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- Shawn Porter compares the careers of Manny Pacquiao & Floyd Mayweather. Porter determines which had a better career Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao. Boxing News. Watch full interview here • Shawn Porter compares ...
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"Manny was beating legends in his prime. Now he is legend, he's beating fighters in their prime."
salute to Manny😊
well said
Who did he beat in their prime?
Didn't the 39 year old Marquez put Manny to sleep? Marquez was way past his prime.
@@PhantomZone15 He beat Cotto in his prime, Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Hatton, Vargas, Lebwana, Thurman you name it bro.
@@Ryan-kz1gb pac was in his prime when fighting all those mexican's you name.. and thurman, that was his first fight back from an elbow injury, the "tune up year" as he said.. who's prime we talking bout here? Jeff Horn? 😂
PACQUIAO'S RESUME CANNOT AND WILL NEVER BE REPEATED AGAIN.
8 DIVISION WORLD CHAMPION
THE ONLY 5 LINEAL WORLD CHAMPION
THE OLDEST WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPION
THE ONLY BOXER WHO IS STILL A CHAMPION IN 4 DECADES
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Pacquiao actually have 11 boxing world records
And he is from outside of USA. All fight as a guess or visitor.. Pacquiao fight you in your hometowns. No problem!!! Truly a champion!!!
@@kadafijo4638👈 hahahaha don't need to understand ur quote specially if its coming from a nobody, who don't even know how to put a profile picture in ur youtube account hahahahaha 👉👌🤭
I didn't care for boxing until Manny came along. He is incredible and humble
I didn't care about boxing until I saw tyson fight
I'm guessing you all became boxing fans at birth lol
@Dylon Gilbert you gotta understand. Casual fans don't understand that you respect all the great boxers. Who knows how old that Pacquiao fan is. He might be a kid for chris sake. Who was the first boxer you saw fighting that made you a boxing fan? Everyone started somewhere. Mine was Mike Tyson when he was fighting in the early 80s.
@Dylon Gilbert Floyd didn't show up in Dallas. That was the time to fight..Floyd is the more intelligent fighter, but manny(in Dallas) had had quicker feet and faster hands..coming from the south paw stance. Floyd knows he's the more intelligent fighter so one of his strategies is to wait for fighters to slow down. Tim Bradley"He doesn't challenge himself". And how many times did tim fight manny at the top of his game! A fighter (Bradley) that didn't have half the gifs that floyd did. Now tell me i don't know the sport.
@Dylon Gilbert In 2010 Dallas..floyds hands and feet were better coordinated. Floyd waited for him to slo down before he finally fought him. Had he showed up in Dallas..that's a different fight. 2010 pac (feet) could step with you..then pounce on your ass so quick out of no where. When floyd scouts his opponents..he looks at their feet 1st. If you knew boxing..with beginners the 1st thing a trainer is spose to teach and adjust is the feet. Please don't pretend as is if you knew that. 2010 (in Dallas) would have not been easy for Floyd, and a true boxing savant would know that. Who would have won?..ill say this..floyd knew that pac had more enough intelligence to complement that athleticism(coming from the south paw stance) to beat him. Conventional fighters are far more cautious when they book fights with south paws because it's hader to take away the jab. U wanna try debating wit me..your gonna get educated at the same time. Even if your not man enough to admit it.
Here's more crazy
- Manny moved up 10 weight classes
- only champion in 4 decades.
- Oldest welterweight champion!!
CREDIT JUICED
@@regi3724 all hate, Zero facts! Lol
@@regi3724 pointer finger pointing back at you.
@@regi3724 Imagine working hard all your life and then some bitch just calls you that you get juiced. Smh it's called hardwork and dedication, dumbfuck.
@@regi3724 moron😜
Gotta love Shawn..he always keeps it real and unbiased. I also loved the Ali / Tyson comparison to describe how he sees Pacquiao's greatness.
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After 40 to 50 years all you would want to watch are Highlights.
And there will never be a fighter with more highlights than Pacquiao!
Pacquiao's Humbleness is the main point to his greatness.Fom 0 to Hero
agreed
Humbleness a word?
@@hobbybiduya8962 stupid a word?
Yeah. Obviously.
@ 😂 legend
If Pacquiao was American or fighting for America He would have been labeled the Best
He dont make excuses, cherry pick fights
He just fights no trashtalk
He fought champions with weight advantages thats why he is the only 8th Time Word Division Champion
His other fights was Robbed for money reason and trying to make some boxers shoot to stardom by defeating Him in underhanded way
Hes not boring to watch unlike some whos boring and have fixed fights by docking 50/50 result fights
Those who hate Him Watch and side by side all his fights against that of your boxer and compare.
His fights are the real definition of Boxing not Evading. Points is points and picking fights is evading fights. He can get the biggest money way back when both of them are on their prime but for some reason a convenient excuse of Cant fight him due to promoters. Why?
He actually IS the GREATEST. those Americans just can't accept that shit cause he ain't an American.
Facts 💯
U are totally correct bro if he is american he is far far from the other fighthers.
Thats the reality.... to be the GOAT you have to be an american.... I dont know whats special with Floyd's 51-0 record since their are 14 more boxers that retired undefeated
@@thepersonilovethemostfinnw5044 Sorry, Floyd is better. Floyd demolished every big opponent Manny has ever faced. There is no big name or champion that Floyd did not face, and did not beat.
He even took on an mma fighter who was known as the most devastating stand up fighter in mma, and Floyd beat him. He even beat a high level kick boxer.
Hell, he even beat pack himself. He had pack punching air in many rounds.
Floyd is simply the best ever.
But i'll give to Pac, being a champ in so many weight classes is no joke. The only big man the Floyd fought who was naturally above Floyd in weight was Canelo Alverez as far as I know.
It's as simple as hiring the best employee for a certain position. You'd rather pick a person who faced the toughest challenges, get lost, but still keeps on facing the next challenges. You don't want to hire someone who picks his own challenges and boast of doing them all successfully because they're in his comfort zone and so too easy for him. Oh, and don't forget about humility as well.
As a boxing fan, I really want excitement and Pacman provided that. In this brutal sport one has to have and show bravery and Manny is way better than Floyd on this one.
Love both of em Pac and May.
Both were giants of their era.
indeed
Mayweather giant chicken
@@carlohubilla1469 lol
Carlo Hubilla can’t say that about pro boxers
@@carlohubilla1469 LT 😂
in years to come, the one that will stand out the most is Manny's Fights. His fights will go down in history rather than Mayweather's hand picked fights.
Don't think so, floyd's the biggest thing to ever happen to boxing.. he'll go down as the best ever.
@Kriss Smith nah, best ever.. the most skilled boxer to enter that ring. No one comes close to mayweather level.. look at pacquiao. Considered by many p4p the best. Mayweather beats him 9 rounds to 3 and made it look easy.. no one's comes close to his skill level, Yet..
Ya right. I mean who watches Mayweathers booring fight this quarantine? Lol I’ve watched Pacquiao a hundred times and I never get tired of it.
@@pablocamacho2592 you are correct, you can also add best ever at cheating. Had to lay off Marquez camp for coming in overweight, taking illegal IVs which masks PEDs which probably spans more than just the Pacquiao fight and doesn’t fight fighters in their Prime.
Mayweather had the change to fight the best undefeated welterweight at the time of Keif Thhhhurman, but ducked him for a lesser opposition of Andre Berto. Manny was so much older and beat an undefeated Keif.
So yeah, Mayweather undefeated and beat only to his followers which are dwarfed by Manny’s supporters, boxing historians and other great fighters who choose Manny’s career better than Mayweather.
@@UserInterface00 pacquiao is the only elite fighter who has been able to avoid nevada state and usada drug testing.. but Floyd mayweather is the cheater. Okay
respect to porter acknowledging greatness
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For the last 10+ years I have not seen Manny fight anyone where he had the size and reach advantage think about that too
So you never watched him fight Marqueze ?
@@benjaminunanaowo2929 lol Marquez is bigger than Pac-Man..
@@midoban1078 Marqueze got bigger as he aged, but he never fought at 154. He was just as small as Pac when he fought Mayweather.
@@benjaminunanaowo2929 height and reach ,Marquez was taller and longer...but yes they were the same weight during weigh in....all morales,Barrera and Marquez are naturally bigger comepared to Pac-Man
He got bigger coz of steroids on there last fight everybody was shocked to
Remember pacquiao fought not in his comfort zone he is stranger plus pacquiao dont choose opponent.😁G.O.A.T🥇
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You don't know shit about boxing!
@@bigmurkgmoney878 🤣
@@bigmurkgmoney878 yah boxing is hit and run that's they don't know. And boxing is business it's all about money.
He chose Cotto & DLh and weight drained them, Freddie Roach brags about this.
I dont see Floyd walking in a fight getting Clapped 10years from now. I hear Boooos instead.
And yet beat the one getting clapped....this sport is messed up indeed
Floyd don’t need claps he got Money an plenty of it haters pay to see him fight fucc their clap the same way they paid to see Ali an they heated him too y’all need to EDUCATE yourself on boxing an the history of it an stop being haters an broke haters at dat
@@bennyblanco1302 An entertainer/performer that doesn't want to get cheered? Are you kidding me?
@@bennyblanco1302 pac get claps cuz he a humanitarian in heart. If you follow his story way back until now, he gives a bone to people, and builds houses to people in need and give them jobs, he teaches people to catch a fish too.
So
The names on Manny's resume are insane - just his record against Morales, Barrera and Marquez and the multiple fights against them alone puts him near the top of the small men of all time. What hes done in terms moving up the weights and racking up wins against other greats and the longevity, is amazing. Floyd always took calculated risks and even in those fights, made sure he controlled everything in his favor. I appreciate Floyd's skillset but I respect Manny's career more.
Floyd beat 15 Hall of Famers you idiot.
Floyd Mayweather Jr will beat everyone on Manny's resume but Manny can't beat everyone on Floyd's resume...lol... for example..Marquez.. LMAO
@@dakid8568 the fight of the century was a pure disappointment and Pacquiao wasnt the reason for that.
@@chuckchuk5157 Yes he was.... Manny's career can't f--k with Floyd and deep down inside all you haters know it... That's why your supermad...lol 😂🤣
@@dakid8568 he can't beat Marquez?? Are you an idiot?? Marquez won one out of 4 fights, what are you talking about?
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Mayweather:
-50-0 undefeated record
-Beat more world champions/future HoFs in that span of 50 fights than any other boxer in history
-5 division world champion
-The most financially successful prize fighter in history (based on PPV, tickets, and promotions, not sponsorships)
-Never officially knocked down in his professional career
-Beat all compubox records during his era
Pacquiao:
-Only 8 division champion in history, having skipped two that would have made him a 10 division champion
-Only 5 division lineal champion
-Only 4x Welterweight Champion
-Only fighter to be world champion during 4 different decades
-Oldest fighter to win a title at welterweight
-Only senator to ever become a champion at all
-Has fought and won many of his iconic fights at a considerable size/reach disadvantage
It's honestly a pick-'em. Mayweather was the better boxer. Pacquiao was the better champion.
facts
@AntMan lmao. Floyd does not hold the most World Champions anymore. 😂
Following up on Floyd Mayweather’s admission that Manny Pacquiao would overtake his mark of 23 world champions beaten, WBN decided to crunch the numbers.
Going through both records with a fine-tooth comb, it seems Mayweather has counted his two victories over Jose Luis Castillo and Marcos Maidana.
The actual number of world champions defeated by Mayweather is 22. The total reaches 24 if you add the rematch wins.
Pacquiao, on the other hand, has 22 victories over recognized title holders. That number stretches to 25 with second triumph.
Therefore, the Filipino Senator holds the record all on his own. A blow to Mayweather, who obviously wanted to hold on to it a little longer.
Below is a list compiled of all the belt holders who the two rivals have overcome.
Unless Floyd Mayweather comes out of retirement at the age of 43, the record stays with Manny Pacquiao.
FLOYD MAYWEATHER - CHAMPIONS BEATEN
Genaro Hernandez
Diego Corralez
Gregorio Vargas
Carlos Hernandez
Jesus Chavez
Jose Luis Castillo (twice)
DeMarcus Corley
Arturo Gatti
Sharmba Mitchell
Zab Judah
Carlos Baldomir
Oscar De La Hoya
Ricky Hatton
Juan Manuel Marquez
Shane Mosley
Victor Ortiz
Miguel Cotto
Robert Guerrero
Canelo Alvarez
Marcos Maidana (twice)
Manny Pacquiao
Andre Berto
MANNY PACQUIAO - CHAMPION BEATEN
Chatchai Sasakul
Lehlohonolo Ledwaba
Jorge Julio
Marco Antonio Barrera (twice),
Erik Morales (twice)
Oscar Larios
Juan Manuel Marquez (twice)
David Diaz
De La Hoya
Ricky Hatton
Miguel Cotto
Joshua Clottey
Antonio Margarito
Shane Mosley
Brandon Rios
Timothy Bradley ( twice)
Chris Algieri
Jessie Vargas
Lucas Matthysse
Adrien Broner
Keith Thurman
Despite this fact, Pacquiao rattled through the divisions and became a world title-holder at seven or eight different weight classes, dependent on which sanctioning bodies you count.
Losing seven times, the 41-year-old has made comeback after comeback and continues to reign at welterweight - even today.
@AntMan Manny achieved more than Floyd.
PACQUIAO UNIMAGINABLE ACHIEVEMENTS/ACCOMPLISHMENTS (Updated)
(25 YEARS PRO CAREER RESUME AND ACCOLADES)
- Author: JDV0428 (aka TopPicksWW)
-Record Set (8 World Records)
¶Only Seven Weight Division World Champion in Boxing history (Record)
¶Only Eight Weight Division World Champion in Boxing history (Record)
¶Only 5x lineal champion in boxing history (Record)
¶Only boxer to win titles in 4 glamour divisions in history (Record)
¶Only four-decade world champion in history having held world championships across four successive decades (90's, 2000's,2010's,2020's) (Record)
¶Only boxer to become a recognized 4 time welterweight champion in history (Record)
¶Only World Champion to serve as Senator (Record)
¶ Oldest welterweight champion in boxing history (Record)
¶The ring magazine Longest ACTIVE Reigning top 10 pound for pound fighter ever (14 years)
¶Pound for Pound no. 1 for 4 straight years (Unanimous) (2008, 2009,2010, 2011)
¶Most times welterweight champion (4x champion) (2009/Cotto,2014/Bradley,2016/Vargas,2019/Thurman)
¶ 3 times fighter of the year (Unanimous) (2006,2008,2009)
¶ 2 times Best Fighter ESPY Award (2009,2011)
¶ 2000's - 2010's Fighter of the decade (Unanimous By BWAA,WBC,WBO,HBO)
¶Ranker Rank no. 1 Best fighter of the 21st century (From 2001-2100)
¶Ranker Rank no.10 Best Fighter of the 20th Century (from 1901-2000)
¶Currently rank no. 2 in BoxRecs ranking of greatest P4P boxers of all time
¶CBS rank 3rd as the greatest welterweight of the last 50 years
¶ 13X World Champion
¶Currently defeated 22 World Champions
¶ Fifth-oldest boxer to win a world title in history (40 years, 215 days old)
¶Beat Most Champions in boxing including rematches (25 times)
¶Beat Most Champions including Minor titles (31 times)
¶ 19 World Title fight Wins
¶ 33 total bout against World Champions
¶ 20 Successful Title Fights
¶ 12 Successful Title Defenses
¶ 8 wins over HALL OF FAMERS Inductee
¶ 12 wins over HALL OF FAMERS inductees including rematches
¶ 9 wins against UNDEFEATED BOXER
¶ 2007 World Boxing Hall of Fame fighter of the year
¶ 2009 Knock out of the year against hatton (Unanimous)
¶ 2009 Forbes highest paid athlete (ranked 6th)
¶ 2009 The Time Magazine Most influential People in the World (Front Cover)
¶ 2010 World Boxing Organization Fighter of the year (For capturing his 8 div title)
¶ 2010 Ring Magazine Event of the Year
¶ 2011 Guinness World Records (Most boxing world titles, 8 times)
¶ 2011 Ring Magazine Event of the Year
¶ 2012 Forbes Highest Paid Athlete (Ranked 2nd)
¶ 2013 Comeback Fighter of the year
¶ 2014 On the Ropes fighter of the year
¶ 2015 forbes highest paid athlete (ranked 2nd)
¶ 2015 Ring Magazine Event of the Year
¶ 2015 Richest Fight in Boxing History & Biggest fight of the century against Mayweather
¶ 2016 forbes magazine boxing Mvp's (ranked 4th)
¶ 2019 forbes magazine 8th highest paid athletes of the decade
¶ 2019 WBN Fighter of the year
¶Currently Top 10 in Pound 4 Pound Rankings
¶Currently rank 2 at welterweight division
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CHAMPIONS BEATEN (25 TIMES)
(Beat most champions in boxing history)
Chatchai Sasakul
Lehlohonolo Ledwaba
Jorge Julio
Marco Antonio Barrera (twice) (HOF)
Erik Morales (twice) (HOF)
Oscar Larios
Juan Manuel Marquez (twice) (HOF)
David Diaz
De La Hoya (HOF)
Ricky Hatton (HOF)
Miguel Cotto (HOF)
Joshua Clottey
Antonio Margarito
Shane Mosley (HOF)
Brandon Rios
Timothy Bradley (twice) (HOF)
Chris Algieri
Jessie Vargas
Lucas Matthysse (FHOF)
Adrien Broner (FHOF)
Keith Thurman (FHOF)
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-Greatest southpaw fighter of all time
-Greatest asian fighter of all time
-Greatest resume in boxing history
-Greatest legacy in boxing
-Most exciting fighter
-Most Sensational fighter
-One of best offensive fighter of all time
-One of best toe to toe fighter of all time
-One of the fastest fighter ever
-One of most respected athlete of all time
-One of biggest star in boxing history
-One of most successful boxer in history
-Top 5 Richest Boxer of all times
-Has the biggest fanbase in boxing today
-Best trilogies/quadrilogies in this generation
-Best wars in this era
-Best rivalries in this generation
-Most memorable fights
-Most classic fights
-Most toughest fights
-Most Pay Per View Fights(25)
-Never ducked no one
-Fought all the best fighters
-Most robbeb boxer
-The Peoples Champion
-The Knockout Artist
-The Giant Slayer
-An All Around fighter
-A Class fighter
-The Humble Warrior
-The Once in a lifetime fighter
-A Humanitarian
-A Philanthropist
-A Great Senator/politician
-A God-fearing Person
-The Pound for Pound best
-From 🔥Rags🔥to 🔥Riches🔥
-From 🔥FLYWEIGHT🔥to 🔥LIGHT MIDDLEWEIGHT🔥
-THE LAST REMAINING GIANT OF HIS GENERATION, STILL ACTIVE AND STILL A WORLD CHAMPION
-THE GREATEST P4P FIGHTER OF ALL TIMES!
-THE LEGENDARY PACQUIAO -
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Recently, they just robbed Pacquiao for being the Back to back Fighter of the Decade. Another record.
Pacquiao started the decade as a champion and ended the decade as a champion.
But they still gave the FOTD to Floyd who fought for only 5 yrs and retired. FACTS.
@Erick MoneyBag Because u dont know a shit. Clearyly Marquez was on steroid. Have you ask yourself WHY it took Marquez Heredias milk shake to KO Manny when he was on his late 30s? So you mean, Marquez is stronger than these guys: Cotto, Hatton, Thurman, Margarito, Mosley all the legitimate Welterweight? Marquez landed those shot on their prime but it never KO manny down. If Marquez DRINKS his own urine, its very likely he will take steroid out of desperation for the WIN. Oooh don't forget that steroid signs was all over Marques on fight night.
Big ups to Porter. He keeps it real. No bs not bias and very on point. Calm and humble about it. Great character
facts
@@allhiphopallthetime not like Timothy Bradley lol
@N Bo 😂 I hear you
Kudos to Shawn Porter for respecting Manny Pacquiao 🥊🥊🥊🥊🇵🇭🇵🇭you are a true fighter also
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Mayweather is hard to defeat
Pacquaio's accomplishments are hard to achieve
true
hard to defeat flomo he defeated by castillo and dela hoya
@@aireezfamilledatu9795 also Manny..
If you fight with all the advantages you can have then it becomes difficult to beat. Floyd did just that. Only way to defeat him is KO and he just need to avoid that and he did pretty good to avoid it. Floyd is great but he only fought when everything is in his favour and therefore he will never be the goat or his self proclaimed tbe. Its unbelievable that manny has achieved so much and more beyond imagination without any advantages.
Really hard when you're fighting floyd and the judges. Win the match but the judges will turn it around.
Tbe floyd! The best ever to manipulate boxing.
He will hand pick the ref
He will hand pick the judges
He has his own terms and conditions
Some times cherry pick some fighters
Doesn't fight out side las vegas
What a champ! Tbe! Goat!
Fighter of the decade while only fighting half a decade!
A true warrior!
He holds the most "retire" title than any other boxer!
Ducks prime fighter! Damn thats smart and brave!
TBE
Floyd makes money Paquiao makes history, entertainment and money
They both made all of that. You'd have to be completely disengenuous to state otherwise.
Floyd 50-0 and cleaned up manny tf
No no u suck
Short answer lng ako ; Floyd ahead of money earnings. MP is d most decorated boxer
there are only a few iconic legends in my own eyes Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, & Manny Pacqiuao
Yeahhh
You forgot The Beatles
To a sports fan maybe, but as a boxing nut GTFOH. Sugar Ray Robinson, Jack Johnson, Harry Greb, Henry Armstrong, Hagler, Monzon etc etc. Unless you are talking more than just sporting achievement. Love Manny and Floyd but in boxing terms they just may make the top 10 and Tyson whilst a cracking fighter is nowhere near the top 10.
@@leecourtney1225 and Efren "Bata" Reyes
Michael Phelps
Floyd manipulated his fights.
While Manny Pacquaio is not. MP is the People's Champion. Meaning he represent majority of boxing fans
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i love manny my dude but let’s be real he also manipulated fights, the guy dehydrated fighters made them fight in catch weights, plus he wouldn’t drug test for the longest time, don’t get me wrong im not trying to bash but I can’t help and cringe when people view him as a saint, also his fan base is annoying
@@americanroyalist6905 thank you
@@americanroyalist6905 exactly, Manny juice man claimed he was scared of needles for the longest... Trust me we know why... He went from really no power and always breaking his hands... To walking through people and bones of steel... Lol!
@Aurelio Intermagio never said i was a hater, i just state facts, pacquiao did have a disadvantage when it came to reach and height that still doesn’t excuse the fact that the guy came in roided and made other fighters fight in catchweights , and im aware that pacquiao isn’t the only person to do this i just hate how his fan base over praises him for his bs but talk bad about floyd or canelo when they do the same
You will see another fighter reach 50 wins without a defeat. You will never see another fighter accomplish what Pacquiao has accomplished.
It's actually more likely to see a fighter like pack than to see another fighter go 51-0 after having faced so many top champions and top fighters. Floyd's achievements is literally something you can go several lifetimes before seeing it again. Even Rocky (another rare undefeated fighter) never came close to facing so many champions and top fighters.
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior You have literally NEVER seen any other fighter do what Pacquiao has done. You have seen Marciano go undefeated in his career. JC Chavez was 51-0 at one point in his career. He was even 61-0, 71-0 and 81-0 at one point in his career. Joe Calzaghe went 46-0 before retiring. Ray Robinson won 40 fights before losing, then went on a 90 fight winning streak.
What Pacquiao has accomplished is singular. What Floyd has accomplished is not. And I'm being kind allowing you to claim Floyd went 51-0. The "fights" with Conor MacGregor and that Japanese kid were nothing more than circus stunts.
@@jaime8318 floyd beat the most champions in boxing history!! Case closed. Pacquiao has been knocked out cold and loss to a journey man, cut the crap!!! Floyd is tbe
@@growwithwill5070 Pacquiao beat more great fighters and fighters above his natural weight. You will never see another 8 division champion. You never have before and you never will again. He beat a young undefeated champion when he was 40 years old. As I said, you have never seen that before, You never will again. If you think so, who do you think has that potential to do that? I'll wait.
@@jaime8318 Floyd wasn't just an undefeated fighter. I thought I mentioned specifically in that comment that he fought almost all top fighters and champions in his era, and won against them all. The other fighters you listed don't come close to that.
Floyd also started his on promotion company and promoted his own fights, which he was the first to do if i recall correctly.
He also brought the most money into the sport of boxing more than any other fighter in history.
You keep saying Manny has done what no other fighter has done, but you don't mention anything specific. I've already mentioned why Floyd is unique, so you should list the things that make Manny unique because I really cant see what makes him so special.
I'd say Manny Pacquiao si the Roger Federer of boxing.
Manny is my pick also....
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Shawn Porter has a great IQ. He is only few boxers today that talk so much SENSE!
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Floyd: fight with high reward and maintain that 0 . He fights that counter puncher boxer stlyle where hit without getting hit .
Manny: fight with also high rewards but gave you that bang! As he always say " make the people happy". He fights relentlessly,hit me but im coming back at you mentality.
Thats the difference between the two. Money over entertainment.
good point
History is no.1, 8 world division champion
Well said... But it not my fault f u cant hit me right... 😂😂😂
@@finchhermano9207 your right thats why i my self believe Floyd is the better boxer but not the better fighter.
@@genesiskimboyot2095 lets put it this way, in ur child hood does anyone hit u n the face it hurts right... So y would u let anyone hit u n the face u f u can make them missed right...even f u compare floyd to loma who is the better boxer everyone will choose loma cos loma s a good guy and floyd s a villain... Am i right... The name of the game is to hit and not to get hit... Floyd SOG loma and rigo s one of the greats when it comes to sweet science...
I love Shawn for Being unbiased. he is one of the a kind and humble boxer out there such as Manny and Errol
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MANNY BEAT MORE CHAMPIONS THAN FLOYD.
Following up on Floyd Mayweather’s admission that Manny Pacquiao would overtake his mark of 23 world champions beaten, WBN decided to crunch the numbers.
Going through both records with a fine-tooth comb, it seems Mayweather has counted his two victories over Jose Luis Castillo and Marcos Maidana.
The actual number of world champions defeated by Mayweather is 22. The total reaches 24 if you add the rematch wins.
Pacquiao, on the other hand, has 22 victories over recognized title holders. That number stretches to 25 with second triumph.
Therefore, the Filipino Senator holds the record all on his own. A blow to Mayweather, who obviously wanted to hold on to it a little longer.
Below is a list compiled of all the belt holders who the two rivals have overcome.
Unless Floyd Mayweather comes out of retirement at the age of 43, the record stays with Manny Pacquiao.
FLOYD MAYWEATHER - CHAMPIONS BEATEN
Genaro Hernandez
Diego Corralez
Gregorio Vargas
Carlos Hernandez
Jesus Chavez
Jose Luis Castillo (twice)
DeMarcus Corley
Arturo Gatti
Sharmba Mitchell
Zab Judah
Carlos Baldomir
Oscar De La Hoya
Ricky Hatton
Juan Manuel Marquez
Shane Mosley
Victor Ortiz
Miguel Cotto
Robert Guerrero
Canelo Alvarez
Marcos Maidana (twice)
Manny Pacquiao
Andre Berto
MANNY PACQUIAO - CHAMPION BEATEN
Chatchai Sasakul
Lehlohonolo Ledwaba
Jorge Julio
Marco Antonio Barrera (twice),
Erik Morales (twice)
Oscar Larios
Juan Manuel Marquez (twice)
David Diaz
De La Hoya
Ricky Hatton
Miguel Cotto
Joshua Clottey
Antonio Margarito
Shane Mosley
Brandon Rios
Timothy Bradley ( twice)
Chris Algieri
Jessie Vargas
Lucas Matthysse
Adrien Broner
Keith Thurman
Despite this fact, Pacquiao rattled through the divisions and became a world title-holder at seven or eight different weight classes, dependent on which sanctioning bodies you count.
Losing seven times, the 41-year-old has made comeback after comeback and continues to reign at welterweight - even today.
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Well said bro, well said 👍
Let’s see what they list looks like in terms of hall of fame fighters. The sheer fact that Mayweather took on Canelo and Pac and his team never even mentioned Canelo is enough for me.
@@benjaminunanaowo2929 Canelo is 5’9 and walks around at 174 pounds, Mayweather is 5’8 and walks around at 150, Pacquiao 5’5 and walks around at 147, pacquiao fought once at middleweight against Margarito but said he’d never return to the weight because it was too physically straining for his body. It makes no sense to hold it agains Pacquiao for not fighting a guy who has fought at light heavyweight weight, and give all the credit to mayweather for beating a very very young Canelo early on in his career.
@@TheSkol28 At the time Canelo wasn’t fighting at Light heavyweight. That fight could have happened if Pac wanted it just like all the other sloppy seconds he wanted from Floyd. He also was stable mates with Crawford at Top Rank, left to PBC where his trainer Freddie Roach said, that guys made for us. I don’t see anything wrong with what Pac did but people call it cherry picking for Floyd. No consistency.
Everything Shawn Porter is saying is pretty much the way the history books are going to see this era. I could give a lot of reasons
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I think, what Pac did will probably never be repeated again.
Wtf what money may did never be done like he paid some of the ppl he boxed out his pocket now name one boxer who did that
Top ten greatest boxers of all time
1. Manny pacquiao
2. Muhammad ali
3. Sugar ray leonard
4. Sugar ray robinson
5. Roberto duran
6. Mike tyson
7. Roy jones
8. Bernard hopkins
9. Julio cesar chavez
10. Oscar dela hoya
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NO, just NO
@@botfields_hardcoregamer6401 im basing on facts and peoples choices
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Muhammad Ali is the Goat
ithink pac is number 4 or 5 or 3 hehe
@@kicksbuds2028 facts will tell u who's number 1
Just think pacquiao was in legendary wars at featherweight with barrera, morales and marquez then moved up to welterweight and dominated.
@Emmanuel Cano you casuals don’t know boxing. Pacquiao has the most catch weight fights at welterweight. Drained his most difficult fighters look it up.
@@kewan2045 manny was also the smaller faster stronger guy beating tf outta big mfs
Shawn P is keeping it real. No bias pacman the champ is the goat for me. Respect his opinion everyone has their own opinion to something. Both fighters are great but pacman for me is the GOAT!
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Manny is a great boxer and a great human being at the same time.Great video and you got a new subscriber here brother!
Thanks for the sub!
Manny could have 10 division titles if he didn't skip 2 weight class to fight bigger fighters, imagine.
You guys should watch Thurman's interview on this question, you ll become a fan of Thurman..
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An honest opinion from a very good boxer.
Pac does very well inside and oitside the ring. Great husband, father and senator. He lost a few times but he got up to win again. The guy's simply amazing.
pac is goat
a lot of people agree with you
What if pacquiao is american i think he consider now as the GOAT of Boxing because his achievements is very2x impossible but possible to him🥰❣️
He's already considered as GOAT.
for me iconic legends are
Basketball - michael jordan,kobe bryant,lebron
tennis - aggasi,sampras,djokovic,federrer,nadal
soccer - david becham,messi,ronaldo
track and field - usain bolt
chess - paeng nepumuceno
billards - Efren Bata Reyes
swimming - michael phelps
golf - tiger woods
F1 - Michael shummacher
Boxing - M ali,tyson and pacquaio
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Great interview.
Next interview question: Which is greater? 50-0 or 8 division titles?
Or Which is harder? 8 division titles or 50-0?
Thank you. We will use your question in a future interview.
50-0
@@botfields_hardcoregamer6401 that is an amazing feat
8 divs. Easy
Bot Fields 50-0 has already been done before tho.
at first i wasnt interested n boxing, but then I saw pacquiao. it really changed my views to boxing man
If Manny Pacquiao is an American he will be labeled as a the best but since he is from Philippines then he is not the best.
I Agree with you brother
Nope still Floyd
porter always give respect to everyone..hes good too👌
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From flyweight to Junior middleweight, do you realize how hard that is? just imagine it is like Floyd fighting from lighweight to heavyweight. Someone tried it but fail, because they lost from going up in weight but Pacquiao won it all. ., 8 division world champion, and for the record he skip 2 weight classes.
For the record Pacquiao has no business fighting at welterweight, because he is not a natural welterweight, he is a lightweight. Fighter like Spence, Thurman and Porter are natural middleweights, they can rehydrate themselves to get the welterweight limit, just imagine Pacquiao the same size as them., he will demolished all of them., including Mayweather.
Like what Max Kellerman said if Floyd and Pacquiao are on the same size, Floyd can't beat him, because all of the advantages are on Floyd, the height, reach and weight a naturally bigger man, and Pacquiao can still compete in a highest level with all the disadvantages. Pacquiao is a freak of nature.
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100% agree
100% True
Pacman went pro young and naturally being small and those classes at the bottom are so close 108 then 112 then 116 he grew up in boxing from a boy to a man in boxing not to take anything away , its good conversation but there is alot of variables to look at
Depends on the criteria. If making the most money and choosing the right guys at the right time of course it's Floyd. If you think about which career would you like your son to have, most would say Floyd I mean if Manny was my son I would never have let him move above 130lbs cause that would have been way too big of a risk.
If you think just about accomplishments, opposition and divisions then obviously it's Pacquiao, he is the better fighter pound for pound.
I see the logic behind your opinion. 👍🏾
They both great but i cannot watch a replay on Mayweather. Its like driving on a long one way highway and just see trees n trees n trees like a never ending road. So boring put u to sleep. Pacquaio on the other hand is like sitting on a roller coaster ride where u know u gonna have excitement n block buster ride they gets u off u seat happy when its over...
You don't know shit about boxing!
@@bigmurkgmoney878 i know i would ur ass chicken boy
@@bigmurkgmoney878 you dont know about the chicken noodle soup runner inside the ring? Oh common! He is so well known of that..dont deny! 🤪🤣🤣🤣
Porter. And thurman, i salute you for recognizing and acknowledging pacman
And im sure, after history books are written, after decades and centuries passed,
"It's gonna be MANNY and not MONEY"
Amen
Yup much respect to our 8th wonder of the world congrats Manny stay humble......*^%&^*$^#*^":;$#-:)
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I'll never understand how you can watch a man lose, not just lose but knocked out in prime and still call you the greatest
good point
bc he lived the Muhammad Ali life 🤷🏽♂️
My new fave channel..thumbs up to shawn man!pacman up until now is on top and he defeated thurman which is undefeated way back
thank you sir
Bruh, I have so much respect for your opinions cuz, you’re so unbiased. Shawn porter for president.
Floyd is smart , he saw what happpened to cotto. He knew margarito was a cheat.
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He avoided getting in a close brawl against pacman because of pacman's power, that's mayweather style even though not many like it
@HedgeHog in a Canoe Agreed 👍🏾
I believe Top Rank wanted a Margarito-Floyd fight back in about 2007 before Floyd retired which was before Margarito fought Cotto. But there's a strong chance Margarito would've used hand wraps had he fought Floyd back then.
I salute..Mr.Shawn Porter..kudos for your kind word neither for the two Manny and Floyd
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Also we all know that aggresor vs defensive styles are different and deffensive style has the edge when you have old age since the body acts slower when you are older that make sense flloyd should shouldve fight manny on their primes, Floyd was such a scared cat
Manny denied both offers to fight.. first because, manny wanted 50/50 Floyd said 60/40.. Second time Floyd said 50/50 but he wanted drug testing. Manny said he doesn't like needles.. So Floyd said fuck him 😂
@@pablocamacho2592 both of them undergone drug testing and both of them were clear during the fight. Then tell me, why mayweather is so damn afraid of pac’s punches in which he keeps on running away inside the ring like a coward baby! And guess what? He won! That fight was extended in so many years not because of issues like drug test, and money; that is just an understatement. It simply because of the fact that mayweather is afraid of facing pac that he created so much alibys to delay the fight. To add out his early retirement exactly after the fight and not giving a chance for rematch.
You can rob pac all you want. But you can never rob the hearts’ of the fans. Thats fact. Mayweather’s jelousy over pac will hunt him forever.
@@Lkristah it ain't running, he lands more punches than everyone he fights. The art of boxing is to hit without being hit 🙄. Your dumb if you just gon stand there while someone's throwing bombs at your head.. and two, mayweather sent two contracts to Bob arum and pacman. They denied both offers, first they 50/50 split, second one pacman wanted piss test not blood test (because he doesn't like needles, but had tattoo on his arm 🤔😂). Mayweather said "fuck him, I don't need him, pacman needs mayweather".. it was pacman ducking mayweather. And if they did fight when they were younger, Floyd might have killed pac. He was faster, he hit harder and defense still impregnable.. Pacman loses that fight 99/100 times 😘
Porter don't judge by the color of the skin but by the work the Man has done and right now to many are doing the opposite on youtube lately
Pac is the snoopdog of boxing! Real bad ass
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The crazy thing about Manny is he's continue up in weight and knock out those best fighter on that division and that's the reason why Manny Pacquiao is better than Mayweather. That feat is very unusual. A flyweight champion knocking out Oscar Dela Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto, I can't imagine how he do that until now. It's imposible
excellent point
I like Porter's personality.
Your are very true human being man!
I like you Shawn!
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His story about Muhammad ali just shows how beloved that great man was.
Mayweather - def the best at managing his career! Pacquiao - The most accomplishments.
Wrong lol lol lol ppl slow
@@weed-_-seedz7596 what’s wrong? Paquiao 8 division champ facts! Mayweather richest fighter.
When your the greatest people know it and you don’t have to tell anybody
Both legends. It's easy to admire Pacquiao's fights, action packed. But it takes a different kind of fan to appreciate the sweet science of boxing in Floyd.
Well said
I mean if you like practicing social distancing 🤷
shawn porter i salute you real recognition for Manny legacy
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50-0 is gay and simply redundant but 8 DIVISION WORLD CHAMPION NOT TO MENTION 4 DECADE CHAMPION in one BOXER will never be done AGAIN in this lifetime or the next.
love shawn porter, such a good dude
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10 years from now pacquiao is already retired. He would be 50 yrs old
Good honest opinion from Shawn Porter :)
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The disrespect of Floyd and the revisionist history of Pacquiao’s career is on another level
i feel you
Another Floyd's fan boy that doen't have anything smart to argue lol
@Al Marcel So you’re saying Floyd the actual boxer who has accomplished great things in the ring is the clown and you the unknown unaccomplished fan knows better than him.
@@princevega1986 A month later still no arguments LOL Gotta love those blind wannabe thugs fanboys crying in mommy's basement
When porter said he pick manny base on who he fought and when the fight happens is the best reason why Manny is over floyd in all time rank. And a lot of boxing legends said that that too and analyst like Max kellerman. It's hard to argue with that statement
Mayweather's 51-0 record doesn't mean anything especially if their are 14 more boxers retired undefeated.... but their is only one 8 division champ and you know who it is 😊
Nice words of wisdom Porter. God bless!
Jose luis castillo was defeated mayweather it should be 50-1 record is that a Greatness?? Pay all the judges to win all the fights😂😂😂
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Chino beat maywheather in the first fight. Let's not forget maywheather hugged him 75 times in that fight!
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You don't know shit about boxing!
The odds Pacquiao faced is enough to make him the real TBE.
floyd already resign fought ninja taxi driver in japan and now the youtuber logan and pacman have 2more years and resign . after pacman resign boxing is boring. :-(
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Why are we asking who had the better career. It is clear that they both had amazing careers! They are both icons in the sport. Both had success and made a lot of money!
It's a good debate. But you are right they both are legends.
He fought Margarito at a catch weight. He fought Marquez 4 times and I reality lost all 4. Manny fought Shane after Floyd already beat him coming off his biggest win. Manny gets the nod from many people based on who he is as a person not as a fighter. As a fighter, Floyd is the best hands down. Mike Tyson was hated at one stage the same as Muhammad Ali.
Lol lost all?
Floyd ducked Manny in his prime. Manny already agreed for a smaller payout but Floyd chickened out, waited for Manny to get slower. Manny was just a shell of himself when he fought Floyd as compared to when he was annihilating great boxing champions. 8 division world title. Pacman was fighting champions after champions while Floyd was cherry picking easy fights to fill those winning streak stats. We can hardly remember any of floyd's fights coz he was up against washed up champs or nobodies. Even Shawn had hard time remembering. Lol! While Manny fought big name champs in their prime
Shawn porter just told the truth.
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2:38 I thought he would choose Nas for Manny Pacquiao, lol Might as well choose Prince o Michael Jackson if it is a different genre lol Choosing a lady (Whitney Houston) caught me off haha
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Well said Porter
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I just don’t understand why they never mentioned mayweather age talking bout he fought fighters out their prime like when did mayweather fight out his own prime then? People act like mayweather still in his late 20s
excellent point
physical advantage
to opponents
Yeah you are right..but may weather fighting that he knows he can win,and have advantages.. Not like manny you can put any fighter...
@@unlockedmetv2207 how can he know he can win ? That doesn’t make sense no fighter knows what can happened in the ring at that level
I agree what Mr Porter explain.... They both different type of boxer... I'm a Filipino.. I'm proud of what our own Manny Pacquiao have done... His a hero in our country..
its kinda like LBJ and Jordan.
LBJ has the better resume and exceeded expectations; doesn't have a perfect record being 4-6 now while Jordan was basically perfect 6-0 but they're both GOATS in their own rights. can't take anything away from them
Don’t you mean MJ has the resume? Not a good comparison.
@@XxLilBxX1 nah lbj got almost every stat. If I am wrong then you gotta admit he at least creeping up on mj
We gotta remember Jordan put up his stats in a shorter amount of time lol people forget he left twice
mj didn't go running around surrounding himself with star teammates.
Mj got destroyed by piston though
It’s about the competition they face and achievement they acquired
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Floyd fought McGregor for cash n Pac Man fought the toughest fighters at their prime he would never disrespect boxing like that his a true champ!!
I love this guy
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Pacquiao was more exciting
Mayweather was more successful
more money is more successful? lmao with tons of money mayweather have he cant still buy the respect of the world
Everybody knows Pacquiao won Mayweather, he totally dominated that fight.
Shawn Porter To the Champ!
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It's simple. The person who controlled their own career. The person that has no choice but to fight definitely couldn't have a better career.
good point
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Tell it like it is! 🙌
Wow ..great comments and analysis by one of the great boxer shan porter..I agree, Manny pacman would be same as Mohamad ali once he entered in the stadium 10 years from now... I'll wait for that to come and see if Shan's believe will be true.
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I just laughed when he was having a hard time tryna remember any good opponent of floyd (in their prime). He was trying to build a case for money but got lost lmao🤣
Canelo?
@@BOOTEDpenguin canelo was not in his peak when they fought. If canelo that fought ggg was the canelo that night it wouldve been interesting
50-0 cry baby manny got knocked tf out floyd beat the most world champs dummy
Nobody from flyweight going up to jr middleweight.. people forgot that pac is not really a welterweight..fighting at welter is really dangerous to him but he still fight and beating elite fighters. That is really impossible if u can imagine..
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