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The Alliance are NOT heroes AoT Season 4 Part 2 Episode 11 Review (Rant)
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- čas přidán 19. 03. 2022
- Addressing all the hypocrisy. I’m annoyed and I swear a lot disclaimer. Watch the whole thing before you comment. Chances are I answered you or proved you wrong already.
You know I never hated Mikasa, I was just neutral on her character but on tik tok and twitter they just make her seem like she's this character with amazing layers to her. She's literally just eren obsessed 95% of the time.
Trash psycho Simpkasa/dogkasa
She's not bad but more of equivalent to a simple piece of bread in a five star hotel, extremely monotonic and bland for a anime like AOT
Bruh her literal quote is EREH
Iam not even shocked those cess pool sites love her She a F Mary Sue twitter and tik tok have bad taste in what a character is
“genocide is wrong” * Bathes in the blood of former comrades while making avengers faces
That mikasa scene made me sick
Then don't come and hate Armin, he literally didn't want to kill single one of them and as well accepting Daz if he is going to kill him
Killing a bunch of yeagerist is not the same thing as genocide especially when each on of those soldiers is taking a part in the mass slaughter.
@@Omega-jg4oq he unnecessarily did not blow up dead bodies for some epic scene and strike a pose, mikasa did and too after impaling a decapitated dead body to someone else
@@Omega-jg4oq armin is the worst salt water simp, armin is a naive backboneless bish
@@JudahDavis killing a bunch of "firends" and comrades
Do your blocked brain cant process process that?
Anni says she will kill scouts and all just for her dad
Reynar, pieck fuk shyt up just to save gabi and the kid
Really pissed me off where Mikasa killed them off so brutally killing her own people but look at floch as a monster for defending his country.
When had they depicted Floch as a monster? He has clearly shown tyrant ideals, but the show has shown his humanity as well, when he says that they're protecting the Island they're not told to be in the wrong in any way.
This is the antithesis between the haters of AoT, the side that says that the show promotes fascism and the ones like you who say that the actual good guys are being portrayed as monsters. Which is it? It can be both, two contradictory arguments. The real answer is that both arguments have their own self-proclaimed narrative.
The eldian part of the alliance is just basically helping the warriors finish their mission 😭😭 sickening
And to top it all off the warriors don’t even lose anything according to 139. Annie gets her dad. Reiner gets his family and pieck too. Meanwhile the eldians lost everything for helping them. They’re not even allowed in paradis anymore 😭 who even knows how mikasa got in
@@dariusw8535 why do many people defend bad writing like this I am not saying that people cant have opinions but why do they like trash like this
@@dariusw8535 Oh right, years of trauma, oppression, being trapped in a never ending void, attempting suicide, and overall guilt wasn't enough for them. They should be burned at the stake at the middle of the plaza for everyone to see for you people to satisfy your bloodlust, even though these guys were brainwashed and forced to act in benefit of their countries interests since childhood. Yeah, that sounds like a reasonable thing to do. If you believe punishment like that is fair and desirable then you and those who agree with you AREN'T better than Marley, you're fueled by hate, so much that you fall in hypocrisy.
@@dariusw8535
Mikasa only got in because she wasn’t publicly acknowledged as being part of the Alliance, otherwise they wouldn’t have allowed her back in to bury Eren’s head…
How she got into Paradis carrying Eren’s head, idk
@@dariusw8535it’s sickening to me how you think an eye for an eye should exist in this world if you think that a good show needs to be dark then you shouldn’t be allowed to commentate on any pieces of fiction
So Mikasa is willing to forgive Gabi who killed Sasha and forgive Annie for killing innocent people and survey crops, but couldn’t spare a few kind words towards another girl who was brainwashed and on her death bed?
And blows up two dudes who where already dead our heroine
@@thatoneblackdude3333 she ain’t my heroine
@@titanblade3706 saying that with a eren profile pic BASED
@@thatoneblackdude3333 she ain my hero, but she is an annoying hindrance
Yeah Mikasa is a bitch
The part where Mikasa activated the thunder spears on a guy who was already near death was so inhumane. Can’t believe she would do that to her own comrades
It was already shown that Simpkasa doesn't give a fuck about anything or anyone and when Jean, Connie were hesitant to kill their comrades simpkasa was more concerned about her new found "relative"🤮 kiyomi the same bitch who came to the island for money and resources
And of course the Twitter clowns praised her for it saying blowing up already dead people and bathing in there blood is a yass queen moment.
@@thatoneblackdude3333 😂😂 Twitter is filled with clowns
@@sastaassh1112 just came back from a terrible argument with a ending defender and I regret life
@@thatoneblackdude3333 the end of attack of titan was great! This last episode was fucking amazing, and you're just mad. You're all idiots. You're all hating on Eren. You're all hating on Mikasa. You people are clowns. You're just angry that you didn't get the end you wanted. Jeans a bitch. Armin is the only logical one in the whole series. Yall are just mad.
The animation was good for Mikasa but damn, where was this rage and brutality when Marleyan troops were invading her hometown?..Lol
Clown simpkasa
MAPPA really put their all into this episode. Floch rallying up his troops with a speech about how if they lose now, their comrades dreams will be in vain, everyone will be lost, and telling them to fight. Being willing to stand on the front lines until the very end and failing when he's merely a hair from his goal. Just like Erwin. He had to become like the Devils he always admired. For Eren. And with that sheer determination of all of Eldia riding on his shoulders, he charged at the Jaw Titan(known for its speed), Hange(one of the highly trained veteran soldiers, AND Pieck(another extremely fast titan) AND he outmaneuvered ALL OF THEM and almost took down the ship. Even with the odds stacked against him, he still fought.
The Alliance says that their fallen comrades would never agree with what Eren plans to do.
Floch says he's following what Eren wants to do BECAUSE of their fallen comrades.
Beautifully said 😭😭😭
Ok we get it you love mappa 😂😂
tbh tho, MAPPA was on a really tight schedule for this episode. They re used many stuffs, had badly drawn background characters ( they are literally stickmen), as if they spent their animation budget on Falco's jaw titan or something
@@phoebepaige1619 fuk mappa, they simping for armin
For the majority of the series Marley has been attacking Paradis. Every conflict Titan-related is directly/indirectly traced back to Marley. The Marleyans were constantly antagonizing Paradis. Then, when Tybur declares war and the eradication of Paradis and Eldians, the Eldians are bad people for fighting back to save their own lives???
They’re idiots my guy. The average person is an idiot.
On Reddit there was an Armenian guy who made a direct comparison between the Attack on Titan situation and the real life situation between Armenians and Azerbaijanis.
Needless to say he 100% supported the Rumbling. Most fans are first worlders and don’t know how the world works.
It's more gross than Sergeant Major Gross, because at least the series knew Gross was a bad guy and gave him the death he deserved.
Yes.
The euthanasia plan would have been better imo
It initiates that the fear the Marley had was justified
What I dislike most about the ending is that there were no consequences of bad actions. When the Eldians do something questionable or something that might be viewed by most AOT fanbase to be bad, we see them facing the consequences of their actions. For example, the attack on Liberio, where Sasha was killed and they dared to blame Eren for it; despite the fact that he gave them the Warhammer titan, and killed the Marleyan military leaders. While when Marley does anything bad to Eldians, as they have been doing since the beginning of the series, they rarely face any consequences. SPOILER...
Annie is a very very horrible person who killed countless of innocent people and she never apologized for it, unlike Reiner who apologized to them many times. Regardless of that, she happily got to meet her father (not to forget that she was partially responsible for Eren's death, because she summoned the regular titans Shiganshina when Bertholdt broke the gate).
That's what I don't understand too bro the fans and characters in the show wants to put all blame on eren acting like hes only person in show that has killed people or has done bad things like has if warriors and mikasa others haven't done terrible shit too.It's js the situation that Paradise is in is what made eren to do this if u watched the show.
This Episode makes me wish I never got into attack on titan.
The ending defenders makes me wish I didn't got inti this series
Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood is the better anime to me. Less plotholes than Attack on Titan.
hate to say it but yeh
You can't say that, i hate the ending too but we should appreciate everything it has given us despite the bad parts and it's well enough to not make you regret such a decision your whole life.
What would the fallen scouts say to Levi if they saw him and his band of defectors doom Paradis? What would they say to Hange? I’d imagine they wouldn’t be too happy to lay their lives down just to watch these defectors do a 180° and effectively seal the fate of the people they sacrificed themselves for.
This is the thing that I think about the most. All of those comrades in seasons 1-3 are just completely disregarded and disrespected in memory. Their sacrifices mean nothing. It’s like every storyline throughout the majority of the show was meaningless.
@@AspiringWriter111 It’s as if they the have up their lives to postpone the inevitable. I feel as if they knew this would be the outcome, they wouldn’t have joined the scouts to begin with.
This is why I think Levi's moment of seeing all his comrades is just...NONE OF IT MATTERED. What did they die for? For their comrades to turn on each other? I'm so glad Erwin died now. The ending was so bad, and character arcs were dropped or ruined, SO glad Levi was sidelined with an injury for the most of it.
The way they want us to root for the alliance like their heroes is mind boggling. Where was this energy against Marley? Oh, that’s right. We were supposed to feel bad for the Marleyans when Eren attacked. Watching this bloodbath doesn’t make me root for them in the slightest. It just leaves a sour taste in the mouth. It’s so stupid.
Some clown people will love them 🤮😂😂
And they play slow sad music when Eren attacked the nazi Marleyns who declared the fucking war and play heroic music when the "warriors" and the clown alliance slaughter Paradisians who are fighting back and trying to protect their people.
@@phoebepaige1619 exactly! It’s ridiculous how they’re trying to show that the alliance’s fighting spirit is some sort of redeeming act, when the warriors haven’t changed their intentions and the defectors are sealing the Eldian’s fate. For the first time the Eldians fight back, but the audience is supposed to disprove their actions? Have the writers forgotten Marley was antagonizing Paradis and Eldians the ENTIRE series?
@@phoebepaige1619 With shit like this, it's no wonder people say AoT is 'pro-fascism'!
@@wooo3484 She understands the theme otherwise she wouldnt have made the comment. Obviously you lack the ability to discern propaganda or narrative devices
I am so happy to hear someone verbally say all of my thoughts. I felt gaslighted with how they act like the alliance are the good guys when they are literally sacraficing their friends and family’s for strangers.
Seeing how Mikasa acted like a rabid dog against her own people who are just trying to defend their home, I now see that the King who ordered the Ackermann purge may have had a point.
Oh my god 😅
Lol
WOBBEGONG!!!
erens dead without them ackermans tho fr
Actually the Ackermans were based and refused to go along with the King's stupid plan of being self hating Eldians. Since they couldn't have their memories wiped they were hunted to near extinction. Needless to say Mikasa, and Levi, the last of their kind, are making all of them roll in their graves.
I also liked how Floch was animated this episode he gave his speech in which he spoke 100% facts. And he kicked Hange’s goofy ass and blew up Pieck and was about to blow up the boat until he got shot by the aimbot.
Again she should've gone for th head and not neck or shoulder and Floch will return 😏
@@sastaassh1112 it’s funny ppl think floch is dead
@@Sn_da_1st I wish he would have at least shot an alliance member before he passed away.
Aot is trash and i wont even keep watching cause It pisses me off the story is so bad now
@@Visualiize If you hate aot now wait tell you hear
About that god awful ending
I wanted to slap Armin when he said that Eren activating the rumbling to eradicate the world was going too far when they literally were going to eradicate the people of Paradis. What Eren is doing is no different what the world was going to do to the Eldians on the island.
Yeah that thunder spear scene had me rolling my eyes. It was super unnecessary to explode their dead bodies into blood rain and let it fall on Mikasa in it's edgy, out of touch, hypocritical glory. It paints the picture that she's enjoying the massacre or toying with them at the very least like Annie did to poor yoyo-man.
Right no moral hero does what mikasa did if anyone else did what mikasa did to the Yeargerests people would question there sanity but because it's mikasa uwu she's just defending herself against the evil fascists.
Was that even in the manga??
@@alexvaughan1013 nope
@@cristianmaggi1762 Guess MAPPA used the trees to save money for this scene.
@@alexvaughan1013 yeah hahahahah
The alliance is the height of hipocracy. This show pisses me off I haven't watch these couple of episodes because it's just playing up the alliance and making them seem heroic for planning to "save the world and kill evil eren and the yeagerists". I aint gonna watch until eren shows up to see his full form animated
They wasted 6 fucking episodes on these clowns and animated one chapter per episode which is like the worst pacing I've ever seen and they are trying very hard to make everyone feel for the clown alliance and also stretch this shit and make another movie to milk this shit 🤮😂
@@sastaassh1112 facts
@@sastaassh1112 nah bro, one piece has the worst Pacing, they are animating like nine pages per episode and make unnecessary filler scenes
@@sastaassh1112 i know is unrelated, just saying
Thay psycho Simpkasa slaughtering her comrades (for whom she never gave a fuck about) and that shows she doesn't give a fuck about anything or anyone and is jealous and pissed that Eren trusted Floch and the rest more than her and trash Armong 🤡😂. She would've definitely slaughtered Historia if she she knew that she knew Erens plan and was much closer to him than simpkasa can ever think of.
and that Ep 12 preview sounds like the Eren and Historia talk AoE is happening / the things we saw that day the things we talked about that day the thing we chose that day/ it was all that he wanted/ Ep 12 preview lines we getting the Eren and Historia baby talk the thing we chose that day is having the baby together and zero eclipse lyrics the promise we made that day come back alive
@@devinomatsu2444 Your right, I didn't watch a single episode of aot untill this clown alliance screetime is over and now curiously waiting for ep 12 to launch. I hope they don't skip Eren and Historia conversation.
@@mondeepengti8733 I know AoE is going to happen proven by the preview itself but I'm outside on my phone and 3:00 a.m. so I'll send you more details of that when I wake up
@@Spantzcatdog it's not going to have the Mikasa part focused on
Something I've been wondering about lately, does anyone think Reiner and Annie would fight against Marley to defend the people of Paradis against genocide? Like if they had stopped Eren and continued their invasion, I don't believe the whole alliance thing ever would have happened. Honestly think Reiner and Annie would help wipe out Paradis just to end everything quicker. I don't know, just feels like the whole "genocide bad, lets not kill everyone" only seems to apply when not talking about the island people. When it comes to them then its all cut off their head, impale them, and then blow them up for good measure.
Alliance: “killing people unnecessarily is wrong!”
Mikasa looking at innocent yeagerist corpses: 👹💣💥
Ikr, and why tf she blew up that poor dead soldier if thunder spear and blown her into bits 🙄 and it was raining with his blood
@@sastaassh1112 mostly peaceful massacre
In the INTEREST OF FAIRNESS, they did attempt to go at this subtly in the previous episode but Floch managed to catch them, in which at that point, they had no choice but to fight. Yes they were former comrades and I can imagine how hard it was for them to do all of this, but in the episode it's like they said, if they hesitate, they're essentially dead, as the rumbling won't stop, and they're in a race against time. It was kill or be killed. That's one of the horrors of war. To quote The Boss from MGS3, yesterday's friends could be tomorrow's enemies.
@@wingadept8793 that doesn’t mean they have to execute disarmed enemies or blown up corpses.
@@GreenGnome1945 The problem is you're looking at this through ideals. This is war. You don't have time to think about your enemies feelings on the battlefield, especially when they're trying their hardest to kill you. Even they disarmed the enemies what guarantee that they won't get up and fight? I get it. It's horrible, but that's what the scene is SUPPOSED to make you feel. You're not supposed to enjoy this. That's the cruel reality of war. That's why it's such a terrible thing, as it brings out the worst in people. I agree the blowing up is excessive, but in a battlefield, rationality and morals go out the window more time than most. The key is to survive. Again I UNDERSTAND what you guys are saying, and I hate it too, but to me they already know they're not necessarily heroes. They'll be hailed as traitors and monsters in many people's eyes, but just like the Yaegerists, they are fighting for what they believe is right. And in AOT, there is no RIGHT SIDE.
The alliance is the ultimate hypocrisy
Yup
That’s the fucking point
Your saying that they would rather let the entire world burn rather than killing some of their comrades?
@@jeffmcfellen2717 they rather all their friends and their families and future families be genocided by the outside world? isayama wrote himself into this corner and some people are too dumb to realize it.
@@jeffmcfellen2717 People of your race>World
Mikasa blows up two dead men while Jean headshots a scared crying girl, I guess they are made for each other lmao.
At least Floch's charge was kino.
Jean cares about Paradis too but he wasn't in the yeagerists side to begin with, he was just pretending.. just because they will stop the rumbling doesn't mean they can't use it again.. they can use it as defense force.. but Eren is just being Eren
@@Omega-jg4oq They're hardly even prepared to kill Eren at this point, let alone literally eat him. What, are they supposed to have Jean eat his spine while Armin feeds himself to Historia? It was never going to happen.
@@Omega-jg4oq How the hell can they use it again. We know that Zeke erased the Kings influence, but apart from him and Eren, everybody thinks that it is still alive. They would not risk losing Historia to the Kings will and have all of Paradis sent back tot the beginning.
The only good thing that comes from Attack on Titan these days is Saintitchief and Browns destroying the fuck outta this garbage ass shit every week. 😂
To be honest for the past 3 episodes, it has felt as if I were watching a “Try not to get Mad” video. The shear stupidity of Hanges half assed arguement of “Genocide is bad” and goes on to save the world that wants to genocide her comrades and her people. Hange and the old government had 4 years…4 YEARS TO PLAN AN ALTERNATIVE. And came with nothing, and because of that Eren had to step up and do what had to be done. Mikasa as a character seems to just be going through a stupid teen rebellious phase where she wants to prove Eren that she has free will, so now instead of protecting her home and her people she’s like “See Eren, I’m not controlled by you! I bet protecting the island is what you wanted me to do! So ya know what? Imma kill my own people and help the people who want us dead! HA, see Eren you don’t control me!”. They have no pay off for saving the world, NONE! They are literally only doing this because they have this stupid self-righteous thumb up their ass, and can’t live with themselves that they helped Eren save his people. They are doing this for selfish reasons and would rather let their people die like cattle, waiting for slaughter so they can repent their sins from their ancestors. Sound familiar???
The whole alliance logis is : genocide is bad unless its done to my own people
@@cloverdnibber9905 This goes back in the series. When they captured the Female Titan under Erwin, they didn't give two fucks about all the civillians who got crushed! But the Liberio invasion is apparently terrible because Eren led the Scouts to kill civillians in a foreign country. Seriously fuck AoT!
@@alexvaughan1013 Incorrect, Erwin's plan to capture Annie in Stohess district was solid and well thought out by being designed to minimize civilian casualties by trapping her underground, but she escaped, transformed then the citizens died in the battle. If she didn't have the ring, which no one could have anticipated she *would* have been captured. You are making it seem like Erwin was hoping to get civilians killed which is dumb as fucking rocks considering the plan was literally designed to take her alive, and not have any civilians (especially the government) even know about her.
Eren is the opposite, he not only did not strategize with anyone except Zeke who is literally a sociopath, but he also did all that by himself without the Survey Corp even having a say, because he knew that they would be forced to come rescue him, and he also knew they would never agree to such a pointless, reckless plan. Furthermore Eren *intentionally positioned himself directly behind the stage where the civilians were located* he created a plan that directly, GUARANTEED that innocent people would die. And he didn't actually have to do so, he was simply impatient and gave up on a peaceful resolution.
His plan didn't even work properly as Willy wasn't the Warhammer, and many Survey Corp died, including Sasha.
Nice try though Yeagerist.
That's where you're wrong, they did come up with something, the problem is that Eren did not like it, because it didn't gave a guarantee of success and it would sacrifice Historia and her descendants. Still bad, but much better than a Us vs. Them situation. Also, she's right Genocide is wrong no matter how you present it, and this doesn't mean they support the genocide of their people either, personally I couldn't live knowing that everything was built upon the deaths of many innocents, and if Eren erased people's memories to be oblivious of this fact, it would be very hypocritical since it is taking away the liberty of the people.
@@alexvaughan1013 aha... you know that it was Erwin's plan to make the attempt of capturing Annie in Stohess right? Annie showed shock when she saw dead people after EREN punched HER against the church, and then Annie made attempts to escape not to capture Eren, also Annie only directly killed soldiers which were in her way to capture Eren.
I never seen the 104th go so hard on any enemy before this not on any marleyens not on any pure titans, but they will be ruthless on their own people trying to protect their families and their island.Did mikasa really need to blow those 2 guys up one of them was stabbed and the other one was decapitated, they are done they are finished, they are not a threat anymore 😭 💀
The Keith Shadis scene made me really dislike him. No wonder Carla never wanted this clown.
HAHAHHAHAHA that’s what I’m saying he literally convinced his students to be Jaegerists and then killed them
Tbh, they killed Keith shadis for no reason and he completed his "arc" so they killed him 😂😂 maybe they did that to make thei maggot's death emotional 😂
Literally they kill there own people in worse more brutal ways then there enemies.
@@BROWNSMAGIC maybe that was his master plan and he always hated his students anyways since they whooped his old ass when Floch told them to 😂😂
@@thatoneblackdude3333 at least Connie and Armong hesitated at first but that psycho Simpkasa slaughtered all of them without even thinking twice. And this was the same bitch who told that "i wint let Eren kill anyone else"😂😂 no wonder Eren ne er told her and Armin his plan 😂
I find it confusing that the alliance whole reason for stopping eren is because they believe genocide is wrong but isnt that what all the other nations are trying to do to paradis? What did the alliance think was gonna happen when they killed eren the reality was that the outside world is gonna genocide all the eldians so basically their the choosing the mass murder of their own people over the mass murder of their enemies
What I don't understand is people comparing the Mikasa scene to Levi's in season 3. They are completely different with context and what would've resulted from their actions. If Eren got fed to Historia, then she would be influenced by the kings will and will do nothing to save the island from the rest of the world. So by Levi deleting Kenny's squad, he was saving the island from that path. Mikasa on the other hand knows that by stopping Eren, she dooms the island and still does it anyway. Levi and Mikasa's scene are completely different. Levi stops Kenny to save the island. Mikasa stops Flock to doom the island.
If Levi was fine then both Ackerman clowns would've slaughtered them together 🤮😂😂
Levi fighting Kenny squad was self defense and he also killed them quickly and efficiently he didn't blow anyone up and bath in there blood with a sinister look like a super villain the fact that they think those to scenes are in any way the same shows there bias .
Levi killed kenny's men fast and as normal as killing with sword can get. Mikasa decapitated, dismantled and exploded them. She butchered them
Exactly thank you!
My sort-of comparison to Afro Samurai is more fitting!
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I think one of the most annoying things about the end of the manga is how it feels like the story forgets who the "bad guys" were. (I know war is morally gray, but the rumbling was entirely the result of the rest of the world trying to kill the Eldians once and for all). Aside from Niccolo and Magath, none of the non-eldians outside the walls have a change of heart. If the manga had shown a regular Marleyan standing in crowd when the alliance showed up being like "I thought they were devils, why are they helping us?" That could have been enough to convince me. But instead we get just the warrior's families and friends. Even in the epilouge, the alliance is more worried about the Jaegerists than the rest of the world retaliating.
On top of all of that, Mikasa and the others are killing their own commrades to save Reiner, Pieck, and Annie's families. But if Eren didn't do the rumbling and let the rest of the world attack Paradise? Those three wouldn't have tried to do anything to stop it. Because they're used to killing innocents on behalf of Marley. Falco and maybe an unbrainwashed Gabi are the only ones I could see joining the side of Paradise in that situation.
Yea Marley where literally Nazi Germany 2.0 but then they just decide to demonize eren and make him the bad guy and everyone the scouts included unanimously aggre like Marley literally started the war just so they can steal the founding titan so they could continue to conquer the world every person that died because of eren is because of the war Marley started and there one of the surviving civilizations that survive where there victims paridis included die off fucking disgusting
The villains are Marley government actually, IMO. As in, the rest of the world may treat Eldians worse, but not only is Eren's attitude caused by Marleyan actions, Marleyans usage of Eldians and Titans in war tactics is directly influencing the rest of the world still seeing Paradisians as the devils.
@@kazikek2674 its funny when eldian itself is controlling marley from the shadow..
I dont see marley or other country have too much hate toward eldians without propaganda.. who tell the fake story about eldian none other than the eldian itself.. the reason why this history so complicated is because "that eldian" didnt share the true story from the begining.. if the world is really hate eldian, why "that family" which is also an eldian have so much respect from other nation not only marley? Thats because they're the world saviour in that fake history,, if they just tell the world the true history before propaganda get out of hand (say it 20 years after the king fleed to that island), i think everyone can change their mind, they still get their respect and world perspective toward eldians is drastically change.
@@rizkyakbar3531 You're correct, of course, Wilbur family had a tremendous influence. I do think their plotline was underutilized, though. We never learn what Eren obtained from the Warhammer's memories and if it in any way influences his choices later on.
I think this was purposely animated the way it is to make the Alliance look as monsters. Mikasa slashing arms off and heads off, exploding DEAD CORPSES with thunder spears is just animalistic behaviour from her Ackerman gens. Right now I side with Eren and the Jaegerists. Also Floch what a great character he is, he stood against the cart, jaw, armored, and female titans WITH NOT A GLIMPSE OF FEAR. THIS is how you write a character, he turned from a coward who knows exactly how things are to a soldier who is not afraid to sacrifice his own life to protect his nation.
When I saw Mikasa killing her own people so brutally. My head, nerves and blood was boiling😡😡. I hope AOE happens where this clown alliance get killed brutally(especially, Armin, Mikasa, Jean, Connie, Levi and Annie) by Eren and brings freedom to Paradis and destroys the whole outside world 😔😔.
I wish for aoe too and let's wait
Yeah
Armin didn't even want to kill them.. he is trying his hardest to get everyone together.. he doesn't deserve to be hated
@@Omega-jg4oq but the point is they were working with the warriors same people who got and killed there commrades same people who get there childhood friend mom killed Marley is the enemy and Armin is the traitor to his home with rest scouts who's with him.
@@Omega-jg4oq armin's brain turned out to be useless in this situation
They were nice to the marleyans compared to what they did to their comrades. Some absolutely brutal deaths this episode super nasty stuff by the avenger wannabes.
Literally they treated the terrorists who tried to kill them and murdered there families and friends better then there own countrymen wtf
Also connie and sadish killing one hundred of his former Students
This episode just made me hate the alliance with a passion
I think it's so easy to defend the alliance because they're the main cast, a casual viewer wouldn't think twice of what they're doing, but if you think logically they're just murdering their own people, condemning them for what? A chance to talk with Eren? Like?? It would make sense if the alliance were only the Marley warriors and our main cast would try to stop them eventually colliding at where Eren is, but yeah, its just pitiful now watching the scenes from S1-S3 when the scouts are promising to live long lives and what not
The alliance make theirs deaths meaningless s1-s3 survey corpses and S4 yeagerists
The alliance are clown. Eren’s motives is to end the war by himself since Willy Tybur and leaders of the world allied to attack Paradis. Eren just wants to save his remaining allies by eradicating the threat(world). However, these clowns thought that genocide is wrong but if rumbling are just after Marley and when they’re done dealing with Marley. Mikasa,Armin and others would also kill the people around the world for their own safety. Why? Because the people around the world except Paradis won’t just sit their asses around knowing what happened on Marley. Those traitors remind me of Historia’s family. They don’t care about the future of Eldia, their homeland, the suffering of innocent people who died in vain knowing nothing about the world. If Erwin is just alive, I bet he would slap them. One’s owns mistake is not others but Eldians as well(especially Eren’s mom). Long live the Yeagerist.
Not as fun when the rabbit has the gun. Slow clap! The World wanted a war, and Eren gave them one. Can't be crying now that you're losing.
Facts 😂
The alliance showed more mercy to the marlyean soldiers when they had to rescue eren than their own comrades jaegerists
I 100% agree. I felt like I was watching the villains of the story. This is disgusting. I’m a jeagerist.
Me too I felt the same way watching this episode
Ironically, what the Alliance did was further perpetuate the cycle of hatred and oppression 😑😑
They try to paint the alliance as these heroes triumphing over thief foes and doing heroic things when they really are just defectors and nothing more at this point. The rest of the world is paying for their cruelty towards Paradis, yet the alliance is doing damage control for the sake of “morals” when diplomacy hasn’t been an option since they declared war on Eren and Paradis. Actually, diplomacy was never an option. The whole reason this anime/manga even started was because Marley was sending Titans to Paradis to terrorize them.
You're right BROWNS. The message of "conflict will never end, blah blah blah" is fucking disgusting in the context of Attack on Titan. The 'conflict' it refers to is the whole motherfucking world wanting one race dead. In this world, Eldians are cooped up behind walls their whole life. They're fed to dogs or eaten by Titans for leaving said walls. And the 'conflict' is Eldians wanted to be treated as human fucking beings. If this series says Eldians, or Eren, are in the wrong for trying to stop themselves from being persecuted because "conflict will never end", then the series is a disgusting piece of trash!!
Its like everyone who condemns erens rumbling completely forgot the context of the story erens genocide isn't happening in a vacuum he didn't just wake up and decide to kill people for no reason it is a direct response to Marley and humanities declaration of war paridis literally has no other means of survival if they did Then yes erens genocide is 100% unacceptable but that isn't the case it's ether he does it or paridis dies , and it's not like the alliance are trying to save both factions they have Apsolutely no plan for saving paridis and they are condemning there own people who they've sworn to protect Hundreds of children who look up to them as hero's to death for what ? To feel better about themselves? To not feel guilty for not saving genocidal racists?
@@Spantzcatdog yes people keep try to use a imaginary civil war to discount a full rumbling but it actually supports it since it would act as a direct punishment he got to save his home, he completed hos goal he won but he can't even be happy with that now he has to live watching his own people pointlessly kill eachother for the next 4 year's but noooooo we gotta thank him for genocide because he did it for his friends and die a martyr.
@@Spantzcatdog if he doesn't deserves one so does rest people in show who killed people armin,mikasa and warriors because ik ur js saying that because hes destroying the world of people who didn't want peace js pure conflict and power and either hates elidians or wants paradise to die.I swear idk why people keep acting like the warriors reiner,armin,mikasa,jean,connie, gabi they are NOO different from eren.Paradise only peace is eren's way and that's js the cold heart truth like it or not,Alliance is fuckery.
Mikasa's little massacre was so over-the-top brutal, it reminded me of Afro Samurai. I love Afro Samurai, but Afro is NOT a character we should look up to. He's a mindless, emotionless killing machine whose whole personality has been consumed by revenge. I even think Afro went too far with some of his kills, and I've heard he's even more brutal in the manga (which I still need to read).
Like Mikasa, Afro also doesn't speak in full sentences and likes to decapitate people. But unlike Mikasa, who doesn't know why the fuck she does anything, Afro's misguided goal is completely his choice. And in Afro's defense, his victims are trying to kill him for a stupid headband, not defend their nation from genocide. Congrats Cringe-kasa, you're worse than a character who wasted Samuel Motherfuckin' Jackson's voice!
Mikasa activating the thunder spears on the guy who's basically already dead was so unnecessary. Gave me Annie vibes from when she killed the scouts. She didn't show any remorse. Even the Jaegerists were hesitating and they're the heartless monsters? Makes no sense.
Every other plan shown wouldn't have worked, and earlier in season 4, Armin admits that they lost hope for peace with the outside world by destroying Marley's port.
The outside world blames Paradis and wants to destroy it. Why wouldn't people on Paradis fight against it? Again, every other plan wouldn't have worked. Zeke's plan for obvious reasons, 50 year plan: Kyomi only wanted resources and wouldn't introduce them to other countries and sacrifice Historia and repeat children eating their parents thing all over again. Incomplete Rumbling would result in more hatred from outside world and would (sooner or later) cause the island being destroyed.
What other option is there for Paradis?
Also, not even one member of the Alliance was shot by a stray bullet. And why would Floch even risk keeping the plane?
I swear if the writing of the rumbling arc were the same as the writing of the female titan one, all the alliance members would be dead or unable to do something even before fighting yeagerists
@@annett5 queen of Yeagerists, also known as angel of Paradise, goddess of Survey Corps, Commander of 104th Corps has injured them all very much. Look how all alliance members look exhausted and done .
Funny thing is none of the clown alliance members died or even got injured while fighting and the only one who died Magath that too by suicide 🙄😂😂
You kidding me they were very injured by our beloved queen of Yeagerists. Watch more careful next time
Oh no, see, like, the line of 'defense' I'd have for Mikasa and Mikasa's behavior is characterization consistency. Mikasa has trouble caring for anyone but Armin and Eren, and right now she apparently convinced herself the latter must be stopped. She's absolutely a psychopath towards almost everyone and anyone else, and has been for most of the series. I have some sympathy for someone who run themselves into a headspace like this and is now in such a position, but calling her anything short of absolutely mental is underselling how messed her process of connection to others is.
Spoiler : By the way, this is one of the things I like about the ending, which I overall am meh towards -Mikasa actually gets an arc.
The whole 'wait who're the heroes' is also why I think Isayama messed up the ending by trying to recontextualize it from 'Eren goes villainous' to 'Lelouch plan'. One claim from Isayama I heard is that he didn't really change the ending past rethinking what he originally intended it to be when the series blew up and needed something more fulfilling than 'Mist, but Japanese', but he did change how he thought about it. My personal theory, which will be absolutely obliterated if there is an AoE mind you, is that Isayama fully intended Eren to be the extremist yet lose at 80% rumbling because of something more consistent than Lelouch Plan (blindsided by his friends or maybe making a split second choice to die when seeing the alternatives with Founding power), but because he realized that would really make a character readers followed since chapter 1 feel irredeemable to some (Genocide bad) while a justified extremist to others (which would be controversial) he kinda weaseled out and created Lelouch Plan.
I felt absolutely nothing this episode. The suspension of disbelief is beyond destroyed. The basis for this bloodshed is entirely unjustified in the first place. The inconsistent and awful writing has entirely taken me out of the story. What is the objective of the Yeagerists at the port? If the Azumabito were held captive, they could simply rebuild new planes, post-Rumbling. Why does Floch take the risk of keeping the plane intact? As he tells Kiyomi, planes aren't entirely that important. The threat of the outside world is negligable post-Rumbling. Why doesn't Daz or Samuel explode the plane by shooting the explosives? The switch isn't necessary. A bullet would spark the TNT. Why not send a small team to destroy the plane while keeping the Azumabito safe in Shiganshina? It seems that this situation is purely devised to perfectly justify how the Alliance can catch up to Eren. But how does the Alliance reach Odiha? Wouldn't they cross the Rumbling if they were to reach Odiha before the Colossal titans? How would they survive the mass titan steam from hundreds of Colossals? Why do all of the Yeagerists have horrible aim? They're all trained by the military? Then Magath, Jean, and Gabi never miss a shot? How does Gabi's shot stop Floch's already aimed thunder spear (his arm is already down)? Why are the Yeagerists on the other roofs watching Mikasa and Connie massacre their allies? How does Connie kill 8 Yeagerists before one can throw a single thunder spear at Annie or Reiner's defenseless titans. How does not one stray bullet hit any of the Alliance or Azumabito? How does Shadis reach the train? He was surrounded by Yeagerists at the Fort in Shiganshina in ch.125 with no ODM gear. Surely, the Yeagerists would imprison or execute Shadis? I could go on and on. Isayama is completely unconvincing in his execution.
See now, you're thinking logically, the problem is that you're not thinking hackologically like Isayama did when he wrote this trash.
Oppsie
connie suddenly being an ackerman was the most ridiculous shit ever. i can suspend my disbelief for levi and mikasa, they're superhumans. but the sudden attempt at making connie useful unrealistically was too much
Isiyama is not wrong at all,, this is what shounen really like.. so if he end this series with shounen way, its not his fault,, because its a fuckin shounen.. so shut up and enjoy the fuckin show.
They make Mikasa face look fat
This episode made me realize just how good of a character and person Floch is.
The alliance forgot their working with the people who killed Eren's mother and say genocide is bad
I like how mappa portrayed the alliance as villaonus and the yeagerists just people trying to survive...unlike hacksayama
This just isn't realistically written. In the real world a nation after killing billions of people can't be forgiven. Mikasa and co would know that and would never join the alliance. Iseyama realized that and added the extra pages.
Also diplomacy wasn't properly attempted.
Added the extra pages and made it even worse😂
This is anime Dumbass ofc it isn’t realistic
Who is isuama? It’s Russian show series.
Floch is the hero of this episode.
Tbh if I were an eldian I'd just mind my own business while Eren went off 😭 the mental gymnastics done in the end of this story has me heartbroken. I held onto aoe hope but now I see how impossible it will be esp given how so many people are somehow pleased with the conclusion?!?!
AT LEAST WE HAVE EACH OTHER 😭😩
Now imagine marley somehow getting founding by killing eren and whole world comes to conquer paradis , as if reiner , pieck , gabi or magath would side with mikasa ,armin or paradis at that point , that's why this team is just cringe and stupid
Great video. I had the same feelings as you. Especially when you said the part with Shadis, Conny, Mikasa and Jean having nothing to lose like family on Paradis so they don’t care about it’s demise. I was thinking about that the whole time throughout the episode with Mikasa and all of them being emotionless. Thats the truth everybody trying to avoid
As you said the only way to truly support the alliance objectively is if the rumbling wasn't the only way to save paridis of they had a actual solid plan that didn't A rely on unreliable people and use one of your own or B have your entire race die out through sterilization then yes the rumbling is 100% wrong and eren shouldn't be doing it but that isn't the world of aot.
Yup
People need to stop throwing the term fascist so lightly. Its better to say dictator or authoritarian instead.
Exactly people keep tossing around Buzz words making them lose meaning Floch is the only potential " fascist" but he does not represent the Yeargerests as a whole they don't all share his beliefs or complete desires most of them are just scared kids desperately trying to save there homes .
Anime only scene with simpkasa slaughtering her own people more brutally 🤮😂😂
How some shitanime is related to this amazing fantastic Russian series ??????
In my honest opinion, Eren should have grinded them into fertilizer
After the Rumbling was sabotaged by the Alliance, 20% of the survivors of the rumbling destroyed Paradis for bloodt revenge Is straight up annihilation launching nuclear weapons.
Literally proved Floch and the Yeagerisy right. These stupid ending defenders are breathing the oxygen tank of copium and doing damage control of Isayama's horrible ending retcon the whole story.
Wouldn't it have been great and more morally grey if yams wrote new characters from the jeagerists side that we follow since the beginning of s4? Like not with Daz and Samuel for the sake of one ep. He introduced yelena, most of the warrios, etc all in s4 and they've been written rlly good for the most part, so why not make sympathetic characters in the jeagarists? The ones that join to ensure the safety of their family n all that. They actually have something to care about instead of the mostly orphan alliance that don't give a damn about paradis's survival. I do care for every one of those npcs that got massacred by the alliance but most of the audience are just like "fck them, they're cruel xenophobics and fascistss" because they don't know more about them. only floch is an actual sympathetic character that had proper development since s3 but even he is despised by most fans..
Alliance of scouts and warriors vs floch and actual jeagarist characters followed in s4, would've been phenomenal.
I still don't understand why people hate Floch?😂😂 Maybe because of his hair or because he told the truth back in s3 and wanted Erwin to be revived instead of clown Armong 😂.
@@phoebepaige1619 it's a sin apparently to love morally gray characters that oppose the main squad 😒 before I was quite neutral on floch but man, s4 has me hyping him up and shit!!
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"I have no FUCKING respect for the Alliance"
I respect YOU for saying that
I have seen so many reactions,and when i see people that make fun of floch and cheer the alliance,i understand that half of the aot fandom are fake and fans just becasue of the fame of the anime,they just like to see good animation and titan fights,and not the plot of the story,if we dont get aoe i will gladly say that AOT has the worst ending in the whole anime history, next episode is the main one,if its the same is over
Based
@@Spantzcatdog it was, but just get ruined in the final arc
@@Spantzcatdog No buddy, you are delusional to not see it, idk if you watched correctly the thing but ok, now with the fumbling arc and trash ending, yes i would say that was not great
@@Spantzcatdog The fuck ?? Season 3 was peak imao, why did you even watched the S4 ?
@@Spantzcatdog simple isn't exclusive with good, plot did start to get more complex but just because you can't keep up doesn't mean it's bad
Honestly I’ve read so many comments saying, “Eren shouldn’t do genocide it’s wrong, it should’ve never been an option” , but what other options did he have. The whole world hates Eldians and wants them wiped off the face of the planet. Did you want him just to sit back and watch all his people and his close friends die as well? It seems like those people would’ve rather Eren just side with the rest of the world to wipe eldians out or do it himself and just rumble the island instead. It just doesn’t seem like those people would be happy with any decision chosen by Eren at this point.
I’m obviously on Eren’s side and yes he is being VERY extreme but I just can’t betray him now. I’m not really on the Yeagerists side (Flochs side) since he has become power hungry but I respect that he actually cares for his people and isn’t backing down like a coward. I also don’t think all of the Yeagerists are like Floch in the sense that he wants to rebuild the Eldian Empire, but most have just been pressured to follow his narrative because they know it’s the only way for their survival. So I don’t blame Floch and their decision to want to live and defend the only chance of their survival.
Also they had 4 years to plan something, and they only came up with one plan? How did they not come up with multiple plans to defend the island or make peace/alliances with other countries that were against Marley? It just doesn’t seem realistic to me, they should’ve been more urgent and proactive. You’d think Armin, whose supposedly a genius strategist/planner, would come up with something, but he didn’t. They really dumbed him down.
I probably would’ve used the Rumbling as a last resort, I would’ve been more proactive in making plans to save my people by others means such as using the islands natural resources as a bargaining chip to form alliances with other countries that opposed Marley. Like the middle eastern coalition that was fighting Marley in a war at the beginning of this season. Join them, help them push back Marley, which in return deters the invasion of Paradise for awhile longer so that Paradise can develop enough to be able to defend itself from such invasion. They could’ve also used Mikasa’s status of being a princes of some sort and natural resources as a way to sway the Azimobitos (I don’t know if that’s how you spell it) to allow refuge for all women and children at least.
Anyways the story has really got me fucked up and feeling uneasy, especially after the latest episode
If they bargain with their natural resources then what will Paradis do once it's finished?😂 And the middle eastern soldiers hated eldians same as Marleyns since the Marleyns sent titan to every country to invade them. They will take all the resources and slaughter everyone on the island and also very soon Marleyns could've even make nuclear bombs since they are far more advanced then the Paradisians
@@phoebepaige1619 yeah I totally get what you’re saying. I just hate how Hange and the rest are now complaining about Eren’s decision, when they themselves couldn’t even come up with anything better. At least Eren’s plan guarantees everyone on Paradises safety from threat from the outside world.
Erwin should have been the one to came back.
We can thank Isayama's BAD WRITING for all the sh& we have to endure. Especially the whole fight between alliance and Jeagerist, it was a total *asspull* ! How ? Well we have just a few measly people going up against a freaking army of trained soldiers equiped way more powerful weapons ! And yet they somehow won... What in the actual- !? No matter how I see it, they should have lost ! For some reason, the Jeagerist soldiers have storm trooper aim all the sudden, but alliance have aimbot instead(I'm looking at you, Gabitch.). Like, there's dynamites attached on the Flying Boat ! All it takes is one simple bullet to hit those dynamites and boom ! The plane and the ship is destroyed, the Jeagerist should have won ! But nope, Isayama granted everyone in the alliance Reiner's Plot armor and nerfed the poor Jeagerist soldiers into storm troopers ! And the most frustrating thing is that, how can Mikasa, Connie, Jean forgive Gabi so easily!? One moment, Connie is thinking of feeding Eren to his mom just because Eren laughed when Sasha died ! And yet now the actual murderer of Sasha is in front of him, he's ok with her !? Come on, Yams ! Here's the thing, Isayama is trying very hard to force us the viewers to like Gabi and hate Floch. But guess what ? I don't like being forced ! So I hate Gabi more than ever while I am now practically worshipping King Floch. Great job, Isayama... What a masterpiece of a story you wrote. **Slow Clap**
I see people comparing Levi to Mikasa. I thought the point of Levi fighting against Kenny and his squad was out of self defense.
Yeah it clearly was self defense tbh. Like everytime Levi has some type of dialogue it’s usually about his fallen comrades and how their deaths were not for nothing. Mikasa in AOT has only cared about eren 😭
@@stonecoldpunk1515 that’s what I thought. So I don’t understand why they’re comparing the two, when they aren’t. Then again, they’re the same people comparing Eren to her as well
@@titanblade3706 fax. I don’t even hate Mikasa as a character. I just think the writers sold the bag when it comes to her development from s1 to s4 . Like all she is known for is defending Eren. I’m not even a big fan of Armin but at least he has had great moments especially in season 3.
Mikasa is nothing like Levi. Levi has never been about having a goal (besides fulfilling his promise to Erwin about killing Zeke). And that's his only goal just because of his loyalty to Erwin. Other than that, his entire life has just been about him following the wave and seeing where it takes him.
I don't even think Levi necessarily completely disagrees with Erens plan, but he's with the alliance because Erens plan disrupts the status quo too much for Levi. Remember, Levi never cared all that much about going outside the walls. He was always just following Erwin's lead. To see past the walls was Erwin's dream. Not Levi's. Levi has never had strong views or outlooks on anything. His mindset was always "if it happens, it happens" from the get-go. Even down to the coup in season 3, Levi would have never acted if Erwin never instigated.
Mikasa on the other hand, has done a complete 180 for her character. All of a sudden she's an independent person with strong views on things? Get the fuck out of here. Mikasa was always a 2D character AND IT WORKED. Now they're just trying to turn her into something she's not for the sake of "development". It would have been a WAY better dynamic if Mikasa was still supporting Eren and a was a jeagerist, but she also didn't agree with what he was doing either. But she still had to do what he says and protect him because it's in her blood.
@@Austin2Sexy Levi’s goal is the same as Eren’s. Fighting for freedom so his comrades didn’t die in vain. Though Eren is fighting for freedom for paradise, his friends, and himself
Is it just me or has anyone else taken a retrospective on this entire story and noticed that Mikasa has little to no character development at all? Even in the ending where she got her first true character arc and it was all for nothing cause of those extra pages...
If i had to make a tier list of AoT characters based on their development..Mikasa would undoubtedly be at the very bottom of it.
It's a shame how well Isayama developed side characters that he forgot to develop one of the main ones..
No hate on Aot it's my fav anime ,
But this episode is worse than I thought like the team alliance is killing their own comrades.
If Isayama thought that it was cool giving Mikasa a baddie kinda scene where she is killing her own comrades one by one without hesitating than I will totally say that he is wrong.
Like someone was saying in the comments this is worse than seeing Itachi killing his own clan.
Mappa even made an anime original scene of simpkasa slaughtering everyone more brutally 🤮😂
Moment of silence for KING FLOCH and a raised eyebrow for the fucking Traitors known as the alliance just know Erwin would be proud of Flochs resolve for the mother land of Paradise island and Eldians and rolling in his grave at the alliance! SMH to Levi a coward who could allow this to unravel! I wonder what Erwin would think watching all of this unfold
I'm sure that Erwin is dying for the second time. But now from embarrassment.
MAPPA really thought they did something good about mikasa slaughtering yeagerists in terms of animations but they literally made them straight villains in these eps. Mappa really forgot that the alliance is what we supposed to cheer for 😂
I also find it funny that people liken the Yeagerists and Alliance to the Axis and Allies in WWII, while completely ignoring that unlike the Alliance, the Allies actually gave a way out to the Axis. I've yet to see any tangible compromise from the Alliance that doesn't involve destruction of Paradis 😑😑
Floch is the goat
Thank you for speaking out! I want to route for the alliance but nothing clicks.
@@Spantzcatdog The story now center's them the good guys, they look like the good guys and a lot of AOT fans are now routing the alliances 💀 obviously, I'm not routing any of them, not even Eren. And even though I enjoy Floch's character, I know his characters has some flaws.
The story is supposed to make us route for the Alliance but Yams didn't execute it well.
The alliance are hypocrites
Marley has been doing pretty good for themselves after 200 years, they got the (power) the (strength) the (numbers) but let’s lie about what really happened about what ended the war and ruin the lives of the Eldians on the mainland and turn their wives husbands and children into titans and lets use the titans on our enemies just like the Eldian Empire did to them. Marley: Yeah 😁👍
😂😂 spot on! They keep using what the eldians ancestors did as an excuse for their horrific actions
The logic 🗿🗿🗿
And then start a war once things stop going out way and blame the small island and attack them so we can finally get the founding titan so we can keep conquering which results in the genocide of 80% of humanity and then never be punished for our actions as paridis suffers from the effects of the war we started .
Here's the lesson I learned from this show: if you find out that someone wants to kill you and your family, just halfway fight back and wait for your death. Life is overrated #praisejesus #murderbad
Few eps back when everyone got turned into pure titans and these same yeagarists helped the alliance to kill them. Imagine being an ally a day and enemy the next day
I can’t stand how mikasa and connie and the other clowns just forget so quickly about all the deaths and massacres that annie and reiner did to the people of paradise and to the soldiers.. mikasa just killing her people in every way she can while she is so sad for cute annie wanting to meet her father !! What about the scouts that annie killed who have families and people they care about !! Isayama is just showing us that those scouts and people who died because of annie and reiner and marley don’t actually have any value and died for no reason giving that annie got in the end everything she wants!!
Based! I hate alliance now even more than while reading the manga.
42 minutes! You know this about to be some heat
I agree, but annie was probably the worst character in the show.
She had no character growth, put herself and her needs before everyone else, betrayed tons of her friends and destroyed them with her bare hands.
And yet she still gets the best ending in the show
First of all I totally agree that the alliance killing all the Jeagerists was excessively brutal, but what if that was the point. Maybe it’s the hopium but i don’t think it would be a stretch to assume that if an AOE DOES happen then it would be beneficial for the story to have the alliance be portrayed as more villainous and deserving of death. It would be so satisfying to have these scenes to shove in the faces of anyone who complains when an AOE kills all of the “Innocent” main characters.
Honestly hope so. They are the biggest hypocrites. Also It made no sense how they were able to fight dozens of ancient battle hardened titan shifters with not a single death.
I want to ask something. If I am not wrong Alliance killing Yeagesrists was not this much brutal in manga, right? Plus Mikasa having blood on her face was not included in the manga, right?
@@mondeepengti8733 yes this anime adaptation was much more brutal than the manga.
@@sb17899 Thanks for telling. If AOE happens, then I want this cringevengers to get the most brutal death in aot history.
@@mondeepengti8733 You are correct, the anime turned it up to 11 with the brutality
Something I just wanted to say that I found on reddit is about the whole you know "If it weren't for the rumbling these people wouldn't be working together!"
If Ramzi didnt know that you know eren and the gang were eldians he probably would have turned against them. And like the dumb arguement that 'Paradise would get ruined because of a civil war'. Not only is that stupid but it would be more accurate for the OTHER side.
Imagine if Paradise island was destroyed right and are the people of paradise are dead. Technology has outgrown the power of the titans and aside from the founding Titan which btw they wouldn't have anymore cause again this scenario eren and Zeke would be dead.
The eldians still living would be doomed like Pieck said. Once the world no longer has use for eldians they are going to be slaughtered like animals.
It's not just the eldians that Marley is racist towards or vice versa. The whole point of Willy Tybur's speech was to unite the world against Paradise and because the other nations are hostile as well. The people from the middle east are shown to hate Marley and vice versa. At the party thing there are people gossiping about Marley's food.
Even when Marley wins Isayama intentionally added the fact that other nations are praising the middle east and not Marley.
Once Paradise is gone does everyone think it's also going to end 100% well for the other side as well?
You get what I mean right?
At least Connie and Jean showed remorse, even Annie and Reiner did, but Mikasa just started killing and became edgykasa
Annie never did tho, she regretted nothing and didn't get any punishment, none of the warriors ever did
people think that the world will talk no jutsu if the rumbling never happens, marley literally start attacking paradis right away
I find it just so strange. In our world, on earth, there are countries that warred for thousands of years and in LESS than 100 years have forgiven each other and are allies. The eldians left the world alone for 100 years, which is a long ass time let’s be real here. And the marleyans STILL persisted. Nah, so many Marleyan apologists, sympathizers basically telling the world to lay down and die if they have to… fucked in the head.
Everything is this episode could have been avoided if the alliance just rode on the cart titan to get to the port faster instead of camping out and talking about their feelings. Also Armin was so big on talking to your enemies before fighting but he didn't even try to talk to the Yeagerists to try to get them to understand why they're trying to stop Eren. And Armin could have easily transformed and grabbed all the Yeagerists and put them in a makeshift jail instead of killing people that are mostly just defending themselves at this point.
Eren did not become evil; his crew became cowards.
What was more offensive than this was that everyone Levi included just seems to forget all about all the pain, suffering and death that Annie brought upon them in her Titan form.
There is no way that I’m gonna believe that Levi would’ve ever let her live.
Man you really open my eyes and I agree with all your points, this is something that for some reason me being mesmerized by this show and the plot I never really gave it a much thought, I never really sided with anyone but I always said that if someone asked I was going to say the Alliance but now I’m able to see other watchers point of views, I heard them and now it’s different. Because now me myself I’m analyzing everything, but you really gave me a different point of view of the show.
Isayama screwed the pooch when he made Connie, Jean, Mikasa, and Armin (a group of combat veterans who have seen first hand how evil and racist the rest of the world is, have seen their loved ones murdered in terrorist attacks, and have fought to defend their right to live for years) straight up betray their nation.
You will never convince me that people like that would ever do something so insufferably stupid.
the world matters more than a tiny island of freaks and monsters
@@Smoothkiller358 says a yeager nazi
@@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356freaks and monsters? What are you even talking about?
@@leef4 eldians and their titan power
I just got back from this episode (I wrote a comment about the previous episode). Bro, plot armor galore. All they had to do was blow up the boat. Even the rocket flock shot would've damaged the boat. 🗿🗿🗿🗿
Exactly! They had how many thunder spears? Like everyone post timeskip had an intelligence drop
@@brianechevarria3776 Floch told them to blow up the boat, so why are they fighting the titans?.... Plot armor.
They could've shot a barrage of rockets at the people who worked worked the ship too! Instead, they aimed at the cart titan. They would've destroyed the boat with all that effort.
And are all the yeagerist NPCs on recruit mode? You're telling me not even Connie caught atleast one bullet? The cringvengers are so skilled, that even the best of the yeagerist are inept invalids?
@@jairesemccoy9779 better yet all they had to do was hit the plane at the back. And Yes! Levi in season 3 who is the strongest soldier was struggling with humans in season 3 who had a weaker version of the current anti personel gear. He had to give it his all and use strategy and still had his forehead spilt. The cringeavengers who are all weaker than him solo all the jaegarists without a scratch? Like come on dude.
@@jairesemccoy9779 What is the objective of the Yeagerists at the port?
If the Azumabito were held captive, they could simply rebuild new planes, post-Rumbling. Why does Floch take the risk of keeping the plane intact? As he tells Kiyomi, planes aren't entirely that important. The threat of the outside world is negligable post-Rumbling. Why doesn't Daz or Samuel explode the plane by shooting the explosives? The switch isn't necessary. A bullet would spark the TNT.
Why not send a small team to destroy the plane while keeping the Azumabito safe in Shiganshina? It seems that this situation is purely devised to perfectly justify how the Alliance can catch up to Eren. But how does the Alliance reach Odiha? Wouldn't they cross the Rumbling if they were to reach Odiha before the Colossal titans? How would they survive the mass titan steam from hundreds of Colossals?
Why do all of the Yeagerists have horrible aim? They're all trained by the military? Then Magath, Jean, and Gabi never miss a shot? How does Gabi's shot stop Floch's already aimed thunder spear (his arm is already down)? Why are the Yeagerists on the other roofs watching Mikasa and Connie massacre their allies?
How does Connie kill 8 Yeagerists before one can throw a single thunder spear at Annie or Reiner's defenseless titans. How does not one stray bullet hit any of the Alliance or Azumabito? H
ow does Shadis reach the train? He was surrounded by Yeagerists at the Fort in Shiganshina in ch.125 with no ODM gear. Surely, the Yeagerists would imprison or execute Shadis?
I could go on and on. Isayama is completely unconvincing in his execution.
@@pyrite2060 bro, you just said what I was thinking. Meanwhile, people are sucking off like it's better than a meal Gordon Ramsey made.
King Floch forever 👑. Alliance clowns at the bin.
i somewhat understood wanting to stop eren but my jaw dropped when they decided to to partner up with the warriors?? absolutely sickening. all they do is talk about their dead comrades and you think they would approve of you fighting alongside the armor titan and the female titan LMAOO. also going this hard to protect people that would kill you otherwise if it were not for eren my god they give me a fucking headache
Honestly, I think Isayama made a HUGE mistake by writing post-timeksip Floch with such a "performative" personality. For the general audience, any real arguments he makes about Eldia and the utmost care he takes in protecting its people are overshadowed by his comically evil smiles every damn time he takes a key action for Paradis. Why write the only other face of the Jaegerist perspective like he's a moustache-twirling villain?! It's almost like he is specifically this way to skew the audience's perspective toward the Alliance. As if their argument was too weak for it to speak for itself...
Honestly, his Saturday morning cartoon villain aura made me fuck with him even more lmao. Every time he did some creepy smile or just did some uncalled for shit for no reason, it just made root for him more because he was so interesting to watch on screen. I get what you're saying though. But I also like how Floch is the way he is. After all, when he gives his speeches, his face may look crazy but what he's speaking is straight facts.
i feel its also because floch wasnt part of the OG squad since season 1 that many casual watchers dont like him, it annoys them how a coward nobody was able to grow so quick to become a leader with many followers...i bet if jean turned out to be like floch many casuals wont feel the same way
I would respect the alliance if it didn't include Marleyans. It would make sense that they don't want to be exactly like the people who have tormented them over the last few years. All the scouts and innocent people that Marley killed mean absolutely nothing to everyone who joined the alliance.
The video I was waiting for, but the Mikasa scene was crazy Jesus Christ what's her problem shit was unnecessary
This weekend, I saw the Hafþór Björnsson vs. Eddie Hall fight and got offered a new job. Now, I get to see BROWNS and chief tear this episode to shreds!
THIS IS THE BEST WEEKEND EVER!!
why did ymir made reiner and annie's titans after this point. it would be hilarious to see their powers dont work for a sudden
Nailed it. I 1000% agree.
I did hear a good point that Floch "betrayed Paradis" first because he had a hand in Zeke poisoning the old Scout regimen. But i understand why they had to.
Had to the old scout regiment are useless and were taking too long to take action
The Government was taking too long to move things and plans to have Eren eaten.
They are trying to lie to the masses again and again. I can't blame them honestly.
Im glad I saw this, Yes the fighting and animation is cool, but the context is gross. Floch and the Yeagerist deserve better.