Just a quick heads up, this is VERY dependant on your rune choices. This exact clear works because the talents choice (+9 AF/ +9AF / +60HP) all increase the jungle items burn damage to let the timing work for when ghouls return from gromp. Highly recommend and it fits in well with any of my usual recommended rune choices. Could even rune absolute focus to make it quicker if you like using phase rush. If you can't invade after the clear, gank mid or bot instead.
@@alexandrubucurica1709 The goal here isn't to kill the enemy jungle. We just want to disrupt/smite steal their camps away. If they aren't impacting our lanes, then we have a better early game automatically.
@ninetalesOCE can u bring a in-depth with voice guide on how to walk away from jg camp n let ghoul finish the camp? can u also show us the raptor start possibility? thx
What time do you ward to see enemy jungle path. Also, I'm having trouble killing raptors fast enough before my ghouls come back after killing gromp, any tips? A voice-over explaining it in detail would probably help
@@Dan-ix3ik I’ve definitely got more videos coming, unfortunately im sick with the flu right now and cant even speak so cant record much. It’s likely you’re killing the raptors too slowly or your ghouls are not killing gromp fast enough. 6 is still good to solo red very fast.
@@anohuy4922 I’d strongly suggest taking my usual which is hail of blades (cheap shot, eyeball and ultimate hunter) and pairing it with precision secondary (cut down, legend alacrity)
I thought they died if more than 4 ended up in the same place; I guess it must only check on spawn (since most of the time they're running down separate lanes, I guess it hasn't come to light).
@@dhabu9017 I main jungle and it's a little weird how they work. There can only be 4 ghouls around Yorick at once or 4 by the maiden but any other ones outside that radius (typically whenever ghouls are traveling to Yorick from maiden because they didn't aggro on the wave) they are in a limbo state where they are not close to either one of their limiters so you can have a non restricted amount between them and as long as they don't get too close to either Yorick or the maiden they'll not despawn because technically they aren't violating the rules of 4 ghouls around yorick or maiden. The most I've had before is 8 and it's easiest to do after clearing Wraith camp and tagging red with your E. If you go to the opponents blue side jungle afterwards you can actually have the leftover ghouls go Midlane for you
I wouldn't expect a nerf anytime soon, this has been in the game for years and never been addressed. Realistically, we've never had a way to consistently abuse it. This is only recently changed.
@@dhabu9017yorick can have as many ghouls as he can get on the map, however he has a death radius around himself that kills more than 4 ghouls. Its usually tricky to get more than 4 on a wave or a camp, which is why this is super cool
@@hellsonfireheart1086 so she ended up running around gromp, and I ran towards the bot lane through tri bush. She jumped onto me at the same time my ghouls came back to me, so I all inned her and got her flash, then cleaned up the bottom lane for a double kill.
@@NinetalesOCE i mean ye, she should've just fight you at the blue cuz you had no ghouls to deal any damage to her, later when they came to you it was too late
@@hellsonfireheart1086she is aggro-ed by blue, is down 300 hp, probably has no CDs bc she just used them on blue. Best case scenario for her is she takes 10+ seconds on her clear and dances around for cooldowns to secure her blue. There is 0 universe where she is able to just walk at yorick in that specific scenario.
@@60lbs18 blue is not slowed so either she has her e soon or she took 2lvl q wich will be a mistake if you go on blue after wolves anyway, if she has e its the only thing she needs to win this, she is down maximum 100 hp, and she has healing from champs which doesnt stop healing from monsters on her passive so one q or e on yorick and in 2 seconds she has the same percentage hp as him. If lillia played carefully its easy win for her even without botlane prio, but then we look at the map and yorick should be dead in this scenario. maybe she doesnt need to just straight fight him ofc, but she doesnt need to run either, just play it slow and wait for botlane to help.
@@hellsonfireheart1086 e slow only lasts 2 seconds and she likely started the blue with it from wolves. e has a 14 second cooldown which means 12 seconds of downtime. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, probably on an 8 second timer when she sees yorick. Judging from the hp of blue and her mana, she also definitely used w on the buff which is another 14 second cooldown. Lillia has 534 hp compared to yorick's 884 hp. That is MORE than 300 hp. idk where you're getting 100 from...? Ghouls are finishing red and sprinting to yorick right then and there, if lillia gets hit by cage, she has to burn flash, if not, she is dead. The only situation where yorick can die here is he misses e and w, ghouls get sidetracked by roaming mid, and wastes 10 seconds before walking in a straight line at lillia.
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no one ever thought a yorick jungle would have time to terrorise a lillia on her clear. groundbreaking stuff
Just a quick heads up, this is VERY dependant on your rune choices.
This exact clear works because the talents choice (+9 AF/ +9AF / +60HP) all increase the jungle items burn damage to let the timing work for when ghouls return from gromp.
Highly recommend and it fits in well with any of my usual recommended rune choices. Could even rune absolute focus to make it quicker if you like using phase rush.
If you can't invade after the clear, gank mid or bot instead.
But without mistwalkers, how can yorick invade any jungler, is his E and Q dmg enough?
@@alexandrubucurica1709 The goal here isn't to kill the enemy jungle. We just want to disrupt/smite steal their camps away. If they aren't impacting our lanes, then we have a better early game automatically.
Phase rush with absolute focus gathering storm double adaptive has always been my go to honestly, could solo full clear even before jungle changes
@ninetalesOCE can u bring a in-depth with voice guide on how to walk away from jg camp n let ghoul finish the camp? can u also show us the raptor start possibility? thx
By switching out +9AF for +8AH I find It seems more consistent, but it's 6 seconds slower
i thought i was watching the bear for a sec because this guy is COOKING
Holy shit this is insane
Gonna try this out thanks man ❤
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What time do you ward to see enemy jungle path. Also, I'm having trouble killing raptors fast enough before my ghouls come back after killing gromp, any tips? A voice-over explaining it in detail would probably help
By switching out +9AF for +8AH I find I can do it more consistent, but it's 6 seconds slower
@@Dan-ix3ik I’ve definitely got more videos coming, unfortunately im sick with the flu right now and cant even speak so cant record much. It’s likely you’re killing the raptors too slowly or your ghouls are not killing gromp fast enough. 6 is still good to solo red very fast.
good stuff, what rune are you using ?
@@anohuy4922 I’d strongly suggest taking my usual which is hail of blades (cheap shot, eyeball and ultimate hunter) and pairing it with precision secondary (cut down, legend alacrity)
I give this a month before they patch it
man i can only get 6 ghouls ima keep practicing tho
How did you go? Any luck getting the full 7?
This is 100% getting nerfed soon. They're probably gonna block you from ever having more than 4 ghouls at the same time.
I thought they died if more than 4 ended up in the same place; I guess it must only check on spawn (since most of the time they're running down separate lanes, I guess it hasn't come to light).
@@dhabu9017 I main jungle and it's a little weird how they work. There can only be 4 ghouls around Yorick at once or 4 by the maiden but any other ones outside that radius (typically whenever ghouls are traveling to Yorick from maiden because they didn't aggro on the wave) they are in a limbo state where they are not close to either one of their limiters so you can have a non restricted amount between them and as long as they don't get too close to either Yorick or the maiden they'll not despawn because technically they aren't violating the rules of 4 ghouls around yorick or maiden.
The most I've had before is 8 and it's easiest to do after clearing Wraith camp and tagging red with your E. If you go to the opponents blue side jungle afterwards you can actually have the leftover ghouls go Midlane for you
I wouldn't expect a nerf anytime soon, this has been in the game for years and never been addressed. Realistically, we've never had a way to consistently abuse it. This is only recently changed.
@@dhabu9017yorick can have as many ghouls as he can get on the map, however he has a death radius around himself that kills more than 4 ghouls. Its usually tricky to get more than 4 on a wave or a camp, which is why this is super cool
ye, cool, but i dont understand why lillia was scared, she easily beats yorick in every 1v1, her botlane has prio and she probably should have smite
@@hellsonfireheart1086 so she ended up running around gromp, and I ran towards the bot lane through tri bush. She jumped onto me at the same time my ghouls came back to me, so I all inned her and got her flash, then cleaned up the bottom lane for a double kill.
@@NinetalesOCE i mean ye, she should've just fight you at the blue cuz you had no ghouls to deal any damage to her, later when they came to you it was too late
@@hellsonfireheart1086she is aggro-ed by blue, is down 300 hp, probably has no CDs bc she just used them on blue. Best case scenario for her is she takes 10+ seconds on her clear and dances around for cooldowns to secure her blue. There is 0 universe where she is able to just walk at yorick in that specific scenario.
@@60lbs18 blue is not slowed so either she has her e soon or she took 2lvl q wich will be a mistake if you go on blue after wolves anyway, if she has e its the only thing she needs to win this, she is down maximum 100 hp, and she has healing from champs which doesnt stop healing from monsters on her passive so one q or e on yorick and in 2 seconds she has the same percentage hp as him. If lillia played carefully its easy win for her even without botlane prio, but then we look at the map and yorick should be dead in this scenario.
maybe she doesnt need to just straight fight him ofc, but she doesnt need to run either, just play it slow and wait for botlane to help.
@@hellsonfireheart1086 e slow only lasts 2 seconds and she likely started the blue with it from wolves. e has a 14 second cooldown which means 12 seconds of downtime. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, probably on an 8 second timer when she sees yorick. Judging from the hp of blue and her mana, she also definitely used w on the buff which is another 14 second cooldown. Lillia has 534 hp compared to yorick's 884 hp. That is MORE than 300 hp. idk where you're getting 100 from...?
Ghouls are finishing red and sprinting to yorick right then and there, if lillia gets hit by cage, she has to burn flash, if not, she is dead. The only situation where yorick can die here is he misses e and w, ghouls get sidetracked by roaming mid, and wastes 10 seconds before walking in a straight line at lillia.
this is dogshit and no counterplay, RAIIJOOTTTTT DO YOUR WORK