Hi Jacob, about the heat problem: two modifications should be useful: 1. delete the fake vents (you can find here on youtube. I have also cut this out on my Tuareg and now the air can flow through and the hot air can also be discharged by the fan. Makes sense in any case. 2. Replace the waterpump with the Jetprime waterpump. This is a different waterpump for more performance. The fluid will be cooler. The operating temperature of the engine decreases and the power increases. Please keep making your helpful videos. We all benefit from them. Thanks
I have one with a few thousand miles on it. Best bike I have ever owned... This is Number 22. Zero problems. all bikes can break. It seems that some of us are getting good ones that perform flawlessly.
Nice job with the video, and honest assessment. After purchasing my 2023 Tuareg 660 I saw this video! However if events were reversed and I saw your video first, I don’t think it would have changed my purchase decision. I spent a great deal of time researching the T7 (have never seen one on a dealers floor), Trans Alp, Suzuki DE800, KTM 790S and 390 ADV, and for me the Aprilia was the best choice. As you say, the Aprilia might turn out to be the finicky “sports car” indulgence, and I appreciate the heads up on some of its issues. However, if that’s the case it’s remarkable that you see so many CZcams videos of people doing off-road and BDRs on these bikes, as you are. 100% get it that people want a rock solid bike that will never present a problem to the owner, and I have a bike like that in a 2008 VStrom 650, but it’s also important to have fun while riding. The Aprilia comes with a 2 yr warranty, and I might buy the 3rd year warranty. Thanks!
Really happy with mine here in the UK. Its returning over 60 mpg no matter how I ride it. I always use the higher octane E5 in it, so I'm not sure if this makes a difference. The fueling glitch seems to be down to the Euro regs which state that the engine should not be taking fuel when the throttle is closed to reduce emissions. Having said that, I'm sure that Aprilia could have produced better fueling maps if the engineers were given more time before bringing the product to market. The handling is excellent and seems like a halfway house between a KTM 690 Enduro and a BMW R1250GS. It is quite a nimble bike that can bimble about offroad, or accelerate hard up to the red line as necessary. Its really difficult for a bike to become all things to every rider, but I think the Aprilia Tuareg comes the closest yet for its given use. Thanks for the great vids.
Exactly... the "throttle glitch" happens, when rolling off the throttle and slowly transitioning between load and "pushing" (not sure about the english term) or the other way round. It never happend under load for me. It is still annoying. Regarding the mpg: don't forget, that 60 UK mpg are 50 US mpg. That's prettt much the same that I get as well here in CH (4.6l/100km) on average. On longer tours through the mountain passes without city traffic I even get around 60 US / 74 UK mpg (3.9 l) ...driving really hard.
I like your comparison between a 690 and a 1250, would you say closer to the 690 than the 1250 ? What kind of technical track the tuareg would not follow a 690 ?
no higher octane makes no difference in fuel consumption. You should only use what your engine is designed for, putting less octane in risks detonation, putting higher octane does absolutely nothing more than just hurt your wallet
@@Galf506 electronic injections are mapped for 95E10, meaning a gas with up to 10%ethanol and 95 octane grade. Using 98octane with only 5%ethanol, which mean higher energy potential, may result in higher consumption as the richness and ignition advance from map is not optimized for it. Though difference is minimal, and less detonation risk is a good feature in a high compression ration engine like tuareg. For those removing the catalytic converter, bigger gas flow should need a remap, if not using a 98octane grade could help.
Good review. I have 5k miles on my Tuareg and fortunately have not had any gasket issues (I did wrench on all exposed bolts after 3500 miles and found several “opportunities for improvement”…). I am coming off a T7 (put 8k miles on that) and the Tuareg is just a better handling machine (largely due to lower CG…though it’s worth noting I am not 6’7” like Pol, so may not have been able to get as much out of it) Combine that with electronics (including cruise control) and tubeless tires and I am very happy with it.
I upgraded the Regina O ring chain because it just rusted regardless of how much you cleaned it with 6 in 1 … I upgraded that to a DID x ring gold series chain and it’s much cleaner now and it adds appeal lol … I also upgraded my slip on to a Leo Vince L1 carbon along with a re map and it eliminated the euro emission hick up it had …. The center stand also is a must have it makes the bike more accessible to load properly , service / maintenance , tire changes etc much easier … Awesome video man thank you so much for this also . This is a good heads up for us who have yet to expect the issues to be prepared for them . I remember when the 950 adv first came out in 01 .. I had one of the first … we basically all went through the same thing together sharing experiences on KTM talk …. Literally we are pioneers of the Tuareg as we have the first year of the model . Thanks again for dropping this video .
For all these people moaning about heat. Get used to it. ALL modern bike run lead AF ratio. With Euro 5/6/7 compliance that will not improve. Euro 7 is basically legislation to REMOVE fossil fuel burners from the road but making it so hard for manufacturers to pass regulations they simply look for other means to sell vehicles. BEV, HV, Hybrid etc etc. Look at the new Suzuki Hyabusa, lean and makes LESS power than the out going model. All modern bikes could use a flash to correct this. Get used to fixing new bikes!
This is not true. Modern Japanese bikes do not ride as hot as European bikes because they don’t squeeze as much power per cc out of bikes. The T7 doesn’t run hot at all
Thanks for the honest and straightforward review! I'm currently trying to decide between this and T7 or the KTM 890 AR. One side note regarding the video, it'd be great if you could keep the texts (specs, the note about the fuel cap, etc) on for a bit longer. I'm a lazy youtuber and prefer not to have to rewind and pause 😅 Thanks!
To fix the double take mirrors take some heat shrink, either 1" or 1.5" (can't remember which I used) and put it on the ball end of the mirror. That'll keep them from shifting position while you ride
The fuel cut issue is gone go bring it to the dealership and get it updated if you have not already been honestly makes the whole bike feel a whole lot better the fueling seems more responsive it's generally smoother and even Urban mode is peppy
Great Video! I also own this same bike and feel that an emissions delete kit with a modded airbox, full Arrow Exhaust and a dyno tune (using a combo of upmap and a PC-6) will solve the heat, premature gasket wear, and tuning issue. At that point you'll probably love the bike even more... but it will cost around $3,000.00 to $4,000.00! Happy Riding :)
Hello, and thank you for your review ! Would you mind adding a small text in a corner when you give Fahrenheits, Miles and Miles per gallon to translate it into the International unit system for your international audience :) ? For miles it's ok it's a simple multiplication but i had to open converters for the other two ^^ Thank you very much !
Hello guy ! Tours landscapes are fantastics i m very happy to see tours vidéos frew that... I just subscribed to your channel I live in Europe in the South of the France and I bought the same bike as you, fantastic!
Great 👍 updated review, I’m from Australia and was looking at 2 off them today in a “ luckily dealer “ in my town ( a large one ☝️ ) but I always wait for owners long term reviews prior to considering buying bikes . With the heat maybe a aftermarket exhaust to take the cat away , this not run as hot 🥵, stop 🛑 the gasket issue and maybe 🤔 the random stalling ? . Anyway GREAT 👍 review look 👀 forward to updates mate .
I rented a Trident 660 a few months ago in CA and it had a similar fuel mapping issue where it would cut out at certain RPM's and the first few times it happened it was really jarring, especially with cars behind you on CA Highways.
People will be surprised when it comes out that the stutter issue is a throttle position sensor issue. My bike does it around 3500rpm and only when you’re off throttle. That means throttle is barely turned, maintaining a constant speed. The sensor thinks you closed the throttle so it kills the gas. Put your bike in cruise control at whatever speed, rpm that causes the stutter the most. It WILL NOT. stutter because the throttle is closed and the computer is controlling the fuel input, not the sensor. Also, the bike never stutters when your hard on the gas..with the throttle wide open. If it was as simple as fixing a part of the map that was incorrectly fueled, Aprilia would have fixed it immediately. Also, I ride in jeans, and in temps reaching 100 degrees. Yes, the cat is warm but I’m guessing you’ve ever ridden a Harley, where you’re sitting on top of the oil tank. Heat is relative. I just hit 6,000 miles on my way home today and it hasn’t leaked a drop of anything yet. However, I broke it in just like Aprilia said. Not saying that has anything to do about it but I’m pretty sure that’s more realistic than the cat frying the gaskets.
Interesting comment on the AT, having one it is just as easy to switch back and forth between standard drive modes. The 890R was more confusing on that front. The AT is a giant PITA if you want to keep TC and wheelie control off though. Damn vendors. So hard disagree there, but you're doin the WABDR and I just CANNOT hate that lol! Thanks for the review my dude and keep riding!
I could never figure out the AT controls lol sorry maybe it’s not that hard, I’m just terrible with all the buttons and controls coming off old bikes and dirt bikes
We rode past you while you were up on that hill. Group of six of us (Africa twin, 890 adventure r, vstrom 1000, klr650, triumph scrambler 1200, and dr650
The fuel issue is 'dry idle'...no fuel is injected into the engine on over-run if the throttle is closed. Slip the clutch slightly and blip the throttle.
Italian Bikes are famous for loose bolts! Every 6000miles you need to check if they are still torqued to spec. If you check the torque always ad 0,2-0,5NM on top. I rode 3 southern european bikes now. All of them had the same issues. (Heat, loose Bolts, blown gaskets, loose electrical connections, water in the plugs of the wiring harness, etc.) (2× Guzzis, 1x KTM)
Pretty certain that you could take a good cardboard/balsa wood template of a bash/skid plate to your nearest metal workshop or to a 3D print shop and they'd make you something decent and much cheaper than $500!🤨
Great bike, but i'm having a lot of issues... The front wheel rim is "crooked", they tried to change the wheel but nothing happens, so now I'm waiting for a new wheel rim (three months with the problem). Personally, mine cut-off is between 3'800-4'000 rpm and 4'800-5'000 rpm if you stay blocked on that range especially with the second engine map (the one they use for the Explore Mode).
Get an aftermarket exhaust system & simply remove the cat. I did the same with Himalayan-replacing the standard exhaust with a Delkevic. I could have gone a step further & replaced the header pipe as well which is something I'll look at which would remove the pre cat on the exhaust. My economy improved as did my low/mid pull as the engine can breath better. You'd probably notice the same..
@@PNW.Voyager I didn't worry about it in my case as I took the view that with the catalytic converter still present in the main muffler it would make the bike run hotter due to the restriction & it didn't do much for the performance or economy-so in the end I decided it was better overall to dispense with the restriction.
Great review Jacob! I'm on 3800kms on mine (2600 miles) and so far so good. I love the bike! Heat is not that bad on mine but Canada weather might be why haha ;) I was wondering where did you bought those front crash bar?
Nice bike but would you recommend this moped to travel outside of US or Europe? Secondly market value! You sell your Tenere or GS way higher after 1-2 or 3 years!
Hard to say as it would be hard to get parts for the Tuareg in other countries. We will see about the fair market value! I hold onto my bikes for a long time, by the time I’m done with them their not really worth anything. 😄
Thank you for a clear honest review. I would appreciate your review on off-road handling? In a short riding test I felt the front little bit heavy, do you feel the sale ? How about agility ?
Thanks! I will try to make a review with the bike off-road soon. I don’t feel that the front is heavy for a middle weight. Are you coming off a smaller off-road bike? It may feel light to me as I’m coming from adv heavyweights. The bike is very flickable and feels very light once you’re moving. I love that the fuel and weight is down low. It’s definitely not a KTM 500 or 690 :-) It’s much more comfortable vs a 690, but not as off road focused with more creature comforts and wind protection for highway speeds.
@@PNW.Voyager yes, I've seen your vid on your 500excf, I have a 500excf and a husky701. I used to ride a crf1000, and now looking at those middle size adv bikes. I may keep the 500 and replace the 701 by a tuareg: 500 for Alps and Pyrénées tracks, Tuareg for TET in Europe.
Doesn't bode well for long term ownership. I test rode one last weekend here in Australia and noticed the throttle was glitchy / pulsing at low revs. The bike performed beautifully otherwise but I just can't see the value at $22,300. Especially when reliability is an unknown quantity and becoming questionable.
Aprilia just needs to make that little effort to up their game in reliability. Then the Tuareg will be better than a T7. For me, I hate machinery that runs hot. Excessive heat will always deteriorate an engine. And the issue of cheap gaskets. Come on, all that effort to make a winning formula, just to blow it by using cheap gaskets.
@@davidmallia628 I have it too, engine runs hot because it's high compression ratio, blown water pump gasket (oring) 2 times blown oil waterp gasket oring 1 time Im 1000 miles , maybe is dealership fault who knows but it is what it is
Like the Honda CRF450L, all doom and gloom, then you watch John T Young's channel,his maintenance/oil analysis, you'd think he's riding a different bike...same here. If you use this bike like GS owners for a Starbucks run, you won't have to touch it, want to go RTW on it, invest in it, check all torque settings(remember,lots of companies were short staffed due to the pandemic, QC probably isn't as it should be...dealers should be doing their job too?).
Speaking of the heat issue - could a person *wrap with muffler wrap the catalytic area* to move that heat to the rear? i bought some wrap material and when I get mine I will be wrapping it the first day. Your thoughts???
Heat it's a euro 5 problem, even the T7 euro 5 release a lot of heat on the cat zone, some nordens 901 even have problems in the rear shock because of heat released by the cat
This is why you'll never see me riding far from a dealer with an Italian bike. So, I stick to Japanese. Why is the T7 so popular? Among a hundred other reasons, it never breaks down.
I wanted a T7 but couldn't find one to buy for over a year so I got a Tuareg cause I could buy one I might regret it in the future but have been happy so far
@@timm1583 I think Aprillia is much better than Ducati, so I'm sure you will be happy. There are a lot of promising reports on the Tuareg out there. Best of luck with it!
Skid plate, i have same one in black, my welds also cracked like you show... did they send you new one? ... also i just last night installed the gabro map for US, the issue with fuel map is gone and throttle is more snappy and a little more pep... i have just a slip on so did that map with slip on. my current miles are at 2,200 in colorado
That sucks about the skid plate! They replaced it very quickly, but requested the old skid plate in return for the new one. I think I’m going to go the gabro route myself. Riding season is quickly coming to an end here, might wait To see if they go on sale this winter.
Freeze at 3:52 - Are those brake lines running back to the ABS pump or something? bit weird to see them go back into the bike, above the radiator like that.
2023 Technology, gasket is leaking, Italians :( What about catalytic converter can make this gasket problem with its unbeliaveble heat on the right side?
@@PNW.Voyager Oh, right thanks for that - where are you now with it? Ive just seen your wheel bearing failure video - you still happy or has the Toe-Rag gone the distance?
@@Motoeuro it’s fixed and running, I still have a lot of fun with the bike. If you get one make sure to get the extended warranty to save yourself a lot of heartache. :-)
Oh, sorry! After a week riding a 2022 I still couldn’t figure out the controls. The suspension and nose dive was also terrible as well as all the weight up top and highway gearing. I did love the engine and looks though.
have an Africa Twin CRF1100 and the controls are simple...lol...the only bike i would consider after the Twin if i were to go the Italian direction would be the Ducati Desert X...test rode the Aprilia and meh.....the Desert X wants to run and oddly enough feels lighter than the Aprilia which in fact it is not....
Hi Jacob, about the heat problem: two modifications should be useful: 1. delete the fake vents (you can find here on youtube. I have also cut this out on my Tuareg and now the air can flow through and the hot air can also be discharged by the fan. Makes sense in any case. 2. Replace the waterpump with the Jetprime waterpump. This is a different waterpump for more performance. The fluid will be cooler. The operating temperature of the engine decreases and the power increases.
Please keep making your helpful videos. We all benefit from them. Thanks
Thank you!
Wonder if JP velocity stacks would fit and make much difference?
Would a jetprime pump invalidate Aprilia Warranty though ?
@@MultiOutdoorman Iam afraid not. Wait 24 months.
Best Performance, best brakes, best handling, best suspension, superb technology... One word: APRILIA
I have one with a few thousand miles on it. Best bike I have ever owned... This is Number 22. Zero problems. all bikes can break. It seems that some of us are getting good ones that perform flawlessly.
Nice job with the video, and honest assessment. After purchasing my 2023 Tuareg 660 I saw this video! However if events were reversed and I saw your video first, I don’t think it would have changed my purchase decision. I spent a great deal of time researching the T7 (have never seen one on a dealers floor), Trans Alp, Suzuki DE800, KTM 790S and 390 ADV, and for me the Aprilia was the best choice. As you say, the Aprilia might turn out to be the finicky “sports car” indulgence, and I appreciate the heads up on some of its issues. However, if that’s the case it’s remarkable that you see so many CZcams videos of people doing off-road and BDRs on these bikes, as you are. 100% get it that people want a rock solid bike that will never present a problem to the owner, and I have a bike like that in a 2008 VStrom 650, but it’s also important to have fun while riding. The Aprilia comes with a 2 yr warranty, and I might buy the 3rd year warranty. Thanks!
Really happy with mine here in the UK. Its returning over 60 mpg no matter how I ride it. I always use the higher octane E5 in it, so I'm not sure if this makes a difference. The fueling glitch seems to be down to the Euro regs which state that the engine should not be taking fuel when the throttle is closed to reduce emissions. Having said that, I'm sure that Aprilia could have produced better fueling maps if the engineers were given more time before bringing the product to market.
The handling is excellent and seems like a halfway house between a KTM 690 Enduro and a BMW R1250GS. It is quite a nimble bike that can bimble about offroad, or accelerate hard up to the red line as necessary. Its really difficult for a bike to become all things to every rider, but I think the Aprilia Tuareg comes the closest yet for its given use.
Thanks for the great vids.
Exactly... the "throttle glitch" happens, when rolling off the throttle and slowly transitioning between load and "pushing" (not sure about the english term) or the other way round.
It never happend under load for me.
It is still annoying.
Regarding the mpg: don't forget, that 60 UK mpg are 50 US mpg.
That's prettt much the same that I get as well here in CH (4.6l/100km) on average.
On longer tours through the mountain passes without city traffic I even get around 60 US / 74 UK mpg (3.9 l) ...driving really hard.
I like your comparison between a 690 and a 1250, would you say closer to the 690 than the 1250 ? What kind of technical track the tuareg would not follow a 690 ?
I think there is a difference between US and Imperial MPG
no higher octane makes no difference in fuel consumption. You should only use what your engine is designed for, putting less octane in risks detonation, putting higher octane does absolutely nothing more than just hurt your wallet
@@Galf506 electronic injections are mapped for 95E10, meaning a gas with up to 10%ethanol and 95 octane grade. Using 98octane with only 5%ethanol, which mean higher energy potential, may result in higher consumption as the richness and ignition advance from map is not optimized for it. Though difference is minimal, and less detonation risk is a good feature in a high compression ration engine like tuareg. For those removing the catalytic converter, bigger gas flow should need a remap, if not using a 98octane grade could help.
Just purchased my 2024 Tuareg, I will follow your channel, good info.
Good review. I have 5k miles on my Tuareg and fortunately have not had any gasket issues (I did wrench on all exposed bolts after 3500 miles and found several “opportunities for improvement”…). I am coming off a T7 (put 8k miles on that) and the Tuareg is just a better handling machine (largely due to lower CG…though it’s worth noting I am not 6’7” like Pol, so may not have been able to get as much out of it) Combine that with electronics (including cruise control) and tubeless tires and I am very happy with it.
Thanks for sharing those details.
Thanks for the honest review. The reliability is definitely an issue so thanks for telling it like it is.
I upgraded the Regina O ring chain because it just rusted regardless of how much you cleaned it with 6 in 1 … I upgraded that to a DID x ring gold series chain and it’s much cleaner now and it adds appeal lol … I also upgraded my slip on to a Leo Vince L1 carbon along with a re map and it eliminated the euro emission hick up it had …. The center stand also is a must have it makes the bike more accessible to load properly , service / maintenance , tire changes etc much easier …
Awesome video man thank you so much for this also . This is a good heads up for us who have yet to expect the issues to be prepared for them .
I remember when the 950 adv first came out in 01 .. I had one of the first … we basically all went through the same thing together sharing experiences on KTM talk ….
Literally we are pioneers of the Tuareg as we have the first year of the model . Thanks again for dropping this video .
Other people have said the same. Now that I've heard yours, I'm going the T7. Cheers and beers.
For all these people moaning about heat. Get used to it. ALL modern bike run lead AF ratio. With Euro 5/6/7 compliance that will not improve. Euro 7 is basically legislation to REMOVE fossil fuel burners from the road but making it so hard for manufacturers to pass regulations they simply look for other means to sell vehicles. BEV, HV, Hybrid etc etc. Look at the new Suzuki Hyabusa, lean and makes LESS power than the out going model. All modern bikes could use a flash to correct this. Get used to fixing new bikes!
This is not true. Modern Japanese bikes do not ride as hot as European bikes because they don’t squeeze as much power per cc out of bikes. The T7 doesn’t run hot at all
Thanks for the honest and straightforward review! I'm currently trying to decide between this and T7 or the KTM 890 AR.
One side note regarding the video, it'd be great if you could keep the texts (specs, the note about the fuel cap, etc) on for a bit longer. I'm a lazy youtuber and prefer not to have to rewind and pause 😅 Thanks!
Hi Jake. Appreciate you letting me test ride there in Yellow Pine. I’ll get that water crossing shot to ya eventually.
It was great meeting you! Hope you had a safe rest of your trip.
I appreciate the honest review. It’s now off my shopping list.
Okay Jacob, I was subscribed before 1:40, and this is the first viewing of your videos. I like this motorcycle and subject.
Nice honest review, thanks. I keep thinking about getting one of these but there are some concerning issues.
To fix the double take mirrors take some heat shrink, either 1" or 1.5" (can't remember which I used) and put it on the ball end of the mirror. That'll keep them from shifting position while you ride
The fuel cut issue is gone go bring it to the dealership and get it updated if you have not already been honestly makes the whole bike feel a whole lot better the fueling seems more responsive it's generally smoother and even Urban mode is peppy
You're going to want the 106 update and I promise you you will feel the difference.
Great Video! I also own this same bike and feel that an emissions delete kit with a modded airbox, full Arrow Exhaust and a dyno tune (using a combo of upmap and a PC-6) will solve the heat, premature gasket wear, and tuning issue. At that point you'll probably love the bike even more... but it will cost around $3,000.00 to $4,000.00! Happy Riding :)
Important the bike dosent run hot. The heat is coming fron the exhaust pipes and cat.The engine runs normal temps. Great bike loving mine so far.
Hello, and thank you for your review !
Would you mind adding a small text in a corner when you give Fahrenheits, Miles and Miles per gallon to translate it into the International unit system for your international audience :) ?
For miles it's ok it's a simple multiplication but i had to open converters for the other two ^^
Thank you very much !
arrow header kills a bunch of the heat.
Hello guy !
Tours landscapes are fantastics i m very happy to see tours vidéos frew that...
I just subscribed to your channel I live in Europe in the South of the France and I bought the same bike as you, fantastic!
Thanks for the honest review. This is worth infinity more than the longwinded fawning by the sponsored clowns
I love the looks of the bike but I can’t get over the leaks! It looks like a fun bike though
Great 👍 updated review, I’m from Australia and was looking at 2 off them today in a “ luckily dealer “ in my town ( a large one ☝️ ) but I always wait for owners long term reviews prior to considering buying bikes . With the heat maybe a aftermarket exhaust to take the cat away , this not run as hot 🥵, stop 🛑 the gasket issue and maybe 🤔 the random stalling ? . Anyway GREAT 👍 review look 👀 forward to updates mate .
I rented a Trident 660 a few months ago in CA and it had a similar fuel mapping issue where it would cut out at certain RPM's and the first few times it happened it was really jarring, especially with cars behind you on CA Highways.
Thank you, I'll keep riding my 15 year old (carburated) KLR650.
People will be surprised when it comes out that the stutter issue is a throttle position sensor issue. My bike does it around 3500rpm and only when you’re off throttle. That means throttle is barely turned, maintaining a constant speed. The sensor thinks you closed the throttle so it kills the gas. Put your bike in cruise control at whatever speed, rpm that causes the stutter the most. It WILL NOT. stutter because the throttle is closed and the computer is controlling the fuel input, not the sensor. Also, the bike never stutters when your hard on the gas..with the throttle wide open. If it was as simple as fixing a part of the map that was incorrectly fueled, Aprilia would have fixed it immediately.
Also, I ride in jeans, and in temps reaching 100 degrees. Yes, the cat is warm but I’m guessing you’ve ever ridden a Harley, where you’re sitting on top of the oil tank. Heat is relative.
I just hit 6,000 miles on my way home today and it hasn’t leaked a drop of anything yet. However, I broke it in just like Aprilia said. Not saying that has anything to do about it but I’m pretty sure that’s more realistic than the cat frying the gaskets.
As much as you like the bike, THANK YOU for giving me multiple reasons not to buy one. I'll stick with my '22 ATAS.
Interesting comment on the AT, having one it is just as easy to switch back and forth between standard drive modes. The 890R was more confusing on that front. The AT is a giant PITA if you want to keep TC and wheelie control off though. Damn vendors.
So hard disagree there, but you're doin the WABDR and I just CANNOT hate that lol! Thanks for the review my dude and keep riding!
I could never figure out the AT controls lol sorry maybe it’s not that hard, I’m just terrible with all the buttons and controls coming off old bikes and dirt bikes
Really helpful info Jacob, Honda are rumoured to have a new Transalp on the way, maybe 750cc, might be revealed at Eicma this year.
Confirmed yesterday... October 4th '22...750cc twin, class leading power
That Transalp is in the moto news now. But it appears to be more road oriented & not a competitor w the Tuareg or T7.
So simple to fix these issues with new versions in the future. If they fix these little issues this bike would be winner in it's group.
Good advice and assessmnet.Thks.
We rode past you while you were up on that hill. Group of six of us (Africa twin, 890 adventure r, vstrom 1000, klr650, triumph scrambler 1200, and dr650
Awesome!!
i was thinking about this bike, but gasket problem is a big no from me. Thanks for highlighting that problem
Sort out the cooling, JetPrime waterpump/gasket, do the vents, de-cat...good to go!
The fuel issue is 'dry idle'...no fuel is injected into the engine on over-run if the throttle is closed.
Slip the clutch slightly and blip the throttle.
I have the cut-out/hesitation issue when running around 4000 RPM constant speed - throttle not closed. The “Dry idle” doesn’t explain it.
Same here, I noticed it also around 4000rpm, I either downshift or upshift be out of that zone when need to run engine at a constant pace/speed.
I’m on a ‘23 bike and no fueling issues
Italian Bikes are famous for loose bolts! Every 6000miles you need to check if they are still torqued to spec. If you check the torque always ad 0,2-0,5NM on top.
I rode 3 southern european bikes now. All of them had the same issues. (Heat, loose Bolts, blown gaskets, loose electrical connections, water in the plugs of the wiring harness, etc.)
(2× Guzzis, 1x KTM)
Pretty certain that you could take a good cardboard/balsa wood template of a bash/skid plate to your nearest metal workshop or to a 3D print shop and they'd make you something decent and much cheaper than $500!🤨
Great bike, but i'm having a lot of issues... The front wheel rim is "crooked", they tried to change the wheel but nothing happens, so now I'm waiting for a new wheel rim (three months with the problem). Personally, mine cut-off is between 3'800-4'000 rpm and 4'800-5'000 rpm if you stay blocked on that range especially with the second engine map (the one they use for the Explore Mode).
Hi Jacob. Great update on the bike. That overlook was pretty awesome. Would love to ride up the PNW some time.
Get an aftermarket exhaust system & simply remove the cat. I did the same with Himalayan-replacing the standard exhaust with a Delkevic. I could have gone a step further & replaced the header pipe as well which is something I'll look at which would remove the pre cat on the exhaust. My economy improved as did my low/mid pull as the engine can breath better. You'd probably notice the same..
I would, but you risk voiding the warranty. Not worth it in my opinion
@@PNW.Voyager I didn't worry about it in my case as I took the view that with the catalytic converter still present in the main muffler it would make the bike run hotter due to the restriction & it didn't do much for the performance or economy-so in the end I decided it was better overall to dispense with the restriction.
Great review Jacob! I'm on 3800kms on mine (2600 miles) and so far so good. I love the bike! Heat is not that bad on mine but Canada weather might be why haha ;) I was wondering where did you bought those front crash bar?
That’s great to hear! I purchased the Hepco and Becker crash bars at www.motomachines.com
Wow beautiful place
A 12K bike that has oil leaks, runs hot, has fueling problems and takes a week and a half to get a gasket ... but it has pretty colors on the dash!
Decat is a must on this bike
Nice bike but would you recommend this moped to travel outside of US or Europe? Secondly market value! You sell your Tenere or GS way higher after 1-2 or 3 years!
Hard to say as it would be hard to get parts for the Tuareg in other countries. We will see about the fair market value! I hold onto my bikes for a long time, by the time I’m done with them their not really worth anything. 😄
Thank you for a clear honest review. I would appreciate your review on off-road handling? In a short riding test I felt the front little bit heavy, do you feel the sale ? How about agility ?
Thanks! I will try to make a review with the bike off-road soon. I don’t feel that the front is heavy for a middle weight. Are you coming off a smaller off-road bike? It may feel light to me as I’m coming from adv heavyweights. The bike is very flickable and feels very light once you’re moving. I love that the fuel and weight is down low. It’s definitely not a KTM 500 or 690 :-) It’s much more comfortable vs a 690, but not as off road focused with more creature comforts and wind protection for highway speeds.
@@PNW.Voyager yes, I've seen your vid on your 500excf, I have a 500excf and a husky701. I used to ride a crf1000, and now looking at those middle size adv bikes. I may keep the 500 and replace the 701 by a tuareg: 500 for Alps and Pyrénées tracks, Tuareg for TET in Europe.
I get just over 60 mpg imperial gallons UK. I’m easy on the throttle.
Doesn't bode well for long term ownership. I test rode one last weekend here in Australia and noticed the throttle was glitchy / pulsing at low revs. The bike performed beautifully otherwise but I just can't see the value at $22,300. Especially when reliability is an unknown quantity and becoming questionable.
Aprilia just needs to make that little effort to up their game in reliability. Then the Tuareg will be better than a T7. For me, I hate machinery that runs hot. Excessive heat will always deteriorate an engine. And the issue of cheap gaskets. Come on, all that effort to make a winning formula, just to blow it by using cheap gaskets.
@@davidmallia628 I have it too, engine runs hot because it's high compression ratio, blown water pump gasket (oring) 2 times blown oil waterp gasket oring 1 time Im 1000 miles , maybe is dealership fault who knows but it is what it is
@@davidmallia628 agreed. They could've had the best bike on the market.
@@baklcdcvdfv3434r4 pity! Really good bike otherwise.
Like the Honda CRF450L, all doom and gloom, then you watch John T Young's channel,his maintenance/oil analysis, you'd think he's riding a different bike...same here. If you use this bike like GS owners for a Starbucks run, you won't have to touch it, want to go RTW on it, invest in it, check all torque settings(remember,lots of companies were short staffed due to the pandemic, QC probably isn't as it should be...dealers should be doing their job too?).
Almost all bikes run very hot nowadays unfortunately. it's all due to emissions restrictions.
Speaking of the heat issue - could a person *wrap with muffler wrap the catalytic area* to move that heat to the rear? i bought some wrap material and when I get mine I will be wrapping it the first day. Your thoughts???
I’ve heard this helps but you’re better off removing the cat
Heat it's a euro 5 problem, even the T7 euro 5 release a lot of heat on the cat zone, some nordens 901 even have problems in the rear shock because of heat released by the cat
Is there a way to fix that?
@@rvsmairspace6742 take the cat with a direct exhaust.
This is why you'll never see me riding far from a dealer with an Italian bike. So, I stick to Japanese. Why is the T7 so popular? Among a hundred other reasons, it never breaks down.
I wanted a T7 but couldn't find one to buy for over a year so I got a Tuareg cause I could buy one I might regret it in the future but have been happy so far
@@timm1583 I think Aprillia is much better than Ducati, so I'm sure you will be happy. There are a lot of promising reports on the Tuareg out there. Best of luck with it!
I have 165,000 miles on my F650 and it’s made by Aprilia.
@@stevehoward3981 well, for the person that’s done the video, he’s been getting oil leaks and electrical issues. So🤷🏾♂️
Handle bars?… Pro Taper ? What bend?..PITA to install ?
what if we compare Tenere World Raid with Tuareg ??
what suspension is greater then ????
Skid plate, i have same one in black, my welds also cracked like you show... did they send you new one? ... also i just last night installed the gabro map for US, the issue with fuel map is gone and throttle is more snappy and a little more pep... i have just a slip on so did that map with slip on. my current miles are at 2,200 in colorado
That sucks about the skid plate! They replaced it very quickly, but requested the old skid plate in return for the new one. I think I’m going to go the gabro route myself. Riding season is quickly coming to an end here, might wait To see if they go on sale this winter.
Freeze at 3:52 - Are those brake lines running back to the ABS pump or something? bit weird to see them go back into the bike, above the radiator like that.
Wrap the exhaust and cat.
Blocks the heat and moves it out the pipe.
100%
Did you finally get the software updated ?
Any difference ?
Yes, the software update solved the throttle issue.
2023 Technology, gasket is leaking, Italians :(
What about catalytic converter can make this gasket problem with its unbeliaveble heat on the right side?
Hang on..... Gasket failure? Waterpump failure? I'm starting to go off the Tuareg now.....!
The water pump gasket failed not the water pump.
@@PNW.Voyager Oh, right thanks for that - where are you now with it? Ive just seen your wheel bearing failure video - you still happy or has the Toe-Rag gone the distance?
@@Motoeuro it’s fixed and running, I still have a lot of fun with the bike. If you get one make sure to get the extended warranty to save yourself a lot of heartache. :-)
@@PNW.Voyager Cheers Jacob :D
Could get a new header and pipe and remove the cat?
I think that’s the next step. :-)
After trying many italian products i can guarantee i will NEVER buy and italian car or bike. Pizza very good . Wine, decent. Thats it.
Dangerous position 😨
KLR- No probs- does the same stuff without the issues.
No cruise control... Old hands
I have three KLR's... They don't even come close to performing the way my Tuareg does
Was the fuel mapping sorted?
Yes, fuel mapping is all sorted with the newest software update!
Come on you have to know what you paid for the bike.
t7 ftw ,
IN reality isn´t 80 hp but just 68 hp
80 at the crank.
Why would a simple software fix take 3 months? It's 2021...
Heat on this bike is cause it's running lean in close loop to pass emission BS, tune it.
Reliability wise, only Honda.
Buy Honda or Yamaha and never have to worry about reliability.
You don't have to push more than one button to change riding modes on africa twin, lol
Oh, sorry! After a week riding a 2022 I still couldn’t figure out the controls. The suspension and nose dive was also terrible as well as all the weight up top and highway gearing. I did love the engine and looks though.
@@PNW.Voyager are you talking about 22 base model or adventure sports? Stock suspension configurations are just right for someone 75-80kg
@@thelostgeneration2000 the base model. The AS look nice!
@@PNW.Voyager I'm thinking to soften suspension sometimes, and I ride 80% on road. Base africa is really nimble on twisty tarmac roads
have an Africa Twin CRF1100 and the controls are simple...lol...the only bike i would consider after the Twin if i were to go the Italian direction would be the Ducati Desert X...test rode the Aprilia and meh.....the Desert X wants to run and oddly enough feels lighter than the Aprilia which in fact it is not....
Warranty fix’s .. yea , that sounds suss.
Honda Quality is NOT flattering, regarding fit and finish :D
Big fan of the design and dynamics of this bike and almost pulled the trigger on one - niggles and spotty dealer support led me to pass.