Remote ID is Coming - Dronetag BS Install + Setup
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Crazy question..why do you need remoteID on a sub 250 drone?
Great question! Pinning this 👍
If you're flying drones under a part 107, you need RID regardless of weight.
If you're just flying recreationally drones under 250g don't need RID.
No you don't. The laws are not enforced. You're more likely to get in trouble by having remote id. 🙄
@@davidsvideos195 I bet I am one of the few people that can argue the latter.
I was approached by local PD when filming an event, above a crowd, with the sub250g drone that I showed in this video.
This was late September in Andover, MA.
The officer I spoke with (to my surprise) knew what he was talking about and had worked with the FAA in the past due to a prior drone incident in the town. The officer asked me about the weight of the drone, who I had coordinated with, LAANC authorization, and asked if I had RID on board yet. This was soon after the FAA pushed the RID “enforcement” back to March 16 and the officer was (amazingly) aware of this as well.
I wouldn’t say the regulation won't be enforced by any means.
The likelihood of getting caught flying a drone without RID will be very slim and few and far between. But I think it's fair to say that someone operating a drone business has a MUCH higher likelihood of getting caught simply due to the increased flight time and where they are flying.
@@TRONCATFPV I'm curious, did you have a VO with you at the time?
Remote ID is only coming to those who comply. The rest of us dont have to deal with this crap. Happy flying indeed!
Very true as a matter of fact I’ve never even heard of that till now. I prefer to just keep flying as is and as a free person Im choosing to totally ignore this. Lol 😉
In Germany if self build and is more than 250 g it’s automatically in the category c3/c4 so that shit is a must, also I need a fucking drone flying license too. Seriously those regulations literally killing that kind of hobby…
I just mounted the “No Effing RID Module” on all my drones. Cost is free, draws zero current from the drone battery, and the module weighs a mere 0.0 grams. Works like a charm!
The intro is all I need to know about your stance on it and how to convey it to your audience, very well said.
The people who need this on their drones won't have it.. Cool video though very informative
I like the no bs video that puts aside the opinions and looks at the hardware objectively. Also, I like that the dronetag bs at least replaces my gps module in my larger drones with almost no penalty.... outside of cost.
If you need one this one is painless
im definetly not down with RID (Thats a whole different comment/topic) BUT i love that you made this video. shows how easy it can be to be "Legal" for people wishing to go that route. Thank you for making this video!
Greatly appreciate this video. Business owner as well who wants to remain complaint. We don't have to agree with it but it's much easier to MYOB and CYOA. Subbed.
Cool! yeah I bought the BS, to my surprise I got it pretty quick., OK, so I was stoned when I ordered it watching your other video, by the way did you do a pavo 20 video?? I wonder if it could be plugged in from the led light on the pavo 20?? hhm.. I did order the batt in case im to lazy to get into it.
I read on the manual that you are suppose to keep that away from a heat source and have the antennas out to get good signal, have you had any issues with that or ways to have the antennas out. Looking to pick up a couple of these for my 250g quads and looking to get the best one. Between this and the db121pcb. This seems more user friendly but long wait time to actually get it delivered to US
just got a used Mavic Mini … if I buy this with the battery accessory is it essentially plug-n-play if I mount it to the drone?
have you tried the Flite Test FT EZ ID too? I just ordered one and now I am kicking myself a little. Is it possible to use the gps for RTH too?
Would you trust the GPS passthough for Return to Home?
Curious on the follow up build video, is that coming soon? I am sure you are busy, just checking, By the way, love your videos, very helpful.
does it have a m10 chiop for the GPS?, and also, can i use one single module for different aircrafts?
The video I have been waiting for. Just picked up 3 from Flite Test (they are right down the road). Going to install after watching this. Thank you and happy New year!
I am wondering... Would it be a ""good"" idea to install the BS but then limit its effectiveness by sabotaging the antennas? I guess you could clip them short or just outright remove them if its safe for the module. This way it works fine at very short ranges and you are technically perfectly compliant but as soon as you gain some distance it just stops being effective and you don't have to worry about it... in minecraft.
Is that a GoPro mount on your QAVS Pro Nano? If so how does it handle a naked GoPro?
Love your videos!
it is! its the one that's meant for the QAV 2.5 but it fits perfect on the nano as well
@@TRONCATFPV thanks for the info! Love your videos 👌
but what if you alreary have a GPS module? This BS module will work as a standalone GPS module and replace the one I have? And will work for GPS rescue in BF?
If you have a GPS already on your drone, check out dronetags DRI module. It’s meant more for drone manufacturers that want to make drones RID compliant but hobbyist can use it too.
This is cheaper than the BS, has integrated antennas, goes in between the GPS & FC and is equally as small.
If you ultimately decide to use the BS as your standalone GPS, you can configure it in betaflight like a normal GPS so you can use GPS rescue 👍
On a quad like cinebot25, would the RID being encased in the frame cause any issues? Assuming not considering rx and vtx are in there, but Id like a professional opinion before purchasing.
It may take a bit longer to acquire satellites, otherwise that should work good!
@TRONCATFPV thanks! I'm trying to avoid securing it on top of a quad in the event of a crash. Unfortunately for my wallet, that involves buying a bigger quad so I can fit it 'inside'.
I want to get 1 quad set up and ready in the event I get some 107 work.
Do you consider flying to post on an unmonetized YT as part 107?
I'm in the 'better to be safe than sorry' group, but curious of others opinions.
I teach in an applied physics program that focuses on the use of sUAS for infrastructure inspection. I cornered an FAA rep at the last AUVSI show and asked him how remote ID will make anything "safer" or prevent bad actors from being naughty. His reply is that it wont. This whole thing is about public perception. It has nothing at all to do with safety. Its about showing those who are ignorant of how we use these that the government is providing "oversight" even if its in name only.
I think a more reasonable plan would be requiring remote ID within five miles of an airport or if you are flying under a controlled shelf. Other than that there is zero point to this device. What's really hilarious is that in the areas we fly the most for our program we rarely have decent enough cell coverage to get the app running anyway.
How did you get the gps to work in betaflight?
Check out the Phoenix uas mRid for fpv. 2g, use with any M10 gps.
Looks very similar to the Dronetag DRI but is more expensive and is slightly bigger.
@@TRONCATFPV supports gps passthrough to both beta flight and INAV so closer feature to drone tag bs and similar price when add the gps.
Right so once you add the GPS you're looking at pretty much the same price as a dronetag BS but have a heavier RID module.
I'm pretty sure the DRI also has GPS passthrough and just goes in-line between the GPS & FC.
I'm struggling to see what makes the Pheonix $20 more expensive than the DRI.
@@TRONCATFPVThe DRI seems interesting but it doesn’t look like they’ve implemented Betaflight passthough for the GPS….at least as far as I can tell.
My Dronetag BS modules didn't come with power cables at all. anyone know what plug they use ?
I use this pack of SH1.0 cables/connectors, the 4-pin connector should be what you need amzn.to/3u9ThvB
how in the world have you gotten it to work as a gps ? I've been trying everything I can think of for the last couple days and can't get it
I finally got it! It isn't an msp gps like the other rid units. It needs to be set as a gps sensor on your uart with 115200 baud. And then use the ublox protocal with the auto toggles off. It only works on 4.4.3. It doesn't work on 4.5 yet or 4.3
Thanks for this video. I’ve got a couple of QAV 2.5” quads in my fleet, and I got the dronetag beacon for them, but that littlest unit would be even better for saving on weight! Also, do you know if there is a way to see the gps tracks after your flight is over in the dronetag app? That would be super helpful for a lost quad, but I haven’t found a way to do it…
Yessir!
I've been playing with the app a little bit more and you can see all of your previous flights.
If you click your profile icon in the top right corner, then click "My Flights" you should be able to see them 👍
@@TRONCATFPVthanks for the reply! I checked that out, and it shows my flights, but I can’t view the actual gps tracks, (unless I’m transmitting my current signal) I can only select and delete them. Upon doing a little digging- I guess I’m on the free plan and you have to pay for a monthly subscription to save the flight data for up to 12 months…. It’s a bummer that it costs so much for a little “required” device like this and you don’t even get a free trial subscription to the premium features!
Well it's a gps, so use betaflight logging, (gpx export from 4.5) or use any opentx or edgetx or freedomtx rc special function to log telemetry (easy to convert to csv and import into google maps). TBS even has a live map view while flying in their app.
We all know where the bs stands for... I feel bad you guys need to deal with this..
Hmmm. Every day lawmakers get caught not following the laws they make. I think I'll pass on this one.
Bull shxx module 😂
Amen to that. 😂😂🤣🤣
The bs stands for bull shit, I'm not paying for something I don't want
It’s actually BS that they’re needed…..
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:01 🚁 *The video covers the installation of Remote ID modules on drones, addressing the importance for compliance with regulations.*
01:01 📦 *The Drone tag BS module, priced at $89, weighing 1g, is highlighted as the smallest and most affordable option for achieving remote ID compliance on smaller drones.*
01:30 📡 *The video introduces the Drone tag Beacon and Mini, offering network and broadcast remote ID capabilities. The Beacon, at $219 and 17g, features only broadcast remote ID, while the Mini, at $329 and 32g, includes both broadcast and network remote ID.*
02:54 📲 *The setup process for both the Beacon and Mini is explained, emphasizing their ease of use, internal power supply, and antennas.*
03:06 🧲 *The focus shifts to the Drone tag BS module, highlighted for its small size (comparable to a Micro SD card) and ease of installation.*
04:18 🛰️ *Additional accessories for the Drone tag BS are showcased, including a case, cover, small battery, and upgraded antenna for improved satellite lock.*
07:47 🔒 *The importance of antenna orientation for optimal performance is emphasized, with the recommended 90° orientation for reliable satellite lock.*
09:28 📱 *The video demonstrates the setup process in the Drone Tag app, registering the device, and ensuring GPS functionality.*
11:31 🌐 *Once set up, the Drone tag BS module is shown broadcasting remote ID information, and the video concludes with outdoor flight tests demonstrating its performance.*
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Frankly, as an international observer, choosing to comply with the FAA's RemoteID is stereotypically unamerican.
Well, it's comply or die (or rather, lose the flight license and/or business). Unfortunately. The US is rather sensitive about civilians handling somewhat readily-available flying devices, especially after 9/11. Not to mention, we've seen the tactical use of commonly-available racing drones carrying grenades and RPGs over in the Ukraine/Russia conflict in the last couple years, so...
My main concern with the mandated tech is that it broadcasts its data unencrypted instead of encrypted.
Only because he is a business owner. The vast majority of flyers who do it for a hobby will most likely ignore it completely, rules be damned, as is the American way.
$89!!!! That will be like £100 ffs
At £100 a gram, it's literally more expensive than coke 😅
💰 money for 🧠
I'll just not comply with this like I do T comply with any of the other rules 🤷🏽♂️ I realize that's a privilege because I don't fly for a living.
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If you use remote id your flights can be recorded and you will have a bunch of fines to pay every month. Not because you did anything wrong but the way the regulation is written, you cannot fly anything without violating the regulation. So if you love your life, don't fly anything with remote id! And stay away from the bad guys...
I'll be sure to update this comment with my monthly fines as I receive them 👍
@@TRONCATFPV But FAA love you for promoting remote id. I was speaking to the rest of us 😂