Helena Payne. She used spectroscopy (looking at what colors are present or missing when light is shone through a prism) to come up with the relative composition of stars, including the idea that our sun, like all other stars is mostly Hydrogen and Helium. She sorted by hand and by eye over a million of different spectroscopy lines of stars, and determined that the color of a star was related to its temperature, and thus its age. The whole reason that stars are given an M, or an O in their classification is because they fell into that slot in her sorting system.
      She at least got her doctorate - but even so was pressured by colleagues to in her own work, discount its validity. 4 years later they decided she was right.

    • @ChristopherBatson
      @ChristopherBatson Před 7 lety +3

      Thank you for sharing! This illustrates why I think it's important to have prominent members/contributors of the scientific community have their efforts recognized - especially women. Until now, it didn't occur to me the amount of factors playing into the classification of stars, but knowing Payne and the factors leading to her contribution has me a lot more interested. From personal experience, the more I look back at history and see how much women and other marginalized people have been ignored despite important work, the more I realize I've only known an incomplete story. I regret not knowing who Payne was until now, but I'm glad you made me aware.

  • @DLiev
    @DLiev Před 7 lety +14

    For what it's worth, I learned about Mary Anning in a 1st year bioloby class. At least some of academia are making efforts to acknowledge her contributions.

  • @craigparrott305
    @craigparrott305 Před 5 lety +3

    I'm using this in my 8th grade science class tomorrow asking students to use the following words correctly in a summary of the video: anatomy, entrepreneur, erosion, evolution, extinct, fossil, paleontology, poop, reptile
    Thank you so much for posting!!! Keep up the exceptional work!!

  • @sy8099
    @sy8099 Před 2 lety +22

    I came here because of Fate/Grand Order
    XD

  • @GeneralLuigiTBC
    @GeneralLuigiTBC Před 7 lety +295

    So would you say you found it fun or awkward to record the section on coprolites?

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  Před 7 lety +202

      I mean. I had fun making Dan say poop that many times. -Soraya

    • @DavidChipman
      @DavidChipman Před 7 lety +35

      Even though Dan's voice is pitched up, you could almost hear his discomfort with saying the word.

    • @LOVEPHOENIXDANCER
      @LOVEPHOENIXDANCER Před 7 lety +17

      yeah it was as fun as him saying nuts

    • @shaunearsom7420
      @shaunearsom7420 Před 7 lety +27

      which is funny, because when I hear his voice at normal pitch, in my brain, I pitch it back up >.>

    • @Alynnaeva
      @Alynnaeva Před 7 lety +2

      Hey hey - coprolites are worth more than gold

  • @Albinojackrussel
    @Albinojackrussel Před 7 lety +37

    I mean, she's probably the only paleontologist I could name, she's moderately famous in hr field

    • @andresbluebird
      @andresbluebird Před 7 lety +8

      Albinojackrussel She is famous now in hindsight. But at the time, she was just a uneducated woman whose only major contribution was selling fossils to the 'real' scientist. She died poor and unrecognized by the scientific community.

    • @hagamapama
      @hagamapama Před 6 lety +8

      That's not true because the men themselves knew how brilliant she was. They published her work in part because parts of the public couldn't accept a woman as an expert, but none of the men themselves were in any doubt of her skill in this new field of science. There's a reason they stepped in to help provide for her after she lost everything.

    • @hagamapama
      @hagamapama Před 6 lety +9

      The reason we know anything at all about Mary Anning is because while these men publically took all the credit, privately were fully willing to recognize the role she played.

  • @artstsym
    @artstsym Před 7 lety +1

    I once won a class debate on the ethical question of selling fossils vs donating them, and Mary's contributions to the birth of modern Paleontology factored very heavily into that. It's one of my proudest school memories, so I can't tell you how happy I am to see you doing an episode on her.

  • @nicnicninc7685
    @nicnicninc7685 Před 3 lety +2

    "She wasn't a lucky bumpkin who..." WELYN APPROVES

  • @Robloxman441
    @Robloxman441 Před 7 lety +145

    wow, this is really interesting.

    • @bencejuhasz6459
      @bencejuhasz6459 Před 7 lety +1

      The Dinosaur Hunters: A True Story of Scientific Rivalry and the Discovery of the Prehistoric World-written by Deborah Cadbury.

    • @burritofilms1714
      @burritofilms1714 Před 6 lety

      lockedinthefridge n

  • @Templarkommando
    @Templarkommando Před 7 lety +150

    IT WAS WALPOLE!!!

    • @robertwalpole360
      @robertwalpole360 Před 7 lety +37

      You rang? ;)

    • @Templarkommando
      @Templarkommando Před 7 lety +23

      You caused the bank collapse didn't you? DIDN'T YOU!?!!!

    • @wojak-sensei6424
      @wojak-sensei6424 Před 7 lety +9

      Walpoe did 9/11
      #BinLadenDidNothingWrong

    • @VCYT
      @VCYT Před 7 lety +1

      He was her fathers prime-minister - the current one is a WOMAN.

    • @robertwalpole360
      @robertwalpole360 Před 7 lety +9

      I'll never tell! Woop, woop, woop, woop!

  • @hitrapperandartistdababy
    @hitrapperandartistdababy Před 5 lety +4

    What a sad tale really, Im glad she atleast today is given some credit for her amazing findings. But she truly deserves more praise and recognition

  • @dinosly2744
    @dinosly2744 Před 7 lety

    Thank you extra credits for shining a light on such an overlooked science, as well as a person who was also overlooked and overshadowed. Great work!

  • @mraj8372
    @mraj8372 Před 7 lety +389

    Extra Credits is LEGIT making significant waves for Feminism and doing it quietly. The healthy good kind, yet another series starting on an incredible woman from history I had never heard of.

    • @karelvansteenhuyse3522
      @karelvansteenhuyse3522 Před 7 lety +26

      Mr Hamilton this isn't a series though.

    • @mraj8372
      @mraj8372 Před 7 lety +11

      karel vansteenhuyse Well fuck

    • @AegixDrakan
      @AegixDrakan Před 7 lety +19

      Yeah this looks to have been one of their one-off videos, given how there hasn't been a Lies episode for Ned Kelly yet. They do those one-shots sometimes.

    • @Chronomaton
      @Chronomaton Před 7 lety +44

      True, but it does still show important figuires from history that people may not know about, women or otherwise, this is a good thing for all.

    • @lois7956
      @lois7956 Před 7 lety +32

      I did History at university and I'm a woman. I find the best way to study feminist history like this is to just report it. Say "they weren't given the proper credit at the time but in recent years, their contributions have been recognised as invaluable" because it recognises that women were given a shitty deal back in the day but also shows how times have changed. A lot of historical channels tend to present people like these in a way that they're still getting screwed over just because you haven't heard of them. As I said, I did History and don't know everything, case in point, I enjoyed the Ned Kelly series because I didn't know about him, I didn't feel bad that I didn't know his life story.
      Love Extra Credits so much

  • @spitfyre8688
    @spitfyre8688 Před 7 lety +19

    I can really appreciate how you added the symbol of the king in yellow in Mary's books. I sorta stopped and took a double take, like, "oh my gosh! Other people know about that book!!!!"

    • @humiecrusher
      @humiecrusher Před 7 lety

      Harry Nunn but the symbol's from the tabletop game...

    • @spitfyre8688
      @spitfyre8688 Před 7 lety

      humiecrusher ....
      (dammit, didn't know about that)

  • @jdzencelowcz
    @jdzencelowcz Před 3 lety +4

    Wish Anning could get an honorary paleo degree, I think she earned it.

  • @Duskraven377
    @Duskraven377 Před 7 lety +6

    "Striding mightily with poop in hand" needs to be on a shirt somewhere

  • @leguan278
    @leguan278 Před 7 lety +12

    Someone need to make this a movie...

  • @mertbaysal3880
    @mertbaysal3880 Před 7 lety +135

    i wached this video 50 seconds after it was uploaded... i am proud of my lifelessness

    • @parikshithegde1313
      @parikshithegde1313 Před 7 lety +52

      No be proud of you insatiable desire to learn more.

    • @iprobablyforgotsomething
      @iprobablyforgotsomething Před 7 lety +5

      *clap clap clap* Good job on perspective-shifting! I'm not life-less, I'm an avid learner. It's like, I'm not a janitor, I'm a Hygiene Maintenance Engineer. It's all in how you look at it, eh? (not hating on janitors, I've been one.)

    • @01ZombieMoses10
      @01ZombieMoses10 Před 7 lety +1

      +R MH That's 'Lead Facilities Maintenance Technician' to you.

  • @daftpatience
    @daftpatience Před 7 lety

    sooo incredibly happy to see an extra history covering Mary Anning!!!

  • @Joonesque
    @Joonesque Před 6 lety

    I’m a history teacher and I always show my students these videos! They love them and they learn a lot! Keep up the good work!

  • @nihad7147
    @nihad7147 Před 7 lety +12

    These episodes made me love history

  • @jackmyers8687
    @jackmyers8687 Před 3 lety

    One of my heroes since childhood. Her and Dr Mantel created the whole field. Bravo sir for giving this wonderful woman so much needed love. Bravo!

  • @Coryn02
    @Coryn02 Před 7 lety

    Oh my God. Finally, a palaeontology video! Thank you, Extra Credits. Mary Anning is certainly a crucial figure in the history of the study, glad you took the time for her sake.

  • @alfonzoginibi9513
    @alfonzoginibi9513 Před 7 lety +6

    Astounded as always! You guys are great. You bring history to life in a heartwarming and entertaining way. I've learned a whole lot from you guys, and I hope I continue to do so! Keep up the great work!

  • @GDGdinoX
    @GDGdinoX Před 7 lety +31

    I see paleontology, I click. Enough said.

  • @ebonyblack4563
    @ebonyblack4563 Před 3 lety

    Yet again I've linked this video in hopes of bringing more to the channel. I always love these history profiles, and they're so great for families who are suddenly trying to teach history at home on their own.

  • @OfficerCharon
    @OfficerCharon Před 7 lety

    I vaguely remember reading about her when I had my paleontology craze as a child. But her story is definitely one that should be shared - especially given how much of her work was co-opted.
    Thank you for telling it, and educating us all.

  • @pr0grammcsynth797
    @pr0grammcsynth797 Před 7 lety +6

    That... was heart breaking.

  • @dbrokensoul
    @dbrokensoul Před 7 lety +8

    "Um, yeah that was a fish"
    That got me laughing XD

  • @TR-qp6co
    @TR-qp6co Před 6 lety +2

    I love the King in Yellow symbol, the Yellow Sign, that you stealthily put in, along with the Elder sign.

  • @jeffreybogard2713
    @jeffreybogard2713 Před 7 lety

    I want to say thank you so much for showing me such wonderful history. Especially the histories of remarkable women, that are so often forgotten. Thank you.

  • @monkzez
    @monkzez Před 7 lety +8

    What a beautiful story

    • @monkzez
      @monkzez Před 7 lety +2

      Why? It is slightly sad but that's irrelevant, to simply say a story isn't beautiful because it's sad seems a little silly...

    • @bencejuhasz6459
      @bencejuhasz6459 Před 7 lety

      Here is the long version:
      The Dinosaur Hunters: A True Story of Scientific Rivalry and the Discovery of the Prehistoric World-written by Deborah Cadbury.

  • @Figgy_23
    @Figgy_23 Před 5 lety +7

    You know, throughout the years of studying history on my own, i have found that women have done alot more than school will tell you.

  • @slavsquatsuperstar
    @slavsquatsuperstar Před 5 lety

    Amazing! Keep making videos on these people who go unnoticed!

  • @millie4519
    @millie4519 Před 7 lety

    Thanks for adding so much detail!

  • @edmonddantes3661
    @edmonddantes3661 Před 7 lety +8

    You could make an episode about Croatian-Hungarian hero Nikola Subic Zrinski(Miklos Zrinyi) who died heroicly in the battle of Szigetvar, fighting 50-150 times larger Ottoman force. That was also the last battle that Suleiman was leading.

    • @hagamapama
      @hagamapama Před 6 lety +1

      I'd be interested in seeing them do a story about milunka Savic, the Serbian war hero.

  • @jhonjacson798
    @jhonjacson798 Před 7 lety +31

    I have to ask, if all the men took credit for her discoveries, then how do we know they are her discoveries? I mean there's got to be evidence right? Do we have records of purchase or something?

    • @LordChesalot
      @LordChesalot Před 7 lety +12

      jhon jacson newspaper articles i imagine and advertisement by Mary's part for her business

    • @LordChesalot
      @LordChesalot Před 7 lety +23

      jhon jacson also i imagine everyone knew and wrote the finds came from Mary but wrote her off as uneducated women making a living not the scientist and mind she was

    • @bencejuhasz6459
      @bencejuhasz6459 Před 7 lety +4

      Here is a book for you:
      The Dinosaur Hunters: A True Story of Scientific Rivalry and the Discovery of the Prehistoric World-written by Deborah Cadbury.
      I probably even have it a pdf,if you are interested.

    • @jhonjacson798
      @jhonjacson798 Před 7 lety +1

      oh boy, thanks for the recomendation but I'm plowing through enough books at the moment, I got alot on the backburner.

    • @bencejuhasz6459
      @bencejuhasz6459 Před 7 lety

      Yeah,me too.Right now I will die by exams or choose other exams as a form of suicide.
      But if you want it,just say the word,I can send the pdf to you.
      Have a nice day.

  • @aidanmorrow3321
    @aidanmorrow3321 Před 6 lety

    Its great that channels like this give credit to these people.

  • @freeNode5
    @freeNode5 Před 7 lety

    wow! I absolutely love the way you guys present this stuff

  • @ryanbeyer09
    @ryanbeyer09 Před 7 lety +45

    3:56 has the sign of hastur on the top book

    • @SoulOfTheReaver
      @SoulOfTheReaver Před 7 lety +3

      And the Elder Sign at 5:40

    • @heyobeo
      @heyobeo Před 7 lety +1

      Let's hope that symbol doesn't appear two more times...

    • @robertban871
      @robertban871 Před 7 lety +1

      holy crap i didnt see that the first time! the yellow sign and the elder sign :D i did take note of Cthulhu flying along, but it was hard to miss that one.

  • @KingofOrono
    @KingofOrono Před 5 lety +6

    Her life was the real A Series of Unfortunate Events.

  • @ianwojcik1191
    @ianwojcik1191 Před 7 lety

    Stories like this are why I LOVE Extra History, amazing people who don't get the credit they deserve at least getting a little recognition a long time later

  • @prince_nocturne
    @prince_nocturne Před 7 lety

    I had no idea that the little rhyme had THAT history behind it. That's amazing. This is why I love this channel and this show. Don't let CZcams's recent idiocy eat you. This show, this channel, you people MUST survive!

  • @shotoa2088
    @shotoa2088 Před 7 lety +24

    Was that one of Lovecraft's weird symbols/runes on one of those books? If so that is amazing attention to detail.

    • @RoboBoddicker
      @RoboBoddicker Před 7 lety +1

      Shoto A Yeah. i thought i was clever, but ittur s out Im like the 500th person to notice :D

    • @HazeTheCreator
      @HazeTheCreator Před 6 lety +1

      Yeah, it's the Yellow Sign from Robert Chambers' "The King in Yellow," a precursor to Lovecraft's work

  • @dotter8
    @dotter8 Před 7 lety +3

    She sells sea shells by the sea shore.
    These shells that she sells are sea shells, I'm sure.
    Her learned customers created paleontology,
    But still, they're merely sea shells that she sells by the sea.
    (Bah!)

  • @achangelingproduction2858

    I've only ever heard of Mary Anning once in my life, from a picture book I read in third grade, which documented the story of her uncovering the ichthyosaur, but that was it, it didn't go into half the amount of detail in this video! Well done!

  • @dandylionwine
    @dandylionwine Před 6 lety

    Mary Anning was one of my childhood heroes. Exceptionally glad to see this from you guys - my inner six-year-old paleontologist wannabe is absolutely giddy. Keep it up!

  • @aniviod2904
    @aniviod2904 Před 7 lety +23

    4:00 o_o THE KING IN YELLOW!!...

  • @iancain7844
    @iancain7844 Před 6 lety +15

    you should do a series on female scientists

  • @Drapsmann-kn2hb
    @Drapsmann-kn2hb Před 6 lety

    As a girl who is desperate to be a palaeontologist when I grow up, I was really excited to find this video. Despite the research I’ve done, I’ve never heard of Mary Anning - so thank you for this great video!

  • @flakmagnetStudios
    @flakmagnetStudios Před 7 lety

    Thanks Extra History for such an interesting historical story. Really enjoyed someone who wasn't involved in war and battles. Hugely interesting.

  • @23.michael18
    @23.michael18 Před 7 lety +10

    5:20:
    She has begun the Quest for....................................................................................................POOP!!
    i died of laughter

    • @23.michael18
      @23.michael18 Před 7 lety +1

      i cant take the rest of the video seriusly come on the quest for poop my god

  • @degenerate3288
    @degenerate3288 Před 6 lety +12

    "Few people know the truth about the ryme"
    246,000 people know the truth
    That's a lot

    • @melody-cn3wk
      @melody-cn3wk Před 3 lety +1

      Compared to the 7 billion world population that’s not a lot

  • @MrZetsu1995
    @MrZetsu1995 Před 6 lety +1

    Gotta say, hats of to the art team on this one. I watched this some months ago and now I found an easter egg. At 4:00 on the top book in the pile, you can see the yellow sign, which is from the Lovecraftian horror book, The King in Yellow written in 1895.

  • @TheKiro5505
    @TheKiro5505 Před 7 lety

    The great thing is that in this day and age more people are learning about her and many other important people forgotten by the past. This is the second CZcams video I've seen about Mary on as many channels in quite a short period.

  • @Dakathi66
    @Dakathi66 Před 7 lety +4

    I love learnin' stuff.

  • @roundishwhale
    @roundishwhale Před 7 lety +25

    3:58 the top book on the pile should better stay unread, If poor Marys sanity is of any concern here.

    • @AegixDrakan
      @AegixDrakan Před 7 lety +6

      :) Where you you think the learned the arcane dark science rituals needed to de-rockify the rock poop?

    • @theokchannel2081
      @theokchannel2081 Před 7 lety +2

      Master of Suicide what is it... the necronomicon?

    • @theokchannel2081
      @theokchannel2081 Před 7 lety

      Никита Егоров you are not wrong

    • @robertban871
      @robertban871 Před 7 lety +1

      theokchannel, its not the Necronomicon, its called The King in Yellow, and it is a french play. no fancy spells or anything like that, just a book that makes anyone who reads beyond the 1st act into a complete psychotic lunatic

    • @wojak-sensei6424
      @wojak-sensei6424 Před 7 lety

      I dunt git et...

  • @TheDarkBrethren
    @TheDarkBrethren Před 7 lety

    A brilliant video, and a great way of showing how many of the humans who make great achievements for humanity are often unrecognised.

  • @erichloehr5992
    @erichloehr5992 Před 6 lety +2

    Yet another meaningless comment, but this woman so impresses me i have to speak. Mary, my hat is off and from the bottom of my heart I salute you and your crazy life & meaningful contribution to the universe. Such devotion and love truly inspires my sad and black soul to reach back for the light.

  • @100nodog
    @100nodog Před 7 lety +4

    okay, actually, this episode is full of Lovecraft's symbolism
    I aplaude you even more so

  • @Sonofkratos13
    @Sonofkratos13 Před 2 lety +4

    Crazy how this got in my recommendeds AFTER FGO

  • @caiobex
    @caiobex Před 7 lety

    This was beautiful and amazing. I loved this!

  • @RaphBlade7
    @RaphBlade7 Před 3 měsíci

    Mary Anning definitely deserves to be remembered as a pioneer that she was instead of just the inspiration of a popular rhythm! It's people like her that the history classes of today need to focus more on!

  • @battlesevengames9479
    @battlesevengames9479 Před 4 lety +4

    “She discovered a pterodactyl” -shows a dimorphidon

  • @ShadowBaron22
    @ShadowBaron22 Před 2 lety +3

    Came back here due to Mary Anning being introduced to FGO... ahhh the memories...

  • @mxsdrago
    @mxsdrago Před 7 lety +1

    The selection of adjectives you used when you were talking about coprolite was just... wow.

  • @johndavis9674
    @johndavis9674 Před 7 lety

    Absolutely fantastic Extra Credits, you've excelled yourself.
    On a holiday to England, my family and I made a point of visiting Lyme Regis because of Mary Anning's discoveries. Thanks to happy coincidence there was a celebration of her life going on when we visited. It was fantastic to find out so much about her, and her rather tragic life. She was very much the Mother of Paleontology.
    The wonderful children's book "The Usbourne Book of Dinosaurs" had a call out and small article about her.

    • @bencejuhasz6459
      @bencejuhasz6459 Před 7 lety

      It's worth reading on the subject:
      The Dinosaur Hunters: A True Story of Scientific Rivalry and the Discovery of the Prehistoric World-written by Deborah Cadbury.