KTC Bowling Tip - Modern Grip - Del Warren
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- čas přidán 17. 01. 2021
- Kegel Training Center VP Del Warren talks about understanding the modern fit and how finger pitches have changed. Learn how the modern release can be more effective by adjusting your finger pitches. Finger pitches can help you unload during the release.
It sounds like having a lot of reverse finger pitches would be also applicable to 2-handers. Do 2-handers often have 3/4 or 1 reverse pitches?
Good observation. 2 Handers often use even more reverse.
Still could never figure out my thumb pitch. Or fingers.. Then my middle finger broke oh well. I would try it all again..
so my ball seems to hang up a bit and i think i have 1/4 reverse pitch on my thumb so should i try forword pitch ? it doesnt hurt or anything just hangs up a bit longer then id like it to?
Thanks for the note. It's hard to say without seeing your full grip. Usually it's related to your span, normally anything shorter than 4 1/2 inches should be zero or forward. If you are getting stuck in the ball it could be several different things. One of them could be the reverse pitch is causing you to squeeze hard which will cause slow thumb timing at times but you should also have trouble dropping it sometimes. You can also call us on the phone and talk through it: 863-734-0200
For a modern fit for the modern release, is the thumb actually pitched forward or is it still reversed but just not as much?
The pitch of the thumb is mainly dependent upon your span length and nature of your hand flexibility. Traditionally, the shorter the span, the more forward pitch; longer spans use reverse pitch. Adjustments are then made based upon your hand's flexibility and personal preference. If you have the correct pitch based on your span length but there's still an issue or discomfort, then adjustment needs to be made.
@@KegelTrainingCenterOk, good to know. Thank you for replying and the information. I will talk with my PSO and see what we can do.
Are we taking finger grip or conventional grip here? I'm an older guy and I bowled a lot when I was young but with alley balls. Everything was okay until I bought a new ball (conventional fit) and its been giving me fits. The thumb is pretty tight but I think its my grip; I've actually lofted it or failed to let go on occasion, and I've also muscled it in frustration and strained my bicep.
We are referring to a finger tip grip here. Some of the principles in a conventional grip are similar but not exactly the same. If you are having trouble letting go of the ball it is generally too tight of a thumb or you are gripping too tight (which could be fit related). I'd take it back into your shop and let them know the issue.
Do I press my thumb forward or backward? Which part of my thumb do I apply pressure with the front or the back?
If you need pressure you can push slightly forward at the knuckle. Never grab with the tip of the thumb, if you need to do that, you likely need new pitches.
@KegelTrainingCenter wow. Never knew this. Just got into the game as in buying a ball having it drilled for my hand 2 weeks into league last year with my hubby and kids. We all got one.. we always used house balls and just played against each other, but we were craving more and wanted something more competitive. Anyways....
I want to go somewhere that has a professional ball driller... . Someone who knows their s#¡t. Who can tell me amd watch me and all the good stuff... I want a professional performance fit
. . My thumb is now deformed... I'm probably doing everything wrong which if i keep going it will be even harder to brake all the bad habits and things i wosh someone taught me or helped me with. Sooooo. I'm blaming that on why I've been an ok bowler, and why I can play Qb and bowling at the same time. (Throwing the ball behind me and or dropping the ball becsuse I know there has to be reverse pitch in this thumb as well as a stretched span. Nothing against pur guy but i know there is more out there. 😊
I'm having a hard time, i came back after taking 12 yrs off. and i am an old school cranker im trying so hard to get to the modern release / im still muscling so bad/
If you haven't already...be sure to get your fit checked. It's likely that your hand flexibility has changed which would result in a fit change. If you have a fit that requires you to have high grip pressure it will be difficult to have a swing that is free which is a prerequisite to the modern release. This video should also help you identify if your grip could use some improvement.
@@KegelTrainingCenter ty I spent a couple Saturdays ago with Mike shady and we worked on being free, everything was good until on the way down. I just can't get loose. I'm going to one step and no steps until I can get it. I will get my grip checked to thank you so much.
I tried what he's talking about. It didn't work for me, I lost carry.
Sorry it didn't work well for you. Sometimes it takes a few adjustments to get it dialed in. Let us know if you would like to talk through the changes you tried.
I do not agree with this. I would go zero before reverse in the fingers. I am 54 and do just fine with 1/8 foreword finger pitches. I have relaxed my span a little.