Pointless Adventures in Literature-Browsing the NYT 100 Best Books Part 1: RGBIB 423

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  • čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
  • We all go on a pointless adventure together! In two pointless parts that could easily be mistaken for one another!
    Grand total: 18 books on the list that I either read, or read enough of to know I didn't like them!

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  • @garyrussell5373
    @garyrussell5373 Před měsícem +2

    I had not read Dennis Johnson books before. I just finished Nobody Move, Fantastic, all great. I wanted more.

  • @jobuckley2999
    @jobuckley2999 Před měsícem +4

    This list is basically a compilation of books that won a prize such as The Booker, The Pulitzer, The Womens Prize, Hugo ect... Occasionally they get one right.

    • @Scottmbradfield
      @Scottmbradfield  Před měsícem +4

      Yeah these lists are always about confirming what "everybody" already decided. Take care in the bathtub! s

  • @martinsFILMS13
    @martinsFILMS13 Před měsícem +1

    Roberto Bolano's 2666 looks intriguing

    • @Scottmbradfield
      @Scottmbradfield  Před měsícem +1

      It comes highly recommended by many of our bathing buddies! s

  • @aLadNamedNathan
    @aLadNamedNathan Před měsícem

    100. Denis Johnson: Tree of Smoke
    99. Ali Smith: How to Be Both
    98. Ann Patchett: Bel Canto
    97. Jesmyn Ward: Men We Reaped
    96. Saidiya Hartman: Wayward Lives Beautiful Experiments
    95. Hilary Mantel: Bring Up the Bodies
    94. Zadie Smith: On Beauty
    93. Emily St. John Mandel: Station Eleven
    92. Elena Ferrante: The Days of Abandonment
    91. Philip Roth: The Human Stain
    90. Viet Thanh Nguyen: The Sympathizer
    89. Hisham Matar: The Return
    88. Lydia Davis: The Collected Stories of Lydia Davis
    87. Torrey Peters: Detransition, Baby
    86. David W. Blight: Frederick Douglass
    85. George Saunders: Pastoralia
    84. Siddhartha Mukherjee: The Emperor of All Maladies
    83. Benjamin Labatut: When We Cease to Understand the World
    82. Fernanda Melchor: Hurricane Season
    81. John Jeremiah Sullivan: Pulphead
    80. Elena Ferrante: The Story of the Lost Child
    79. Lucia Berlin: A Manual for Cleaning Women
    78. Jon Fosse: Septology
    77. Tayari Jones: An American Marriage
    76. Gabrielle Zevin: Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow
    75. Mohsin Hamid: Exit West
    74. Elizabeth Strout: Olive Kitteridge
    73. Robert A. Caro: The Passage of Power
    72. Svetlana Alexievitch: Secondhand Time
    71. Tove Ditlevsen: The Copenhagen Trilogy
    70. Edward P. Jones: All Aunt Hagar’s Children
    69. Michelle Alexander: The New Jim Crow
    68. Sigrid Nunez: The Friend
    67. Andrew Solomon: Far from the Tree
    66. Justin Torres: We the Animals
    65. Philip Roth: The Plot Against America
    64. Rebecca Makkai: The Great Believers
    63. Mary Gaitskill: Veronica
    62. Ben Lerner: 10:04
    61. Barbara Kingsolver: Demon Copperhead
    60. Kiese Laymon: Heavy
    59. Jeffrey Eugenides: Middlesex
    58. Hua Hsu: Stay True
    57. Barbara Ehrenreich: Nickel and Dimed
    56. Rachel Kushner: The Flame Throwers
    55. Lawrence Wright: The Looming Tower
    54. George Saunders: Tenth of December
    53. Alice Munro: Runaway
    52. Denis Johnson: Train Dreams
    51. Kate Atkinson: Life After Life
    50. Hernan Diaz: Trust
    49. Han Kang: The Vegetarian
    48. Marjane Satrapi: Perseopolis
    47. Toni Morrison: A Mercy
    46. Donna Tartt: The Goldfinch
    45. Maggie Nelson: The Argonauts
    44. N. K. Jemisin: The Fifth Season
    43. Tony Judt: Postwar
    42. Marlon James: A Brief History of Seven Killings
    41. Claire Keegan: Small Things Like These
    40. Helen Macdonald: H Is for Hawk
    39. Jennifer Egan: A Visit from the Goon Squad
    38. Roberto Bolano: The Savage Detectives
    37. Annie Ernaux: The Years
    36. Ta-Nehisi Coates: Between the World and Me
    35. Alison Bechdel: Fun Home
    34. Claudia Rankine: Citizen
    33. Jesmyn Ward: Salvage the Bones
    32. Alan Hollinghurst: The Line of Beauty
    31. Zadie Smith: White Teeth
    30. Jesmyn Ward: Sing, Unburied, Sing
    29. Helen DeWitt: The Last Samurai
    28. David Mitchell: Cloud Atlas
    27. Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie: Americanah
    26. Ian McEwan: Atonement
    25. Adrian Nicole LeBlanc: Random Family
    24. Richard Powers: The Overstory
    23. Alice Munro: Hateship, Friendship, Courtship, Loveship, Marriage
    22. Katherine Boo: Behind the Beautiful Forevers
    21. Matthew Desmond: Evicted
    20. Percival Everett: Erasure
    19. Patrick Radden Keefe: Say Nothing
    18. George Saunders: Lincoln in the Bardo
    17. Paul Beatty: The Sellout
    16. Michael Chabon: The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay
    15. Min Jin Lee: Pachinko
    14. Rachael Cusk: Outline
    13. Cormac McCarthy: The Road
    12. Joan Didion: The Year of Magical Thinking
    11. Junot Diaz: The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao
    10. Marilynne Robinson: Gilead
    9. Kazuo Ishiguro: Never Let Me Go
    8. W. G. Sebald: Austerlitz
    7. Colson Whitehead: The Underground Railroad
    6. Roberto Bolano: 2666
    5. Jonathan Franzen: The Corrections
    4. Edward P. Jones: The Known World
    3. Hilary Mantel: Wolf Hall
    2. Isabel Wilkerson: The Warmth of Other Suns
    1. Elena Ferrante: My Brilliant Friend

  • @ibrahimrahman4073
    @ibrahimrahman4073 Před měsícem +3

    The Hilary Mantel you mentioned is Beyond Black. I recently read it. I’ve been skirting around the Cromwell books for some time, reading Mantels earlier work instead. I’ve enjoyed everything I’ve read so far.

    • @Scottmbradfield
      @Scottmbradfield  Před měsícem

      Yeah that was it, I want to read more Mantel too... Unusual and beautiful prose style... s

    • @Michael-ln8kh
      @Michael-ln8kh Před měsícem

      @@Scottmbradfield Would like to see your review of Wolf Hall

  • @jackwalter5970
    @jackwalter5970 Před měsícem +2

    Basically, an irrelevant list. They also put together a readers' list, which is beyond depressing.

    • @Scottmbradfield
      @Scottmbradfield  Před měsícem +1

      Yeah lists are pretty stupid anyway, but maybe they get people excited about talking about their own favorite books. Stay safe in the tub, Jack! s

  • @donaldkelly3983
    @donaldkelly3983 Před měsícem +1

    As a member of the Denis Johnson cult, I was irate to see him at one hundred!
    Shorter length Johnson is a much better experience, Train Dreams being a good example and my favorite, Fiskadoro.
    When We Cease to Understand the World blends fact with fiction about many European physicists, showing how looney they were.
    Heisenberg had repeated religious breakdowns, Dostoevsky level stuff. And the less said about Schrodinger the better.
    The Lyndon Johnson bios by Robert Caro are great! Four volumes showing how a man who changed America so positively was, as a person, corrupt and repellent.
    Enjoyed Plot Against America also.

  • @markhnk
    @markhnk Před měsícem +1

    Just needed something pointless. Thank you!

    • @Scottmbradfield
      @Scottmbradfield  Před měsícem +1

      We can't make many promises here at the bathtub, but if you're looking for "pointless" rambling about books, we've got you covered!

  • @hermanblinkhoven1856
    @hermanblinkhoven1856 Před měsícem +1

    The Mantel novel you mention is called Beyond Black, and it is, imho, much better than any of the Wolf Hall trilogy. Sorry

    • @Scottmbradfield
      @Scottmbradfield  Před měsícem

      That's it! I never read WOLF HALL but will try it eventually. Thanks for dropping by the tub! s

  • @emersonviudez2284
    @emersonviudez2284 Před měsícem +2

    The Poisonwood Bible by Kingsolver. 😅 You are right. The writing was just so pretentious. And palindromes?! 😂

    • @Scottmbradfield
      @Scottmbradfield  Před měsícem +1

      That was it! What crap. The white men were all evil and the women and Africans were all really good and connected with nature. Prose was dense and unreadable, I never got her at all.

  • @samferguson9171
    @samferguson9171 Před měsícem +2

    Dear Master Bather, I say this as a compliment, not as a condemnation, but you seem to be very out of tune with the post-2010 “literary” zeitgeist. Ignorance (or, in this case, mere indifference) really does seem like bliss!

    • @Scottmbradfield
      @Scottmbradfield  Před měsícem

      @@samferguson9171 thanks for dropping by the bathtub, Sam. Yeah I try to stay out of the way of any Zeitgeists, which is probably why I spend so much time in the tub! S

  • @GypsyRoSesx
    @GypsyRoSesx Před měsícem

    Dodo is so cute 😂

  • @tectorgorch8698
    @tectorgorch8698 Před měsícem +1

    As for good old Denis Johnson, I'd say that Angels is his best novel and Largesse of the Sea Maiden is a perfect collection. Loved the Elvis conspiracy story. And loved the Ukiah and Santa Rosa stories. Wow. I spent an awful month in Ukiah one night. I think that's an old Jonathan Winters line or something.

    • @bluewordsme2
      @bluewordsme2 Před měsícem

      absolutely....angels is brilliant...and Largesse is as good as american story short story gets....the fact that Largesse isnt on the list shows how idiotic the list is...

    • @Scottmbradfield
      @Scottmbradfield  Před měsícem +1

      Yeah I like all those, but NOBODY SHOOT still my favorite... His book set in northern Cal is really good too, ALREADY DEAD?

  • @emilypearson5484
    @emilypearson5484 Před měsícem +2

    No one cares about my opinion, but Hilary Mantel should be far higher up this list for the Cromwell Trilogy. My feelings about Saunders are unmixed so far, and I loved the Tenth of December collection. You’re the second reliable source I’ve seem dismiss Kingsolver. Just the concept of Demon Copperhead was enough to deter me.

    • @Scottmbradfield
      @Scottmbradfield  Před měsícem +1

      @@emilypearson5484 we, your bathing buddies, care about your opinion! I plan to try Wolf Hall soon… as for Saunders, I have enjoyed a couple long stories of his and can’t get into others…he often reminds me of Tom Disch’s stories which I mostly love…

    • @bluewordsme2
      @bluewordsme2 Před měsícem +1

      demon copperhead is waaaaaay over rated...agree about the cromwell trilogy..loved all three ...all brilliantly written and imagined...waaaaaay better on all levels than the 3 books by the italian mystery writer who is #1...a roman writing about naples...go figure...hahah

  • @GypsyRoSesx
    @GypsyRoSesx Před měsícem +1

    8:35 😂😂 but why not? 🤭

    • @Scottmbradfield
      @Scottmbradfield  Před měsícem +1

      "Why not?" is our entire philosophy in the bathtub, Gypsy! And yes, Dodo is cute when she'd not being an almighty pain in the butt! A

  • @adamalegria3947
    @adamalegria3947 Před měsícem +3

    I’d love to hear your mixed feelings on Saunders. I also have mixed feelings about him.

    • @Scottmbradfield
      @Scottmbradfield  Před měsícem +1

      @@adamalegria3947 welcome to the bathtub, Adam! My mixed feelings aren’t very articulate. I really enjoyed two long stories of his, the PHIL one and Pastoralia, and couldn’t get interested in most other stuff I read of his…that’s it!

    • @excelsiorathletic
      @excelsiorathletic Před měsícem

      Manual for cleaning women by Berlin is excellent. I like Mantel but Wolf Hall was tedious.

    • @excelsiorathletic
      @excelsiorathletic Před měsícem

      Also, Roth and Saunders get two books on the list so far: is groupthink a thing for book reviewers?

    • @absurdistoxymoron
      @absurdistoxymoron Před měsícem +1

      I love Pastoralia and Tenth of December (which are both excellent collections). In Persuasion Nation has some excellent and hilarious stories as well ("Jon" and "The Red Bow" come to mind immediately), but I'm not a fan of his earlier or latest work. Most of them seem very emotionally manipulative and repetitive with their ideas/forms. The emotional climaxes rarely feel organic or earned (or even truly transformative).
      I'd be curious to hear your reasons for your mixed reception of him.

    • @Scottmbradfield
      @Scottmbradfield  Před měsícem

      @@absurdistoxymoron Yeah I'll try him again... as I mentioned to someone else, he always reminds me of Thomas Disch stories that were always a bit wickeder and funnier... but I did like two of his long stories a lot. s

  • @haroldniver
    @haroldniver Před měsícem +4

    Most of this list is garbage but Benjamin Labatut’s books are amazing. Super- compelling and extremely well-written.

    • @Scottmbradfield
      @Scottmbradfield  Před měsícem +1

      @@haroldniver cool. Thanks for your suggestion!

    • @garyrussell5373
      @garyrussell5373 Před měsícem +1

      I read part of the book on the list, very compelling, right up my alley. The problem is he says his stories are based on historical facts. But the more you read you start to question what is fact and what is fiction. It would be better if his writing was just call historical fiction.

    • @haroldniver
      @haroldniver Před měsícem

      @@garyrussell5373 yeah, parts are based on actual events, but it veers into fiction as well. I actually like that about it, that it kind of straddles the line between fact and fiction, and jumps back and forth. It makes for very compelling storytelling.

  • @ReadingIDEAS.-uz9xk
    @ReadingIDEAS.-uz9xk Před měsícem

    A bird in the hand is worth.......

  • @jeanpaulcsuka
    @jeanpaulcsuka Před měsícem +2

    If it means anything, big fan of the Lucia Berlin stories, definitely not phony.

  • @absurdistoxymoron
    @absurdistoxymoron Před měsícem

    Agree with you completely about Lydia Davis. I read one of her collections (Samuel Johnson is Indignant) and found it to be underwhelming (to say the least). There were about two I found interesting, but I just don't understand her angle/appeal; she's a flash fiction writer who sacrifices almost everything but language yet fails to construct effortlessly playful/interesting/memorable sentences or passages. I guess if people enjoy the literary equivalent of being condescended by a bunch of stuffy New York intellectuals who have forgotten how to genuinely laugh, it's the perfect book for them.

  • @kevinhelfenbein5893
    @kevinhelfenbein5893 Před měsícem

    Does the 21st century belong in the bathtub? I have serious doubts. Can any of these stand up to Clark Ashton Smith? Brian Moore??

  • @bluewordsme2
    @bluewordsme2 Před měsícem +1

    hey sb, well, i finally got around to watching (just returned from our anniversary dinner)...so, as you mentioned, no serious writer or reader every takes this kind of bullshit list at all serious...and the list is not only idiotic but is just, as you pointed out, just a publishing gimmic to sell books and to sell books that already are selling well...some of the best and most important writers and books are left off....of course, no pynchon, no poetry, no enard, no etc....anyway, i want even go that much farther...there are great books and writers on the list, of course, but it is totally pointless and meaningless....btw, Berlin's short story collection is brilliant and she was totally unknown and this collection is posthumous...very special writer, ignore the pompous description...2ne hand time is towering, READ IT...really...all her books, nobel winner, but 2nd hand time is sui generis....stay true is my fave non-fiction of last year (pulitzer) and he is a california boy, read it....anyway, i wont go further...ive read more than half of the books and most of the fiction and, well, ho hum...but, im only writing cause, as. buddy, im here to share; here is the full list without numbering where they ranked....okt.....www.goodreads.com/list/show/203571.NYT_The_100_Best_Books_of_the_21st_Century

    • @Scottmbradfield
      @Scottmbradfield  Před měsícem +1

      OK you got me on keeping up with what's happening lately, lots of stuff I'll try to remember but I just keep going back to old books and writers... the no-poetry in the list is pretty weird, is there any disclaimer in the list's description? (i.e. Who reads poetry?!)

    • @excelsiorathletic
      @excelsiorathletic Před měsícem +1

      @@Scottmbradfield Are you saying we are all in the bath bubble?....I'll see myself out.

    • @Scottmbradfield
      @Scottmbradfield  Před měsícem +1

      @@excelsiorathletic Just don't slip on the wet tiles! s

  • @bluewordsme2
    @bluewordsme2 Před měsícem +6

    OMG....i havent listened yet, but cant wait...their list is AWFUL...i mean really, Franzen top 10 BEST...NO POETRY...and almost no books from other parts of the world...no genre books, it is the WORST list i've seen....DODO COULD COME UP WITH A BETTER LIST and one more repsentative of the great books being written in this century from around the world....and My Brilliant Friend (i read) THE BEST NOVEL OF THE 21st century.....my big bath-clean butt it is....hahahah anyway, more after i watch your vid SB

    • @Scottmbradfield
      @Scottmbradfield  Před měsícem +1

      You're right, no poetry at all? That is weird/stupid.