I ran a 860 for a neighbor on wheat harvest...Good machine, never any issues but, of course he took really good care of them....I am a JD guy but, I really liked the Massey..
Brings back memories. My Dad, Mom, and brothers went on the harvest back in 1973 to 1978. We had a MF 760 and a 510 to start. The 510 got traded in for a 750. I drove both the 510 and 750. Great experience for a teenager!
This is the kind of stuff that gets in the blood. You go, go, go, and don't know what the hell to do when its all over. A nice video. From a farmer in Saskatchewan.
Hey my American neighbours! Nice video. I'm from west-central Saskatchewan and a fair amount of our neighbours ran 700 and 800 series when I was a little kid in the 80's and 90's. Massey tractor were commmon now. I can now think of only two guys with old Massey tractors and old Massey combines. They're related, and both farm 400 acres or less. Everyone else here is green, yellow, or the other kind of red. Don't even know anyone with new Massey anything.
love the sounds of the perkins engine! brings back a lot of good memories...we had a 750 with the white roof and yellow wheels....mid 70s vintage, I'm guessing
in 1979-1985 we had a couple of 750's. One was a 1976 and the other a 78. I found that they'd do okay if you didn't crowd them. If you pushed them too hard, they'd break something. MF is pretty much gone from sw Kansas. It's very rare to see a machine and the dealers are long since out of business or selling something else, so finding parts would be a nightmare. Still, this brings back a lot of memories. Nice vid.
The 750's were a great machine... With the odd weakness... one being the shaker shoe shaft on the 750's would break at the bearing where the crank attached on, and it was a bugger to get out to replace with a new one... First you have to clean out the combine(you get a half ton truck load of $H#T and chaff, then all sieves have to come out etc... by the time you're through, the air is blue with words I'd rather not say on here....lol
@AJ67901 Here in Southen Alberta Canada, parts are still quite available, but also quite expensive...I still run Masseys... An 860 massey is a pretty good sized machine and here I can gettem for about $15000.00 to $20000.00 and have a good machine that'll work.... Hell of a lot better than 2 or $300000.00 to do the same job!!!
@@joescheller6680 Not only best best fuel economy also chepeast to repair. Fuel pump for 6 cylinder 6.354 cost about 800 Euros here. For Class havester of that time (Dominator) with mercedes engine and inline injection pump it would cost at least 3000 Euro. Also Perkins engines were very reliable and easy to maintane.
@@SilverGleaner not at the time N6 and N7 werent even in production they ha the L2 and M G series att that time. i ran an L2 it had a lott of electrical issues
@@joescheller6680 The 860 came out in 1980 or 81. The N6 was out in 1978 and the N5 and N7 followed in 1979. My L2 only had electrical issues if I let the mice get to it..... like another combine out there, the mice will eat the wires given a chance.
@@SilverGleaner 760 predesser to 860 same combine they were the largest on the market 60in cylinder straight through from throat of feede house to the straw chopper. the L2 bogged down on cornering wheb picking up latge windrows would plug feeder house nery easily. the electrical issues were from new nver seen a mouse.. i spent several seasons on it and a 760 in custom operation from texas to canada. i grew up on a combine know them inside out.'
@@joescheller6680 I'm speaking to your direct statement that the 860 was the largest machine on the market. It was not even close. The L2 weak spot for capacity is the feeder beater but I virtually eliminated plugging when I installed 8 springs in the slip clutch instead of the normal 4. There are 8 holes for 8 springs..... but the L2 is a class under in size from the 760 or 860 so it's like comparing apples to oranges or a 150 hp tractor to a 175 hp tractor. Like I said though, I never had any electrical issues unless a mouse chewed a wire and my L2 is now 40 years old. Not bad for a 40 year old combine in my book.
How about a Massey Super 92, 16 foot header. That was as big as was available. That combine is still garaged, hasn’t cut anything since CRP. Bet it would run after new belts!
wow what a site, saw the right up in the classic tractor mag on you guys i think, great effort.....hmm ya looking for drivers in coming years, or ya done it, now hanging up the boots?
the john deere is a late 4630, it has air cleaner in back of muffler,the earlier models had them in front but early 4630 tractors had heating problems,so deere put a larger radiator in the later 4630,they no longer had room up front for air cleaner so deere put air cleaner behind the muffler.the grain cart was made by united farm tools for deere,they were not a very good machine,the best thing to do with them is get rid of the auggers and use it like a wagon with a center dump.either that just sell them for scrap.
En Sudamérica, hay un modelo de Massey Ferguson, que me parece es copia de estos modelo, es la MF 5650 turbo y 5650 Advanced. En Argentina hay muchísimas de estas máquina....
Im not sure about America but in the Uk the Massey 750 had Perkins 6.354 diesel. Im not sure about the 760 but the 860 and 865 had Perkins V8 diesels. My my school mate's dad ran them in the the 80s and 90s.
I bet anything built now won't be running that good in 40 years. I have a MF dealer 2 miles from me(US) and they are selling 15-20 New Massey Combines a year, taking IH, Deeres & NH in on trade.
And I'd like to point out I never seen an old Massey with a straight-cut header until now, only pick-up headers. Still not uncommon for guys up to 2000 acres swathing everything and don't own a straight-cut header, even on quite new combines! We still don't have one and we run a 9600 JD!
@TheFarmerfitz MF has always had a big presence in Canada. As I recall the Canadian Govt. bailed them out in the early 80's and forced them to develop the 850. I see a few MF tractors here, but they are now under the AGCO umbrella if I'm not mistaken?
Settle your arguement this way boys, cab on a 4430 sets more to the rear and the cab on a 4630 is set foward{rear cab mounts set on axle where 4430 mounts set behind rear axle}. Once you compare the 2 youll see what i mean. {And yes it looks like 46 to me.
the company that bought massey fergusen out was the cause of the fall they wanted tp drop combine when they were at the top. white later bought out by massey was the first and largest rotor combine on market but combine was poorly put together had lot of bearing trouble do to underdeveloping
@@joescheller6680 we had some of mfr first rotors couldnt keep them running electrical problems dealer finally had to take them bacck that was the end of mf combines in our area those 1100 100 200 series tractor s were the best still have bunch good as new but no payments
@@charlietanner6211 exactly the company that bought out massey wasnt interested in building or improving their line they wanted to terminate combine line they were a copy of the white combine first rotor they had white was very weak in bearing department and massey didnt seek to improve on their aquisition
Great video. No crappy music. Just the soothing sound of machines. Sure liked the night time shot.
I ran a 860 for a neighbor on wheat harvest...Good machine, never any issues but, of course he took really good care of them....I am a JD guy but, I really liked the Massey..
Yes I most certainly did.
Brings back memories. My Dad, Mom, and brothers went on the harvest back in 1973 to 1978. We had a MF 760 and a 510 to start. The 510 got traded in for a 750. I drove both the 510 and 750. Great experience for a teenager!
I always loved the MF750 and 760 combines. Thanks for showing a very good wheat harvest video. Brian from Canada.
love the black smoke.old dale starks would be proud to see these old dolls in action again
This is the kind of stuff that gets in the blood. You go, go, go, and don't know what the hell to do when its all over. A nice video. From a farmer in Saskatchewan.
I agree. except you go to Australia for the Canadian winter to do it all again ;)
gasoline cowboy yup....We have cows on our farm, so it's never over....lol
What a relief. Thought I was the only guy left driving one.(850 in Ontario)
The is an awesome video. I love the Massey Ferguson tractors, my family always had them. The background lightning is beautiful.
So soothing and satisfying watching these ol girls getting it done
Hey my American neighbours! Nice video. I'm from west-central Saskatchewan and a fair amount of our neighbours ran 700 and 800 series when I was a little kid in the 80's and 90's. Massey tractor were commmon now. I can now think of only two guys with old Massey tractors and old Massey combines. They're related, and both farm 400 acres or less. Everyone else here is green, yellow, or the other kind of red. Don't even know anyone with new Massey anything.
i run a 850 massey, good to see those masseys running🙂
I have 1000 acers, I have 2 860 massey's....They still getter done just as good as any new $300,000.00 one...
What a fantastic video , great to watch, thanks for sharing it 👍
love the sounds of the perkins engine! brings back a lot of good memories...we had a 750 with the white roof and yellow wheels....mid 70s vintage, I'm guessing
Awesome Video MASSEY ALL THE WAY!!!!
There are so many things right in that video.
Yep I was always impressed with that conventional design for the times.
The old Perkins blowing smoke.... Work in!
in 1979-1985 we had a couple of 750's. One was a 1976 and the other a 78. I found that they'd do okay if you didn't crowd them. If you pushed them too hard, they'd break something. MF is pretty much gone from sw Kansas. It's very rare to see a machine and the dealers are long since out of business or selling something else, so finding parts would be a nightmare. Still, this brings back a lot of memories. Nice vid.
Garden City had a good dealer back in the day did business there back in the70s
I learned to combine on the 760 when I was 10 years old.
In which state was it? Kansas? Nebraska?
Great video, the overnight storms in the background and also the train, just great! Harvest time!
I love this video
Massey ferguson corporation show 😃😃👍👍
The 750's were a great machine... With the odd weakness... one being the shaker shoe shaft on the 750's would break at the bearing where the crank attached on, and it was a bugger to get out to replace with a new one... First you have to clean out the combine(you get a half ton truck load of $H#T and chaff, then all sieves have to come out etc... by the time you're through, the air is blue with words I'd rather not say on here....lol
I had the same problem with the 850
@AJ67901 Here in Southen Alberta Canada, parts are still quite available, but also quite expensive...I still run Masseys... An 860 massey is a pretty good sized machine and here I can gettem for about $15000.00 to $20000.00 and have a good machine that'll work.... Hell of a lot better than 2 or $300000.00 to do the same job!!!
Boy - that brings back memories...Some not too Good!!!
listen to that perkins !!
perkins 6 and 8 cylinder in them machines were unbeatable for fuel economy
@@joescheller6680
Not only best best fuel economy also chepeast to repair. Fuel pump for 6 cylinder 6.354 cost about 800 Euros here. For Class havester of that time (Dominator) with mercedes engine and inline injection pump it would cost at least 3000 Euro. Also Perkins engines were very reliable and easy to maintane.
the best machine on the market till a bunch of side walk investors dropped the production 860 was the largest machine on the market
The Gleaner N6 and N7 were both a bit larger in capacity..... quite a bit larger.
@@SilverGleaner not at the time N6 and N7 werent even in production they ha the L2 and M G series att that time. i ran an L2 it had a lott of electrical issues
@@joescheller6680 The 860 came out in 1980 or 81. The N6 was out in 1978 and the N5 and N7 followed in 1979. My L2 only had electrical issues if I let the mice get to it..... like another combine out there, the mice will eat the wires given a chance.
@@SilverGleaner 760 predesser to 860 same combine they were the largest on the market 60in cylinder straight through from throat of feede house to the straw chopper. the L2 bogged down on cornering wheb picking up latge windrows would plug feeder house nery easily. the electrical issues were from new nver seen a mouse.. i spent several seasons on it and a 760 in custom operation from texas to canada. i grew up on a combine know them inside out.'
@@joescheller6680 I'm speaking to your direct statement that the 860 was the largest machine on the market. It was not even close. The L2 weak spot for capacity is the feeder beater but I virtually eliminated plugging when I installed 8 springs in the slip clutch instead of the normal 4. There are 8 holes for 8 springs..... but the L2 is a class under in size from the 760 or 860 so it's like comparing apples to oranges or a 150 hp tractor to a 175 hp tractor. Like I said though, I never had any electrical issues unless a mouse chewed a wire and my L2 is now 40 years old. Not bad for a 40 year old combine in my book.
I learned how to run a combine on an old 750 belt drive with a 24ft header.
How about a Massey Super 92, 16 foot header. That was as big as was available. That combine is still garaged, hasn’t cut anything since CRP. Bet it would run after new belts!
wow what a site, saw the right up in the classic tractor mag on you guys i think, great effort.....hmm ya looking for drivers in coming years, or ya done it, now hanging up the boots?
i love it....
I have put a hour or 2 in one of those
The engines for them were perkins built in Peterborough in the u.k
the john deere is a late 4630, it has air cleaner in back of muffler,the earlier models had them in front but early 4630 tractors had heating problems,so deere put a larger radiator in the later 4630,they no longer had room up front for air cleaner so deere put air cleaner behind the muffler.the grain cart was made by united farm tools for deere,they were not a very good machine,the best thing to do with them is get rid of the auggers and use it like a wagon with a center dump.either that just sell them for scrap.
Big TRAIN!
I would like to try a straght cut header some day...we only have pick up headers....
En Sudamérica, hay un modelo de Massey Ferguson, que me parece es copia de estos modelo, es la MF 5650 turbo y 5650 Advanced. En Argentina hay muchísimas de estas máquina....
It is a 4630 on the grain cart. 4430's didn't have intercoolers.
Do those Massey's have the Perkins V-8's in them? My dad had two of them!
Im not sure about America but in the Uk the Massey 750 had Perkins 6.354 diesel. Im not sure about the 760 but the 860 and 865 had Perkins V8 diesels. My my school mate's dad ran them in the the 80s and 90s.
I bet anything built now won't be running that good in 40 years. I have a MF dealer 2 miles from me(US) and they are selling 15-20 New Massey Combines a year, taking IH, Deeres & NH in on trade.
And I'd like to point out I never seen an old Massey with a straight-cut header until now, only pick-up headers. Still not uncommon for guys up to 2000 acres swathing everything and don't own a straight-cut header, even on quite new combines! We still don't have one and we run a 9600 JD!
@TheFarmerfitz MF has always had a big presence in Canada. As I recall the Canadian Govt. bailed them out in the early 80's and forced them to develop the 850. I see a few MF tractors here, but they are now under the AGCO umbrella if I'm not mistaken?
You are correct
Another clue is that I have yet to see a 4430 with the exhaust in front of the air intake.
It's a 4630, it's intercooled.
@AJ67901 yup... A lot of John Deere nowdays though!!!
at that time john deere had nothing to compare only the 7700 john deere later got into the combine improvementt business as massey dropped their line
Settle your arguement this way boys, cab on a 4430 sets more to the rear and the cab on a 4630 is set foward{rear cab mounts set on axle where 4430 mounts set behind rear axle}. Once you compare the 2 youll see what i mean. {And yes it looks like 46 to me.
No disrespect, but, that flag pole pulley could use some oil!!!
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it is sad that mf lost there way they used to be top line
the company that bought massey fergusen out was the cause of the fall they wanted tp drop combine when they were at the top. white later bought out by massey was the first and largest rotor combine on market but combine was poorly put together had lot of bearing trouble do to underdeveloping
@@joescheller6680 we had some of mfr first rotors couldnt keep them running electrical problems dealer finally had to take them bacck that was the end of mf combines in our area those 1100 100 200 series tractor s were the best still have bunch good as new but no payments
@@charlietanner6211 exactly the company that bought out massey wasnt interested in building or improving their line they wanted to terminate combine line they were a copy of the white combine first rotor they had white was very weak in bearing department and massey didnt seek to improve on their aquisition
@AJ67901 yup... A lot of John Deere nowdays though!!!