TOPAZ PHOTO AI (Photo Ai's Game Changing Update Explored) Version 2.4.0 FIRST LOOK
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I wish Topaz would focus on precision before they introduced new features.
Great job demonstrating the new features. One thing that would nice to add is the ability to rename the "layers"
I totally agree!
This is indeed a major update. It is exactly what I have wanted to do in Photo AI, but could not figure out how to do; and that is to do selective noise removal and sharpening. I had been waiting(and hoping) you would do a tutorial like this and voila you came through!!!!! Thank you Dave for this excellent tutorial.
Your videos are so helpful! I had played with the new version but learned so much from you. Keep up the good work.
I would like to see a magnetic feather brush, when you choose the subject, or just the back round from the subject, presently it doesn't get it exactly, as you either need to take away or add to the selection. In LR when you select auto mask with the brush, it acts like a magnet keeping you from spilling over to area's you dont want the adjustment, so long as you keep the inner circle in the area of the adjustment to make an exact adjustment With the LR brush there is a inner and outer circle, the outer circle is the feather. Another fine tut Dave, thank you!!
Your topaz AI update videos are very helpful. Thanks Dave!!!
Thanks Dave for showing us all the changes Topaz makes in Photo AI, that way we are always up to date.
Thanks Dave for updates review. Really helps to understand the program options.
Really nice upgrade. Thanks for your video!!
Thanks a lot for the demonstration of the new features Dave!
If you check the forum you will see a huge number of people are very unhappy with this update, me included. Lingyu, the Topaz Product Specialist is advising us to roll back to 2.3.2 until the developers can address the issues raised. For my part, trying to edit RW2 raw photos from my Lumix TZ200 results in version 2.4.0 crashing every time. CR3 raw images from my Canon M50 work Ok. I have taken Lingyu's advice & rolled back.
Sorry to hear that. I am sure they will get that issues taken care of.
glad you did this video I was fumbling thru the different part - you clarify the new actions
Nice job. Looking forward to trying it out. Thanks
Saw it when the update came out and figured out most f the (big) changes. Nice to get more info from you.
Thanks for the clear and structured explanations - much appreciated.
I too, love this update and the direction Topaz is going.
This update has made the Topaz more complex rather than simpler. Who performs color balance, cropping, and light adjustments in Topaz? Certainly not me. All of these tasks can be executed more effectively using Photoshop or Lightroom. Topaz should concentrate on its strengths, such as noise reduction and sharpening tools, and emphasize its high precision in those areas. They still haven't fixed the tint that appears after image processing. Most of the time, there is a noticeable yellow or magenta tint after denoising.
Thanks these Topaz updates Dave they are very useful.
Thanks, Dave, for bringing this to us. I just installed the new version and started working with it. I don't think the results have improved much, but the process is getting way better. To be able to segment parts for separate treatment is such an advancement. I had great misgivings when they abandoned the individual products, but now I am thrilled with this new product. I am so grateful to have it in my toolbag.
I love the update.
As I mentioned before topaz should stick to denoise and sharpen. Editing the image in other ways should be left to programs like Lightroom and Photoshop.
Agree. I was about to say the same thing when I noticed your comment. PS and LR have much more sophisticated controls for color and lighting. I’m guessing that Topaz feels compelled to add these features for those who want to use the app as a standalone. Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me, but, hey, I’m just a plebe photographer.
Excellent video. When I first saw the new interface I did not like it, but now you have explained how it works it makes a lot more sense and very useful tools. Thank you.
Thank you Dave. Super cool!
Because I (like a number of others) had issues with v2.3.0 (autopilot would not progress to face detect and I had to contact Topaz Support), yesterday, 03/03/24, I decided to view Topaz Community prior to downloading v2.4.0. Users were reporting a number of issues with 2.4.0, so I have not yet downloaded it.
Great as always, thank you!
Thanks Dave, great video. I have been using Topaz for A year now, and I love it. These enhancement are just brilliant. Awesome work!🎉🎉🎉🎉
Awesome!! Thank you!
Great review Dave, cheers from Nova Scotia.
Good day Dave, it's always a pleasure to listen to you, I always find your tutorials useful, interesting and easy to understand.
The improvements made so far by Topaz Photo AI are evident and I think they deserve attention.
However, I wanted to point out the impressive slowness of the plugin that allows you to bring the image from within Lightroom to Topaz Photo AI, despite my "super Mac", the times are decidedly long!
Good work:-)
Your Topaz update videos are so useful. I would be in the dark regarding changes to the program. I do hope they are paying you for all this work as it's premium knowledge that must help their sales. This is a major upgrade and I agree with you toggling on and off each layer would be very useful and perhaps adding a slider to increase or decrease the effect would be useful. Perhaps hovering over each layer to reveal the mask used would also be helpful. This Topaz Ai is becoming the go-to program before any postprocessing starts. A big thank you for the update. 😀
What I had down to a science I have returned to the beginning with these changes. I appreciate your v ideo. I'm sure it will kick in about a month from now!
Thanks, this is really a major enhazncement
Thanks Dave. Very helpful indeed. It's a bit more flexible than I realized in my first use. :)
Thanks for the info!
Excellent overview of the new feature treatments.
Excellent demonstration Dave 👍
Brilliant. Many thanks
Good video Dave. I would love to a video your workflow using Photo AI and PS on different images especially with these new features.
Very helpful as usual, Photo AI is definitely getting better and it might be worth a mention that Topaz software works perfectly well in Affinity photo 2 as a plug in.
Where is it? It installs automatically in Photoshop under Filters, but I can't find in Affinity Photo2
Outstanding! Thanks.
Photo Ai realliy is getting quite good!
Now, if only, there was a way to distill Dave Kelly down and bottle his knowledge re all things editing - the world would be a perfect place!
I love this new update!
Thanks Dave for this great video. I`ve only just watched it as this didn't seem to get sent to me even though I`m a subscriber with `All` clicked. Never mind probably a glitch. Topaz really are making this a really valuable bit of software with the way they're taking this. Thanks again Dave.
THANK YOU SIR
I wish they’d add the background blur in the sharpen layer.
I am having problems getting the automatic upscaling to work with this new version. Will you be doing any videos on that change? Thanks again for your great educational videos!
Thanks for the tutorial , Dave. A major update indeed! I like it! As a LR classic plugin, I notice that the initial autopilot layers don’t change anything. Must have something to do with the initial mask setting.
I had problems with the removal tool. The body would go but not the head. Can you try it and see if you have any issues?
Wowzaa Topaz is moving on the right direction to my liking (me being a little selfish). great video... thank you.
wow! The new updates are really impressive! I like that we can choose separately the subject from the background. But you missed the Most Important feature here. Topaz main characteristic is the upscaling. And you forgot to demonstrate this important feature. You just showed us the editing part, as if it is another photoshop-similar software. Do you have a tutorial on the other half part (The Upscale of an image)? Anyway, that was a very good tutorial. You have a new subscriber to your channel.👍
Some very good additions...still trying them out but outlook is positive.
I like Topaz AI and I use it as a plugin with Capture One, usually to remove noise on images that need a bit of noise reduction which I can’t be bothered fussing around with sliders in Capture One. For serious noise reduction though DXOPureRaw3 is in a different league than Topaz. If they could improve on that, I’d be very happy because PR3 doesn’t work as a plugin on C1
I like all the features ... not sure the controls are very intuitive but as they are - work great.
Great insight into new update. Would like to see a subject icon to roll over for quick preview of masking. Also would like to see blur background effect or even better a depth of field blur
Thank you Dave!!
It would be great to be able to copy a selection and invert it (like in PS)
I agree!
Nice move, but they lack the finesse of working with Lightroom Classic like DXO. That is, I can enter the program and make any corrections as if I entered directly with the raw photo and return to LRC.
In my opinion, this update is the worst Topaz has delivered for PhotoAI so far. Every time I used the Sharpen function I have to set the mask to "All". Also the sharpening result in the previous version was much better than in 2.4.0. As you can see in the appropirate the forum a huge number of people are very unhappy with this update. I'll go back to version 2.3.1 or 2.3.2
Me too, I re-installed version 2.3.2, the update is crap
The previous version by default only sharpened the subject.
I'm using the original software, now asking for $199 to renew the license for the new version 😮 I'll never renew
@@imaclite Yeah, I got the renew notice today also. have to think about this a bit
True. Terrible update. I have already down graded to 2.3.2
Photo AI subject masking would be improved by offering subject details (e.g., hair, eyes, lips, skin) akin to Lightroom's masking features.
Great idea!
Why didn't they at least offer Face as a masking option? They are already selecting faces in the background for Recover Faces.
Great video as always. One question. When select the 'adjust lighting' I receive a message stating that "Adjust Lighting cannot be used with RAW images". As I missing something?
No that is correct. You can't add lighting adjustments to RAW files.
In you're opinion does this new update do away with the need for adobe lightroom. I only recently got lightroom and wonder "for me" would topaz be enough.
Topaz should indicate where they are heading with Photo Ai if they want people to pay for new subscriptions. If they want to make it a full editing suite say so even if it will be in steps. As many use other editing apps, Photo Ai was fine where it was- even a few versions back. The overlap seems to continue in some regards. But to be fair I am only a hobbyist and don’t do much editing anyway. Photo Ai and LrC is about it. I’m sure I could do more in each and even photoshop but happy with what I’m doing. Thanks for the video Dave.
So interesting update. Seems like some good stuff and some stuff I'd have dome in LR. So this program is growing which can cause issues that I guess some are seeing? I'm sure they'll get worked out so no snark from me. But it seems it's time for a renewal. $199.00 Seems like it was $99 last time? Anyway I'll have to consider this a bit and maybe go back and see if Lightroom Denoise and paying more attention to sharpening in LR will be "good enough" Plus I can still use 2.3 whatever. Now I don't begrudge a software company making money , they need that to continue with product improvements. I'm trying to be more careful with $. ( says the guy waiting anxiously for the new Z6III :)😁 ). Thanks for the vid Dave
Some nice feature updates there! Irked by them toggling Usage Tracking on again though.
I have had this product for a while but have not been able to use it. I cannot get past the white rectangular saying analyzing image, preview updated, original. I cannot see the image for which i opened Topaz.
Thanks Dave. I really do like this interface a lot. But the program still has issues and the biggest for me is that it's slightly cropping my JPG images. I have a photo of rain water runoff and the bottom of the JPG is the splash of the water. When I bring the photo into AI, about 15% of the bottom is getting cropped and the photo is ruined because the splash is cut off.
Seems strange that adjust lighting and colour balance don't work with RAW files, where they'd have the most impact (highlight recovery etc).
This is super cool, thanks Dave. How do I get Topaz AI as a plugin in Photoshop? I only have it as a standalone program
In Photoshop you should find it in Filters/Topaz Labs/ Topaz Photo Ai. Also, for upsizing you will need to go to File/Automate/Topaz Photo Ai. You’ll find these in the top menus in Photoshop. If you are not finding them there then I would reach out to Topaz Support.
HI ,
You have turned auto pilot off in peferences than you added sharpen enhancement why was lens blur auto selected suppose to selected manually?
Lens Blur was chosen as the best choice by Photo Ai
Even after auto pilot was off in setting
Dave I cropped and autopilot didn’t seem to auto suggest an upscale?
You do have to put in the upscale amount you want.
On my WINDOWS MACHINE adjust color and lighting are not available with RAW files.
That is the way Photo Ai works. Those adjustments aren't available for RAW Files.
Ok thanks, I didn't realize this is the case. @@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly
Is the sharpening as good as stand alone sharpen?
I believe it is.
It appears that "Edit In" works now since it doesn't give the warning that it is only working with a jpg and that one should use "Plug In Extras" to get a raw edit. "Edit In" seems to be the only way for AI to pull in the Lightroom Edits. Is it true that "Edit In" works with the full fidelity Raw file? When did that get introduced?
I currently use Photoshop Elements, Gigapixel 5.3, Sharpen AI 3.2.1 and Denoise 2.4.2.
Elements gets worse every new update so I'm desperate to get away from it but other graphic apps on the Mac just don't seem as friendly as Elements.
All I really need added to Photo AI is the ability to markup the image with text and arrows and to be able to add a water mark. Then I'll be able to retire 4 apps.
They should call it Topaz photo 12 different products, 12 different subscriptions.
Dave, Have you updated to Photo Ai 3.0. I'd love to see your take on it in a video. Thanks. Larry
Larry I will be releasing a video about it Monday morning.
I'd also like to be able to rename each of the layers.
Is this Photo Ai look like this coming from Lightroom (won’t be home till tonight)
Your videos are very helpful and I appreciate all your work. I however HATE the new 2.4.0....they have made it into another photo shop software......Very disappointed in the new update.....it used to be user friendly now it is UGLY!
Which application is better to upscale images to higher resolution - TOPAZ Photo AI or Gigapixel AI?
They are basically equal in terms of the results you will get.
Great video thank you. Pity that I now find my Topaz subscription expired in January without notice! 🙄
Steve get in touch with Topaz and let them know.
@@thejoyofeditingwithdavekellyWill do, thanks for replying. 👍
Love the update, can't understand why all the crying 😭
I like to run autopilot on a batch of pictures. Hopefully, I can still do that.
You should still be able to.
@@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly Yes. It is basically the same as before.
an i wish they would increase speed....its awfull, i dont thin i am goint to renew the subscription. There are better tools on the market now. But, good Video as alwys Dave!!
As long as they have a version with so many errors and constant changes, it is not worth buying it because after the time of free updates you will surely have to pay again for an incomplete program. The best example is the other Topaz products that already had a well advanced and stable state.
Suddenly processing takes forever. Before it took seconds. Really annoying when you edit hundred of photos. So I went back to 2.3.2
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There is less and less reason to use any other tools than adobe's lightroom and photoshop. At one time topaz and others were bringing something new to the table, but unless you really hate the subscription model there is little point in these other tools now.
Horrible, just horrible update. After 15 minutes of frustration I uninstalled this version and reverted to version 2.3.2. I, like I bet most users, use this product for 3 reasons and 3 reasons only: remove noise, sharpen, and occasionally upscale. Period. I, like most people, use auto pilot. But I find that in bird photography, the software had a tendency to over sharpen. And, especially with a busy background, the software gets the subject wrong. Before this update, no problem. I could hover over the image to see what the software has selected. If I need to modify it, there was a ready button to click to access the masking tools and brushes. So to modify sharpening before this update I would simply click a few buttons, modify the mask, and adjust the sharpening intensity slider.
With this new update everything is buried within the Add Enhancement section even if I use auto pilot. Tons more clicks to get to what I need and nothing is placed intuitively. Even something as common sense as the placement of the dialog box is crazy. It defaults to covering the image and you have to drag it somewhere else. Yes it’s easy to drag but who wants it superimposed on the image in the first place?
In the prior version, upscaling after cropping was brilliant. I’d crop the image and the software automatically decided if upscaling was helpful and applied auto settings. Not anymore. Now it’s an extra manual step that even displays the resolution incorrectly! (1x of upscaling shows my original pixel size but I’m told by tech support that 1x basically does nothing even after the image has been severely cropped.)
There may be some photographers who want to spend tons of time in a secondary software program tweaking sliders then revering to their primary editing software to edit some more. But those are a small minority. For most of us, we want a product like Topaz to Denoise, sharpen, and if needed upscale. Period. Simply and quickly so we can move on to our editing software.
I feel that Topaz has seriously lost its way. It is trying to become a photo editing program but it is light years behind Photoshop or Capture One or Luminar or the others. Until now, Photo AI has excelled in its simplicity and superb results. But by adding all of this complexity, it has stepped on its own feet. If this continues, I may need to seriously consider changing to DXO.
Dave: I have long appreciated your tutorials on these products. But for once it would be helpful not to gush over every update as an amazing world changer and offer honest, critical feedback.
You have stated this very well. Exactly.
@@tonyblake8841 thanks. I have a very hard time identifying many use cases where I want to denoise different parts of an image differently or to sharpen different parts of an image at different levels. In the rare cases that this would be useful, Topaz could add an option to reapply a change, much like Luminar does. But making the workflow for the vast bulk of situations more difficult in order to accommodate the rare use case is poorly thought out.
The object removal AI disappeared?
No, it is still here. When you choose the Remove enhancement: Change the brush to Object Select and you should be good to go.
Thank you for your prompt response. While it is there, where I tried to use it in tiff file, it collapse. I think Topaz had not taken care of this. The previous version works just fine.
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@@yeungeric6347 Thanks for letting me know.
God, I really love how much AI is advancing. It is making it so much easier for God and Satan to weed out liars, thieves, lazy arses, criminals, job stealers and inhumans from the good people.
Tooooo bug, too artifact,, too problem like strange effect on face recovery, color shifting
I have used Topaz products for years and years and I think I'm done with them.... these updates over the years will end up costing you thousands of dollars... its not like Adobe charging you each month... Topaz just updates and changes constantly and they charge for those updates... so its not any different than Adobe .... done with Topaz... no more money for updates...
Misleading. Renewal for upgrades to Photo AI is at most once a year, currently costs $99 and you don't have to upgrade (or pay that fee) unless you want the new features, as it continues to work anyway (unlike Adobe). That's $8.25 a month, far less than Photoshop. The latest upgrade to 2.4.0 covered by this video is best ignored for most people until Topaz fix the worst of the problems reported in their forum. V. 2.3.2 is still available to download for anyone who did upgrade and doesn't like 2.4.0.
@@1947dave My renew notice today was for $199.
@@tdalton854Get in touch with Topaz and see if they can help you.
@@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly thanks Dave, I should have thought to check out my account on the website and not trusted what I saw in the program. It's $99 there for a year. I'm good with that. And now i can keep watching your topaz vids! - tim
Masks, game changer? 🙄
Layers are the game changer.
They are not layers if you can't rearrange them, turn them on and off and raise and lower their opacity. @@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly
you talk too much. not showing main point.
Is Photo A! 2 same as Photo AI (2.4.0)?
It’s the same product with a new update.
@@thejoyofeditingwithdavekellyThanks Dave. I learn a lot from your videos, especially the TK Fridays!