RuneScape's Most Controversial Skill
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- Sailing is due to come out sometime in the future. But with the addition of Sailing, a lot of people are asking, "Why not Summoning too?".
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Horselord is how I imagine every tick perfect efficient high level player
id take summoning over sailing any day
Sailing could be dope I'm still hopeful atleast hahah
Or dungeneering
Nah never, sailing will have 100% intresting adventure stuff, bosses in the ocean and stuff.
Stop turning this fooking game into bots, pirates and scammers.
bro no go paly rs3 shut the f up u muppet
My favorite part about summoning,
GOD BIRDS.
The iconic Saradomin owl follows you around after YEARS of storing an egg in the bank.
RIP
bro stfu n go play rs3
That wouldn't require summoning at all, we have pets in the game already
Yeah, after what, lvl 70? 75?
That was a long and nearly unreachable task for mid level players back then.
@@internet_internet yes it was level 70. Yes it was a pain in the butt, collecting colored tokens to use for familiars.
@@alsoyes3287 Exactly. Summoning was ok... But it flipped all metas on their head.
The best thing about summoning was the incentive to continue slayer past 99 just for the sake of charms haha
Except slayer was meh for charms, every1 just sat waterfiends to 99 sum
I quit not long after summoning, and pre-eoc.
No one missed you
Same, it's a garbage skill that already ruined rs once, why people want it again i'll never understand
the skill didnt ruin rs. the update that made the combat ability based did. (people complain about rs3 items coming to oldschool then praise half of the identical rs3 items with different names.@@gokin although you cant please everyone because theres a minority of people that said GWD ruined the game so i have no idea.
@@JJ49672game died in 2011. Ppl who disagree just dont know fuckall 4real
you cant please everyone theres no doubt about that. Id rather the game was re released in 2008-2011 but 2007 was fine atleast for me. other say Barrows should be BIS so no matter what someones pissed off lol. I just remember people hating the glacor boots then osrs got cerberus and people despised the korasi then osrs got voidwaker@@SlayNorway
Can’t wait for sailing. I absolutely loved summoning pre eoc. However I do wish that it wasn’t as powerful as it is. I think that it could definitely work in osrs if it was done differently.
I like the idea of pets that we already have in game having some small perks to them just like the Skill capes do
Honestly same tho, I feel like if we could get some small perks from pets I would feel obligated to grind more for pets.
Mr Mammal looking like a Titan from AOT at the end.
Summoning combined with players current game knowledge would turn everything to ezscape
Plugins make the game ezecape 😂😂 we allow them but not summoning
@@jackwolstenholme8213 because it'd be even easier?
But you don't complain about plugins ? You don't have to even use 1% of brain power to do quests anymore... quest helper does them for you, that is 100% a bigger problem then adding a new (old ) skill to oldschool... Hunter isn't oldschool, construction isn't old schoool, Kourend isn't oldschool, Fossil Island isn't oldschool, Voidwaker isn't oldschool.... LMS isn't oldschoo... But Summoning is where you draw the line ? Lmfao just zero intelligence.
@@ZebraKatzWhereItsAt have to draw a line somewhere, don’t you?
@@joost4656 Fam it's 2024, go outside, the problem isnt the game being easy, we all have lives and irl obligations. The problem is botting, and RWT. Does anybody even check highscores anymore, not an accomplishment, this isn't 2005.
Should add requirements for summoning vs letting every player have access to
Summoning wasn't that bad, Honestly if they just removed the yak then i doubt people would care. Honestly i wouldn't mind if they added Non tradeable Pet satchels that you have to craft with like 70/80/90 crafting. It would make your otherwise useless pet useful for something other than bragging rights. Could Even Balance it by making Different types of craft able Satchels, IE,
Apothecary's Satchel: Stores Herbs (clean/unclean)
Alchemist's Satchel: Stores Brews (4 dose only)
Miner's Satchel: Can carry ore.
Smither's Satchel: can carry metal bars.
Lumber Jack Satchel: can carry logs and leaves.
Rune crafter's Satchel: can carry Rune essence and talismans.
Carpenter's Satchel: can carry planks and tools.
Could even require certain items that are already in the game in order to craft certain types of satchels like
Rune crafting satchel could require all types of the essence pouches, could even be the End game version so the pouch doesn't degrade.
Lumber jack satchel could require the Forestry kit.
Apothecary satchel could require Herb sack.
Miners satchel could require a coal bag.
Carpenter satchel could require Plank sack.
Really the only benefit would be that you don't have to keep the sacks in your inventory. theyd.
No bro. We have enough bags and storage. What a waste of fucking time that would be to code that shit. Give them actual uses.
@jackwolstenholme8213 That would be an actual use. Albeit one you apparently don't like, and I'm not sure why you're so mad about a perfectly fine idea as it doesn't even need to be implemented in the way I described.
where can i get that sweatshirt?
I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed with sailing
I think so too. Sadly it will probably break our banks and be some dumb skill. But lets hope its actually good :D
Of course they will. It's clearly closer to a minigame than a skill, nevermind that people have been wanting sailing since 2008. It's never going to live up to expectations
Yeah sailing around the whole of osrs sounds exactly like a minigame, very mini@@mpg272727
7:06 you can see his curser is buffering meaning his computer was at 100% cpu usage. Probably from a malware scan or obs being greedy.
Let me clarify. That is my SECOND curved bone from Calvarion. It’s a big meme in my community now. The pain continues until morale improves 😊
I think a revamped version of summoning would be good for the game as long as its not identical to how it was originally
We really don't need to make late game combat do more damage. Really we need more things for level 30 to 75 to do and acquire.
Current meta is buy membership, do waterfall and monkey madness. Then afk sand crabs until your in the high 60s. Then do some quests and AFK NMZ until level 80. It's only then that you really start unlocking stuff to kill. Maybe you do efficient slayer, but it would be nice to see more things for accounts in between the waterfall quest and song of the elves quest. The rat king is a step in the right direction and really just adding like 2 more bosses would fix it. Full time afking a couple months before being able to start a raid isn't much fun. They do a good job of this with other skills such as motherlode mine, blast furnace, giants foundry or GotR, but combat gets left out
Ruthless and toothless nahhh loool what a leged
legend
Sailing is scary bad
Not really it opens up a lot more opportunity should it be a skill I don’t no I see how it can be seen as one but equally let’s not forget it’s more a transport system depends what else comes with it in the future
Agreed
That's looking on the bright side. It would not have been my choice for a new skill, but now that it's going forward I think it's going to open up whole new possibilities for the game.
Why not put summoning in over sailing, sailing sucks. We kinda already have summoning in the game as alts and accept aid so would probably fit right in and then be that much more op.
If summoning happens they'll just reboot 2007 scape again after floundering for 3-4 more years with osrs
Awesome seeing you here love the content
If sailing happens I’m out
bros crying cause a new skill is coming out 😂@@Ash-Ketchum-and-Pikachu
its pretty messed up for how close the votes were that jagex didnt expand on shamanism and sailing before going 100% on one. Sailing seems pretty fucking lame, it felt like a memevote in the first place and i bet shamanism would win if both would have been elaborated on.
Bugging shamanism sucked
They should expand shamanism!
@@Jacobus.J nty i wanted taming
Ruthless and toothless was crazy 😂😂
I wanted summoning when they were polling the new skill and were getting sailing… if they swapped over to summoning I’d be more than fine with it or even just gave us summoning. Maybe with new familiars and some reworking.
I miss this summoning so much, it brought so much more to the game, low level - mid money making options, much better solo bossing opportunities and the best looking skillcape to boot 😆
Editor coming in clutch on this one today.
Great video, but need to know where to buy that hoodie
Summoning would be a hella lot better than damn sailing, lmfao.
I think if summoning is an option to explore it should have been explored further when the new skill was being decided. As of this current moment I don't think it's possible to even consider or probable for that matter, the new skill isn't even here yet, summoning shouldn't even be a thought at this moment
I'd personally rather have summoning than sailinin myself, seeing as we basically have summoning with alts anyways.
Summoning would only really benefit people without alts, and iron memes.
Garadoes edit was done excellently. We
Im saying i want summoning back ever since they took it away but i hear that almost nobody summoned no more and the summon beasts got sad
I’m here for the chance of an Astrix clip and I’m happy I did
Summoning would be cool if it was linked to hunter
Like how smithing pretty much requires mining, why not hunt for your own summons.
But yes to summoning, just not how it was in rs3
Feel like a new protection pray should be added as well as a new fighting style. That would really stir things up
the pak yaks were amazing for slayer and camping content but it would directly effect the cost of everything . i just want what ever makes this game live forever that all i care about
A nerfed version of PRE EOC summoning...
Lock it in!!!!!!
Realistically, it would need to not be as powerful as before, but more resourceful.
Summoning should favor UIM, and Irons more then Mains of course.
Let's say a follower is summoned for 30 minutes, based on your summoning level as an Iron, it should give an extra percentage 3-5% time longer, also reducing use of what we're 'Charms'
Make ALL followers start as storage only, with ability to spend summoning charms ect at summoning master for Combat ready version or a mix of combat/storage
summoning as a whole wouldnt need to be broken like it is on rs3/pre eoc if you where to downscale the steel titan to make it on par with the other titans and make bob's like pack yak have less room it would honnestly fit just fine into 07 or just remove the whole special attack which is what made alot of them some what op.
man just wants to see the game die lol
I've never understood the summoning hate. Feel like the game was just fine exactly as it was pre eoc. Feel like the only reason osrs was made from an 07 save is because to just make it right before eoc would be them admitting they made a huge mistake. Most of the people who hate summoning prolly never even had a bunyip in rs2 days.
Summoning is EOC, summoning is Rs3, summoning has nothing to do with OSRS.
Summoning was out when u were in the womb boy
@marcusfossa6695 I just can't agree I loved summoning back in the day. Also summoning is not eoc it came before the special attack loss and all the bs everyone hates. Everyone just combines the two because in truth they were too young to really know and understand better so now they just bandwagon
9:12 mammal low key looks like syndicate right here XD
Summoning was essential for a lot of late game content back in the day, but wasn't totally needed, yaks and unicorns where a bit overpowered steel titans were super overpowered, but utility summons I'd be okay with, like Stat boosters to aid dps rather than give dps
yeah steel titans ruined pvp for a while
i would like to know what the opinion of summoning would have been if the question would have been phrased something like this
"would you want the summoning skill from runescape3, to be added into osrs"
because it is an important distinction, 'summoning' as definition isnt a bad skill idea, but summoning as it is in rs3 is a bad idea
Muts is such an OG! Love his content so much man's got such big nuts lol
the bucko calv curved bone is made worse by the fact that its his second curved bone there with no pet
you add summoning to osrs, people then moan game is to easy at say 96 summon if you got yak out for bossing or raids.
I really, really, really liked Summoning before EoC. I dont think it would be a problem for OSRS, but maybe it could be a little more limited, specially for BoB familiars.
I cannot express how happy I am that you inserted that Gyarados sound effect. Thank you so much.
bro no stfu n go play rs3 u dohnut
The fact the summoning skill was introduced early 2008, I'm surprised it, as well as other quests that were introduced pre EoC haven't been reintroduced into the oldschool environment. Honestly a lot of decent content was overlooked entirely and is now considered new school but reality is the content was designed with the original games in mind.
If they brought summoning back as an enhancement to ONLY skilling, I’d be open to it.
I think summoning would dramatically & negatively affect PVM due to power creep - but it would be great to have skilling be profitable again / some what comparable to PVM profits like the old days.
Imagine steel titan speccing everything
much rather have summoning than sailing...
what breaks summoining is steel titan and pakyaks tbh
but like bunyips,magpies,wolperting,unicorns maybe the mid pakyak or something? its a good goldsink for the shards if we were to do that again. im liking it, just depower it a bit
How could you forgot the war tortoise ?!
@@Austinpowas i remembered it a bit later haha
That one person that has 10m talismans waiting for that day
If summoning came to osrs id actually give it a thorough playthough. Used to love my summon tank and still do in rs3 would be great!
I really miss having summoning beasts in OSRS... Ive start osrs in 2008 and to me it has always been in game
Summoning has to be better than sailing.
if they brought summoning and sailing i aint gonna lie it would be cool to incorporate them together
What
best part about summoning is that it's in RS3 and not in OSRS
Where did panic07 go?
Actually valid, haven't seen him in a grip
why not just drop rs2 (2009ish) as its own game, rather than implement summoning to OSRS?
I wish, but i dont think they have a backup like 2007 and a dedicated team to help with maintenance and shit
Why don’t they just make a new RuneScape without them crappy rs3 combat mechanics
summoning came out 6 months after OSRS version of rs2. our was august 07, summoning was like jan or dev of 08.
@bassamelamin577 they do they are just lying.
I feel like the real problem with summoning will be adding inventory spaces cause maybe u could stay forever at some bosses
Just make it so hostiles target your donkey
I agree, I like summoning but it would be a massive power creep as it stands in its old form. It opens the door for a new wave of pvm content yeah, but at what risk to current content.
@@MatthewC25Plugins have made content super fucking easy and you think summoning will be broken? There were like 3 good familiars back in the day 😂
@@jackwolstenholme8213 summoning would be the single biggest DPS increase in the games history. There would be mid tier summons with 5-6x the DPS of thralls, not to mention the inventory extensions. Before we more than double the pvm ceiling in one update, let’s take some incremental steps first lol.
Summoning for utility only.
Nerfed invent sizes.
Just make life bearable for those of us who can only play 60 mins a day.
The DPS boost doesn't REALLY matter with today gear.
Maybe as powerful as having 2 thralls be fine.
Or a smart thrall like leagues.
It doesnt need to be broken to bring value.
And sailing is going to be a waste of time for everyone other than content creators and the janitors. @MatthewC25
Fuck summoning, id quit
i believe that summoning when done well could be a good update to the game, obviously you cant make it as broken as is was when it was released to the main game and it should not work in PvP i think, but bossing with a summoning tank account was pretty fun :D
only thing about summoning that was fun was the fact you could make 99 def tan kwewith steel titan that could do dmg for u in pvp, nothing else.
MrMammal has a nice grinch face
sailing has been a meme for almost 2 decades. Bring us summoning with balanced familiars
I like the summoning ish idea, but more oldschoolRS style, apart from the main game, the Dev Blog: Pet Ranching
01 April 2020 is a nice example of this, maybe they could mix the skill with arceuss book, and explore pets as utilities / skilling
No to summoning but boss/skilling pets could have some perks.
osrs gotta increaze server capacity with the new expansion 🗣
They could probably increase it a little, but the server computers doubling in speed doesn't allow them to double the amount of players per server.
They could of course change combat mechanics a little to allow way more people per world, but there is no way that's getting through a poll.
Alternatively they could use regions where a server might only process the GE, and when you walk out of the GE you get moved to another server. This can be done in a seamless way which doesn't add any latency between jumping regions. But, when it comes to combat it has a negative. You can't fight across regions boundaries as they are on different servers. In PvP where 20ms latency matters it becomes an extremely hard problem.
It's a pretty well studied problem in computer science and in the end it basically comes down to either buy better hardware and hope nobody cares, redesign the problem so that each region is trivially parallelizable.
Currently each world is it's own instance making the entire world trivially parallelizable. But breaking up the map would require chunks within the map to be trivially parallelizable which is incompatible with current combat mechanics. That is to say if you can interact across chunk boundaries the best you can be is trivially parallelizable plus a constant factor which would noticably change interactions across chunk boarders.
There are clever algorithms that reshape chunks based on population density and they work. But it's jagex were talking about, they aren't going to invest in 10 devs to implement that. Each dev would have a salary of 120 to 300k and it would take at least a year to implement. It's way cheaper to wait for AMD or Intel to release a faster CPU, upgrade there servers here and there and hope that people don't like popular worlds. It's a hard problem to solve and the best answers aren't perfect. There's a lot of active research in the field if you're interested in it though
I’m voting for summoning if J1mmy promises to make a song about it
Only real concern with summoning would be how OP it is. If added, it should be similar to Thralls, a support thing, not like stell titans offering +15% def bonus plus low cooldown range like claw specs lmfao
Fuck you and you opinions, it’s a game, I wanna be op.
I have a screenshot of 1kc masterclue scroll 3rd age axe, tell me how rare and lucky is that, must be top 10
The rarity of a kc master clue 3rd age axe is 1/313,168 super rare. Doesent matter how much you open, at 1kc or 1000kc its still 1/313,168.
@@AeroTipz yes but on 1kc is wild
@@sven689 I agree though it does make it more insane. Most players never get to see 3rd age. Grats btw.
Send it in brotherman
@@aleco678 where too?
Summoning > sailing
But the arceuus spellbook is basically summoning anyway
Pets should have a few inventory slots
Summoning is a great skill and makes so much sense.
instead of a new skill for summoning, make a new spell that you can cast on your pets to turn them into thrall-esque creatures for a duration of time who do different things based on your pet? and taking a pet you can "summon" into the wildy for pking means you can lose the pet
Content Creators: Summoning bad!!
Also Content Creators: *Religiously uses thralls*
nice sweater
We have thralls. We're good.
People say summoning will make the gane EZScape but don’t plugins already do that? And everyone uses them fine so can’t shit on summoning.
Id love summoning
Dudes name is, O....
What's the price of that shit? 10b? 😂
Someone tried to sell it to odablock for 90b.
@@IlIIlllIlIIIlllllIlIIIl Lmfao! Lowkey would do it if I was Oda
i dont want sailing
i'd say i'm more open to summoning than sailing actually
The problem is most content creators and active players are out of content because no life. I didnt even know how to vote on a poll till i played for a year and a half....
Idk why some people bag on summoning… it’s one of the best utility skills to ever get released.
I would love Dungeoneering back in the game.
go do gauntlet
Id prefer summoning over sailing but leaning towards no
If Ditter is important then i'm king charles. who the fuck is ditterbitter
Summoning was great, gimmie my unicorn
If summoning is introduced, it should be done the way ghosts and zombies are managed.
With little increases, but greater utilities; ie something to increase run energy, slow (VERY slow health regeneration), or in some case have very niche uses. Packyaks were horrible, bunyip ruined healing items, and most weaker foods.
Not to mention titans.
2-3 years after sailing release maybe
Say it with me, "OLDSCHOOL". NO to summoning...
Most people who vote no to summoning don't even know why it was disliked, they just know it's a popular opinion to parrot or they have an EOC-phobia.
I remember the usual GE discussion when Taming was being polled was just "pack yak was OP"
Summoning could absolutely work with a rework in OSRS, it's just it would need a complete overhaul to fix all the issues it brought (GE market went wild, training method sucked, it messed with combat too much, brought a lot of visual clutter, some summons were OP)
It'd probably be possible but I don't think it's worth it for Jagex to do right now when the majority of the playerbase are already biased against it way more than Sailing.
I would definitely love a rework of Summoning, but it would he a waste of dev time until the OSRS team has at least shown they can make Sailing work
wouldn't mind having some perks on those useless pets we grind
While I love summoning I do think the bobs will trivialize a LOT of osrs. But that’s just my opinion.
I would absolutely quit osrs if they brought summoning to it lmfao, might as well bring EOC to it too and action bars and MTX
That's *really* good shit-talk from Donator... 😳😳😳
Throwing in ads for your other channels every episode is one of the several reasons I miss Behemeth. I don't care about your podcast, please stop pushing it on me every damn episode.
No summonening thats going to make a lot of people quit