Actually jo rear the manga just gingka use his fp this time but in first battle gingka didn't even know about him and not series and in manga gingka won 2 times against ryuga
@@smsofficial4809 exactly but still we can say kyoya is still far weaker than gingka and ryuga because gingka last move and ryuga ultimate move but without ultimate move kyoya is close but if you even forget kyoya how people say ryuga no,low,mid diff gingka🤡literally ryuga can't even beat gingka 2 battles are tie 2 battle ryuga get defeated and 1 battle only won against gingka
This is why I honestly did not like gingka as a main character, you rarely see him ever actually train and he isn’t as hungry for victory as say Ryuga or Kyoya but still manages to win all the time. He doesn’t have any character development, it’s just “bladder spirit” and he gets saved by plot armor.
@@ashodmiah7924 watched some episodes from the old series but not from start to finish or anything. Tyson definitely seems like a better overall main Character from what I’ve watched. Have not watched beyblade burst. I get it’s a kids show and Gingka is supposed to be a baby face but what does he actually learn or how does his personality change from the first to last episode?! It doesn’t! It’s just “I will win for my friends” and “bladder spirit” bullshit
@@RMor66 I understand why people wouldn't like him, but I don't think it's right to say he got ZERO adversity. After all, he lost really badly to Ryuga in their first battle not to mention he also lost to Yu. And let's not forget how he lost to Phoenix as he would lose all of his points. So I do think he did have obstacles though maybe not as many as he really should have.
@@Heat7208 Part of that may have to do with the fact that Gingka is on screen every episode compared to Kyoya. So the chances of him possibly losing are much higher.
He is seen in the last ep of Shogun Steel apparently but that could’ve just been a reference to him and not a serious “canon” appearance unless you want to see it that way
Ryuga trains himself rather than training the bey. Every time a beyblade evolves ryuga takes time to master unlike gingka who needs a separate episode for mastering pegusus.
@@blackdivinity3765 you couldn’t have it you saying the GOD of destruction beat ryuga when I literally said in my opinion nobody is stronger than ryuga WITHOUT BEING A LITERAL GOD I put it in caps for a reason. I just said if they not a God like Rago then I don’t think they stronger
@@bangmanjae9024 but funny thing is God of destruction was not a god because a god does not lose and gingka beat him and ryuga couldn’t so that would make gingka higher in power then ryuga so there is one person stronger then ryuga its gingka
it seems like ryuga didn't have enough experience with meteo Ldrago while helios did have lots of experience with his bey, that is the most likely reason the match ended up in a tie and as we see later when ryuga battles gingka before he faces gravity destroyer, that one needs to become one with their bay, he also says something similar in the 3rd season to gingka during the volacano battle, at both of the times we seeryuga barely breaking a sweat while battling gingka, apart from that we also see a ryuga whose more experienced with meteo Ldrago or in other words has become one with it taking down an entire flying city in the season finale without breaking a sweat so I think if this version of ryuga batlled helios he'd surely win
Nah, Helios isn't even close tbh... Ryuga has more and crazier feats than Helios and has a legendary mentality, power, discipline, etc. He is the ultimate blader weilding the ultimate bey.
I would say Ryuga is way stronger, since it took Lightning to tie in the manga and lightning is a baby compared to Meteor and Destroy. He would destroy Helios.
Imagine if Ryuga was reintroduced in Metal Masters with Meteo L-Drago earlier and he made an team formed by himself, Helios, Hyoma and Kenta to compete in the World Championship!
I think Ryuga wasn’t at his best yet, given his bey evolved mid-battle and he still barely knew everything about his new abilities (but that’s just my perspective). Also Gingka beat Helios using Galaxy Nova, the very same special move he used to defeat Ryuga in the Metal Fusion finale Great video!
While Helios and Sol Blaze did tie against Ryuga and Meteo L-Drago, I still think that Ryuga is the stronger blader. Helios is still a blader close to Ryuga's level. Also, I don't think that the metal fight beyblade movie is canon to the metal fight beyblade anime. The evolution of L-Drago is shown differently in the anime than in the manga tie-in to the movie. Plus, Gingka and the rest of team Gan Gan Galaxy were in the middle of the beyblade world championships. So, there's not a chance for the events of the movie to coincide with the events of the anime.
Y’all gotta think about it he’s no where near ryuga (L DRAGO DESTRUCTOR) and he fought lighting L drago and L drago destructor is 10000000x stronger than lighting L drago if he can tie with L drago Destructor I’ll say he’s equal but until then he may be extremely strong but he’s not stronger or as strong as ryuga
Speaking of Helios and Poseidon Beyblades , I find it funny that Kyoya defeated 3 major Greek deities : Zeus(I forgot the name of that legendary blader) , Poseidon and Hades (it was his dog tho).
Ginga beat Helios because he use Galaxy Nova special move. That is his stongest move. Idk why somehow he not using that move at first battle. He only use that move 3 times, when defeating Ryuga at battle bladers final, defeating Helios, and defeating Doji at Zero-G/Shogun Steel.
He used a similar move against Gravity Destroyer and Hades Kerbecs called Star Dust Driver where he also flies into space makes a Galaxy and draws power from it so it’s basically the same move but for Galaxy Pegasus, Cosmic Tornado and Cosmic Nova and Super Cosmic Nova are more powerful attacks from Cosmic/Big Bang Pegasus.
Honestly, i feel like that's the main reason why they excluded Ryuga from the movie, because he would've gave Helios a run for his money. Ryuga has always been that dude.
To be fair Gingka in the first battle used only storm booster attack, while in the final battle used and storm Bridger and galaxy nova ( which was the move that deafet el drago ) so i think Gingka was really the strongest
Galaxy Pegasus never surpassed L-Drago it’s very clear by the fact Twisted Tempo overpowered him yet L-Drago broke through his special move and weakened Twisted Tempo by accident easily. Galaxy Pegasus was able to absorb the power of both Pegasus and L-Drago at least the levels they showed off in the finals as it was based off of that so he surpassed that yet not Ryuga completely as he said he did not show his true power.
I would still lean towards Ryuga because he wouldn’t have mastered L-Drago yet and just unlocking his special move only to still master it. Just like Ryuga said. (You’re fool for someone who hasn’t mastered is own bay yet)
I dont believe helios would win against L-Drago considering the gimmick at the time was the rubber coated energy ring granting it complete and total immunity to all physical attacks from right spinning beys. Unless blaze execution functions by creating an outward blast of heat to blow away opponents without needing to physically make contact with the opposing bey then L-Drago would simply grow stronger throughout the battle while helios weakens from the physical contact with L-Dragos rubber
I remember watching the movie over and over on the tape recorder as a kid, drawing the face bolt of Sol Blaze and sticking it to my Cyclone Herculeo so I can rp Helios, best days of my life
@@user-sw1rl5dx1u Helios is a sun god, but it entirely depends on which era of Greek mythology you tie him to. Overly Sarcastic Productions did a good video recently going over Helios' & Artemis' history.
Bro Rago could control and absorb them, Ryuga could never control that power. He would loose to Diablo Nemesis or you wanna compare PROTOTYPE to literal EBOLUTION? Allow me to remind you Rago could control power while Ryuga could never control 9 fragments so they were not close. Stop cap
Either compare Diablo Nemesis revived with L Drago or compare prototype to prototype. You cant compare prototype to full power. That is like if I compared myself to baby Mike Tyson and said that I was stronger. Your logic is if Rago was not Rago or if he was weaker. Like if I said if Ryuga used plastical bey
Ryuga still wins... In metal masters ryuga wasn't just the strongest, he was able to 1 shot everyone, ginka wouldn't even dare to clash him nad let's not forget: ryuga no diffed Jack, who was on similar power level to Damian and Ginka EXTREME diffed Damian, which means that Ryuga would probably mid diff metal masters Ginka and probably High diff AT BEST Helios
This video just brought back some long-buried core memories, and I'm not complaining at all. Ryuga was my very first fictional crush, and to be honest, I'd choose him over Gojo or anyone else without a second thought.
Helios is strong blader but ryugaa 🔥🗿 bro like he became god like blader in the ending of metal Saga and ryuga never used of his half persent of power still unbeatable in my and with over million of fan opinion ryuga is most badasssss character in beyblade
@@Harri378no anime ryuga is stronger in my opinion because in manga ryuga had so many ties with and in anime ryuga literally crushes gingka with a little struggle every time they battled
Damn i did not know a movie existed DAMNNNNN. But but let me speak as a Ryuga fan, Helios would get one shotted by Ryuga's life destructor. But I acknowledge that helios tied with Ryuga at that point in time.
if they made an english version, more people would know about it (the movie, it never got an english adaptation). Helios is also one of my favorite characters, and I plan to bring him back for my own series that im working on, its a continuation of metal fury, in between shogun steel. Also gonna find a way to bring back ldrago cuz thatd be freaking cool. If u wanna know more lmk cuz I love coming up with ideas and talking about them with other beyblade fans. :)
In my opinion kyoya try his hardest to beat ginkga over the years this dude Helios comes out of nowhere beats ginkga in a way fans never seen ginkga lose before that has to get kyoya fans piss off and Helios should've been a legendary blader in my opinion him going toe to toe with ryuga is enough 😂
Gingka beat Helios because he was more well prepared this time around, took Helios seriously from the start and used special move acter special move to win. In the first fight he was caught off guard and overwhelmed
ngl but no one is on ryuga's level he trained in a volcane to get stronger to get control over L-Drago. Ginga was on a lower level and helios is good but not that good as ryuga. The Dragon Emperor is the best always and 4 ever in our heart!
I think if we are taking anime continuity I think he is probably Kyoya/Gingka tier. End of masters Kyoya had that dog in him, he beat a Damien that was stronger then the Damien that fought Gingka and was said to get an arrangement based on Gingka’s data putting him above even Gingka during the final battle. Helios casually destroying everyone in a battle was cool but Damien was doing that to people stronger then the people Helios battled. Tho I do believe Helios beats Damien, I think Kyoya would probably be able to beat Helios as he is a more skilled blader and power wise could compete. Even if we want to take the asteroid feat into discussion, Helios needed Gingka to destroy it. Gingka in masters was almost able to absorb the power of the spiral force that could also destroy the planet. Given him and Kyoya were equals at this time with Kyoya actually might being more powerful then Gingka I feel he could do the same feat where if it was Kyoya and Gingka destroying the asteroid they could do it. I would probably give the W to Kyoya but that is a straight 50/50 fight.
@@artix755 in this instance we're not factoring in if he would or not. I'm just wondering what the beys evolution form would look like. I guess it could have two different evolutions , one from corruption and the other from control.
@@glenmcintyre7280you think ryuga can control nemesis power well I think I not that easy because as the other person above you said it is way to corrupted then eldrago so I think no
Don’t forget about Phoenix, he took out the entire Chinese team with Gingka, Masamune, and Kenta at ONCE, he also effortlessly defeated Tsubasa, and he beat Gingka once too
@@peterallotey658you do realize beys and bladers can grow stronger, right? All of them were stronger than Strong Pegasus don’t downplay him just cuz he sneak attacked cuz he would still have to overpower their own power. But Pegasus and others got stronger past that fight too at the end anyways.
This fight also proves that manga ryuga can also make special moves between battles same like gingka as he did when his lightning-l-drago evolves into meteo-l-drago and in an instant ryuga comes up with his new special move dragon emperor supreme fight!!!
If helios fought metal masters Ryuga , then I think Ryuga would easily win. Because in the manga, L drago evolved just then, so obviously he had no time training with meteo L drago, but if Ryuga had time for training, he would've figured out how to use the rubber wheels and the left flat performance tip, which would have made him way way stronger (like he was in the anime while battling Ginga or Jack). And if Helios fought Metal fury Ryuga than it's pretty obvious Ryuga would win as he now has a 4D bey.
While I don't think we can tell for sure, from what we can tell he is probably the closest one to the level of Kyoya, Gingka and Ryuga. From the limited screen time we have of him, he is clearly extremely strong. I think if he actually got a prominent role in fury, then we would know his power for sure.
There is one more guy whose beyblade can literally control space and time. If you know about whom I am talking, Faust and his beyblade twisted tempo. His beyblade is still their somewhere I don't know where but imagine him and helios in the final battle of fury it would have been insane help for others but still things would have went similar to the main story because nemesis had both of their beyblades power as well.
I'm settling this now. Ryuga is physically stronger than Gingka Gingkas Blader Spirit is strongers than Ryuga Ryuga, Gingka, and Kyoya are around the same strength and are rivals
Lol not even close, ryuga was on a completely different level to ginka and kyoya once he mastered the dark power. Literally wrecks them and smurfs every fight and literally ginka admits ryuga is the strongest in the world and strongest rival when rago shit talks ryga, ginka respects him for strength that much. Only rago who is a god and the made to be the final villian and ginka with the power of every blader in the world giving him power are stronger then ryuga.
@@larrygamage3001 yes rivals but definitely not the same strength, not even close with ryuga. He smurfed and casually defeated the some of the other legendary beybladers pretty casually.
@@larrygamage3001 later in the series I don't even think ryuga gave a shit about ginka as he already wrecked him casually in their previous battle and was more focused on proving his power against rago to finally prove he is the strongest.
The movie wasn’t as popular as the main series so the writers probably just decided to leave him out so no one would be confused. He’s definitely strong enough though
@@wildfangedits6630 Idk about manga, but at anime, the timeline seems weird. That twin dome tournament take time at summer. And at metal masters timeline, when summer, Gan Gan Galaxy is at the middle of world tournament.
Gingka was defeated pretty badly by Aguma and btw He never actually rematches Aguma either so kinda funny that he literally ended up losing to some bladers in that season and never got pay back
Ngl the Ryuga meatriding in the comments is insane. Also I just wanna say I think Helios is a very underrated character and I think even tho he’s inferior to Ryuga he’d still give him a run for his money
@@SoraFireSoul Ikr. Kai was originally a but beast hunter. Defeating and stealing other beasts. Even in the metal series not everyone has a beast in their bey but it is not acknowledged
@@bangabir2763 true but it was more common it was not like oh ep 1 u got one I just feel OG gave out the bit beast ( that what I calling it no matter what in metal way to much but I do love the metal seson after that it went down hill I did like bust but I did not like all a vault clones lol
@bladererx5 no the wings of Pegasus is what defeats sol blaze no matter what gingka is bound to win sol blaze would destroy anyone else except ryuga who he drew with
@@Dysfunctional704 He put up a great fight and he did give Kenta his power so they would still win. However all of that could've been avoided if Zeus' Barrier was completed the first time.
I think Helios is stronger than everyone in the world championships excluding Gingka (and maybe Kyoya). We cant say much about Ryuga since L-Drago had newly evolved, hence Ryuga hadnt mastered it at the time (and the Manga is different to the anime even in terms of power.) 3:23 Gingka had to use his strongest special move (Galaxy Nova). He's only ever pulled it out in the biggest battles (Ryuga controlled by L-Drago and Rago).
@@SpiritedFalcon Ginga used super cosmic nova to defeat Rago, it is a completely different move, combined with the power of all legendary bladers in the world, I talk about galaxy nova which is levels weeker than life distructor
Thanks. It was never fully translated to English but I think some fans have translated some of it. Here’s how I’ve seen it: mfbmanga.jax.fyi and instagram.com/tatale7228?igshid=6ibvm3rlgplr
a blader i think deserves the chance to battle ryuga, is Damian. Both Gingka and Kyoya were able to beat Damian, but with EXTREMELY high diff. Ryuga should beat him with mid-high diff. also if Damian and Helios were to fight, Id say helios would win due to the fact that helios actually beat gingka which damian hasnt, but it would be extreme high diff.
ryuga almost defeated Rago in the battle but Rago had absorbed the power of a lot of other beyblades and in the end he also absorbed L-drago and used it against Ryuga. If it weren't the case I think Ryuga would have won it
mentioning how Gingka won the battle in the end was kinda lame, guess considering that the movie is considered Canon, they couldn't have Pegasus have something like a upgrade in a form of a recolour or something.
@Wildfang Edits while helios is impressive he only was able to match meteo L drago and we know L drago destructor was much more powerful than meteo. And based on the fact that we know that helios wasn't a legend blader his Bey didn't get a star fragment boost so ryuga if he fought helios again would likely crush him. And I'd put ryuga above gingka even at the end because gingka has to rely on others whereas every other time he and ryuga fought ryuga beat him very decisively. He lost to gingka once ginga has like 3 L's lol.
Gingka Beat Helios bc he used galaxy nova in the second battle against him but even with that Helios was holding on with his move and gingka barely won as for Helios vs Ryuga the only reason they tied is bc L drago just evolved into meteo meaning ryuga hadn't mastered it plus Helios was seen immediately having mastered his bey when battling both of them so if ryuga with mastered meteo were to fight him it would end with ryuga winning high diff against him since gingka extreme diffed him and ryuga>gingka in master's so yeah 👍
Ok that makes sense, I guess the confusion for me came from the names of special moves being changed in translation. Like in the dub version gingkas move is Star booster attack but translated from japanese I thinks it’s stargazer
@@wildfangedits6630 true but the dub also just makes small changes like the move going from being called starblast attack to starbooster attack and back to starblast attack in fury unnecessary changes I noticed when watching lol
@@ScarlettTamer it probably was to do with his 4D performance tip when Gingka sets his final drive mode, Storm Pegasus motif appears briefly above Big Bang Pegasus. The tip is RF that Storm Pegasus had, it probably has to do with it hence why Big Bang Pegasus uses Starblast Attack instead of the Starbooster attack that is powered through the R2F tip
This is not all the power of Ryuga, but the other person has a very strong left blaze, a beyblade that is the reincarnation of a god like Nemessis. If L Drago could absorb his power, this means that Rago can also absorb his power. And of course, when it comes to the fight between Ryuga and Helios, let's take L Drago as meteo L Drago and fight with Sol Blaze. Let's fight. Ryuga's supreme flight of the Dragon Emperor did not finish his work, but Ryuga seemed surprised there and was suddenly attacked, and Helios used special moves twice, once in the first clash and the other at the end of the match, and this one special move of Ryuga was compared to two special moves of Helios.
The answer to how Gingka, beat Helios, plot armor. I love Gingka but the dude has some of the most ridiculous plot armor around.
Actually jo rear the manga just gingka use his fp this time but in first battle gingka didn't even know about him and not series and in manga gingka won 2 times against ryuga
You need to read the manga. in the manga this is not plot armor, Ginga is just genuinely overpowered
@@smsofficial4809 thats what gingka beat ryuga even 2 times in manga
@@nightmareofblindfansandhaters yes I agree, unfortunately people meatrider ryuga too much sometimes and never sees Gingka and Kyoya full potential
@@smsofficial4809 exactly but still we can say kyoya is still far weaker than gingka and ryuga because gingka last move and ryuga ultimate move but without ultimate move kyoya is close but if you even forget kyoya how people say ryuga no,low,mid diff gingka🤡literally ryuga can't even beat gingka 2 battles are tie 2 battle ryuga get defeated and 1 battle only won against gingka
Ryuga is in a class by himself
This is why I honestly did not like gingka as a main character, you rarely see him ever actually train and he isn’t as hungry for victory as say Ryuga or Kyoya but still manages to win all the time. He doesn’t have any character development, it’s just “bladder spirit” and he gets saved by plot armor.
How do you feel about Tyson and Valt in comparison? If you watched either series, that is.
@@ashodmiah7924 watched some episodes from the old series but not from start to finish or anything. Tyson definitely seems like a better overall main
Character from what I’ve watched. Have not watched beyblade burst. I get it’s a kids show and Gingka is supposed to be a baby face but what does he actually learn or how does his personality change from the first to last episode?! It doesn’t! It’s just “I will win for my friends” and “bladder spirit” bullshit
@@RMor66 I understand why people wouldn't like him, but I don't think it's right to say he got ZERO adversity. After all, he lost really badly to Ryuga in their first battle not to mention he also lost to Yu. And let's not forget how he lost to Phoenix as he would lose all of his points. So I do think he did have obstacles though maybe not as many as he really should have.
And yet Gingka lost more battles than Kyoya did.
@@Heat7208 Part of that may have to do with the fact that Gingka is on screen every episode compared to Kyoya. So the chances of him possibly losing are much higher.
Don’t forget gingka was actually confirmed holding back in their first battle. Helios even said that.
Sadly Helios only appeared in the movie but not in the series, it would've been cool to have hadded him in the beyblade series
He is seen in the last ep of Shogun Steel apparently but that could’ve just been a reference to him and not a serious “canon” appearance unless you want to see it that way
@@Enerjjak That's only 1 ep and only 1 scene
@@ninjapirate123 Yeah that’s why I phrased it like that
I just restarted the whole metal series and now i’m hearing there’s a movie? 😭 after 8 years?
Wait for real :)
@@ZAND4TSU yeah i’m watching fusion rn and will start with masters as soon as i’m done
@@PradaWyd oh, nice
Ryuga trains himself rather than training the bey.
Every time a beyblade evolves ryuga takes time to master unlike gingka who needs a separate episode for mastering pegusus.
In my Opinion no one is stronger than Ryuga WITHOUT Being a Literal GOD😭😭
God of destruction beat ryuga
@@blackdivinity3765 read
@@bangmanjae9024 I did read but helios is not the only character as strong as ryuga tho
@@blackdivinity3765 you couldn’t have it you saying the GOD of destruction beat ryuga when I literally said in my opinion nobody is stronger than ryuga WITHOUT BEING A LITERAL GOD I put it in caps for a reason. I just said if they not a God like Rago then I don’t think they stronger
@@bangmanjae9024 but funny thing is God of destruction was not a god because a god does not lose and gingka beat him and ryuga couldn’t so that would make gingka higher in power then ryuga so there is one person stronger then ryuga its gingka
I literally only know about this because back in the day when there was a fire ass AMV that I used to watch on repeat 😂
Those Og AMV’s were bangers 😂
it seems like ryuga didn't have enough experience with meteo Ldrago while helios did have lots of experience with his bey, that is the most likely reason the match ended up in a tie and as we see later when ryuga battles gingka before he faces gravity destroyer, that one needs to become one with their bay, he also says something similar in the 3rd season to gingka during the volacano battle, at both of the times we seeryuga barely breaking a sweat while battling gingka, apart from that we also see a ryuga whose more experienced with meteo Ldrago or in other words has become one with it taking down an entire flying city in the season finale without breaking a sweat so I think if this version of ryuga batlled helios he'd surely win
Remember when Ryuga destroyed cities? Case closed.
on the other hand yes he is the closest. just not equal cuz my man is the GOAT and a troll
When i first got sol blaze, I thought it was a legit fake beyblade cuz I had no idea there was a movie lmao
Same I remember seeing it online and thinking it was fake 😂
Nah, Helios isn't even close tbh... Ryuga has more and crazier feats than Helios and has a legendary mentality, power, discipline, etc. He is the ultimate blader weilding the ultimate bey.
Duh he got more feats idiot, he had actual screen time
Helios high diff Ryuga.
@@tennosake320 Calm down.
@@tqtyarien792 Ryuga (Meteo L Drago) mid diffs Helios.
Ryuga (L Drago Destroy) no diffs Helios.
@@Darth_Malgus4627 source : my @ss
I'm surprised Sol Blaze or the movie never got an english dub. Feels totally weird to me
Sol Blaze deserves an evolution in Metal Fury and Shogun Steel and Helios deserves and should have become a legendary blader🔥☀️🔶
I would say Ryuga is way stronger, since it took Lightning to tie in the manga and lightning is a baby compared to Meteor and Destroy. He would destroy Helios.
Imagine if Ryuga was reintroduced in Metal Masters with Meteo L-Drago earlier and he made an team formed by himself, Helios, Hyoma and Kenta to compete in the World Championship!
I think Ryuga wasn’t at his best yet, given his bey evolved mid-battle and he still barely knew everything about his new abilities (but that’s just my perspective). Also Gingka beat Helios using Galaxy Nova, the very same special move he used to defeat Ryuga in the Metal Fusion finale
Great video!
Thanks, and yeah that’s a great point
While Helios and Sol Blaze did tie against Ryuga and Meteo L-Drago, I still think that Ryuga is the stronger blader. Helios is still a blader close to Ryuga's level. Also, I don't think that the metal fight beyblade movie is canon to the metal fight beyblade anime. The evolution of L-Drago is shown differently in the anime than in the manga tie-in to the movie. Plus, Gingka and the rest of team Gan Gan Galaxy were in the middle of the beyblade world championships. So, there's not a chance for the events of the movie to coincide with the events of the anime.
If beyblade was a show with same plot but 1000 times more detailed, it could be even greater classic than it already is.
Y’all gotta think about it he’s no where near ryuga (L DRAGO DESTRUCTOR) and he fought lighting L drago and L drago destructor is 10000000x stronger than lighting L drago if he can tie with L drago Destructor I’ll say he’s equal but until then he may be extremely strong but he’s not stronger or as strong as ryuga
Speaking of Helios and Poseidon Beyblades , I find it funny that Kyoya defeated 3 major Greek deities : Zeus(I forgot the name of that legendary blader) , Poseidon and Hades (it was his dog tho).
Ginga beat Helios because he use Galaxy Nova special move. That is his stongest move. Idk why somehow he not using that move at first battle. He only use that move 3 times, when defeating Ryuga at battle bladers final, defeating Helios, and defeating Doji at Zero-G/Shogun Steel.
Shogun Steel doesn't count. Non cannon
@@extraterrestrialhorse9722bro what are you talking about shogun steel is cannon
@@joshgroben1063 nah, that shambolic show isn't cannon, bye
@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 shogun steel full on has a manga that is cannon to the original metal series it’s where we learn ryuga was alive
He used a similar move against Gravity Destroyer and Hades Kerbecs called Star Dust Driver where he also flies into space makes a Galaxy and draws power from it so it’s basically the same move but for Galaxy Pegasus, Cosmic Tornado and Cosmic Nova and Super Cosmic Nova are more powerful attacks from Cosmic/Big Bang Pegasus.
I’ve never watched this movie. But, seeing Gingka defeated… LIKE THAT? I kid you not, I had my jaw dropped for the entirety of this video.
Fax
Honestly, i feel like that's the main reason why they excluded Ryuga from the movie, because he would've gave Helios a run for his money. Ryuga has always been that dude.
Or it's more likely these events took place even before ryuuga come into picture in the season.
@@dranzergigs8333You watched the video and it's self evident. There's no way the events could fit anywhere in the Anime series.
i remember watching this movie as a kid and was obsessed with helios thanks for this vid🙏🏾😭
The moment I saw the stadium I knew exactly what you were talking about and I knew Helios was familiar and I was so hyped
3:20 Gingka is the strongest one because plot armor 😪
Stop with the excuse of plot armor it's overused and annoying so please knock it off
@@zyrellwilliams1281 Yes I am with you. But metal fight did a lot to them
U know helios is the real deal
When sol blaze vs galaxy pegasus broke my stadium💀
To be fair Gingka in the first battle used only storm booster attack, while in the final battle used and storm Bridger and galaxy nova ( which was the move that deafet el drago ) so i think Gingka was really the strongest
Gingka is not even near Meteo L drago. Neither is he near Helios.
Galaxy Pegasus never surpassed L-Drago it’s very clear by the fact Twisted Tempo overpowered him yet L-Drago broke through his special move and weakened Twisted Tempo by accident easily.
Galaxy Pegasus was able to absorb the power of both Pegasus and L-Drago at least the levels they showed off in the finals as it was based off of that so he surpassed that yet not Ryuga completely as he said he did not show his true power.
I love that there is an actual explanation to L-dragons upgrade, and it’s pretty much the same as before. He absorbed the power of a star
i completely forgot about this movie i thought his bey blade was so cool when i was a kid😂
Man I didn’t know there was a movie
I would still lean towards Ryuga because he wouldn’t have mastered L-Drago yet and just unlocking his special move only to still master it. Just like Ryuga said. (You’re fool for someone who hasn’t mastered is own bay yet)
i remember watching the movie as a kid and i had goosebumps when Helios was introduced
I dont believe helios would win against L-Drago considering the gimmick at the time was the rubber coated energy ring granting it complete and total immunity to all physical attacks from right spinning beys. Unless blaze execution functions by creating an outward blast of heat to blow away opponents without needing to physically make contact with the opposing bey then L-Drago would simply grow stronger throughout the battle while helios weakens from the physical contact with L-Dragos rubber
People are probably quick to write off Helios but he faced Ryuga in the manga and it resulted in a draw.
I remember watching the movie over and over on the tape recorder as a kid, drawing the face bolt of Sol Blaze and sticking it to my Cyclone Herculeo so I can rp Helios, best days of my life
awww
To think I had this bey. Thought I was done with beyblade so I sold everything and now these things cost a fortune.
Quick correction with Helios name is that it’s not named after the Greek god of the sun, that would be Apollo, but the titan of the sun Helios
Apollo is the god of light not sun he is called the sun god just because he is very popular and is often mistaken as the sun god.
@@user-sw1rl5dx1u Helios is a sun god, but it entirely depends on which era of Greek mythology you tie him to.
Overly Sarcastic Productions did a good video recently going over Helios' & Artemis' history.
rago had 9 fragments i believe in my buy ryuga would win if they both had 1
Not to mention he was cheating with the stadium, absorbing powers and copying big beasts.
Bro Rago could control and absorb them, Ryuga could never control that power. He would loose to Diablo Nemesis or you wanna compare PROTOTYPE to literal EBOLUTION? Allow me to remind you Rago could control power while Ryuga could never control 9 fragments so they were not close. Stop cap
Either compare Diablo Nemesis revived with L Drago or compare prototype to prototype. You cant compare prototype to full power. That is like if I compared myself to baby Mike Tyson and said that I was stronger. Your logic is if Rago was not Rago or if he was weaker. Like if I said if Ryuga used plastical bey
Helios definitely is i think near metal masters ryuga and the rest for sure.
Ryuga still wins... In metal masters ryuga wasn't just the strongest, he was able to 1 shot everyone, ginka wouldn't even dare to clash him nad let's not forget: ryuga no diffed Jack, who was on similar power level to Damian and Ginka EXTREME diffed Damian, which means that Ryuga would probably mid diff metal masters Ginka and probably High diff AT BEST Helios
This video just brought back some long-buried core memories, and I'm not complaining at all.
Ryuga was my very first fictional crush, and to be honest, I'd choose him over Gojo or anyone else without a second thought.
Helios is strong blader but ryugaa 🔥🗿 bro like he became god like blader in the ending of metal Saga and ryuga never used of his half persent of power still unbeatable in my and with over million of fan opinion ryuga is most badasssss character in beyblade
Great video im glad helios is getting attention
Thanks. He’s definitely an underrated character
I would argue Helios is stronger than Gingka but weaker than Ryuga.
id argue manga helios is stronger then anime ryuga because manga ryuga is levels above anime ryuga and helios tied in the manga
No
@@jordanjgourdon5439 bro helios tied with manga ryuga, manga ryuga is stronger then in the anime, meaning helios from manga slams anime ryuga
@@Harri378no anime ryuga is stronger in my opinion because in manga ryuga had so many ties with and in anime ryuga literally crushes gingka with a little struggle every time they battled
@@Harri378 Ryuga hadnt mastered Meteo L Drago yet in the manga.
Damn i did not know a movie existed DAMNNNNN. But but let me speak as a Ryuga fan, Helios would get one shotted by Ryuga's life destructor. But I acknowledge that helios tied with Ryuga at that point in time.
Metro L drago was was more powerful than Soul blaze
Fr
if they made an english version, more people would know about it (the movie, it never got an english adaptation).
Helios is also one of my favorite characters, and I plan to bring him back for my own series that im working on, its a continuation of metal fury, in between shogun steel.
Also gonna find a way to bring back ldrago cuz thatd be freaking cool.
If u wanna know more lmk cuz I love coming up with ideas and talking about them with other beyblade fans.
:)
Sounds really interesting
aint no way lucid nightmares guy is here
In my opinion kyoya try his hardest to beat ginkga over the years this dude Helios comes out of nowhere beats ginkga in a way fans never seen ginkga lose before that has to get kyoya fans piss off and Helios should've been a legendary blader in my opinion him going toe to toe with ryuga is enough 😂
Yeah fr he should’ve been a legendary blader
I literally found out about Helios like two days ago lmao
Gingka beat Helios because he was more well prepared this time around, took Helios seriously from the start and used special move acter special move to win. In the first fight he was caught off guard and overwhelmed
ngl but no one is on ryuga's level he trained in a volcane to get stronger to get control over L-Drago. Ginga was on a lower level and helios is good but not that good as ryuga. The Dragon Emperor is the best always and 4 ever in our heart!
I think if we are taking anime continuity I think he is probably Kyoya/Gingka tier. End of masters Kyoya had that dog in him, he beat a Damien that was stronger then the Damien that fought Gingka and was said to get an arrangement based on Gingka’s data putting him above even Gingka during the final battle. Helios casually destroying everyone in a battle was cool but Damien was doing that to people stronger then the people Helios battled. Tho I do believe Helios beats Damien, I think Kyoya would probably be able to beat Helios as he is a more skilled blader and power wise could compete. Even if we want to take the asteroid feat into discussion, Helios needed Gingka to destroy it. Gingka in masters was almost able to absorb the power of the spiral force that could also destroy the planet. Given him and Kyoya were equals at this time with Kyoya actually might being more powerful then Gingka I feel he could do the same feat where if it was Kyoya and Gingka destroying the asteroid they could do it. I would probably give the W to Kyoya but that is a straight 50/50 fight.
Kyoya is and has been the goat
the movie was fire I bought the bey right after I watched it in like 2011
What if Ryuga defeated Diablo Nemesis and L-Drago absorbed it? What evolution would that L-Drago undergo?
Guess we’ll never know
He would most likely get corrupted by the power cuz it’s like the dark power but stronger
@@artix755 in this instance we're not factoring in if he would or not. I'm just wondering what the beys evolution form would look like. I guess it could have two different evolutions , one from corruption and the other from control.
@@glenmcintyre7280you think ryuga can control nemesis power well I think I not that easy because as the other person above you said it is way to corrupted then eldrago so I think no
To bad helios only appear in one movie , i want see this guy more
Yes remember watching movie 2013 because my cousin got dvd saying you are watching all Beyblade but never this movie only japan was surprised
I actually have that Bey when I was a kid.. And I kept wondering who was it's owner. 18 yrs later and I've finally found it 😭
I wished kyoya was Ryugas brother because Kyoyas training was like Ryugas
Yeah that would be pretty cool
Better awnser guys : read the manga, there is a battle between Ryuga and Helios, and this battle serves as a prologue to the movie
Can you tell me what happened ?
where can i read it?
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@@Boomyourmomthey tied and in the manga Ginga also bears ryuga on the competition where Chris becomes a legendary blader and king
@@ohmaplaymaker u didn't answer the question
So your telling me that sol blaze finished galaxy pegasus with blaze exacution but couldn’t finish lightning l drago😂😂
Even Ryuga said that Ginga didn’t reach his full potential with galaxy pegasus yet so Lightning L drago was prolly stronger at that time
Helios is the 2nd strongest in metal masters ryuga is the strongest
Gingka, Faust and maybe Kyoya in Metal Masters are stronger than Helios.
Don’t forget about Phoenix, he took out the entire Chinese team with Gingka, Masamune, and Kenta at ONCE, he also effortlessly defeated Tsubasa, and he beat Gingka once too
Phoenix is very underrated
Even so, Ryuga will just absorb Phoenix's power to defeat him.
bro phoenix sneak attacked, in a straight up battle he lost to storm pegasus😂
@@peterallotey658 Plot armour, and don’t forget Phoenix still defeated Gingka too
@@peterallotey658you do realize beys and bladers can grow stronger, right? All of them were stronger than Strong Pegasus don’t downplay him just cuz he sneak attacked cuz he would still have to overpower their own power.
But Pegasus and others got stronger past that fight too at the end anyways.
I wish Helios was in the show
This fight also proves that manga ryuga can also make special moves between battles same like gingka as he did when his lightning-l-drago evolves into meteo-l-drago and in an instant ryuga comes up with his new special move dragon emperor supreme fight!!!
If helios fought metal masters Ryuga , then I think Ryuga would easily win. Because in the manga, L drago evolved just then, so obviously he had no time training with meteo L drago, but if Ryuga had time for training, he would've figured out how to use the rubber wheels and the left flat performance tip, which would have made him way way stronger (like he was in the anime while battling Ginga or Jack). And if Helios fought Metal fury Ryuga than it's pretty obvious Ryuga would win as he now has a 4D bey.
While I don't think we can tell for sure, from what we can tell he is probably the closest one to the level of Kyoya, Gingka and Ryuga. From the limited screen time we have of him, he is clearly extremely strong. I think if he actually got a prominent role in fury, then we would know his power for sure.
There is one more guy whose beyblade can literally control space and time. If you know about whom I am talking, Faust and his beyblade twisted tempo. His beyblade is still their somewhere I don't know where but imagine him and helios in the final battle of fury it would have been insane help for others but still things would have went similar to the main story because nemesis had both of their beyblades power as well.
It would have been cool if the show had more seasons so there would be more character development.
I need to read this manga bro
I haven’t read it but apparently it’s crazy. Very different from the anime
@@wildfangedits6630where I can read the manga I didn't find it anywhere
I'm settling this now.
Ryuga is physically stronger than Gingka
Gingkas Blader Spirit is strongers than Ryuga
Ryuga, Gingka, and Kyoya are around the same strength and are rivals
Lol not even close, ryuga was on a completely different level to ginka and kyoya once he mastered the dark power. Literally wrecks them and smurfs every fight and literally ginka admits ryuga is the strongest in the world and strongest rival when rago shit talks ryga, ginka respects him for strength that much. Only rago who is a god and the made to be the final villian and ginka with the power of every blader in the world giving him power are stronger then ryuga.
@@metascrub285 this doesn't mean they aren't rivals
@@larrygamage3001 yes rivals but definitely not the same strength, not even close with ryuga. He smurfed and casually defeated the some of the other legendary beybladers pretty casually.
@@larrygamage3001 later in the series I don't even think ryuga gave a shit about ginka as he already wrecked him casually in their previous battle and was more focused on proving his power against rago to finally prove he is the strongest.
@@metascrub285 true
If this guy is so tough Why didn’t a star fragment land on him ?
The movie wasn’t as popular as the main series so the writers probably just decided to leave him out so no one would be confused. He’s definitely strong enough though
the sun isnt a constellation or a planet. besides, the legendary bladers also fight against a sun just black.
@@wildfangedits6630 Idk about manga, but at anime, the timeline seems weird. That twin dome tournament take time at summer. And at metal masters timeline, when summer, Gan Gan Galaxy is at the middle of world tournament.
Gingka was defeated pretty badly by Aguma and btw He never actually rematches Aguma either so kinda funny that he literally ended up losing to some bladers in that season and never got pay back
Aguma lost to kyoya and tithi and king but he doesn’t mean weak. aguma defeat gingka and yuki and no one legendary bladers defeat gingka like chris
Yeah he was about to rematch him but useless Yuki had to cut off Gingka
@@soundwave7855 The important is that aguma defeated Gingka and Yuki and threw Bao out of the stadium
@@soundwave7855 😂😂 literally his battle was interrupted by Tithi 😂
True but Gingka surpassed Aguma anyways
Ngl the Ryuga meatriding in the comments is insane. Also I just wanna say I think Helios is a very underrated character and I think even tho he’s inferior to Ryuga he’d still give him a run for his money
To be honest nobody can say that they are the biggest bayblade fan with out knowing that there was a seson before metal
I agree. The og trilogy is a different kind of experience.
@@bangabir2763 right I mean you had to be special to. Have a bit beast or prove yourself it was not like that everyone had one
@@SoraFireSoul Ikr. Kai was originally a but beast hunter. Defeating and stealing
other beasts. Even in the metal series not everyone has a beast in their bey but it is not acknowledged
@@bangabir2763 true but it was more common it was not like oh ep 1 u got one I just feel OG gave out the bit beast ( that what I calling it no matter what in metal way to much but I do love the metal seson after that it went down hill I did like bust but I did not like all a vault clones lol
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He used Galaxy Nova
Man I feel really old talking about Beyblade, but personally the manga and how things were done was way better than the anime.
You are never old for talking about beyblade
In beyblade zero g you can see Helios in a clip in the last episode
Gingkas bey was the key to stop helios or help helios it depended on the choice of the blazer that’s why the wings of Pegasus can stop helios
Blader
@bladererx5 no the wings of Pegasus is what defeats sol blaze no matter what gingka is bound to win sol blaze would destroy anyone else except ryuga who he drew with
So, that’s why there’s no Poseidon BeyBlade in the anime. I was shock to find out this movie exists. Unfortunately I can’t find an English version.
The movie was not adapted to another language, you can fine the english sub on many sites tho
Ryuga meat riders going crazyyy 🥱🤧
Fr I love Ryuga too, but his meat riders are so immune to any criticism towards his character *cough* Fusion Ryuga *cough*!
@@ashodmiah7924 wait til they hear his Rago loss was due to his ego
@@Dysfunctional704 He put up a great fight and he did give Kenta his power so they would still win. However all of that could've been avoided if Zeus' Barrier was completed the first time.
@@ashodmiah7924 yh he rly said "fuck teamwork"
Lol, americans
where can i watch this movie with good quality
I think Helios is stronger than everyone in the world championships excluding Gingka (and maybe Kyoya). We cant say much about Ryuga since L-Drago had newly evolved, hence Ryuga hadnt mastered it at the time (and the Manga is different to the anime even in terms of power.)
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Gingka had to use his strongest special move (Galaxy Nova). He's only ever pulled it out in the biggest battles (Ryuga controlled by L-Drago and Rago).
Galaxy Nova is nothing compare with life distructor
@@alinandreipopescu989 0 relevance + it most likely does anyways.
@@SpiritedFalcon Ginga used super cosmic nova to defeat Rago, it is a completely different move, combined with the power of all legendary bladers in the world, I talk about galaxy nova which is levels weeker than life distructor
@alinandreipopescu989 we don't actually know because he never used it with Big Bang/Cosmic Pegasus. There is 0 scaling.
@@SpiritedFalcon well yes, but he used dragon emperor supreme flight and it was enough
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Where can I read the beyblade metal manga ?
Btw nice video :))
Thanks. It was never fully translated to English but I think some fans have translated some of it. Here’s how I’ve seen it: mfbmanga.jax.fyi and instagram.com/tatale7228?igshid=6ibvm3rlgplr
@@wildfangedits6630 thxx
Isn't it in mamga. .. ryuga already defeated Helios . ? Im pretty sure ryuga wasn't in the movie because it would look bad for Helios
Manga kinda completely different from the anime though
@@inafrenzy1348 yes 🔥❤️
It was a tie
@@josesanchezrodriguez1783 yes just saw that.. it. hard to swallow . It's a tie against ryuga .
Well ryuga did used his dark move on meteo l drago. ..
If you think about, Helios looks like Ryuga but with all white hair and Blue eyes
It's kinda cool how Helios shows up in the last episode of Shogun Steel, even thought most people wouldn't know who he is
Yeah it’s a nice nod to the movie for sure even if it was just a brief cameo
What episode does he show up
At the very end of Shogun Steel. He’s there for like a second with team Russia from the world championships
He only shows up in the japanese version.
@@Darth_Malgus4627 I seen it rn in the English version
Gingka only seems to win against an Opponent that has Equal Feats or is stronger is because of Plot Armor
a blader i think deserves the chance to battle ryuga, is Damian. Both Gingka and Kyoya were able to beat Damian, but with EXTREMELY high diff. Ryuga should beat him with mid-high diff. also if Damian and Helios were to fight, Id say helios would win due to the fact that helios actually beat gingka which damian hasnt, but it would be extreme high diff.
Why wasn’t the movie released with an English version?
Do you think Ryuga and Helious could both beat Rago in a 2v1?
Noo bcs rago has also helios power, but ryuga if he absorbed 9 fragment he can beat rago
ryuga almost defeated Rago in the battle but Rago had absorbed the power of a lot of other beyblades and in the end he also absorbed L-drago and used it against Ryuga. If it weren't the case I think Ryuga would have won it
rago had to use all his power against ryuga to win otherwise he couldnt win from ryuga
Yes, everybody knows that nobody could beat Ryuga using their own power.
@@h8_mE WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY OWN POWER NO ONE STOP RYUGA NOT USE OTHERS POWER HE IS WEAK SO HE LOST
Ryugs is still better
mentioning how Gingka won the battle in the end was kinda lame, guess considering that the movie is considered Canon, they couldn't have Pegasus have something like a upgrade in a form of a recolour or something.
@Wildfang Edits while helios is impressive he only was able to match meteo L drago
and we know L drago destructor was much more powerful than meteo. And based
on the fact that we know that helios wasn't a legend blader his Bey didn't get a star fragment
boost so ryuga if he fought helios again would likely crush him. And I'd put ryuga above gingka
even at the end because gingka has to rely on others whereas every other time he and ryuga
fought ryuga beat him very decisively. He lost to gingka once ginga has like 3 L's lol.
Gingka Beat Helios bc he used galaxy nova in the second battle against him but even with that Helios was holding on with his move and gingka barely won as for Helios vs Ryuga the only reason they tied is bc L drago just evolved into meteo meaning ryuga hadn't mastered it plus Helios was seen immediately having mastered his bey when battling both of them so if ryuga with mastered meteo were to fight him it would end with ryuga winning high diff against him since gingka extreme diffed him and ryuga>gingka in master's so yeah 👍
Ok that makes sense, I guess the confusion for me came from the names of special moves being changed in translation. Like in the dub version gingkas move is Star booster attack but translated from japanese I thinks it’s stargazer
@@wildfangedits6630 true but the dub also just makes small changes like the move going from being called starblast attack to starbooster attack and back to starblast attack in fury unnecessary changes I noticed when watching lol
But that doesnt make sense. Gingka beat helios, so i dont see how helios would be tied with ryuga.
@@bladerjordangingka>ryuga
@@ScarlettTamer it probably was to do with his 4D performance tip when Gingka sets his final drive mode, Storm Pegasus motif appears briefly above Big Bang Pegasus. The tip is RF that Storm Pegasus had, it probably has to do with it hence why Big Bang Pegasus uses Starblast Attack instead of the Starbooster attack that is powered through the R2F tip
This is not all the power of Ryuga, but the other person has a very strong left blaze, a beyblade that is the reincarnation of a god like Nemessis. If L Drago could absorb his power, this means that Rago can also absorb his power. And of course, when it comes to the fight between Ryuga and Helios, let's take L Drago as meteo L Drago and fight with Sol Blaze. Let's fight. Ryuga's supreme flight of the Dragon Emperor did not finish his work, but Ryuga seemed surprised there and was suddenly attacked, and Helios used special moves twice, once in the first clash and the other at the end of the match, and this one special move of Ryuga was compared to two special moves of Helios.
ryuga hasnt seen meteor full power at the time because they bey evolved while fighting
I wanted to see Helios and Kyoya go at it 😩
Fr that would’ve been a great battle
at that time, helios would win.