For travel, I'd be going with the 24-200 every time. I'm with your opinion that whilst the optical superiority might be really obvious on graphs and charts, it's less so in the real world, and a lot can be dealt with in post.....but that versatility being in your hand is really useful all the time. When reviewing Canons version of this lens, came to pretty much the same conclusion. Thanks a lot for the mention mate really appreciate that :)
Great shots throughout Robert (apart from the out of focus flowers😄) - for travel I think you've made the right choice going with the 200. I'll have to review this video again in about 6 years when the Z7 starts to fall into my affordability bracket😄 Enjoy your trip to Germany.
Haha, I'll be glad when the Z lenses come down in price too. To be honest, it's much more interesting to see the Lego Cameras etc in action. Thanks for watching Andrew. 😊
The 24-200 is a brilliant travel lens as well as being one that I keep in my bag year-round. It stands proudly in my bag next to both S lenses, my 24-70 and 14-30.
That's the usual contents of my bag too Paul. Or if I'm wanting to carry less weight, I'll leave the 24-70 at home. I'm really keen to try out the 24-120 too. Thanks for watching. 😊
Sold!!!, after talking to you and now watching your video am sold on the 24-200mm as id use it for woodland photography and some vista shots i think the 24-200mm would suit me better. Now to talk to he finance department aka the wife to release funds. Great video Robert.
Glad the video was of some use Jeremy. I'm sure it will be great for your woodland shots. I can't take any responsibility if you get into trouble with your finance department though! 😂
Very good comparison. I have been working with my 200 mm lens this week. It is a great lens, I love it for flowers and some birds. Have a great trip. 😊
Great comparison mate. Drone footage was beautiful too! I'd have made the same choice, with that extra versatility and minimal drawbacks. Even with the increased minimum focus distance, that extra focal length should get you just as close, or closer, to any macro subjects? Hope you have a great trip in Germany mate. Looking forward to the vlogs!
Cheers Kieran. Still getting to grips with the drone, but I'm getting more comfortable with it. Yeah, I imagine I could still get some decent close-up results at the long end of the lens. Thanks for watching mate. 😊
Nice work with this mate. I’ve heard good things about the 24-200, even Nigel Danson stands by it right? First shot was nice, looks like the cloud is a massive bird! (I’m seeing things again). Some great shots and broll, love seeing drone shots there, that light was great. Enjoyed the comparison. That looks like the ideal lens to take on long walks! Hope the Germany trip goes well 👍
Ha, I hadn't seen the bird, but I can't unsee it now! 😂 Yeah, Nigel Danson has one too - if it's good enough for him, I'm sure it'll do the job for me! Cheers mate. 😊
Hello All! May be it will be helpful for Nikon 7zii owners. I had problem "Lens initialization failed" during the first attachment of 24-200 Nikkor Z Lens to camera. It was solved when I turn camera on with the lens adjusted to the maximum focal length - 200 мм. It was my second lens of this type. The first has defect of small plastic ring with Nikkor name at the front of the lens - the ring was not fixed correctly - it jumps out - I exchanged it. The first lens also has initialization error - but it was gone by turn camera off and on as suggested.
Thanks for sharing. I haven't had these problems, but I have the first version of the Z7. Is your camera's firmware up to date with the latest version?
I sort of came the same conclusion... it's hard to tell the difference (aside from obvious differences as you start approaching 35mm+ when the 24-200 starst to close down) but optically they are very similar. I think it's only when you s tart getting to longer FLs like 105 and 135mm that the 24-200 starst to have sharpness issues (a bit of softness) in the corners but the 24-70 f/4 can't even go there so it's not really a knock against the 24-200 because between the two it's you either get a shot beyond 70mm with the 24-200 or you don't get anything with the 24-70 because it stops at 70mm (or you have to crop in to get an equivalent Angle of view, but that can degrade the photo quality versus just zooming and maintaining your max resolution, not a huge concern for on-screen use but for printing it may be). Either way, in the shared focal range, both are great options. Obviously the 24-70 f/4 has the constant f/4 going for it, but the 24-200 has the focal range (at the cost of a variable aperture). For landscape this is probably not a huge issue since you'll most likely be shooting at f/8 or smaller apertures (like f/11) which both lenses can do, the 24-200 just has a longer zoom range making it more convenient especially if you're in a situation where you want to carry a minimal amount of gear (like hiking) as it could replace a 70-200 or 70-300 (from a zoom perspective, not necessarily image quality) and allow you to go out with just one (or possibly two, if you wanted a wide angle) lenses.
You've summed it up very well there. In the end, I think the positives outweigh the negatives. Thanks for watching and taking the time to share your thoughts. 😊
Good comparison with the out in the field test, I would have gone for the same choice of lens. I did think of going to Stanage Edge when on holiday, but opted for Mam Tor instead. I'm sure I'll be back there at some point, nearest hills to where I live 🙂
Hi Rob Good comparison information thanks .. A question Would you recommend any filters I would need to take for an Alaska cruise in a couple of months . It will be on a Z5 with 24-200 Cheers BB
Thanks - sounds like a great trip! I always like to take at least a polariser and an ND64. The polariser is great for woodland photography, or anywhere you want to remove glare and reflections, and you can get reasonable long exposures with the ND. If I have more bag space, I'll take more NDs (up to ND1000 perhaps) and a graduated ND to balance the skies a bit.
@@Robert-Bishop Hi again Robert Appreciate the information ….thanks It looks like I’ll need the 67 mm ones to fit the Nikon 24-200 ..does that seem correct ? Looks like you get a get a package of them for a decent price. Is Hoya the better quality ones in your experience ? Cheers BB
@@billybobperth4368 No probs. Yeah, 67mm filters for the 24-200. Hoya are good, but to be honest I've used cheap ones too - the Amazon Basics filters are actually not bad. I think the more expensive ones tend to have more fancy coatings, so they may be more grease/scratch resistant etc. If you have other lenses with larger filter threads, it can also be a good idea to buy the largest size you need (say an 82mm) and then get some step-up rings for your smaller lenses. So you'd have a ring that fits onto the 67mm lens thread, and accepts the 82mm on the other side. That way, you can use the same filter for all your lenses, just buying the cheap step up rings that you need.
Beautiful images and the comparison between both lenses is not a lot at all. Both great lenses. Fantastic comparison showing the lens flair, I didn’t pick that one up when looking.
Great video Robert I love your images, I agree with you about taking the 24-200mm because you never know when you might need that extra reach and seeing that they are so close in quality why not. Anyway enjoy your trip keep safe and take care, Steve.
Good choice mate - the versatility in reach will be a good plus on your trip and those minor flaws in ghosting , lens flare and fringing I am sure will not be an issue. If I had to chose I’d make the same decision. Great film as always and splendid drone footage in a stunning location one I’ve yet to visit. Stay safe for that -ve test - as you know I got pinged but I didn’t catch it and out of isolation now so hoping to get out with the camera soon ! Have a great trip 🇩🇪
Cheers Andrew. Will also have the 14-30 with me, if needed. Decided I'm going to take my Vanguard Discover 42 on the plane with me. That Lowe Pro that you have looks fairly similar. Did you choose a new bag yet? And yeah, we're being fairly cautious with going out. Even cancelled going to Tramlines Festival. Better get a negative result now! 😂
@@Robert-Bishop think I’ve settled on that bag but always looking around and just waiting for the next update on RAG status to travel abroad. Think it’s early August. Won’t be going till after the rules change mid August when we don’t have to self isolate if pinged and then it will be just picking the cheapest flight times and keeping everything 🤞🏻 Be a last minute thing I think . Good idea to dodge the festival !!
24-200, no contest. Whatever you're loosing in optical quality is negligible. Besides, shooting mostly on a tripod at f.8 or higher makes that point moot anyway. More reach and less lenses is always better. (For me at least) and that's why I got myself a Sony RX100M7. It's a pocket camera that I take everyday on a hike and it has plenty resolution for its 1 inch sensor and a 24-200 equivalent lens. Little pocket rocket 🚀 My main gear is Fuji BTW
Yeah, in regards to sharpness there is barely any noticeable difference. The 24-200 does get more lens flare and aberration issues though. It worked great for my trip, and as you say the benefits of not having to carry extra lenses outweigh those negatives. I'll still be using my 24-70 for most stuff, but the 24-200 is definitely my go-to for traveling now. Thanks for watching. 😊
It hadn't been released when I made this video and I still haven't had a good go with it. It's definitely on my list though, so will hopefully get chance to do a video in the future. Thanks for watching. 😊
Thanks for the reviewing the lenses! You had some excellent photos there. I always find it very helpful when I see comparisons like this. Looking forward to seeing your Germany photos and video!
Because the 2 lenses are so similar optically I have to point out one negative of the 24-70 lens that made me go for the 24-200 and that is the inconvenient necessity of rotating the zoom ring out off the stow position before you can start shooting. The 24-200 on the other hand is ready to shoot at all times. Set the 24-70’s zoom ring at the 24mm mark and compare it side by side with the 24-200 also at 24mm and you see what I mean
Yes, excellent point Philip. I guess the stow size of the 24-70 will be a benefit to some, but as you say, you can be ready to shoot quicker with the 24-200. Thanks for watching and your comment. 😊
Thanks Terry. Yeah, I think for the average user, that will definitely be the case. The pros will go for the 24-70 2.8 and that leaves the f4 in a weird spot, where it's only marginally better. Thanks for watching. 😊
I get a lot of enjoyment out of flying my drone and capturing footage that would otherwise be impossible, so I won't be getting rid of it I'm afraid. Most people seem to like it, but you can't please everyone I suppose. Thanks for watching.
For travel, I'd be going with the 24-200 every time. I'm with your opinion that whilst the optical superiority might be really obvious on graphs and charts, it's less so in the real world, and a lot can be dealt with in post.....but that versatility being in your hand is really useful all the time. When reviewing Canons version of this lens, came to pretty much the same conclusion. Thanks a lot for the mention mate really appreciate that :)
I think you've summed it up quite concisely there Dave. Looking forward to getting there now. Thanks for watching mate. 😊
Great shots throughout Robert (apart from the out of focus flowers😄) - for travel I think you've made the right choice going with the 200. I'll have to review this video again in about 6 years when the Z7 starts to fall into my affordability bracket😄 Enjoy your trip to Germany.
Haha, I'll be glad when the Z lenses come down in price too. To be honest, it's much more interesting to see the Lego Cameras etc in action. Thanks for watching Andrew. 😊
The 24-200 is a brilliant travel lens as well as being one that I keep in my bag year-round. It stands proudly in my bag next to both S lenses, my 24-70 and 14-30.
That's the usual contents of my bag too Paul. Or if I'm wanting to carry less weight, I'll leave the 24-70 at home. I'm really keen to try out the 24-120 too. Thanks for watching. 😊
Excellent real world comparison. You can pack a couple of primes with 24-200mm instead of a big telephoto. That will take up the quality noticeably.
Yes, there are certainly some good prime options in the Z line up too. Thanks for watching. 😊
Sold!!!, after talking to you and now watching your video am sold on the 24-200mm as id use it for woodland photography and some vista shots i think the 24-200mm would suit me better. Now to talk to he finance department aka the wife to release funds. Great video Robert.
Glad the video was of some use Jeremy. I'm sure it will be great for your woodland shots. I can't take any responsibility if you get into trouble with your finance department though! 😂
Very good comparison. I have been working with my 200 mm lens this week. It is a great lens, I love it for flowers and some birds. Have a great trip. 😊
Thanks Sandra. 😊
Great comparison mate. Drone footage was beautiful too! I'd have made the same choice, with that extra versatility and minimal drawbacks. Even with the increased minimum focus distance, that extra focal length should get you just as close, or closer, to any macro subjects? Hope you have a great trip in Germany mate. Looking forward to the vlogs!
Cheers Kieran. Still getting to grips with the drone, but I'm getting more comfortable with it. Yeah, I imagine I could still get some decent close-up results at the long end of the lens. Thanks for watching mate. 😊
Nice work with this mate. I’ve heard good things about the 24-200, even Nigel Danson stands by it right? First shot was nice, looks like the cloud is a massive bird! (I’m seeing things again). Some great shots and broll, love seeing drone shots there, that light was great. Enjoyed the comparison. That looks like the ideal lens to take on long walks! Hope the Germany trip goes well 👍
Ha, I hadn't seen the bird, but I can't unsee it now! 😂 Yeah, Nigel Danson has one too - if it's good enough for him, I'm sure it'll do the job for me! Cheers mate. 😊
Hello All! May be it will be helpful for Nikon 7zii owners. I had problem "Lens initialization failed" during the first attachment of 24-200 Nikkor Z Lens to camera. It was solved when I turn camera on with the lens adjusted to the maximum focal length - 200 мм. It was my second lens of this type. The first has defect of small plastic ring with Nikkor name at the front of the lens - the ring was not fixed correctly - it jumps out - I exchanged it. The first lens also has initialization error - but it was gone by turn camera off and on as suggested.
Thanks for sharing. I haven't had these problems, but I have the first version of the Z7. Is your camera's firmware up to date with the latest version?
@@Robert-Bishop Yes - version 1.4
I sort of came the same conclusion... it's hard to tell the difference (aside from obvious differences as you start approaching 35mm+ when the 24-200 starst to close down) but optically they are very similar. I think it's only when you s tart getting to longer FLs like 105 and 135mm that the 24-200 starst to have sharpness issues (a bit of softness) in the corners but the 24-70 f/4 can't even go there so it's not really a knock against the 24-200 because between the two it's you either get a shot beyond 70mm with the 24-200 or you don't get anything with the 24-70 because it stops at 70mm (or you have to crop in to get an equivalent Angle of view, but that can degrade the photo quality versus just zooming and maintaining your max resolution, not a huge concern for on-screen use but for printing it may be). Either way, in the shared focal range, both are great options. Obviously the 24-70 f/4 has the constant f/4 going for it, but the 24-200 has the focal range (at the cost of a variable aperture). For landscape this is probably not a huge issue since you'll most likely be shooting at f/8 or smaller apertures (like f/11) which both lenses can do, the 24-200 just has a longer zoom range making it more convenient especially if you're in a situation where you want to carry a minimal amount of gear (like hiking) as it could replace a 70-200 or 70-300 (from a zoom perspective, not necessarily image quality) and allow you to go out with just one (or possibly two, if you wanted a wide angle) lenses.
You've summed it up very well there. In the end, I think the positives outweigh the negatives. Thanks for watching and taking the time to share your thoughts. 😊
Good comparison with the out in the field test, I would have gone for the same choice of lens. I did think of going to Stanage Edge when on holiday, but opted for Mam Tor instead. I'm sure I'll be back there at some point, nearest hills to where I live 🙂
Well Mam Tor is a must, so I think you made the right choice. Thanks for watching. 😊
Your review was very fair and well-reasoned. Thank you so much for sharing!
Many thanks Todd, cheers for watching. 😊
Hi Rob
Good comparison information thanks ..
A question
Would you recommend any filters I would need to take for an Alaska cruise in a couple of months .
It will be on a Z5 with 24-200
Cheers
BB
Thanks - sounds like a great trip! I always like to take at least a polariser and an ND64. The polariser is great for woodland photography, or anywhere you want to remove glare and reflections, and you can get reasonable long exposures with the ND. If I have more bag space, I'll take more NDs (up to ND1000 perhaps) and a graduated ND to balance the skies a bit.
@@Robert-Bishop
Hi again Robert
Appreciate the information ….thanks
It looks like I’ll need the 67 mm ones to fit the Nikon 24-200 ..does that seem correct ?
Looks like you get a get a package of them for a decent price.
Is Hoya the better quality ones in your experience ?
Cheers
BB
@@billybobperth4368 No probs. Yeah, 67mm filters for the 24-200. Hoya are good, but to be honest I've used cheap ones too - the Amazon Basics filters are actually not bad. I think the more expensive ones tend to have more fancy coatings, so they may be more grease/scratch resistant etc. If you have other lenses with larger filter threads, it can also be a good idea to buy the largest size you need (say an 82mm) and then get some step-up rings for your smaller lenses. So you'd have a ring that fits onto the 67mm lens thread, and accepts the 82mm on the other side. That way, you can use the same filter for all your lenses, just buying the cheap step up rings that you need.
@@Robert-Bishop
Much appreciated for the advice Rob
Beautiful images and the comparison between both lenses is not a lot at all. Both great lenses. Fantastic comparison showing the lens flair, I didn’t pick that one up when looking.
Cheers Paul. Yeah, only really an issue when shooting directly into the sun. Guess it's the lens coatings and whatnot. 😊
Great video Robert I love your images, I agree with you about taking the 24-200mm because you never know when you might need that extra reach and seeing that they are so close in quality why not. Anyway enjoy your trip keep safe and take care, Steve.
Thanks Steve, couldn't agree more. 😊
Plz Sir 24-70 and 24-200 which better ?
Great stuff Rob, 03:37 is superb 👌
Looking forward to seeing the trip to Germany, take care mate 👍
Thanks Ben. 😊
Good choice mate - the versatility in reach will be a good plus on your trip and those minor flaws in ghosting , lens flare and fringing I am sure will not be an issue. If I had to chose I’d make the same decision. Great film as always and splendid drone footage in a stunning location one I’ve yet to visit. Stay safe for that -ve test - as you know I got pinged but I didn’t catch it and out of isolation now so hoping to get out with the camera soon ! Have a great trip 🇩🇪
Cheers Andrew. Will also have the 14-30 with me, if needed. Decided I'm going to take my Vanguard Discover 42 on the plane with me. That Lowe Pro that you have looks fairly similar. Did you choose a new bag yet? And yeah, we're being fairly cautious with going out. Even cancelled going to Tramlines Festival. Better get a negative result now! 😂
@@Robert-Bishop think I’ve settled on that bag but always looking around and just waiting for the next update on RAG status to travel abroad. Think it’s early August. Won’t be going till after the rules change mid August when we don’t have to self isolate if pinged and then it will be just picking the cheapest flight times and keeping everything 🤞🏻 Be a last minute thing I think . Good idea to dodge the festival !!
24-200, no contest. Whatever you're loosing in optical quality is negligible. Besides, shooting mostly on a tripod at f.8 or higher makes that point moot anyway. More reach and less lenses is always better. (For me at least) and that's why I got myself a Sony RX100M7. It's a pocket camera that I take everyday on a hike and it has plenty resolution for its 1 inch sensor and a 24-200 equivalent lens. Little pocket rocket 🚀 My main gear is Fuji BTW
Yeah, in regards to sharpness there is barely any noticeable difference. The 24-200 does get more lens flare and aberration issues though. It worked great for my trip, and as you say the benefits of not having to carry extra lenses outweigh those negatives. I'll still be using my 24-70 for most stuff, but the 24-200 is definitely my go-to for traveling now. Thanks for watching. 😊
Great video Robert...just wanted to leave a quick comment and a like whilst on vacation here in West Virginia. Hope you are well mate!
Thanks a lot Paul - I hope you're having a great time. Looking forward to seeing the videos. 😊
The 24-70 does seem to have better colors and contrast.
Cheers Lawrence, thanks for watching. 😊
Pls made short video on z mount 24-70 vs 24-120
If I manage to get hold of a 24-120, I certainly will Raj. 😊
What about 24-120 4
It hadn't been released when I made this video and I still haven't had a good go with it. It's definitely on my list though, so will hopefully get chance to do a video in the future. Thanks for watching. 😊
Thanks for the reviewing the lenses! You had some excellent photos there. I always find it very helpful when I see comparisons like this. Looking forward to seeing your Germany photos and video!
Thanks Walter. I'll try and find a cool castle or something. 😊
Great video
You know how they act up Nikon z7?
Thanks. All the shots in this video were taken with the Z7. 😀
Good review Robert👏👏
Thanks Eric. 😊
Because the 2 lenses are so similar optically I have to point out one negative of the 24-70 lens that made me go for the 24-200 and that is the inconvenient necessity of rotating the zoom ring out off the stow position before you can start shooting. The 24-200 on the other hand is ready to shoot at all times. Set the 24-70’s zoom ring at the 24mm mark and compare it side by side with the 24-200 also at 24mm and you see what I mean
Yes, excellent point Philip. I guess the stow size of the 24-70 will be a benefit to some, but as you say, you can be ready to shoot quicker with the 24-200. Thanks for watching and your comment. 😊
This is an excellent informative video
Thanks, I'm glad you found it useful. I appreciate the feedback. 😊
@@Robert-Bishop more than welcome
Interesting video. Got these lenses and I suppose a lot of folks wonder if the 24-70mm may become surplus to requirements. Think it still has a place.
Thanks Terry. Yeah, I think for the average user, that will definitely be the case. The pros will go for the 24-70 2.8 and that leaves the f4 in a weird spot, where it's only marginally better. Thanks for watching. 😊
Hello my friend good morning
Hello. 😊
I also found this lens has horrible lens flare, and it also produces pretty ugly Sunstars which is not in your review.
Thanks for your input Danny, I didn't get the sunstar problems, but useful for people to know.
Got boring fast. Let's just down to the lenses and get rid of the drone footage
I get a lot of enjoyment out of flying my drone and capturing footage that would otherwise be impossible, so I won't be getting rid of it I'm afraid. Most people seem to like it, but you can't please everyone I suppose. Thanks for watching.