Making Moroccan Black Soap (Savon Noir)
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- čas přidán 12. 06. 2014
- My attempt at making a Moroccan Black Soap, a 100% olive oil soap made with Potassium Hydroxide.
Thanks to Clara Lindberg for her inspiring information and photos. Visit her shop here: auntieclaras.com/ - Jak na to + styl
I'm Moroccan, great informations, and very well prepared episode. The bath is called Hammam and the glove is called Keess And we use a brown mud for our hair and face called Ghassoul
Very interesting, thanks for commenting!
Very nice Kevin! I just want to point out that olive oil takes longer to cook than other oils, when using KOH. Typically , KOH soaps need 3 hours to cook. But olive oil actually requires more cook time...up to 4 or 5 hours! You'll know it's done when you hit translucency in the paste. It is seriously the most frustrating oil to work with, next to Sunflower, when making KOH soap.
I find it funny though, that the difference between this, and Castile, is the addition of the olive paste.
Yay! You're back! Interesting soap, thank you for sharing. Clara's photography and soaps are beautiful!
yes they are, thanks for watching and commenting!
what you did is really amazing I love it. I'm an Arabic girl we use it in a different way, after we wash our bodies with a warm water we apply the soap all over the body then we stay in a steam room for 15 minutes. After that, we wash it the we rub by use the moroccan gloves and you will see the the dirt come out
+Rana Radwan Awesome, I love hearing stories like this, it's so interesting, thanks for sharing!
Good video, glad to see your back!
Nice to see you again! Thanks for making such an interesting soap, and for recording it for everyone! 😸
Thanks Heather!
Thank you Kevin, I love how you try something new.. So great. Say hi to momma! Can't wait for our next soap . Maybe some time a challenge would be fun! Hugs
I'd not heard of this type of soap before, and I really enjoyed watching you make it! Thanks so much!
you're welcome! Glad you liked it.
Hi Keven, i like your video, Im from Morocco and i thought i'd clarify a bit the names, so the Moroccan traditional bath is called HAMMAM and the glove is called KESS or KESSA everything else you said is true. Cheers
+bilal green Thanks very much! Have you been to a traditional Hammam in Morocco, what's a typical experience like?
+Kevin Devine yes i have Kevin, for almost all my life actually, you must know though that the Hammam tradition here in Morocco is a weekly or fortnightly habit and is not considered a luxury, Moroccan Women spend 3 to 4 hours in a Hammam session (Men spend a shorter time), first you go to the third room of the Hammam,usually the hottest and steamiest, you put black soap all over the body and Moroccan clay mask on the face and hair, and relax for 40 mn to one hour, then you wash out and go to the second room, moderately hot, this where you start the scrubbing exfoliation using the glove called Keess and wash your hair , the final step happens in room 1, this room is amazingly refreshing after the warmth of the earliest rooms, there you have a final washing after rubbing Argan oil bar soap. trust me when you get out after all this you feel like a new born with extra soft baby skin,this is true even for men.
+bilal green How interesting! Thanks so much for sharing!
ما هي المادة الحمراء ؟
+witch99soso عجين حبات الزيتون الاسود او الاحمر
Thanks for always going the extra mile and sharing how much you like the soap (or not) and actually using the soap so we can see the results! I always appreciate your videos!
you're welcome, thanks for watching and commenting!
Thanks Kevin for another great and fun video!
you're very welcome, thanks for watching and commenting!
Hi Kevin, thanks for the recipe. I'm going to use it for a very different purpose. The Moroccans have a lime and marble plaster called Tadelakt.The fats in the soap are pressed into the plaster and a reaction takes place that waterproofs the plaster so that it can be used in wet areas. I went to a workshop yesterday and learned how to apply the plaster. I've learned on youtube how to make it and you have just taught me how to make the soap. So thanks!
How interesting! When I was researching making this soap, I did read a blog that mentioned Savon Noir was used for a traditional plaster, but I wasn't sure how or why it was used...very interesting. Thanks for commenting.
Hey Andrew! Did you end up making tadelakt? How did this black soap work out for you? Thanks for the video Kevin
Really interesting.Glad your back Kevin :)
thanks!
Great video! Thanks for putting it together.
thanks!
Hey! Your're back! Yayyyy ;-)
:)
Excellent, excellent and thank you
awesome and informative video Kevin thank you so much x
Sure thing, glad you enjoyed it.
looks like the stuff i used in Morocco..will make thanks
TY😀!!
Thank you kevin
I'm Moroccan, you have done some great researches, almost all the information you gave is correct, I just add that while most people use Beldi soap not everyone uses Argan oil after it, some people spread Henna mixed with water and rinse it right away, some people don't do anything, there is no specific thing. The scrubbing glove is called "Kees" or "Kassaal" and other names.. Overall the soap you made looks successful, although it looks a little bit hard, but maybe it just needs the heat (Hamam's or bathroom's heat) to soften and be more easily spreadable :) Thanks for this video. By the way it feels sticky if you don't scrub, I think of it as dead cells sticking to my skin :)
Thanks for the info Meriem, that's really interesting. The soap has cured for several weeks now and is very nice. It is soft, it has the consistency of peanut butter, it does take a little work to spread it on your skin but it washes off beautifully. Thanks again for commenting!
You are welcome! I'm curious. Did you try scrubbing after using it?
Meriem ER-RAMI yes, I don't have a real "Kees" but I have a scrubby pad that's similar. Of course, I can't recreate well the hot humid environment of a true Haman, but I get my bathroom as hot ans steamy as I can :)
I don't go to the Hamam always, so it should work for you, as long as you can get the dead cells away after scrubbing/exfoliating, you know that when you see grayish bits coming out, I hope you don't use a harsh pad, because it can scratch the skin. A nylon fabric that is moderately harsh would work :)
What a great video, so fascinating, ive heard of african black soap, from Ghana i believe, its a solid soap that is wonderful for faces, but id never heard of this. Thanks for sharing, i just discovered your videos, and im really liking them.
Great! Glad you are enjoying the videos!
Thank you Kevin. I think I might try this out. my hubby has psoriasis & i think might help with exfoliation.
Let me know how it goes!
very interesting, thank you for sharing!
you're welcome!
Your channel should be called "The Curious Soap Maker" Thanks for sharing this!
Ha! That is me! Thanks for watching and commenting!
I loved the video
Thanks!
Nice and exciting video
Glamdassah thanks!
I have been to Morocco like 23 times and was looking for a receipt to make soap myself. The real one is like yours but often a bit softer, liquid-like. I shall try to make thids at home. Regards from Finland.
Thanks so much!
love the black rubber gloves.
lol...they're called "Venom" www.officesupplyking.com/Products/Venom-Steel-Industrial-Nitrile-Gloves--X-Large--Black--Powder-Free--50Box__MIIVEN6045.aspx?adpos=1o1&creative=52285490365&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CjwKEAiAt4mlBRDXwt_m9ICU4DcSJAAS_X0WRYIeGceZfyXF8xELUawvdi9o11gBztHQQcodEv3UPxoCx4zw_wcB
THANKS!!! Ordering...
good video. thank you for posting.
Thanks.
Do you check the pH of the soap? How do you do that?
i think you should try making a soap that smells like sugar cookies and the 2colors should be neon pink and neon green i'd love to see one like that
Thanks for the video. I am curious how the soap aged? Did you like it more after a while?
It did really well, seemed to improve with age!
Kevin - this is a really good video. I am the owner of Zakia's Morocco Argan Beauty Products (www.zakiasmorocco.com) and you have hit it spot on with your video. Moroccan Black Soap is truly unique and unlike other soft soaps. We do mix it with a number of scents, Eucalyptus, Fleur d'Oranger (orange blossom), Lavender, Argan Oil, Rose and others. This is a traditional product for Hammam (spa) and the exfoliating glove you refer is called a Kessa. When the skin is prepared by the black soap we then use the glove to rub off the dead skin cells and unwanted toxins. There really is nothing better than a good cleaning with Moroccan Black Soap and exfoliation. As you can see, the process is 100% with no additives, preservatives etc. And finally, "beldi" actually means "traditional" in Arabic and can be used with other products, but seems to be almost exclusively for black soap. Great job and thank you !! Zakia
Thanks so much Zakia, very interesting.
Hi
Thanks for the video
Can i add red clay to the soap? And if yes at which stage while cooking?
Regards
Yes you can (although I wouldn't add very much) and I personally would add it to the oils at the very beginning and mix thoroughly.
Thank you very much for sharing this education. Would you happen to know the shelf life being that no preservatives were not used?
No preservatives needed for soap...I've had some in my shower for over a year.
Good job on the video Kevin! May I ask did you use phenolphthalein to test your soap near the end? I use it so I know when to stop the cook process. My oldest soap 2 years old, and I only have about 3 ounces of it left, is starting to turn clear in spots. Don't know why it still has the same consistency feel and fragrance!
I don't use phenolphthalein, I've only made the one batch of the savon noir, I've given some away to friends but still have most that I made, I only use it once and a while, I do really like the feel of the soap. Mine also has a little that has turned clear but I just stir it back in without any problem.
Kevin Devine
You might enjoy it with a touch of pumice in it or walnut shell, mechanics I know love it as it conditions their solvent ravaged skin. Interesting how it turns clear in bits!
failed trying..what temperature crock pot..never gave a temp?
Kevin were the olives canned olives or were they fresh?
These were fresh, but I don't think it would matter much.
The way you were describing the texture, all I could think of was the Scottish word 'gungey' lol!
Kind of a thick gooey mix of jelly & butter. Hard to describe but I think that's what you mean :-)
+Jennifer A Shepherd haha...that sounds exactly right!
How can I calculate that by soap cal?
Hi Kevin, how many ounces of pureed olives are you using PPO? Are you discounting the water with the amount of puree? TY.
I don't remember exactly, it was probably around 2-3 ounces. I did not discount the water with the amount of the puree.
I used 25%
Great video. I have one question, can it be cooked in a regular pot rather than a crock pot?
+Moira Kirstin Boyd I wouldn't recommend it, you would have direct heat to the metal so you'd run the risk of burning/scorching. More importantly you can not use aluminum (which many pots/pans contain), lye reacts with aluminum and creates hydrogen gas which is very dangerous.
How do you check the pH of this soap? I made some using the glycerin method and think it's ok but not quite sure how to tell. Thanks.
+Kathy Candelaria I don't check pH, you can use pH strips, but they are more of a general indication of pH. If you want an accurate measurement you'll probably need a pH meter.
i like your video
hi kevin I don't have koh lye but I have glycerin can I make with out lye plz?
No, lye is required to make soap.
Is it weird when I watch your videos, that after you say Hello Soapy Friends, I reply out loud saying Hello Soapy Kevin. ?? lol. thanks for this vid. Another great instruction vid. :)
+Nadeen Sivic hahahaha...I love that!
Thanks for sharing. Did you like this well enough to make it again? Wonder if you could add sugar to it to make it a scrub? Will you do a video on how to make liquid soap?
Well, I think it will last a long time, but I have tried it in the shower and used a scrubber afterwards. My skin felt very exfoliated but I would say I like emulsified sugar scrubs much better. It's an interesting soap, but I'm not dying to make more soon.
hello,
I am Frenchy and I worked in a hammam spa or we use the "savon noir"(with green olives) to cleanse the body and remove all the dead cells with exfoliating glove. Here in France we are close to North Africa, Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco or black soap has been renowned. I do it myself and I use it once a week and the skin is cleansed and beautiful. I like this video. Thank you.
Looks like it would be a great gift for men. Cool love it.
Bye for now,
Lori
thanks!
I am many years late the soap in fact does become very soap you do not have enough water on yourself
The place called Hamam. ( M at the in not a N) Beldi and gloves are Called Kessa
Hello Kevin I do not understand English very well how standard set by the color red and What Is a Moroccan clay or sandalwood Thank you
+لتيين للتصميم I'm very sorry, but I don't understand your question.
+Kevin Devine Can I use any type of Black Olives
+لتيين للتصميم Yes, I would think so.
Hi kevin i want to ask you if we can make this soap by cold process way 😢
Hmmm....I suppose you could try but I don't think it will be nearly as successful. It may take a long time to fully saponify without the heat and I doubt you will get nearly as smooth a final product. But...I could be wrong, give it a try and let me know how it turns out!
конечно можете, только до применения мыла придётся подождать от 4 до 8 недель, для полного протекания процесса омыления. (Of course you can, only before using the soap will you have to wait 4 to 8 weeks for the complete process of saponification.)
I don't have a crockpot, and don't want to buy one either. It takes a lot of space, and nobody uses such pots here in Norway anyway. We use the stove top or the oven. So I don't know what on earth I could use the crockpot for other than fill up the cabinets with clutter or make some hot processed soap. Not that I like the rugged look of hot processed soap, so it will be only used to make liquid soap, I guess.
So, to make hot processed soap, the only difference from cold process is that heat is applied to the soap from an outside heat source, so that it will gel and saponify 100% when the cook is over. That should be able to do without a crockpot. Maybe the stovetop is not the best because of direct heat that can burn the soap at the bottom, and it can overcook and all sorts. But I am thinking about the oven. That should work, hopefully. That will be an even heat on all sides. And if the oven is set on a low temperature, it should cook and gel there as good as in a crockpot. Not that I know that or anything, or have any experience, since I have only made 1 soap. But a crockpot is really not a very advanced machinery. It has heat elements surrounding a ceramic pot. The ceramic spreads the heat evenly compared to metal. So a a crockpot is not very different from the oven. The only difference is that the heat is applied from the sides and maybe under the pot. When in an oven, it is also heated from above. So I think I will try as soon as I can find some potassium hydroxide. I really want to make this moroccan soap. If I can find a ceramic oven proof pot, that will be as close to a crockpot that you can get.
I think the stovetop is good to use as well, if you either use a ceramic pot and low heat, and then when the soap starts to boil, lift the pot and put two coins underneath (to elevate it from the hot plate). Or use a metallic or ceramic pot in a waterbath.
Thanks for an informative video. I will definately try to make this soap to use as a shower gel. Hopefully it is possible to ship potassium hydroxide by air. I guess I will need to buy it from abroad. We have like no soaping supply shop whatsoever. A small country, you know, with a population only like slightly under the state of Minnesota or slightly over South Carolina.
I have been in Turkey, and hamam is very popular there. But I refused to go, totally refused! Steamy hot when it was almost 124 Fahrenheit / 51 celsius outside, in the shadow. No, no, no. And I can't stand massage as well. In Turkey, they will massage you and almost "rip" of the dead skin cells by force, so you are left totally red. So they say. Some love it though, most of the tourists there do. But an hamam was the very last place in the world I wantet to visit.
I think I will scent my moroccan black soap with some spices or roses or something. Never ever eucalyptus or anything cooling. I bought a cooling shower gel once. I guess it was menthol crystals in it. Well, I was almost freezing to death in the shower! It was for sure cooling, not only some false claims on the package. So anything cooling does not work in Northern Norway. It is too cold here in the first place, as we are above the polar circle. But cooling stuff will work like magic in baking hot Morocco and Turkey, for sure. I guess that is why they add eucalyptus and not for example cinnamon.
I have always thought that Norway was extremely far away from America, but now I discovered that if you are in Anchorage, Alaska, and fly to New Orleans, that is exactly the same distance as to fly from Anchorage to Narvik, Northern Norway, where I am. I used Google Earth to find out. Not that it are any flights from here to Alaska anyway. But distances inside USA can be longer than from Europe to America.
I totally agree that a crock pot takes up too much room. Did you try making the soap in the oven ? did it work for you ? Please let us know your results. thanks
hello! can i use cold process to make this soap?
No, I don't think so. You really need heat to move the paste through the various stages...but I'm certainly no expert with Savon Noir, maybe you can do an experiment.
ok. i bought a slow cooker and i will try hot process... thank you for all your video!
***** sure thing.
Bonjour, est ce que c'est possible d'avoir les quantités en français svp?
+Zohra R. Je ne parle pas français , mais nous espérons que Google Translate peut aider. Ceci est une petite recette.
600 grammes d'huile d'olive
228 grammes d'eau
106 grammes l'hydroxyde de potassium
140 grammes pate d'olive noire
Esperons que cela vous aide.
Thank you for the recipe translated into French Kevin Devine. You are so sweet. I speak a little English. Yes, fortunately, there is the translation on google. Also, when you buy potassium hydroxide? Thanks for answering me.
+Zohra R. www.brambleberry.com/Potassium-Hydroxide-2-pounds-P4730.aspx
can you give me the detailed ingredients???? and explain the existence of black soap without black olive?? thank youuu ^_^
+Amara Marwa I go over the recipe in the video at 5:35. I don't understand the second part of your question...this soap does contain black olives.
+Amara Marwa The black soap you might be thinking of is African. It uses plantain leaves and is totally different.
Kevin not haman hammam😜
LOOL the glove is called Kessah not hamaas LOOOOOL
Thanks!
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