1997: Short ARCHIVE video in connection with LUL Power Supply.

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  • Back to the closing-overs of the last Century now with this archive footage from the now defunct (absorbed) SeeBoard PowerLink organisation.
    It explains the Safety benefits of the Fourth Rail system(s) of railway power supply against that of the Third Rail system(s), particularly when it comes to railway Safety in deep-level tube tunnels.
    TO BE VIEWED IN A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE ONLY.
    Finchley Warburton-Oaks.

Komentáře • 40

  • @DaimlerSleeveValve
    @DaimlerSleeveValve Před 3 lety +10

    This film was made around the time that LUL were moving from their own power station to power from the grid, at that time the local supplier being the South Eastern Electricity Board (SEEBOARD). That meant that their generating station at Lots Road could be sold off, bringing a huge cash windfall. A large riverside plot in Chelsea can not be found in the average estate agent's window.

    • @crossleydd42
      @crossleydd42 Před 2 lety +1

      So that's why they abandoned Lots Road!

  • @darkgreenambulance
    @darkgreenambulance Před rokem

    This information is so gripping! So many aspects covered on the four rail system. I really appreciated this video. Many thanks indeed.

  • @MervynPartin
    @MervynPartin Před 4 měsíci

    Very interesting video and well presented.

  • @ricktownend9144
    @ricktownend9144 Před 3 lety +2

    Fascinating - a whole extra dimension of system detail

  • @prof.hectorholbrook4692
    @prof.hectorholbrook4692 Před 3 lety +5

    So, that's how the Underground is powered. Interesting. Thanks.

  • @TheKnobCalledTone.
    @TheKnobCalledTone. Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for curing my insomnia.

  • @wilsonflood4393
    @wilsonflood4393 Před rokem

    Very informative

  • @1963TOMB
    @1963TOMB Před 2 lety +1

    I remember when the 92TS trains were introduced on the Central Line. There was an issue with tripping breakers when these new trains were on the Hainault loop. Everyone and his dog were out on the track looking for the signs of a faulty cable: it turned out to be a fault on a cable leaving Lotts Road power station.

  • @JintySteam1
    @JintySteam1 Před 2 lety +2

    I bet compared to the video editors of today, that 1997 video was more tricky to edit than it would be today. :)

  • @srfurley
    @srfurley Před 3 lety +1

    It’s not only the Underground. The Ex LMS d.c. lines in London, the Watford new line and the North London line were originally 4 rail, but were converted to 3 rail around 1970. I don’t know about the Merseyrail d.c. lines.

  • @Richardincancale
    @Richardincancale Před 3 lety +5

    7:35 isn’t 11kW an error - they need to re-issue this film!!! By Ohms law (V^2)/R the power would be 630^2 / 300 = 1.323kW. If it was 11 kW the little wooden enclosures would be pretty toasty!

    • @EssArrB
      @EssArrB Před 3 lety +2

      Yes, but if a fault shorts the 200 resistor then the full 630V is across the 100 Ohm resistor, the dissipation is then 630^2 / 100 = 3.969kW. Still nowhere near 11kW

    • @maninacave
      @maninacave Před 2 lety +5

      I think the video chap may have made a wording error. I believe EssArrB:s calculation of 3.9kW is correct. The resistors would probably be RATED at 13kW, giving a safety margin of 3:1, rather than consuming 13kW.

  • @sloopjohnb7271
    @sloopjohnb7271 Před 2 lety +2

    I am in Australia now but worked out of Watford Junction Power Box, S&T Lines T/A. 1970/71/72.
    Just wondered if your name has anything to do with the Town of Watford?

  • @crossleydd42
    @crossleydd42 Před 2 lety

    Not just the South of England, Liverpool also has third rail.

  • @majorpygge-phartt2643
    @majorpygge-phartt2643 Před 3 lety +4

    And just in case any wannabe graffiti artists or other would be trespassers are watching this, beware, the tracks are LIVE 24/7! They DON'T switch it off at night as is too commonly believed in some quarters, except for short sections being worked on.

  • @tallslimguy
    @tallslimguy Před 2 lety +2

    48 seconds intro a bit excessive 😳

  • @majorpygge-phartt2643
    @majorpygge-phartt2643 Před 3 lety +1

    All very interesting, but how do they manage on other underground systems like merseyrail and glasgow undergrounds where they only have the third rail? And isn't it the same on other systems abroad like the New York subway system?

    • @jslonisch
      @jslonisch Před 3 lety +2

      They manage because the three rail only system is not as bad as was originally thought when they chose 4 rail for London. But the third rail only systems have higher costs in the form of more corrosion, more signal interference and more power interruptions, so they don’t totally “get away with it”.

    • @MervynPartin
      @MervynPartin Před 2 lety +2

      3rd. rail was used on the Waterloo & City tube line for most of its life until the old (Southern Railway) trains were replaced by Central line clones when the 4th rail was installed to avoid altering the trains. Also the Northern City line to Moorgate was converted to 3rd. rail when taken over by British Rail

  • @Stormwatch153
    @Stormwatch153 Před 3 lety +1

    Why is rope tied to the door? Is it some sort of advanced grounding in your house?

    • @Landie_Man
      @Landie_Man Před 2 lety

      Maybe to stop the family barging in

    • @voidxaether
      @voidxaether Před 2 lety +2

      Testing phase of the squeaky doors silencer mk. 97

    • @ukmusichero
      @ukmusichero Před 2 lety +1

      it's the emergency cord

  • @wilsonflood4393
    @wilsonflood4393 Před rokem

    How do they check circuits at night with all night running?

    • @wilsonflood4393
      @wilsonflood4393 Před rokem

      I meant in the tunnels. Used to be done when no trains were running.

  • @Sterlingjob
    @Sterlingjob Před 2 lety

    How do bleed resistors work? Is it from positive or negative rail!?

    • @pjeaton58
      @pjeaton58 Před 2 lety +1

      Both - see the circuit diagram in the video at 7:51

  • @TheDiveO
    @TheDiveO Před 2 lety

    if underground is unearthed ... isn't underground then ungrounded? *snicker*

  • @London1064
    @London1064 Před 3 lety

    Would like to get this on a disk

    • @Martindyna
      @Martindyna Před 2 lety +2

      I recommend 4k Video Downloader

  • @ianhudson2193
    @ianhudson2193 Před 3 lety

    Its subtle, but does anyone think this is produced by OPP?

  • @Gary0557
    @Gary0557 Před 2 lety

    Thos looks like 1920's stock.

  • @SimonBauer7
    @SimonBauer7 Před 2 lety

    so they just made everything needlessly complex just because they wanted something different than every. other. country. typical britan