I’m a baby Atiny and this was a great, super helpful guide! I had no idea Mingi writes all of his own raps, that’s so cool to me! I knew Hongjoong produced but I didn’t know that haha
@@bethanykettler5960 ahhh I’m so sorry the first half is like a year old and I wasn’t aware of the change I was searching everywhere to try and find the updated mbti 😭😭
wait-why yuyu and san's cover wasn't mentioned??? 😢😢😢 but still thank you for making this, i'll be recommending this to reactors that wants to learn more about our 8 pirates 🧡🧡🧡
waaaaah even woo's dance to suicide hotline and his very first cover 😭😭 even dear name... to my youth of yeosang and their funny variety shows also, the biggest festival which is mawazine... but all in all, you did a great job! kudos to you and the time and dedication you spent in making this. and it would be fun for the reactors to discover some hidden facts and stories about them so thank you for this 🧡🧡🧡
First of all, thank you for the effort to make this video. I read the description to find out that it took you two years of continuous attempts to make this video. I am a pretty new atiny who got into them a few months ago. I only know about the members from some other guide and some of their popular variety content. But since I am yeosang biased, I do know about him a lot more than I know about other members so I can only give my opinion on the basis of the knowledge I have. I would first like to compliment you because it takes a lot to make these videos and the creator gets nothing out of it. Secondly, I love the fact that included the sources of the clips used on the top right corner. I hope you are up for some criticism as well because I have quite few: 1) My most disliked thing about this video is that it has nothing new or different than the other guide videos. Like everytime I watch these videos, I learn something new about the other members but your video just felt like a longer version of another guide with a lot more clip but almost the same information. 2) I genuinely don't get the point of including a separate section for various pairs in Ateez. The length of the video is already ridiculously long but it would have been justified if it actually contained some important aspects or information related to the group or members but I don't think the dynamic between any two members of the group is important enough to be included in the guide. Fans should rather learn about their dynamic with each other as they watch Ateez's content. If there is an important fact regarding two members (like woosang Or yungi joining the same company) , you can include that in the video without making an entire separate section for it. 3) This is related to the second one. The length of the clips used is actually really long. The point gets delivered with just a few clips. These just added to the length of the video unnecessarily. I would prefer it a bit more chopped or compressed. 4) I have noticed that atinys hold on to things for longer than needed. For example, the concept of demon line in Ateez. If it was something like the term "halateez" where even though the fans coined the term, the members actually acknowledged it and used it then including that would make sense. But the members have never acknowledged the "demon line" nor have they ever used it. I just really don't like fans take their made up jokes on insiders a little too seriously. It bothered me in the other guide videos as well. In my opinion, it shouldn't be included in guide videos as it isn't anything official or even mentioned by the members and it really puts hj, sh and sn in a box of being demonic or aggressive even though they have grown so much and have shown so many other personas on stage. 5) Even though hongjoong himself introduced his brother to us officially, I am someone who doesn't like involving the artist's family into their career. I don't think "New" fans need to know that much information about the members' families. From here on my critiques are related to Yeosang but I am sure atinys who have been a fan for longer will be able to tell you about the missing point from other members' intros as well. 1) You just completely skipped over the fact that after leaving Bighit, yeosang was chased by 6 agencies and KQ put in a lot of effort to get Yeosang. He was really popular pre debut and even had fan accounts pre debut. 2) I don't why guides don't like to or don't want to talk about Yeosang's lack of lines as if it's something that shouldn't be mentioned or should be just glossed over. Why is it so hard to talk about something that has actually happened to a member. There are literally Videos of him from 2019 talking about wanting more lines. And he still continues to say that he likes songs where he gets to sing more. 3) I really find it interesting that no one ever in their guide mentions about Yeosang's struggle with his self confidence. The videos that only want to focus on the positive things about the members can be excused but you literally talk about Seonghwa's struggle with self esteem but not about Yeosang's even though he has been so outspoken about how he feels that he is not good enough or lesser than others not just by saying but also through his covers. If you don't know about this then you can ask me, I'll provide you an explanation along with the clips. 4) I really don't like this or some other guide videos just sum up Yeosang's personality as just introvert and savage with the exact same clip that has been going on for years even though he is so much more than just shy and savage. Literally the members have mentioned so many times how pure, innocent and angel like he is, how he is the biggest hard worker in the group so much so that San even said that he started feeling resentful towards the world because he just couldn't understand that even after working so hard why wasn't Yeosang appreciated enough. Yeosang is also so unexpectedly quirky and witty but he is emotionally very strong and likes to keep his worries to himself. There are so many clips of members saying that he is so kind and considerate that he could never hurt anyone even if meant hurting himself. But I don't see it in any guide videos. That old clip of him roasting his members is actually so over used. I was glad that at least you didn't mention him being doberman or maltese or that he loves chicken a lot. These are not the things to be included in an idol's intro. Also, even if you wanted to mention him being savage, one clip is enough evidence. I don't get why do we have to make 1 minute long section of him being "savage". Instead you could have added any of the information that I mentioned in this comment. He is so much more than that. 5) The only thing that you said about his vocals were " He improved a lot to be able to get more lines" (as if he didn't deserve lines in their earlier eras and needed improvement to get the bare minimum lines that every member deserves), that atinys praise his vocals a lot, and he has deep voice with slight lisp. That's all you said. Which is actually such a fucking (sorry for my language) ridiculous and under appreciative way of describing his vocals. 6) You explained a detailed analysis of other members' dancing but for Yeosang, you said " He can command stage". Like it's honestly lack of interest and effort atp. Anyone who has paid even a little attention to Yeosang's dancing can explain his dancing style and strenghts. Even he himself has explained his dancing. You could have just quoted him and that would've been so much better. 7) As someone else mentioned about yunho and san, you forgot to mention about Yeosang's covers as well even though he too released cover as gifts for fans on his birthday just like Seonghwa. 8) If you wanted to add some random information, you could've talked about his birth mark, him breaking his finger on stage but still performing during their first world tour, him excelling in archery (even though he has hand tremors) and wrestling during isac and getting ateez the silver medal. Lite there's literally so much you could've talked about. 9) You talked about almost all the other members' hobbies except for him. No mention of him enjoying gaming or skateboarding. Nothing at all. Considering you worked on this for two years, the level of research done especially about Yeosang is just really poor. In conclusion, I was pretty disappointed and a bit angry as well. I hope you don't take this in a way it wasn't intended. I saw your video and felt like I should give my honest opinion.
Because Yeosang himself has said that their producer has told them that the amount of lines don't matter, the impact you create with those few lines does. Yeosang himself has said to agree to this. This was in their predebut show Codename Ateez.
@@laharichowdhury9395 He did? But in 2019, he also said that he wants more important lines in their songs. During world movement era, he also said that he likes songs in which he gets to sing more and that is why his favorite song from the album was sector 1 and which is why his favorite title track is halazia. So if are going to go from what he says then he clearly has asked for more lines and has been since consistently indicating that he wants to sing more. Which is the reason why even though he already released a cover on his birthday this year he still instead of just giving a photobook or some other merch, recorded 3 more covers for us even when he had practice during the preparation and performance at Coachella. Mind you even between that busy schedule and KQ didn't provide him a studio or any other venue to practice, he practiced it in his hotel bathroom just so he could record some covers of him SINGING. Also, talking about the impact of lines as if most of his lines in their songs aren't just filler lines. I didn't bring that up because that is a personal opinion of mine. His line distribution issue is just pure stats that I can show you the data of and then you can judge.
If 2024 guide takes 2 hours, how much more the 2025 guide video.
I’m a baby Atiny and this was a great, super helpful guide! I had no idea Mingi writes all of his own raps, that’s so cool to me! I knew Hongjoong produced but I didn’t know that haha
I can't imagine how much work this took! So much love for all your effort!
@@bethanykettler5960 ahhh I’m so sorry the first half is like a year old and I wasn’t aware of the change I was searching everywhere to try and find the updated mbti 😭😭
Great job, thank you for putting in the huge effort to make this, it is very much appreciated!
Awesome guide🧡🧡
I love the effort and care you put into this🤧
worth it to watch it. Thank you
Ugh I just love yeosang so much 🥺🙈❤️
wait-why yuyu and san's cover wasn't mentioned??? 😢😢😢 but still thank you for making this, i'll be recommending this to reactors that wants to learn more about our 8 pirates 🧡🧡🧡
@@milune1117 it was one of my biggest regrets not adding it but I had finished Yunho’s part before it came out 😭
waaaaah even woo's dance to suicide hotline and his very first cover 😭😭 even dear name... to my youth of yeosang and their funny variety shows also, the biggest festival which is mawazine... but all in all, you did a great job! kudos to you and the time and dedication you spent in making this.
and it would be fun for the reactors to discover some hidden facts and stories about them so thank you for this 🧡🧡🧡
First of all, thank you for the effort to make this video. I read the description to find out that it took you two years of continuous attempts to make this video. I am a pretty new atiny who got into them a few months ago. I only know about the members from some other guide and some of their popular variety content. But since I am yeosang biased, I do know about him a lot more than I know about other members so I can only give my opinion on the basis of the knowledge I have. I would first like to compliment you because it takes a lot to make these videos and the creator gets nothing out of it. Secondly, I love the fact that included the sources of the clips used on the top right corner. I hope you are up for some criticism as well because I have quite few:
1) My most disliked thing about this video is that it has nothing new or different than the other guide videos. Like everytime I watch these videos, I learn something new about the other members but your video just felt like a longer version of another guide with a lot more clip but almost the same information.
2) I genuinely don't get the point of including a separate section for various pairs in Ateez. The length of the video is already ridiculously long but it would have been justified if it actually contained some important aspects or information related to the group or members but I don't think the dynamic between any two members of the group is important enough to be included in the guide. Fans should rather learn about their dynamic with each other as they watch Ateez's content. If there is an important fact regarding two members (like woosang Or yungi joining the same company) , you can include that in the video without making an entire separate section for it.
3) This is related to the second one. The length of the clips used is actually really long. The point gets delivered with just a few clips. These just added to the length of the video unnecessarily. I would prefer it a bit more chopped or compressed.
4) I have noticed that atinys hold on to things for longer than needed. For example, the concept of demon line in Ateez. If it was something like the term "halateez" where even though the fans coined the term, the members actually acknowledged it and used it then including that would make sense. But the members have never acknowledged the "demon line" nor have they ever used it. I just really don't like fans take their made up jokes on insiders a little too seriously. It bothered me in the other guide videos as well. In my opinion, it shouldn't be included in guide videos as it isn't anything official or even mentioned by the members and it really puts hj, sh and sn in a box of being demonic or aggressive even though they have grown so much and have shown so many other personas on stage.
5) Even though hongjoong himself introduced his brother to us officially, I am someone who doesn't like involving the artist's family into their career. I don't think "New" fans need to know that much information about the members' families.
From here on my critiques are related to Yeosang but I am sure atinys who have been a fan for longer will be able to tell you about the missing point from other members' intros as well.
1) You just completely skipped over the fact that after leaving Bighit, yeosang was chased by 6 agencies and KQ put in a lot of effort to get Yeosang. He was really popular pre debut and even had fan accounts pre debut.
2) I don't why guides don't like to or don't want to talk about Yeosang's lack of lines as if it's something that shouldn't be mentioned or should be just glossed over. Why is it so hard to talk about something that has actually happened to a member. There are literally Videos of him from 2019 talking about wanting more lines. And he still continues to say that he likes songs where he gets to sing more.
3) I really find it interesting that no one ever in their guide mentions about Yeosang's struggle with his self confidence. The videos that only want to focus on the positive things about the members can be excused but you literally talk about Seonghwa's struggle with self esteem but not about Yeosang's even though he has been so outspoken about how he feels that he is not good enough or lesser than others not just by saying but also through his covers. If you don't know about this then you can ask me, I'll provide you an explanation along with the clips.
4) I really don't like this or some other guide videos just sum up Yeosang's personality as just introvert and savage with the exact same clip that has been going on for years even though he is so much more than just shy and savage. Literally the members have mentioned so many times how pure, innocent and angel like he is, how he is the biggest hard worker in the group so much so that San even said that he started feeling resentful towards the world because he just couldn't understand that even after working so hard why wasn't Yeosang appreciated enough. Yeosang is also so unexpectedly quirky and witty but he is emotionally very strong and likes to keep his worries to himself. There are so many clips of members saying that he is so kind and considerate that he could never hurt anyone even if meant hurting himself. But I don't see it in any guide videos. That old clip of him roasting his members is actually so over used. I was glad that at least you didn't mention him being doberman or maltese or that he loves chicken a lot. These are not the things to be included in an idol's intro. Also, even if you wanted to mention him being savage, one clip is enough evidence. I don't get why do we have to make 1 minute long section of him being "savage". Instead you could have added any of the information that I mentioned in this comment. He is so much more than that.
5) The only thing that you said about his vocals were " He improved a lot to be able to get more lines" (as if he didn't deserve lines in their earlier eras and needed improvement to get the bare minimum lines that every member deserves), that atinys praise his vocals a lot, and he has deep voice with slight lisp. That's all you said. Which is actually such a fucking (sorry for my language) ridiculous and under appreciative way of describing his vocals.
6) You explained a detailed analysis of other members' dancing but for Yeosang, you said " He can command stage". Like it's honestly lack of interest and effort atp. Anyone who has paid even a little attention to Yeosang's dancing can explain his dancing style and strenghts. Even he himself has explained his dancing. You could have just quoted him and that would've been so much better.
7) As someone else mentioned about yunho and san, you forgot to mention about Yeosang's covers as well even though he too released cover as gifts for fans on his birthday just like Seonghwa.
8) If you wanted to add some random information, you could've talked about his birth mark, him breaking his finger on stage but still performing during their first world tour, him excelling in archery (even though he has hand tremors) and wrestling during isac and getting ateez the silver medal. Lite there's literally so much you could've talked about.
9) You talked about almost all the other members' hobbies except for him. No mention of him enjoying gaming or skateboarding. Nothing at all.
Considering you worked on this for two years, the level of research done especially about Yeosang is just really poor. In conclusion, I was pretty disappointed and a bit angry as well. I hope you don't take this in a way it wasn't intended. I saw your video and felt like I should give my honest opinion.
Because Yeosang himself has said that their producer has told them that the amount of lines don't matter, the impact you create with those few lines does. Yeosang himself has said to agree to this. This was in their predebut show Codename Ateez.
@@laharichowdhury9395 He did? But in 2019, he also said that he wants more important lines in their songs. During world movement era, he also said that he likes songs in which he gets to sing more and that is why his favorite song from the album was sector 1 and which is why his favorite title track is halazia. So if are going to go from what he says then he clearly has asked for more lines and has been since consistently indicating that he wants to sing more. Which is the reason why even though he already released a cover on his birthday this year he still instead of just giving a photobook or some other merch, recorded 3 more covers for us even when he had practice during the preparation and performance at Coachella. Mind you even between that busy schedule and KQ didn't provide him a studio or any other venue to practice, he practiced it in his hotel bathroom just so he could record some covers of him SINGING. Also, talking about the impact of lines as if most of his lines in their songs aren't just filler lines. I didn't bring that up because that is a personal opinion of mine. His line distribution issue is just pure stats that I can show you the data of and then you can judge.
Thankyou❤
Yooo 2 hours? I'm here for it tho 😬
@@cheskalaureta4220 thank you for sitting through the whole thing 😭😭
@Seonghwas_legos I had to pause for a few minutes but I finished it until the end. It was fun to watch!
wow super long
Wow thats long.. 😅