Cristal, here is another good tip. When you pull the laundry detergent tray out, look at the inside with a flash light. At the ceiling of the tray slot and you will find tons of mold and mildew in there. Took me about 2 hours to clean it when I first discovered it. Nobody ever bothers to look at the ceiling, they normally just look down the detergent reservoir well.
Oh yea i bought one from someone else and it was really dirty, I cleaned everything, every corner even the bottom of the tray was disgusting, it’s from all the detergent and softener, within time that gets really thick and can clog your pipes or stay there and get ugly 🤮
After reading this, I was like really. Went straight for the washer. First time, I ever took out the detergent tray......holy cr#p...I have some cleaning to do...
I actually put a service call in to have the bellow replaced because of the black mold on it that refuses to come off. That cost is $350.00. I've had the Maytag front loader for 10 years now. I tired what you did here and soaked some rags in bleach and let it sit for about 45 minutes and I was pretty shocked by what came off. There was black on the front bottom of the seal that has refused to come off for years. It actually came off. I did some scrubbing and now the washing machine is doing a normal cycle on hot with the rags and some bleach thrown in. I will be canceling the service call and saving $350.00. Even if there's a little bit of black left it looks way better than it has in years. Thanks Cristal.
I always clean my rubber gasket after each load and keep the door slightly open after the wash/dry cycle in my all in one and i do not have mold. i live in a very hot, humid climate.
Thank you Cristal, this is a life saver. My dad has tenants and they left a new washer moldy in one year. We were so confused because we tried to clean the mold off with all these detergents but now of them worked. We were going to give up and just buy a new washer replacement $1000 and then I just youtubed my problem found your vid and it worked wonders.
If you want to prevent mold on the door seal run the drum clean cycle once a month and use backing soda and after each cycle leave the door and drawer slightly open to prevent mold so the air can circulate through the washing machine and that what everyone does including washing machine enthusiasts like me
Can also use laundry sanitiser if you don’t use fabric softener. Bleach in an empty cycle and putting on 90 degrees is also good especially if your washer heats it’s own water as the temperature steps up the bleach really pulls everything out no scrubbing needed!
Bleach is the best, most effective thing to kill mold!! 👏👏👏♥️ I use it with a baby bottle brush to scrub that rubber gasket AND fits right up under that lip of the rubber gasket to scrub under there too! Works really great!!!
That is a good idea, let it soak for a while. I had pretty bad mold on an old washing machine that I got with the house I bought. I just poured a gallon of bleach into it and put it on heavy / max fill setting and ran that 4 times with hot / cold. That worked pretty well, it still had some residual bleach even after that, but it was mostly gone. The bleach somehow just dissolves the mold
Of all the videos I watched, this was the most beneficial. This is the best idea other than removing the gasket which requires someone who genuinely knows what they are doing and has all the right tools, which is not me. Thank you.
Thank you for this video!!! I'm the one tasked to clean the washer after years of begging my family to leave it open after use. So now there's mold growth and my parents decided to give the machines away bc we got new ones coming in
This is great, thanks so much. Unfortunately I inherited a washer that looked like it was never cleaned. I got it about halfway after hours of spraying bleach and wiping with paper towels. This is a great idea to soak rags with the bleach and stick them in the gasket and on top. I'm gonna definitely try this. Hopefully this can get me the rest of the way.
I buy white vinegar by the gallon just fill up the bleach or softener dispenser with each and every load, takes the hardness out of the water you won't even need fabric softener anymore and it keeps all the pipes and the machines squeaky clean from soap buildup..Best thing you can do. Also put a cup of it in the dishwater standing up on bottom rack. Spot fee dishes, clean pipes and tub. If you do this with every single load there will be nothing to clean later
I don't usually comment on youtube videos... but i had to let you know that this worked like wonders... I recently moved into a new apartment not realizing the washer was disgusting and stinky. Thanks to you and for this video, its all cleaned up and fresh :)
I have a front loader and i HATE it. It grows black mold no matter what. I keep the door open whenever not in use but it just wont go away. I just did a deep clean of my own, but i wish i saw your video first. Soaking the rags inside of the door seal is brilliant. I am definitely going to do that next time.
We just upgraded our machines, but the front loader I had previously was still in immaculate condition (7/8 years old)..... because I also wipe the rubber seal with a microfiber cloth every wash, and I NEVER leave the washer door closed, when laundry isn’t running.... it’s a perfect breeding ground for mold, to be sealed shut, still wet, after washing a load of laundry. Simple and quick regular maintenance, keeps them perfect.......
It is harder when you brush. Just slowly spray around and leave it for 20 to 30 minutes then wipe. If it is not yet well cleaned. Spray again and leave for anothe 20 minutes. Then put baking soda inside the machine and let it wash itself for 14min.
I just moved in a flat. I’m surprised that anyone can leave the washer filled with mold and mildew!! I’ve never in 30 years had any mould in my washer seal! I’m trying your bleach technique now! X Update: I soaked it for about 5 hours and it’s now mildew and mold free! Bless you! I’m really OCD and if I couldn’t clean it I’d replace it for my landlord 😂 and I didn’t have rags as I just moved in so I used dettol wipes and they worked like a charm! X
My front loader looks like the one in this video. I am going to try the rags soaked in bleach for sure! I do have an electric scrubber and a steamer and I have used both without bleach and it Didn't really work so I am definitely trying this out
I got a free washing machine just like this and it looks just like this! I’m so happy I clicked on your video! Now I have to go buy gloves, mask and bleach.🙏🏽💜
1. Use no more than 2 table spoon of HE detergent powder. 2. Don’t use liquid detergent and softeners. These are the main culprits. 3. Wipe the seals and leave your door and detergent tray open after every wash. 4. Run tub clean cycle every month with 100 grams of citric acid powder.
My washer was in an area that I could never leave the door open. I have actually had my gasket replaced one because it started leaking. I have recently moved my washer but the gasket is horrible. I’m going to try to give it a good cleaning so I don’t have to replace it again. Thanks, I’m a new follower.
I have one that I bought from someone else and it’s really dirty and it has a lot of mold I am actually going to try this because I used scrubbing bubbles but it didn’t take anything off and smell still there
My uncle told me after i finish washing to not close the door until the next day because of this. I've had mine 10 thus far and just noticed a little mold in the fold... I do routinely had to clean the detergent holder. It's a pain... they really need to think of a better way to prevent this from happening.
I didn’t even know this existed! I’ve always cleaned my machine with hot water, bleach and brush. But this was when I had a top loader. I just cleaned my front loader for a while today. After I did all of that, I watched a CZcams video recommending AFFRESH 🤦🏻♀️. I just ordered a box. So tomorrow I’ll be spending the day cleaning my machine again lol.
mine is in much worse condition 😖 i have done a few cleanings and it just ends up looking like i didn't clean it at all. I will try your method (sort of already started with pure cheap bleach, i think we will need stronger bleach). Hard water is a pain in the butt...
Hi please can anyone who knows how to open the door. Of whirlpool machine.its not working and it's said that it's clogging.. I donno how to clean coz it's close it's not working.. please need help
For the first.. I've tried to do this around 1 1/2 hrs. After that removed all the tissue paper then dried properly.. Open the door. After 2 & 4 days, I do the same thing. So the result it was very clean.. No matter how u need to used the origin bleach. Do not use the toilet or kitchen bleach.
I just moved into a place I’m renting and was shocked at how horrible the washing machine was. It’s worse than this one shown. Nothing I have done yet has helped so I’m going to try this method. I’m really hoping it’ll work and save me. We haven’t been able to do laundry for the time we have been here so far so I’m hoping this will work. From everyone’s comments so far it seems to be a helpful way.
@@duckula316for me and my washer, it didn’t make much of a difference. I spent hours scraping and scrubbing off the mold and gunk. I think it helps a little bit but I found success with scrubbing with a bristle brush.
First after every cycle leave the washer door open. This will prevent mold from growing. Also very 2 weeks run a cycle of 1 cup of bleach on a quick cycle and your washer should always been in good shape.
Wow, thanks for your effort, and elbow work out, sorry about the paper towel. But I really didn't see all the stains removed. 😔 I think it takes a little more vinegar with baking soda 🤔 nice try 😎👍
Having cleaned mine using just about every technique possible, the best option is really to remove the entire gasket and soak it in bleach water 50/50 for 12+ hours. There is so much in there that you just can’t get to any other way. Yes - it’s a lot of work and can be difficult…. But it does clean it the best.
@@Skywatcher_57 You basically take a spring clamp off that goes around the outside of it. It's not THAT hard and is frankly easy to remove. Getting it back on requires about 4 hands, special tools, or feet and hands as was the case with me. :-)
A little tip for US housewives. When washing whites, simply add a small dash of Jeval or Domestos (chlorine cleaner suitable for washing laundry). Let it rinse with Water in the washing powder compartment for the main wash. About half a capful from a liquid detergent. This way, there are no deposits in your washing machine and your white laundry will be bright white.
Um. Your friend lied to you. This is not hard water and “leakage.” This is keeping the door shut and leaving loads of laundry in the washer over a period of YEARS
Using washing powder is good as they contain bleach, liquid detergent doesn’t, also I stopped using fabric conditioner and this helped, but a wipe round and leaving door open slightly should be done after every wash, in my opinion.
2 glasses of white vinegar into the drum 1/4 of a cup of baking soda + 1/4 of a glass of water into the powder drawer run a cleaning cycle with COLD water!
Also I heard that you should leave your washers door open when not using it because if you close it then the smells stays in there with the washer been closed all the time, let it air out when not in use
depending on the brand and model, removing the seal could be easily done, then just tossing it in a bucket of water and bleach, or the dishwasher would work great. this looks a samsung, so not too easy, but not so bad. just just to look up your brand.
Thats why you dont know how to use a washing machine and only use co, tap coldwarmand liquid tetergent!😩😨😨😨😨 use at least once a weekerta hkt water and powderdetergent for towels bad shit and whites
O sorry 😞 to avoid this problem with the mold in near future, my wife keeps the door open for a little while whipping up the excess water 💧and it works 😎👍
Cristal, here is another good tip. When you pull the laundry detergent tray out, look at the inside with a flash light. At the ceiling of the tray slot and you will find tons of mold and mildew in there. Took me about 2 hours to clean it when I first discovered it. Nobody ever bothers to look at the ceiling, they normally just look down the detergent reservoir well.
I did! Thanks for the tip. There wasn’t much but I wiped what little there was with a paper towel soaked in beach.
Have a Samsung steam machines that will not go on its side
They do I do mine after every use as I do the whole machine including the drain hose and sock at the bottom of the machine
Oh yea i bought one from someone else and it was really dirty, I cleaned everything, every corner even the bottom of the tray was disgusting, it’s from all the detergent and softener, within time that gets really thick and can clog your pipes or stay there and get ugly 🤮
After reading this, I was like really. Went straight for the washer. First time, I ever took out the detergent tray......holy cr#p...I have some cleaning to do...
I actually put a service call in to have the bellow replaced because of the black mold on it that refuses to come off. That cost is $350.00. I've had the Maytag front loader for 10 years now. I tired what you did here and soaked some rags in bleach and let it sit for about 45 minutes and I was pretty shocked by what came off. There was black on the front bottom of the seal that has refused to come off for years. It actually came off. I did some scrubbing and now the washing machine is doing a normal cycle on hot with the rags and some bleach thrown in. I will be canceling the service call and saving $350.00. Even if there's a little bit of black left it looks way better than it has in years. Thanks Cristal.
I always clean my rubber gasket after each load and keep the door slightly open after the wash/dry cycle in my all in one and i do not have mold. i live in a very hot, humid climate.
My Maytag has the same issue. I plan to tackle it in a few days. Thank you
Stay away from side loaders lol
Some think they look cute preppy ☺️ 🥰and futuristic but they are shit!! Just saying
Thank you Cristal, this is a life saver. My dad has tenants and they left a new washer moldy in one year. We were so confused because we tried to clean the mold off with all these detergents but now of them worked. We were going to give up and just buy a new washer replacement $1000 and then I just youtubed my problem found your vid and it worked wonders.
Best cleaning advice I have found for this problem! I clean rental homes and the tenants always let it get this bad, I really appreciate your tips : )
This is why i don’t wash my clothes in rental homes lol
If you want to prevent mold on the door seal run the drum clean cycle once a month and use backing soda and after each cycle leave the door and drawer slightly open to prevent mold so the air can circulate through the washing machine and that what everyone does including washing machine enthusiasts like me
Yes you can buy like 500 g in the iron store, probably not food graded but cheep and excelent for cleaning.
How much baking soda should I use during the drum/tub clean cycle?
Can also use laundry sanitiser if you don’t use fabric softener.
Bleach in an empty cycle and putting on 90 degrees is also good especially if your washer heats it’s own water as the temperature steps up the bleach really pulls everything out no scrubbing needed!
Thank you!!! None of the other videos showed this exact model! I really appreciate you making this video! It was so easy to fix!
Tried most cleaning stuff on CZcams for this,yours was perfect thanks
Bleach is the best, most effective thing to kill mold!! 👏👏👏♥️ I use it with a baby bottle brush to scrub that rubber gasket AND fits right up under that lip of the rubber gasket to scrub under there too! Works really great!!!
Definitely not true. It bleached the mold. Doesn't kill it. Something like concrobium actually kills mold.
Nice tip! Those brushes are nice and thin
This was super helpful! I left mine overnight and it was golden! Thanks again!
That is a good idea, let it soak for a while. I had pretty bad mold on an old washing machine that I got with the house I bought. I just poured a gallon of bleach into it and put it on heavy / max fill setting and ran that 4 times with hot / cold. That worked pretty well, it still had some residual bleach even after that, but it was mostly gone. The bleach somehow just dissolves the mold
Of all the videos I watched, this was the most beneficial. This is the best idea other than removing the gasket which requires someone who genuinely knows what they are doing and has all the right tools, which is not me. Thank you.
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This video is a life saver. I was about to pull my hair out trying to find a way to get rid of the mold!
Thank you for this video!!! I'm the one tasked to clean the washer after years of begging my family to leave it open after use. So now there's mold growth and my parents decided to give the machines away bc we got new ones coming in
With half an hour to do that and after you did that, I couldn't believe how clean it looked afterwards!
This is great, thanks so much. Unfortunately I inherited a washer that looked like it was never cleaned. I got it about halfway after hours of spraying bleach and wiping with paper towels. This is a great idea to soak rags with the bleach and stick them in the gasket and on top. I'm gonna definitely try this. Hopefully this can get me the rest of the way.
Tried this today worked a treat thanks for the good tip :)
I buy white vinegar by the gallon just fill up the bleach or softener dispenser with each and every load, takes the hardness out of the water you won't even need fabric softener anymore and it keeps all the pipes and the machines squeaky clean from soap buildup..Best thing you can do. Also put a cup of it in the dishwater standing up on bottom rack. Spot fee dishes, clean pipes and tub. If you do this with every single load there will be nothing to clean later
I don't usually comment on youtube videos... but i had to let you know that this worked like wonders... I recently moved into a new apartment not realizing the washer was disgusting and stinky. Thanks to you and for this video, its all cleaned up and fresh :)
Great video. Can’t wait to try this tomorrow 🙏🏻
i did exactly this! i’m so glad i watched your video.
Omg this was really helpful
This worked great! Thanks!
Feel like my Tia is teaching meeee aaahhhh I love itttt !!!! Thank youuuu tiaaaaa !!!!
This is awesome! Thank you 😊
It really works.Great video.Thanks
I haven’t found a video this quick and helpful. I’m going to try it i hope it works
This is fantastic!
Thank you!!! I left mines for a hour and it worked.
Thanks for the tips.
I have a front loader and i HATE it. It grows black mold no matter what. I keep the door open whenever not in use but it just wont go away. I just did a deep clean of my own, but i wish i saw your video first. Soaking the rags inside of the door seal is brilliant. I am definitely going to do that next time.
You should clean this after every single wash! mine is 10 yrs old, and never looked like this! I dry after each wash load .
We just upgraded our machines, but the front loader I had previously was still in immaculate condition (7/8 years old)..... because I also wipe the rubber seal with a microfiber cloth every wash, and I NEVER leave the washer door closed, when laundry isn’t running.... it’s a perfect breeding ground for mold, to be sealed shut, still wet, after washing a load of laundry.
Simple and quick regular maintenance, keeps them perfect.......
Yep best advice on this I've seen on CZcams. Just get stuck in with a cleaning cloth!
Thank you so much for sharing your video it was really helpful!
well done ! you rock!
This worked great, thanks!
It was a real chore. Now I dry off the boot seal after each load.
Wow! It worked!!! Thanks!!!
It is harder when you brush. Just slowly spray around and leave it for 20 to 30 minutes then wipe. If it is not yet well cleaned. Spray again and leave for anothe 20 minutes. Then put baking soda inside the machine and let it wash itself for 14min.
Great tip, worked perfectly for me
Thank you for this video!
I just moved in a flat. I’m surprised that anyone can leave the washer filled with mold and mildew!! I’ve never in 30 years had any mould in my washer seal! I’m trying your bleach technique now! X
Update:
I soaked it for about 5 hours and it’s now mildew and mold free! Bless you! I’m really OCD and if I couldn’t clean it I’d replace it for my landlord 😂 and I didn’t have rags as I just moved in so I used dettol wipes and they worked like a charm! X
My front loader looks like the one in this video. I am going to try the rags soaked in bleach for sure! I do have an electric scrubber and a steamer and I have used both without bleach and it Didn't really work so I am definitely trying this out
I got a free washing machine just like this and it looks just like this! I’m so happy I clicked on your video! Now I have to go buy gloves, mask and bleach.🙏🏽💜
Hi Cristal, I just tried your method. It works like magic and you’re the magician. Thank you soooo much!!
1. Use no more than 2 table spoon of HE detergent powder.
2. Don’t use liquid detergent and softeners. These are the main culprits.
3. Wipe the seals and leave your door and detergent tray open after every wash.
4. Run tub clean cycle every month with 100 grams of citric acid powder.
best video on the subject
My friend congratulations, Im so proud and happy for you new channel , keep it up with your amazing job 😉, God bless you, I love you 😘
Geisha Rivero Jones you are the best!!!
My front loader has some mold in various spots.. kinda sick of it. I am looking to replace this with a front loader
I came across your video, I follow your method and I am really happy with the result.
My washer was in an area that I could never leave the door open. I have actually had my gasket replaced one because it started leaking. I have recently moved my washer but the gasket is horrible. I’m going to try to give it a good cleaning so I don’t have to replace it again. Thanks, I’m a new follower.
I have one that I bought from someone else and it’s really dirty and it has a lot of mold I am actually going to try this because I used scrubbing bubbles but it didn’t take anything off and smell still there
Great vid,time to do mine your way, thanks x
My uncle told me after i finish washing to not close the door until the next day because of this. I've had mine 10 thus far and just noticed a little mold in the fold...
I do routinely had to clean the detergent holder. It's a pain... they really need to think of a better way to prevent this from happening.
When I finish do I need to run a cycle after?
Great idea thanku will consider in nr future
What are you in my house 😮! My machine looks just this. Thanks for the tips
I just moved into an apartment and this is the state of the washing machine. It smells so bad and I’ve never ever experienced this before. So sad.
Don’t forget to use the AFFRESH washer tablets once a month! Made a HUGE DIF IN MY WASHER!!!!
I didn’t even know this existed! I’ve always cleaned my machine with hot water, bleach and brush. But this was when I had a top loader. I just cleaned my front loader for a while today. After I did all of that, I watched a CZcams video recommending AFFRESH 🤦🏻♀️. I just ordered a box. So tomorrow I’ll be spending the day cleaning my machine again lol.
mine is in much worse condition 😖 i have done a few cleanings and it just ends up looking like i didn't clean it at all. I will try your method (sort of already started with pure cheap bleach, i think we will need stronger bleach). Hard water is a pain in the butt...
Hi please can anyone who knows how to open the door. Of whirlpool machine.its not working and it's said that it's clogging.. I donno how to clean coz it's close it's not working.. please need help
😃👍🏽. I let the cleaning cloths sit over night. My laundry room smells like a pool
how did you managed to mirror the video image?
For the first.. I've tried to do this around 1 1/2 hrs. After that removed all the tissue paper then dried properly.. Open the door. After 2 & 4 days, I do the same thing. So the result it was very clean.. No matter how u need to used the origin bleach. Do not use the toilet or kitchen bleach.
I just moved into a place I’m renting and was shocked at how horrible the washing machine was. It’s worse than this one shown. Nothing I have done yet has helped so I’m going to try this method. I’m really hoping it’ll work and save me. We haven’t been able to do laundry for the time we have been here so far so I’m hoping this will work. From everyone’s comments so far it seems to be a helpful way.
Did it work
@@duckula316for me and my washer, it didn’t make much of a difference. I spent hours scraping and scrubbing off the mold and gunk. I think it helps a little bit but I found success with scrubbing with a bristle brush.
Gracias señoritas! Cristal
First after every cycle leave the washer door open. This will prevent mold from growing. Also very 2 weeks run a cycle of 1 cup of bleach on a quick cycle and your washer should always been in good shape.
Don't forget to take the detergent tray out at the end of each washing day & wipe it dry. Then leave it open overnight. It will never get moldy.
Wow, thanks for your effort, and elbow work out, sorry about the paper towel. But I really didn't see all the stains removed. 😔 I think it takes a little more vinegar with baking soda 🤔 nice try 😎👍
Can u plz tell the bleach percentage?
Having cleaned mine using just about every technique possible, the best option is really to remove the entire gasket and soak it in bleach water 50/50 for 12+ hours. There is so much in there that you just can’t get to any other way. Yes - it’s a lot of work and can be difficult…. But it does clean it the best.
How do you remove the gasket? Is it difficult to take off and put back on?
@@Skywatcher_57 You basically take a spring clamp off that goes around the outside of it. It's not THAT hard and is frankly easy to remove. Getting it back on requires about 4 hands, special tools, or feet and hands as was the case with me. :-)
you are amazing
A little tip for US housewives. When washing whites, simply add a small dash of Jeval or Domestos (chlorine cleaner suitable for washing laundry). Let it rinse with Water in the washing powder compartment for the main wash.
About half a capful from a liquid detergent.
This way, there are no deposits in your washing machine and your white laundry will be bright white.
Name of the liquid please
I thought you brought a new machine for ur friend, good job !
No need to even scrub ⭐️ Soak paper towels in bleach. Close door let sit 24 hours - perfect.👍
The best thing against mold in a washing machine is prevention. After you have finished washing leave the washing machine door open!
i wish on europe we get this big size bleach really also why we can get big size baking soda
Um. Your friend lied to you. This is not hard water and “leakage.” This is keeping the door shut and leaving loads of laundry in the washer over a period of YEARS
@Dee Vaness Yes
@Dee Vaness 👏🏼you 👏🏼are 👏🏼💯 CORRECT!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼Very poor design!!
Can anyone help me i wash my clothes and they have a shitty kinda smell
Using washing powder is good as they contain bleach, liquid detergent doesn’t, also I stopped using fabric conditioner and this helped, but a wipe round and leaving door open slightly should be done after every wash, in my opinion.
Your accent ❤❤
I did this now my washer won't turn on 😢
2 glasses of white vinegar into the drum
1/4 of a cup of baking soda + 1/4 of a glass of water into the powder drawer
run a cleaning cycle with COLD water!
warm water + vinegar = dead machine
I always wipe my front loader after each use and leave door open always
Iam frim algeria and i like this vidéo i hope that it will help me out thank u شكرا👏👏👏👏
I’m so glad I could help you ❤️
Also I heard that you should leave your washers door open when not using it because if you close it then the smells stays in there with the washer been closed all the time, let it air out when not in use
Wow
Helpful, thanks but how come your video is back to front?
depending on the brand and model, removing the seal could be easily done, then just tossing it in a bucket of water and bleach, or the dishwasher would work great. this looks a samsung, so not too easy, but not so bad. just just to look up your brand.
Great tips, but you should wear safety glasses! Just in case the bleach splashed in your eyes!
Use powder detergent. Bleach don't kill mold?
thanks, i just noticed how mouldy the seal of my washing machine is 😥
My father's house one is just like this. Had to move back home and don't even wanna wash my clothes. The cat and dog hair does not help..
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You did good job but take care 1st your safety. You should have eyeglass 🥽🥽👁👁 to protect your eyes
“Nothing that a good “escrub” can do”. Love the accent!
I replace the front booth seal , pain on the butt lol
Thats why you dont know how to use a washing machine and only use co, tap coldwarmand liquid tetergent!😩😨😨😨😨 use at least once a weekerta hkt water and powderdetergent for towels bad shit and whites
I actually have something almost as bad as this so thank you
what would you have done if you DID have 3 hours?
O sorry 😞 to avoid this problem with the mold in near future, my wife keeps the door open for a little while whipping up the excess water 💧and it works 😎👍
How about the top ?
You must clean your washer on a regular basis so it does not get like this one did.