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- Are there civil engineering jobs in South Africa? How to look for an internship and where to look for an internship in South Africa.
My guest, Sipho Madlala is a Civil Engineering Technologist with over 19 years experience. He shares his journey with us and overall thoughts on the civil engineering industry.
Programmes mentioned by the guest:
www.cogta.gov.za/index.php/mu...
www.cogta.gov.za/ (for your local municipality)
Time stamps:
00:00 Start and Guest introduction
02:25 What is the difference between a technologist and an engineer? University and University of technology training.
07:40 Different types of jobs available within the civil engineering profession
10:40 Other certifications required in order to progress
12:33 Project Management Training
13:39 Where to look for jobs?
20:45 Whats happening in the civil engineering industry?
25:20 Which channels to follow when job hunting?
26:59 Sipho on getting his internship
27:47 2010 Benefits
29:28 What happened after the 2010 world cup?
32:00 Sipho's background
35:27 Getting his internship
37:00 Career Regrets
40:19 Sipho's advise and mentorship
44:00 Last remarks from Sipho to graduates
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This is another valuable and educational conversation right here.
thank you!
Thank you so much.
I love what you are doing. Please keep going 👍
Thank you
Thank you, Sisi Boni, for this valuable conversation. I hear Sipho state where graduates must go when they want to enter the industry, but it is not easy, so every place has its own language. I've noticed something our education system failed us, a few months ago President said that" we just don't have Good Planners". while we do have people who hold bachelor's with Dean's Merit & Master's Degrees, but there are no good planners, which means education is just a business nowadays.
the advice that I can give final year students, if you don't want to stay home next year, please do apply for postgraduate studies, and then you'll try to apply for a job while you are studying your postgrad.
Hi, I didnt see that speech with the president. Sipho did speak about post grad studies but I thought it wouldnt be interesting because people watching the video are mostly graduates but I see now that I shouldnt have left it out cos to some people its not obvious. Thanks for your input.
Great advice.
You are doing a great job sister.
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Thanks Boni, im doing my National Diploma for Civil Engineering so this will be helpful.
You are welcome, do go for an advanced Diploma.
@@liferesetwithboni i will definitely do. Thanks
T-BO touch is now a Civil Engineer🔥🙆🏼♂️ Good info he has, very much appreciated🙌🏽
Boom
My advice to graduates and matriculants: Avoid the diploma, aim for the BengTech, Bsc/Beng and if you are forced to do the diploma make sure you do the advanced diploma immediately afterwards.
There is no work, and no money for diploma graduates.
hey bhuti, what if I dont qualifiy for university? University of technology and TVET is not a good idea now? and if so, why cos all this infrastructure we had in the 80s and 90s came from these Diploma graduates and it was solid. Why change whats working? I know you are not government , lol.
My friends in the industry used to say so, according to my understanding, things have changed. even my lecture at my undergrad level was used to emphasize us to do Postgraduate studies because the workplace is not favorable. I can say there is a big gap between the workplace and the EDU system because most students graduate & become a part of the unemployment rate nowadays. Especially in the Engineering fields.
@@liferesetwithboniThe problem is that technicians generally work in maintenance and they solve well defined problems. These opportunities are limited because of governments failing policies and municipalities not managing budgets to maintain infrastructure.
Some(or most) private consulting companies only hire technologists and Engineers. They have a policy of not hiring technicians. Hence, if you do a job search now, you will hardly find any jobs looking for a technician.
So BengTech is offered at university of technology, and some universities (UJ, UNISA…). This is what replaced the Btech. If one does not qualify for the BengTech, they can still do the diploma but with a mindset of eventually getting an advanced diploma. This means they must endeavour to get high marks (65%-70%) so they can qualify for an advanced diploma (formally known as Btech).
I would not advice one to go the TVET route unless they don’t have a choice. If you go through this route you must endeavour to eventually get to the Btech/Adv.Dip level if you want a meaningful career.
I partially agree with you, but some T and S series diploma holders with a wealth of experience and some short courses in hand hold high positions in some of the reputable companies and earn decent salaries too
To cut it short, if you have dimpola, no experience. Bare in mind that the competition is high, you'll compete with people who are holding Bachelors & Masters. So you'll end up being unemployable.
So do postgrad or some certificates, you'll thank me later.
Thank you sis Boni this is really educational. Alot of us are getting direction on what steps to follow from your channel. Thank you also Mr for sharing your intelligence and knowledge with us. 🙏❤
Sis, please interview a mine safety officer...not much is said about safety officers
Hello, I have to look for them! I think Ive only received one payslip in the past 7 months from a saftey officer.
@@liferesetwithboni thank you sis Boni, we would truly appreciate that. 🙏❤
Hi guys, thanks for stopping by! Please excuse the audio on my guest, he is a bit soft spoken than I am and you know the village is still struggling with resources but anyway I know you will find value, its clear just soft .
Also I'm noticing from the comments that the village is mentioning postgrad studies, my guest did speak about it but the contnet creator in me thought its too obvious , so I editied it out. Yes today there is no Btech, you need your Advanced Diploma or a Bachelor's Degree to raise your chances. I want to leave Sipho's email address from mentorship but my phone has died and cant access messages. :)
Time stamps:
00:00 Start and Guest introduction
02:25 What is the difference between a technologist and an engineer? University and University of technology training.
07:40 Different types of jobs available within the civil engineering profession
10:40 Other certifications required in order to progress
12:33 Project Management Training
13:39 Where to look for jobs?
20:45 Whats happening in the civil engineering industry?
25:20 Which channels to follow when job hunting?
26:59 Sipho on getting his internship
27:47 2010 Benefits
29:28 What happened after the 2010 world cup?
32:00 Sipho's background
35:27 Getting his internship
37:00 Career Regrets
40:19 Sipho's advise and mentorship
44:00 Last remarks from Sipho to graduates
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Easily put guys, When you go to a traditional [Beng/BSc] University you can register to be a candidate Engineer straight from Varsity. When you go to a university of Technology you can do a [Beng tech] and you'd need a [Beng tech Hons] then an MSc to be a Candidate Engineer but if you don't want that you can register as a candidate Technologist. But if you do a diploma you need an advance diploma then an honors and then an MSc to be registered as a candidate Engineer. As someone whose studied at all 3 levels I'd advise going to do a BSc or Beng Engineering for 4years at a traditional university as it gives you direct access to candidacy which is the most ideal role.
Got it!
not everyone who does engineering wants to be an engineer... technologists and techncicans also earn well.
Thank you.
As someone with a draughting qualification, experience and N6 in civil. He is right about contractors starting companies without knowledge or qualifications causing problems in the industry. Corruption is also killing the consulting space.
I know hey 😊
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Thank you 🙏
Wow! Great conversation with an amazing guest who possesses a wealth of knowledge and shares it very well.
Thank you Sisi for this valuable conversation 🥰
Thanks for stopping by! Step by step!
Thanks.
Thanks for the interview. Please consider bringing a data scientist.
On my plans but still arranging.
Can you please ask him about civil laboratory companies how do they get their jobs if they starting out
Some engineering programs in higher education need to be reevaluated because there is an increasing number of civil engineers who are currently unemployed, even as more graduates are being produced. It's time for a reassessment. advice for final year students maintain good grades then bridge out from engineering to ComSci postgraduate studies you'll smile alone later.
Hhay Bo!.that's drasti!.did you see the mechanical Engineer Video ? She is now teaching English in China..
No I haven't see it@@liferesetwithboni
Eii sis Bonny this industry is very bad now but what i can advise is that if you have a diploma and can’t find internships one can try to register with ECSA as a candidate technician though you register with money and it has annual fees but it can better your chances of getting a job.
But as for matriculations no guys go for BEng or Bsc if you wanna be a civil engineer and make sure you have a busary/sponsor there after you struggle that much.
Hi Thabani, why is a Diploma bad?
That's true, a lot of employers now look for registered individuals.
@@liferesetwithboni with our diplomas we can’t find job easily as it requires a lot of of experience and to be registered with a lot of bodies/ Councils in order for you to get a decent job with a reasonable salary.
But on the other hand if you did Beng/Bsc its very unlikely for you to stay at home coz the consulting firm mostly hire people with a degree.
@siphomadlala8516 how long can it take to be registered? I haven't received any payslip from a registered engineer . Most people have degrees but not registered.
@Sipho , as civil engineering community, we have seen government promoting TVET route and yet when you get to a point where you need to register with professional bodies like ECSA, SACPCMP, your TVET DIPLOMA is not recognized. Wht do you think such a young graduate should do
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Okay
Students that don't qualify for the National Diploma in Engineering, N Dip (Eng), at the University of Technology can enroll for the TVET engineering programme before they can be admitted into the N Dip (Eng) programme. There are no credits though.
Can you find us one for mining engineering please which one is the best compared to civil engineering
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Hey Bonnie thank u for this. Very informative and educational. Please interview a construction manager, I hear they are in demand.
Hi Hlengiwe, I'll look for them!
I currently work as a Construction Manager.
Hy sis Boni I hope you good, I would like to ask, would a certificate in project management be an advantage when you're applying for jobs as a graduate with no experience?
I don't know much about your industry but getting more skills to supplement your qualifications is never a bad idea.
@@liferesetwithboniI want to add it to an environmental management degree, thank you for your response 🙏
the curriculum has changed, BEng Tech is not the same as Diploma, BEng Tech is NQF level 7 then diploma is NQF level 6. BEng tech is now offered at the universities too. And since the diploma is phasing out people who have a diploma are required to do BEng tech. I'm a Civil Engineering student at UJ but what I'm still confused about is that our lectures told us that a technologist (NQF 7) and a technician (NQF6) are not the same but how ?🤔
Hi, Ill' ask sipho to check the comments.
The Diploma is basically new (Not phasing out) which has 360 SAQA credits, Only the National Diploma(240 SAQA credits) is phasing out. Having the Diploma NQF 6 enables one to register with ECSA as a candidate engineering technician, upon fulfilling candidacy requirements one is eligible to register a Professional engineering technician. Bengtech and Advanced Diploma are NQF 7 and they are the benchmark qualifications for an Engineering Technologist.
@@luthandomehlomane5623 oh I get so what’s the difference between a technologist and a technician?
@@nkulinkosi4895 According to ECSA, Technicians deal with well defined engineering problems. While Technologist deal broadly defined engineering problems.
Perfect response Luthando.
Hi, I would advice anyone pursuing civil engineering, if possible, to go for the traditional university route to become an engineer as it takes 4yrs to graduate compared to the university of technology 7yr route which entails N Dip (Eng) (3yrs) >> BTech (Eng) (2yrs)>>MEng (2yrs) route to meet the requirements to register as a Professional Engineer with the ECSA.
What about if you're doing Beng Tech?
Btech phased out , replaced by an Advanced diploma and B Eng Tech .
Hey Bonii. I know i might be late but it's all love. Could you please help us with apprenticeship programs for diesel mechanics please🙏❤
If I ask they say visit the companies you wanna work for but on the 1st of November Im posting a video by a Millwright, maybe you could learn something.
@@liferesetwithboni thank you I'll wait for it
Hey sis Boni.im new to this channel. Please consider interviewing a metallurgical engineer.
Those ones are hard to find, I only know one and he didn't even want to share his payslip with us.
Thank you so much sis Boni... I'm doing national diploma in civil engineering... next year I will be doing my final year which end on first semester (on june) from July to December I should be doing inservices training... so I head this gentleman saying we must submit our documents to local Municipality... which documents are needed exactly and when I arrive there should i say... do i leave them at receptionist or ...like I'm lost.. please can you ask him for me Thanks
Sipho will respond.
Can the gentleman please respond to my comment 😢I've been waiting
The easiest thing would be to go there, tell them your story of being a student or graduate looking for work experience. Ask if they offer such opportunities discussed by Mr Sipho. Go there with your updated CV ready.
I barely see construction projects in my area but Thats what I plan to do.
Please bring a mining engineer sis Boni
I havent interacted with one yet , not even a payslip.
CIDB my sister
My manager told me that the executors are the one earning more than engineers
Nice! 👏👏👏👏
he lied, sorry
Salary range for civil engineer in sa. From National diploma to degrees
Check here, but I'll also ask Sipho to respond
czcams.com/video/Jf4BkO3wTQc/video.htmlsi=pkqH5QyueX3_rZ4-
It's all company dependant. Salary ranges are different from company to company. Entry level without experience would be vastly different to an individual who possesses the same qualification and yet has years of experience in them.
I studied N1-N6 in Civil Engineering. Is sad how construction companies don’t recognise TVET students in this field.
I wish the Department could discontinue offering Civil Engineering in TVETs cause it is a waste. No in service training….nothing 😢. Is very sad.
Rather study Electrical or Mechanical at TVETs because opportunities are there.
I get your frustration
Department of public works,human settlement, infrastructure department and municipalities do recognize N courses....
My brother did N6 Civil Engineering and completed in 2010 and he never got an internship or any related job ever since 😪 he loved Civil with all his heart and it broke him so much not getting a job it the field… i hope they dont offer that thing anymore
what thing?Im lost, the N6?
@@liferesetwithboni yes sis boni N6 Civil Engineering from Fet collages , i wish they can stop offering it , it has no opportunities at all
So sad to hear that, but our fortunes differ from person to person. He must just keep trying or take his N6 and go for enrollment at a University of Technology in order to enhance his employment opportunities.
@@ScissorNtrue, my cousin too, she changed and did mechanical and got an apprenticeship within a year. Civil in SA is even hard for wits graduates to get internship
Crying never helped a goat, so whats the point of crying?
Yes
Construction independent development board - CIDB