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  • čas přidán 18. 08. 2024

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  • @kaptainkirk12
    @kaptainkirk12 Před 3 lety +20

    Not only you are amazing at teaching blacksmith skills, but you also seems to be a very humble and pleasant guy. I have much respect to you and your works, you greatly inspired me with overall blacksmithing and if i started blacksmith recently is all because of you, and i eternally am thankfull for what you teach to all of us here

  • @deemedappropriate4790
    @deemedappropriate4790 Před 5 lety +11

    This is the most informative video on forging a fire steel.

  • @gregfarley5737
    @gregfarley5737 Před 5 lety +5

    I love your sense of humor.

  • @Incandescentiron
    @Incandescentiron Před rokem +1

    Exactly what I was looking for!

  • @eqlzr2
    @eqlzr2 Před 4 lety +1

    Holy crap. That's a nice bit of work there, but frankly, I put an old file in a vice, hit it with a hammer and broke it in 3 different pieces, and ground file edges off on a bench grinder, leaving me with 3 firesteels and maybe a total of 3 minutes work. They spark just fine.

  • @dcsensui
    @dcsensui Před rokem

    Interesting that you make the face smooth. When I was in the Boy Scouts some used a file for flint-and-steel fire starting and I thought it had to be a rough surface. Now I know better!

  • @walterguan5036
    @walterguan5036 Před 4 lety +2

    Some sparks flew out the screen and caught me on fire to make some fire steels myself, excellent work!

  • @karnovtalonhawk9708
    @karnovtalonhawk9708 Před měsícem +1

    G'day and nice one. I am thinking of making more and more my own takes on old ideas. I have made swords and armour but not looked into the basics of life back then.
    I am having ideas of a cloak/blanket pin that also has a decorative stricker. some knotwork and a celtic dragon maybe.

  • @haditwithwork
    @haditwithwork Před rokem +1

    Educational. Thank you!

  • @rickw.3436
    @rickw.3436 Před 5 lety +1

    i dont know if it's a like minded thing, or it's a the sorts of people who are drawn to smithing, often share similar outlooks or interests, but i keep finding videos you have made about making things i want to make, and i can't believe what a resource you have made here, and you do it in a way that looks achievable, so again, thanks, really appreciate it.

  • @deliaguzman1138
    @deliaguzman1138 Před rokem +1

    I always have so much fun starting a fire with a striker I forged, char cloth I made from some old blue jeans, and some beautiful chert from my parents’ yard in my home state of Texas.

  • @ghostforge3303
    @ghostforge3303 Před 5 lety +7

    Pun intended..... Thank you for sparking my need to make fire..... Thank you for all your dedication to your channel and it's ever-growing audience of Blacksmiths and their admirers. Happy holidays

  • @twoowls4469
    @twoowls4469 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I loved this video. When the upset went to wrong side, I said... that's gonna be backwards. Then when you caught it had to laugh! Great video, great content, great channel. Thanks for all you share!

  • @grandadz_forge
    @grandadz_forge Před 5 lety +8

    That was some valuble information you imparted on the hardening side of things. I love this stuff!

  • @ericjason5773
    @ericjason5773 Před 5 lety +2

    Merry Christmas.
    Flint is the gemstone of Ohio.

  • @steelpennyforge5152
    @steelpennyforge5152 Před 5 lety +3

    Great demo (including the how to use it). Thanks!!!

  • @swatcopk9
    @swatcopk9 Před 5 lety +5

    Happy Yuletide to you and your family! Great video yet again. The wife and I got a laugh out of the backwards upset issue. When you were doing it, I grumbled to the wife that you said you wanted the striking surface flat, but maybe I misunderstood. When you commented that someone should have warned you we both lost it. We love watching your videos. They get better every day!

  • @pauledmonds7316
    @pauledmonds7316 Před 4 lety +2

    Thoroughly enjoyed watching.
    Thank you.

  • @terrystewart2034
    @terrystewart2034 Před 5 lety +5

    Great tutorial! Your teaching style is perfect for me.

  • @tonis8093
    @tonis8093 Před 2 lety +2

    I googled and tried to learn about what exactly is a firesteel and how it is used. This video answered all my questions and was really enjoyable to watch. Thank you for such an amazing video.

  • @waveman0
    @waveman0 Před 4 lety +3

    I have watched this video many times and thoroughly enjoyed everything about it John.
    I have just commissioned you to making me a R type striker, can't wait to getting it in hand and seeing how it strikes, I love supporting forges who are keeping these traditions alive.

    • @waveman0
      @waveman0 Před 3 lety

      my striker arrived and it works a treat, thank you John.

  • @MLFranklin
    @MLFranklin Před 7 měsíci +2

    14:06 Heat Treating Logic.

  • @garethbaus5471
    @garethbaus5471 Před 4 lety +1

    The best striker by spark production I have used was a bar of 1095 the mass seems to help getting larger shavings.

  • @Harleyjon1
    @Harleyjon1 Před 2 lety

    13:37 Where there's a Will, there's a Guy named Bill ! LOL

  • @samfoot2743
    @samfoot2743 Před 3 lety +1

    Very informative and influential.
    I will be attempting to forge one this week for our next camping trip.
    Thanks from the u.k 👍

  • @ChristCenteredIronworks
    @ChristCenteredIronworks Před 5 lety +10

    Merry Christmas John to you and your family from ours may you have a blessed holiday season!

  • @HisWayHomestead
    @HisWayHomestead Před rokem +1

    very good information about making the best steel for performance! Thanks John!!!

  • @rowenmaxwell2965
    @rowenmaxwell2965 Před 3 lety +1

    1.6k likes and only 4 dislikes..that’s impressive, well done man

  • @demastust.2277
    @demastust.2277 Před 4 lety +1

    Quartz and chert also works pretty well in place of flint. In Indiana, we have lovely chert. Any stone that is sharp or jagged enough and has a mohs scale of 7 or more will work. Quartz, flint, amethyst and chert have a few things in common, but in this case the mohs scale is 7. The act of striking the steel against the stone you grating a piece of the steel off of the striker to become super heated. The rock is harder than the steel. Think of it like a grinder grinding metal and throwing sparks.

  • @larryking606
    @larryking606 Před 4 lety +1

    Good Evening , John
    This Video was a Blessing in disguise , it has been way to long ago that I had made a Stricker !
    This has more than a renewed understanding of what I had remembered ! PLUS A LOT MORE ! Thank you very much for adding to my knowledge !
    Take Care and Be Safe !

  • @ahorseman4ever1
    @ahorseman4ever1 Před 3 lety +1

    As a horse shoes I have a ton of old rasps. They work very good for me.

  • @20mcarroll02
    @20mcarroll02 Před 5 lety

    A fire steel was one of the first things i learned to make. That was way back in my boy scout days.

  • @jameshuggins4300
    @jameshuggins4300 Před 5 lety +1

    Merry christmas John I love your teaching style. You would make a great neighbor, friend and mentor. Thanks.

  • @getoverit4887
    @getoverit4887 Před 5 lety +8

    Great video and very useful tool I was already thinking of making one of these. Merry Christmas Mr. John.

  • @indianatone218
    @indianatone218 Před 3 lety +1

    thanks for showing us this fine tool cant wait to have ago . Ant UK

  • @firesafe8417
    @firesafe8417 Před 5 lety +3

    Merry Christmas to you and your family Mr. John, my you and your family have a prosperous New Year.

  • @JustinTopp
    @JustinTopp Před 4 lety

    I’m in North Dakota and my step dad grew up on a sugar beet farm in Minnesota just over the ND MN border and I must have a thousand beet chains haha. Guess I know my next project. A flint striker! I will probably laminate some high carbon steel onto a wrought iron body. Just discovered some wrought iron horse shoes so I’m doing lots of wrought iron and steel things

  • @donaldnaymon3270
    @donaldnaymon3270 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video. Nice work. Thank you for sharing.

  • @donaldduda697
    @donaldduda697 Před 5 lety +1

    Awesome video! gonna fire up the forge soon and make a bunch of kits for the boy scout troop

  • @ColfaxPoint
    @ColfaxPoint Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you so much for making these videos. I have been trying to learn blacksmithing skills for a while now and this is realy good to follow.
    I can't thank you enough.

  • @hannemannironworks1651
    @hannemannironworks1651 Před 5 lety +1

    Looks great John! Merry Christmas!

  • @Dominic.Minischetti
    @Dominic.Minischetti Před 4 lety +1

    I love this video! I have watched this at least 5 times! I think it’s the perfect size and shape! Thanks for sharing John!

  • @brettsayers7768
    @brettsayers7768 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks John a great video, really enjoyed watching it.

  • @Zogg1281
    @Zogg1281 Před 5 lety +1

    That's another one for the list of things to make 😊
    Merry Christmas

  • @shanelatondress9259
    @shanelatondress9259 Před 5 lety +1

    Merry Christmas John! The countdown to Christmas videos were great. Thank you so much for making them.

  • @JohnSmith-gs4lw
    @JohnSmith-gs4lw Před 5 lety +2

    I’m jealous you have the ability to crank those out. Been looking at them for months on amazon but there isn’t a lot to choose from. I tried to make my own by busting off a chunk of a new Nicholson bastard file but as you’ve said before, the new Nicholson is not the old Nicholson. In fact, I’m convinced it’s some kind of stainless steel or heavily alloyed. Barely works as a file, and doesn’t work at all as a flint and steel striker. Going to have to scrounge up an old file somewhere.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  Před 5 lety

      My guess is that there are lots of steels for sale on Etsy. I suspect both of these will end up for sale sooner or later.

  • @TMichaelJKnivestmichaeljknives

    So much info. I plan on making a few and it’ll guide me through creating them. Thanks for sharing!

  • @MauledByBears
    @MauledByBears Před 5 lety +4

    I like strikers made from leaf spring or 5160ish. The sparks are nice and orange (1500F range) and they don't do that dandelion head sparkler thing which I find makes them harder to catch.
    Great video John, thanks

    • @waveman0
      @waveman0 Před 3 lety

      dandelion sparks are indicative of high carbon content as I understand it, W2 and O1 do this which is good, the best strikers I have spark like that, as in spray those lovely dandelion sparks. Old files (which are usually made from W2) have those dandelion sparks. My Andrew Kirkham and Olivemead's all do that as well.
      Being harder to catch is a bad thing, and is usually indicative of poor char material.

  • @GWIRailroad
    @GWIRailroad Před 5 lety +2

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Years John. Love all the videos. Blessings!!

  • @TomokosEnterprize
    @TomokosEnterprize Před 5 lety

    These are great. Very useful. I hope you had a great day.

  • @lo5042mh
    @lo5042mh Před 5 lety

    Merry Christmas from the Netherlands! 🎅🎄

  • @robphone4895
    @robphone4895 Před 5 lety +3

    On the twenty-seventh day of Christmas the black bear made for me, a fire steel, a troll cross, a forge welded belt buckle, a basket twist Christmas ornament, a corkscrew, a blanket pin, a squirrel cooker, a key fob, a ball and cup toy, a decorative punch, meat scewers, a hot dog fork, jingle bels, a candy dish, a paper towel holder, a menorah, BBQ tongs, a stocking hunger, a Christmas tree ornament, a cabinet pull, a dinner bell, a steak flipper, a hose hanger, a bottle opener, a candle snuffer, a nice wreath hook and a beaitifull coat hook.
    Merry Christmas! Also to the Christmas gargoyle 😀!

  • @gjones002charter
    @gjones002charter Před 5 lety

    Merry Christmas John to you and your wife.

  • @Big222Dog
    @Big222Dog Před 5 lety

    John thank you so much for do this video, I know I have asked you to do this a while back. It was informative and very helpful.

  • @Sport--willow
    @Sport--willow Před 5 lety +1

    Thank you, Sir.
    I've truly enjoy your videos. Great learning materials for myself and others.
    God Bless
    Merry Christmas to you and your family.

  • @paulgorringe7138
    @paulgorringe7138 Před 3 lety

    Hi i would love to come to your shop it just looks amazing

  • @aslob9321
    @aslob9321 Před 5 lety

    Merry Christmas from Florida, really enjoyed this series.

  • @TALLYTHER
    @TALLYTHER Před 3 lety

    The presentation is great and helpful. One thing that eludes me is something no one seems to address. That is the thickness of the the striker. Is thicker better or is that really a function of effort?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  Před 3 lety

      It seems like 3/16" - 1/4" is typical. Heavier helps get good contact with the flint and but to wide and it may not generate enough fiction

  • @codytradingcompany7798

    I don’t have much luck finding flint, but I have found quartz and agate work just as good. Once again another great video. I’m sad to be at the end of the count down. Thanks for all that you do Merry Christmas and a happy Nee Year

  • @earleriser
    @earleriser Před 4 lety

    Thank you for this film. I have been wondering how this was done. Your knowledge was superb.

  • @forge52100
    @forge52100 Před 5 lety +2

    Nice job. Pretty much exactly how I do mine. At shows they normally sell like hot cakes.

  • @sleepingbear7182
    @sleepingbear7182 Před 5 lety

    Merry Christmas from Texas, and a Happy New Year. Great video as usual.

  • @hayward434
    @hayward434 Před 5 lety

    Merry Christmas from Nova Scotia John, and thanks for you Christmas videos, which have been entertaining.

  • @thijs3514
    @thijs3514 Před 5 lety

    I enjoyed the videos, thanks you. Merry Christmas to you and your family.

  • @andycamm6317
    @andycamm6317 Před 5 lety

    Merry Christmas thanks for all the great video's

  • @MarkATrombley
    @MarkATrombley Před 5 lety +1

    Have you ever tried going triangle, hexagon, round just for a change? Or pentagon, whatever, round? Just for the novelty.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  Před 5 lety

      No, but it sounds much harder. I think for triangle or hexagon it may be easier to start with a round

  • @JarlSeamus
    @JarlSeamus Před 5 lety

    Merry Christmas John, thanks for another great video. These are a really nice, very simple project that is fantastic for teaching hammer control. I make a ton of these for reenactors and rendezvous folks. The simple style of the little one is historically accurate for almost any era from the Roman Empire all the way to the American Civil War.

  • @peterelliott2232
    @peterelliott2232 Před 5 lety

    John, thanks for another great video. Merry Christmas to you and yours.

  • @Res375
    @Res375 Před 5 lety

    Merry Christmas thank you for the video.

  • @AlbiesProductsOnline
    @AlbiesProductsOnline Před 5 lety +1

    If a flint will cut steel that hard is there any other applications we could use it for in the shop

  • @kdktwelve6142
    @kdktwelve6142 Před 5 lety

    Merry Christmas Sir. Thanks for sharing with us

  • @SecularGeek
    @SecularGeek Před 4 lety

    I did warn you! ;)

  • @Brian-bn3qp
    @Brian-bn3qp Před 5 lety +1

    Do you do anything to compensate for cold weather during the annealing process? Love your videos!

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  Před 5 lety +2

      I tend to preheat the vermiculite with a large bar at red heat.

  • @howardrichburg2398
    @howardrichburg2398 Před 5 lety

    Thank you John for your videos. I look forward to watching them everyday. I'm learning a lot. I make my steel strikers out of rake tines our coil spring. Coil spring seem to make good sparks and I have started a few fires with them. And I get the steel for free. Just wondering if I'm making an inferior striker by not using another steel? I try to make my striker fit an altoid tin. Great gifts for archaeologists.

  • @petepeterson4540
    @petepeterson4540 Před 5 lety +1

    merry Christmas your shaving off metal with a rock

  • @Johnhanddrill
    @Johnhanddrill Před 7 dny

    Try old burdock leaves

  • @markashlock9017
    @markashlock9017 Před 3 lety +1

    Great and informative vid! So if you don’t have forging capability, will and old unadulterated file work just as well, or will it be “too” hard? Thanks!!!

  •  Před 5 lety +3

    Merry Christmas to you and your family. Yesterday was all metric today only in inches are you trying to confuse us?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  Před 5 lety

      I wasn't aware I even gave measurements for this one. Merry Christmas

    •  Před 5 lety

      @@@BlackBearForge You did not give the overall dimensions but you did say you would draw out a couple of inches.

    •  Před 5 lety

      @@SwampCritter In the US you use imperial so there is no confusion. The confusion is when they try to appease everyone.

    •  Před 5 lety

      @@SwampCritter How many Empires were built on imperial and how many on the metric system. The Roman Empire, the Spanish Empire, The British empire and now the American financial empire all built on imperial. Metric was created by scientists to count in tens.

  • @752brickie
    @752brickie Před 2 lety

    I think I need a better fire steel. You really have a lot of nice blacksmithing tools. I tried to make a striker out of an old file ,smoothed the sides and it still will not throw a spark?? Do I need to re temper it?? Or is it just because it is old? Thank you!

  • @bunyanforgings7849
    @bunyanforgings7849 Před 5 lety +1

    Amazing video! I've never seen someone start a fire with one of these. In fact I believe this is the first time I've ever heard of a "char cloth". It's one of those cases of "assumed" knowledge. Most other videos gloss over the actual proceedure. Merry Christmas, John.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  Před 5 lety +1

      That is pretty much the same way I make it

    • @bunyanforgings7849
      @bunyanforgings7849 Před 5 lety +2

      @@erniew5805 Thank you for that! I can honestly see myself like Frazier Crane when he and Lilith were in the woods in a cabin with him trying to light two logs bashing a couple of rocks together. Lol. 👍

  • @craigbrown7277
    @craigbrown7277 Před 5 lety

    thank you Happy Holidays
    exc3llent video

  • @victorcastle1840
    @victorcastle1840 Před 5 lety

    Merry Christmas and thanks for solving my mystery striker , maybe .
    I am a old man that just got into primitive fire making starting with a ferrocerium rod and then on to flint and steel
    My favorite striker, out of 5 or 6 I have, looks like the one you make and I could not remember where I got it, at least a yr. ago or more. Your so right all striker are not made a like. I mostly use chert found in the creek beds. Now my favorite tinder is charred punk wood, but still carry charred denim. I am afraid I will lose it , if I carry it to the creek.
    Do you still have them for sale ?
    Vic

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  Před 5 lety

      I do still make them, although not as often as I did once. Both of the ones shown here will be available. Glad you enjoyed the video.

  • @str8nauto
    @str8nauto Před 5 lety +1

    Now, what would a retired firefighter know about starting a fire? 😉

  • @JJ-yk6il
    @JJ-yk6il Před 5 lety

    love your vids. anyone ever tell you you sound alot like ron swanson (nick offerman)?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  Před 5 lety

      That and Bob Ross

    • @JJ-yk6il
      @JJ-yk6il Před 5 lety

      @@BlackBearForge hahaha youre more fun to watch than bob ross

  • @tazman8271
    @tazman8271 Před 3 lety

    John, another OUTSTANDING video. I have a stupid question. (Sorry) when your talking about a steels "carbon content" does forging in a coal forge and quenching in oil (both carbon based materials) increase the carbon content of the steel itself?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  Před 3 lety +1

      Theoretically, but not enough to see the difference

    • @tazman8271
      @tazman8271 Před 3 lety

      @@BlackBearForge thank you

  • @bentoombs
    @bentoombs Před 5 lety +14

    Will you adopt me? No child support needed......😁⚒on!!!!

  • @codytradingcompany7798
    @codytradingcompany7798 Před 5 lety +1

    If I get any coal tonight from Santa I’ll send it your way

  • @JoelWetzel
    @JoelWetzel Před 4 lety

    Would allen wrenches make good flint strikers? bed rails?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  Před 4 lety +1

      You have to test the material to see. I'm not sure what they are typically made of

  • @earlshaner4441
    @earlshaner4441 Před rokem

    The steel with 2 tails is a English steel

  • @gooberdooberwunderb
    @gooberdooberwunderb Před rokem

    Awesome video man… I am looking for my first flint and steel… Can I buy one from you?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  Před rokem +1

      They aren't something I'm currently making, sorry about that

    • @gooberdooberwunderb
      @gooberdooberwunderb Před rokem

      Thank you for the response!
      Well I am looking for a high-quality Flint and steel
      that’s American made… Can you suggest One?

  • @gregoryhorwitz7373
    @gregoryhorwitz7373 Před 3 lety

    I took a quick look at your website and Etsy store, do you ever sell strikers?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  Před 3 lety

      I do put them on the Etsy shop from time to time.

  • @seloulger175
    @seloulger175 Před 3 lety

    Kardeş videon çok güzel fakat dilini bilemediğimiz için incelikleri öğrenmemiz çok zor.

  • @cedrickoch428
    @cedrickoch428 Před rokem

    @alecsteele used o1 steele 😶

  • @earlshaner4441
    @earlshaner4441 Před rokem

    These are called french steel

  • @thor_of_asgaard2649
    @thor_of_asgaard2649 Před 4 lety

    Just a fun fact. It isn't the friction in the shaving process that ignites the steel particles. It's the fact that iron is pyrophoric. Which means that it will ignite at at around roomtemperature. But the sureface of af steel bar is so guickly coated in a oxidiced laver that it isn't noticeable. But the Tiny piece of steel has a Huge surface-volume proportion which means that it Will ignite from contact with oxygen. Just so you know ;) Nice instruction though

  • @commenter4799
    @commenter4799 Před 3 lety

    I just watched a video and he used O1 for the striker, lol.

  • @creative27feb
    @creative27feb Před 2 měsíci

    💕👍🙏

  • @nobs8862
    @nobs8862 Před 3 lety

    Fire steel is a nickname for a ferrocerium rod. Neither flint nor a steel striker, nor both together, are correctly called a fire steel.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  Před 3 lety +1

      Interesting that the old fur trade records list them as fire steels as do the records from the Museum of the Fur Trade.

    • @nobs8862
      @nobs8862 Před 3 lety

      @@BlackBearForge And long ago, a man was called a "wer", but nowadays the word is man. I can list countless examples of things which are no longer called what they were called long ago, and countless examples of things which are now called what other things used to be called. Nowadays, fire steel is a nickname for a ferrocerium rod.

    • @canadiangemstones7636
      @canadiangemstones7636 Před 10 měsíci

      It’s a nickname, nobody gives a damn about proper usage.

  • @petepeterson4540
    @petepeterson4540 Před 5 lety

    A file

  • @notapplicable2515
    @notapplicable2515 Před 2 lety

    tfw carlito goes out of focus