Is this the end of the USWNT's international dominance?! 🇺🇸🤔
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- Charlie Davies, Nico Cantor and Alexis Guerreros recap the Women's World Cup round of 16 game between Sweden and USA where the USWNT were dumped out in controversial fashion on penalties. The crew debate whether this is the end of the USWNT's international dominance and discuss what went wrong.
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In the US, the suburban and generally affluent families provided the player pool for soccer. That has never really worked for the men, but was fine for the women as effectively the rest of the world invested little in women’s football.
Now we are seeing the effects of how minivans taking Madison and Ashley to their soccer practice a few times a week and playing glorified kickball on the weekend does not really produce technically sound and creative players.
As more woman overseas are exposed to high level technical training in academy structures designed for long term development, and we in the US continue to wallow in pay to play club soccer focused only on winning at a young age, we will continue to see the US fail at these competitions.
Vlatko is no match tactically for these other European coaches. This team looked awful, there was no identity, style of play or game plan from what I can tell. It was just a group of talented players running around as fast and as hard as they can with no coherency. Nowhere near good enough.
I actually think this is a good for the USWNT to experience this
It should have been experienced under a better coach. I think many might not see the lesson that needs to be seen because the results might just be blamed on the coach and nothing else gets scrutinized.
Agree, good for us to go through adversity and keep raising the standards locally and globally
@myfasmarine the coach just made bad sub decisions the players played every game aside from Sweden terribly
@@cotacachi12 yes they did… because he’s a bad coach. Good coaches bring out good performances. We did not have a good coach, so we didn’t have good performances.
@myfasmarine no hahaha, the plays were fine the ideas were ok too, it's not the coaches fault all the girls passes were too strong and their first touches were terrible, it was the players fault along with their nerves. The coach made bad decisions with substitutes though but to ignore the terrible quality futball the uswnt played is crazy. Like part of it is the coaches fault for bad subbing, and part of it is the players' fault for literally messing up technical skill aspects of the sport.
As an England fan, I hope the USA don't be too harsh on the American team. It was always going to happen one day. They can't win every tournament and were unlucky the way they went out in the end. They will regroup. Look at England today, we scraped through against Nigeria on penalties when we should be out.
Thank you! Know one is saying anything about that game. Megan's done alot for this team. Bad coaching is what done it
The difference is England did far better than the US in their Group stage; who were pretty woefull and lucky to get through. It's the overall US performance that's the problem.
The uswnt began their dominance at the time when the rest of the world didn't care about women's international soccer.
Completely agree with the US losing dominance in the sport as a whole. Honestly, this was inevitable. The US was way ahead when it came to building up Women's Soccer, but that gap is closing. I'm not convinced the gap is closing because the US development has gotten worse, but simply because other countries are putting more resources into it.
But the reason we lost, and haven't been as good these past 2 years, is simply due to the coaching staff's decisions. Not b/c of our national player talent pool.
Totally agree. I think Vlatko didn't select the best "team" oriented type players and was going more off of individual position dominant players. Vlatko was a "yes man" coach for these players with too much coddling and was afraid to push them out of their comfort zones in training. And it showed in the attacking third, where they failed miserably. Vlatko was in over his head for tactical awareness & I'm surprised he got as far as he did (without being called out). But the older players weighed heavily on hiring him. Ariane Hingst (Fox Analyst) nailed the description of his abilities as "weak."
Our player pool is fine, as I think the college level is improving with tactics and technical skills. We'll be moving in the right direction if we can land a Sarina Wiegman
(England) or Emma Hayes (Chelsea) as coach. Or Margueritte Aozasa (UCLA) who shows great promise.
I for one am glad the the US is not completely dominant. It makes me proud of women’s football around the world and makes for a more entertaining sport overall. It’s no fun to have one team win everything all that time
@@Fanfic11 I think the USWNT team would say the same. Im sure they think they're still the best, but have always been advocates for growing the women's game.
I really feel that Swedish GK, Musovic's tremendous saves during the 90' got in the heads of US players. That they thought they would have to really do something special to beat her on penalty kicks. They overthought their attempts which resulted in blown shots.
Good observation. PKs were beyond explanation.
Musivic's saves were way over-rated. All but 1 was right at her. USA strikers had another crappy performance that's all. Naher way outplayed her.
@@scottnelson2384 false..Naeher only outplayed her in Pks
No I disagree. I think both GKs did well and no one outplayed another. Ridiculous observation.
Shots on Target US - 11 Swe - 1
Saves US -1 Swe - 11
Woman of the match Swedish GK ALYSSA
NAEHER. Go troll elsewhere.
Ok but we need to just be the best version of ourselves first. We were terrible under Vlatko. His strategy was let Mal win the game or Sophia or Trinity etc. When teams set up to stop that he was cowardly and clueless. No more excuses after him…
You mentioned 3 players- tell us what you would do.
@@mosijahi3096 he should know more than me to get the best out of them. First the European tour should’ve shown him Rapinoe was washed. Having Horan Sullivan and not trying out others more mobile or even Sonnett there for 2-3 years or any other midfielder. Noticing Morgan hadn’t scored since May for club or country. That wasn’t working. Personnel, roster could’ve been used and tested. He was friends with too many players. Fullbacks handcuffed wingers handcuffed. So many things. They were basically saying Morgan played fine but that combination wasn’t working for a while. Actually based on NWSL Hatch was more suited to what he wanted to do with Morgan
These are great points. The more that I think about it, he wanted his forwards to go one on one and play hero ball. How often does that work with set defenses? He really didn’t put them in a position to win. That’s upsetting.
They keep on making the assumption that the USA has world class players, but I didn’t see that at all. They have very one dimensional players who lack tactical intelligence and technical skills and creativity. My conclusion is being a great player in the NWSL no longer means you are a great international players, so the so called great talents on the USA team like Smith and Rodman, are not top tier global talents now the standards have got better.
I think more US players moving to play in the top European clubs and the UEFA Women's Champions league could help the growth of world class talent for USWNT, like Macario and Mia Fishel at Chelsea and Lindsey Horan at Lyon. I could count as many players in the various national teams, like the Swedish goalkeeper, whose clubs play in the UEFA women's Champions league. Lindsey was the only one in the US team.
@@Ricotet4 but the next question is would these European clubs still want these American players when they are clearly technically inferior to European players and expensive when they earn so much with the equal pay deal and the NWSL salaries. It is noticeable that the English WSL have very few Americans because they are deemed too expensive and the only time you had a lot of Americans in the WSL was during covid when the shut down the NWSL.
@@Delboy0I’ve coached youth soccer in the US, and technically you are correct. It is particularly hard to develop girls who can dribble…our system seems designed to discourage it!
I only train individual players now as dealing with parent-run teams is too frustrating. Some are knowledgeable, but most are not. If these parents were in the European system, they would not have this level of influence.
@@Michael-cb5nm Most of these type of dribblers or creative players come out of street or cage football. America street and cage football doesn’t exit in the USA because football is a more middle class suburban sport played on fields. This means the USA will continue struggle to produce this type of player because you don’t have that street football culture.
I agree - I watched a lot of the USA matches and while sophia smith is good, All I ever saw her do was make runs and strike at the goal what ever chance she got. she never really slowed the play down or make dribbles into the box or even pass to a team mate. If that's what the NWSL is like then it needs to change its tactics.
If It wasn't for that Goal Post (vs Portugal) and especially Vietnam featured in the same group, USA team would have been eliminated @Group stage. So Vietnam did help USA survived until this match. Sweden's been consistent and strong throughout the tournament. USWNT's faith, I saw it coming since after the Vietnam game and surely knew USWNT would not make it to quarter finals.
good video. thanks for the clip
on the changes not being made comment: I would think/hope USWNT is evaluating all options with this probably being one of the first days team and staff are home and stateside (and heading to their NWSL teams). It would have been too aggressive to fire Vlatko right after the loss, as everyone's packing up and flying home.
Vlatko has served his time, but it is time to move on under a new direction....
i feel so badly for him but it was NOT a shocking exit. we were not the favorites.
True
@@kirstieb8025 us were favourites at the start of the tournament .
@@davehoward22 No, one of the outside favorites. England & Australia were among the favorites with Spain. France & USA being 2nd favorites.
The US are not producing in the u17 and u20 age groups anymore that is concerning the US might not win major trophies way more frequently than they usually did in 1999 and 2003 as well in 2015 and 2019 it might be in 20years they win a Olympics or a World Cup again might be lucky to win both it is going to be a drought unfortunately for them.
They should never have let that purple haired girl off that bench. She did more harm than help to the team by missing that PK. Good riddance to her.
This is the best thing Sweden has done for us since giving us Ace of Base.
Lol since abba
And the Statue of Liberty!
And Minecraft and Spotify.
It is very difficult for the U.S. coach Vlatko Andonovski to manage a team where the players are more focused on things off the field than on the field. You can change coaches, but if the players continue on the same path, then no coach can help the team.
Also, Vlatko could have changed up the starting 11 and/or the formation. He did neither until he was basically forced to by having a key player out from a red card and going into a knockout round and the media/analysts all saying a change of formation was needed. Should have run a 4-2-3-1 the entire tournament. That 3-4-3 business was a big mistake. Blame in this case should be on both the coach and the distraction-laden players
Clueless comment, Vladko has the mentality of a second division team and clearly is not fit for the task. He should had been fired after the Olympics.
Hope people understand something that these hosts do not -- simply being American doesnt mean we should win every single tournament. This current uswnt is inexperienced, young, and without chemistry due to lack of time to gel. This was not the same roster as '19. And to expect automatic success because of nationality is incredibly stupid.
I don't get it when commentators say USWNT missed chances against Sweden. Why are they so inward looking? The Sweden goalkeeper was excellent on the night. They're so focused on the their team that they don't see any opposing brilliance. She deserves more credit for her exploits. The US attackers could not have done any more in that match.
What a silly question. USWNT is definitely not internationally dominant now, so their dominance can't end. They don't have any. They've been on a down slope since last world cup.
They had dominance...
They won the last 2 world cups
@@pbloemer They've been on a down slope since last world cup.
@@davehoward22 They've been on a down slope since last world cup.
@@richard6440 they won the euros in between.
I’m a huge USWNT fan but it is not good for any sport for the same team to win all the time. The gap has indeed closed and that’s a good thing.
Hiring the worst coach in all of soccer, and refusing to bench Morgan and Rapinoe, what did we expect???
Europeans are going to dominate the sport like with the mens side. Women football was once an amateur sport, not now anymore. Today, football nations like Spain, Netherland, Portugal to name a few are investing considerably in female football the last few years. The female Champions League in Europe has never been as coveted as today because big teams like Barcelona, Arsenal, Chelsea, Madrid, Manchester, Juventus, Bayern are now investing heavily on the sport to win that title. That will increase the standard of the womens football not only in Europe but internationally. The new young talents that showcased their skill in this WC are likely to play in those big teams who have the ressource.
For the US to be able to keep up with europeans or rest of the world for that matter, they need to revamp their system. Player development should be prioritized above the "winning mentality". Also the federation should encourage players to play in the best clubs in Europe. And finally "college soccer" should be substituted by academies national wise or abroad. Alternatively domestic women club teams should merge together with MLS clubs who already have relatively strong ressource both economically and technically with good academies.
Edit: That being said the US should have won vs Sweden because Sweden played very poor and will be exposed big time vs Japan if they play the same ugly football.
The only reason the US had dominance for so long was that the rest of the world's women did not play soccer, shooting fish in a barrel? That has changed over the last few years as the results are demonstrating. The US men have a far harder task as most US males don't play soccer but the rest of the world does.
There was no social media in 1991. Mia Hamm's generation showed determination, fair play and class to be the best in the world while splitting their efforts so Women's Soccer could grow. This latest USWNT - isn't even a national team. There are a laughable band of Mean Girl Soccer Influencers who want to pose for duck face selfies and dance with fans after games they should have lost to better teams. The USWNT were sent home from the 2023 World Cup in their Social Media Clown Car.
Where does the idea come from that the USWNT has tons of talent?
Are we talking athletic talent or soccer playing talent?
OK, athletic talent you bet, sure.
But soccer playing talent - wishful thinking - weren't you watching the games.
Our ability to control a soccer ball, retain the ball under pressure, pass the ball accurately, and demonstrate a high soccer IQ were all eclipsed by the Dutch, the Portuguese, and the Swedes.
Or any other first rank team you'd care to mention.
Our athletic talent has kept us in the conversation as a first rank team, bolstered by a couple (a couple) of really good players, e.g. Mal & Girma.
Superior athletes generally do better on defense than attack, and much better on defense than the midfield. In attack (and defense) speed will often rule the day.
As far back as 2015, our athletic superiority was becoming less dramatic - that team's success was driven in large part by the genius of Morgan Brian.
2019 was the swan song for athletic superiority coupled with iron clad winning attitude, typified by Lloyd, Ertz, O'hara and others.
Now both of these effects have lessened. Everyone can see the lack of clothes on the Empress.
An understrength Spanish team played us off the field in October - as did the Dutch, as did Portugal.
And of course, our coaching was terrible. The culture on the team has long forced and emphasis on player management skills over anything like soccer coaching excellence.
We only won in 2015 because an injury forced the introduction of MB - looked like a good call by Ellis, but she was forced into it.
Leaving Thompson on the bench during this cup, while tired and slow defenders struggled with our pace down the wings - was criminal.
Our one advantage was still a marginal athletic superiority with Smith, Rodman, Williams, and Thompson - this advantage was squandered.
If we are going to be in the conversation as a first rank women's soccer/football power, we have to start by being honest about what the problems are.
Telling ourselves we have oodles of soccer talent and just need a coaching adjustment is unlikely to achieve the desired result.
I'm pretty sure ALL of us can say that both our mens and woman's programs are seriously lacking in tactics whether it's on the field or with substitutes. Can't we just agree that the issue starts at the very top, US Soccer. All our players deserve top notch coaches. For heavens sake this is the USA not only can we afford it but we have some of if not the best players globally.
Max Bretos floated the possibility that playing time and squad was influenced by advertisers. Good they went out early as a wake up call to the USSL and The NWSL to catch up to the Super League!
Can you imagine a sponsor, who has their logo on the team shirts, going to the head coach of a Premier League team, and saying " We want you to play John Smith " . He would get thrown so far out of the ground, he would land in France ! NO way would anyone but the coach and his staff make playing decisions.
There is nothing here to suggest we are not a top team . Just that there was a bad run of form due to team chemistry , injuries , and coaching ineptitude.
USWNT issue is no real goalscorer Alex Morgan is been terrible for over 5 years only being able to score against minnows. The rest of the first team is decent the bench is average so the depth outside first 11 is not there. But hey if USWNT finds a natural goal scorer they again compete with the best.
Look at the U20 world cup results, the US didn't make it in groupstage!
One question.... Where was Mia Fischel??
Their time as the very best is over, but they'll remain among the top teams
Shocking exit? Hardly! It was more likely inevitable.
"Is this the end of the USWNT's international dominance?".... IT IS... and all your predticions! Succers!
At least until we get a team that's not self absorbed...
Who's going to find 11 women from the US who aren't self absorbed🤣
Reminds me of when the Team USA Men’s Basketball team got humbled at the Athens Olympics ‘04, not winning gold for the first time - a collection of star players, not a team, with subpar coaching.
USWNT Redeem Team in 2027! 🇺🇸
The women's soccer team has dominated for the last decade and still didn't make any money. This time around these beautiful ladies got paid! Good for them.
Coaching bla bla bla. The US had an early advantage due to college soccer. There is no way in hell that system can compete against the European system now that they are starting to take it seriously. Unless the US completely reforms its player development system I would be very surprised if the USWNT ever wins the cup again.
US soccer federation need total revamp both men and women teams. Start with the GM, coaches, team organization from bottom to top. I’ve seen our junior teams play and they have no tactical talent. They depend on individual Athleticism instead of team play. Every one wants to be the hero.
Start picking players that are unselfish and team player.
Start now to get ready for the Olympic.
Hopefully the new generation can get it straight. I also hope that they haven’t been tainted by the Rapinoe’s of the world.
Lastly, show u have pride in our country at least put ur hand over ur heart for the national anthem. Is that too much to ask. By away Americans should not have to ask it should be automatic.
God bless America.
The third guy said right. The European giants are investing more in women's football recent years and the quality in European leagues and champions league improved a lot. Only way usa can keep up with them in the future is their players should go to these European teams.
All of these people predicted USA champion 😂😂😂😂😂 these so called analists, Nico me extraña you know better
The claimed standard is not realistic any more because the quality of the other teams has improved very much so they make it simply impossible to fulfill its requirements. And besides the quality of the players is not that outstanding. Power football is not enough any more and the US players are technically not the best. But don´t worry, with no doubt somewhere in the top 10 the team will range in future depending on the talents available.
What surprises me most though is the fact that the panel simply seems not able to accept that the US dominance is over for good. By the way, obviously nobody seems to consider that Rapino missed on purpose to take her ultimate revenge on all republican patriots that bully her. For I have never seen her miss a penalty.
Good point on Rapinoe PK. Never enter my mind that a player would do that but if there was a player that would be Rapinoe. Don’t that Sophia Smith could have won the game but she also missed and O’Hara followed up with yet another miss. Three missed PKs in the row. Never seen that in any soccer game. Karma
A poor world cup for sure, there is no sugar coating that, but for me Vlatko is the common denominator for the failures, and its no coincidence that hes been the head coach for this team for the last 2 major women's tourneys that ended in failures. Hes held on to Alex Morgan leading the line far too long, he used players over the last 2 years leading up to the WC, and then didnt use them at all in the WC(Alana Cook, Ashley Sanchez and Sofia Huerta). It just didnt look like he knew what to do with what he had at his disposal and thats criminal giving the talent at this level
Seems that these young guys are desperate for Vlatko's head. Don't worry it's done, he will be fired or They will ask him to announce that he is leaving the position, either way that is the end of it. The Federation will announce other changes as the whole system is diverting from the top. The NWSL needs more competition more games with clubs that have different styles of play. Before it was enough to be physically strong and to be angry. Today the women's soccer world has changed to be more tactical, more creative, more intelligent but so far the NWSL and the federation has failed to recognize that. If we keep ignoring for instance the women's Mexican league, we will miss an opportunity as there is no other league in the vicinity. Mx league clubs are already aiming to Europe.
Mexico failed to qualify for the World Cup.
But sure I would like to see NWSL and Liga MX Femenil compete in a regional tournament like the men's Leagues Cup.
You don't know much when you say that PKs are a gamble. The kicker has all the advantages. A goalie never blocks a PK. It's the shooter that misses the shot. I would've bet my life that if it came to PKs our national team would have never lost.
The end? It ended a while ago.
When a country spent a handsome load of money and time in building and developing a certain sports, the success is always cherished by its nationals. What about other countries, competing countries, regardless of populace and economic strength? The success of the USWNT has been a phenomenon. It has been admired, inspiring for many European countries, and followed all over the world. Asian countries took a different approach but the success of Japan in this international game is not seen as a miracle but grit, determination, and discipline. There is such a stark difference between Asian culture and western culture in everything, sports is one of them only. The Asian culture is more subtle, refined and people in Asia seldom considered a successful sport in soccer, holds so much value in their hearts. Perhaps Asian people like Japanese, Korean and Chinese normally do not match the physicality and strength of Europeans in body built. Therefore, that "dominance" prevailed in women world soccer when a golden generation of footballers emerged in the US while other countries around the world watched, followed, and attempted to match.
In league games, whether you are talking about basketball, tennis, soccer or football (American), your success in lifting a trophy is sometimes short lived. A team could win a title, be it a nationwide competition or international, could fail to defend that title in a second season. A serial winner is always the result of good team management, retention of talent, adding strength in different dimensions and trimming weaknesses by attrition. So players come and go, new talents emerges and falling stars fade away naturally from the arena. We call this a natural cycle. Just like life, things come and go. So if you are moaning about USWNT's poor performance failing to chase a third successive World Cup title, please don't be. It is only time for change. It is reality check. It is life. It is the truth about sports.
The US is an affluent country with advance social economic lifestyles supported by abundant wealth. The social media had a huge part to play in the success of the USWNT in promotion, televising and advertising supports. The popularity of this sport and support of the national team is a collective effort of the people of America, which momentum and stamina will be extremely difficult if not impossible for another country to come close. Take China for example, they have the money, the resources and the heart to do the same but their political system is a restrain in yielding a result in dominating soccer success. So the answer to the question is, no, this is not the end of American women soccer to dominate the world. It is a common phenomenon, a cycle, the teams take turns in dominating a sport. Scientifically, the dominance definition is a function of various resources input, time investment, talent development, and public support etc., dominance therefore is the output. The US has everything to be successful again but time is a key factor for all the elements to click and work. The World Cup holds a competition every four years, generation of players develop in this cycle. It may be another eight years or twelve years for the next bunch of talents to succeed this USWNT. To cry over spilt milk is pathetic. It is like history, things come and go, like a kingdom at its height and faded into mist when its realm is destroyed. You only have history, you don't have an illusive "dominance" of world football in any sense.
Is it the end of USWNT dorminance？Obviously！But good news is maybe no team will dorminate for a while
Very good point, today we saw another highly favorite England struggled to the next round
Given how much better so many countries are at football than the us, it was only a matter of time before they got serious about their womens national teams and level them up.
This scheme vs Sweden....just think if Rose could have been out there? Our technical prowess does not match the strength of our athleticism....that's on all our National coaches. But we struggled to score against weak teams in the past few yrs of friendlies. And with Pugh, Macario and Press on this team....Rapinoe would have already retired.
The front three didn’t work. I believe Vlatko was not flexible. Every match requires different strategy. With Sonnet, US controlled the midfield. Why didn’t he put her there from the get go? I believe the U.S. team has talents, but were not utilized effectively. It looks like Vlatko didn’t know the players well. Talents wasted. Some new young players were sitting at the bench the whole time. From the second game, we all know that Rapinoe and Morgan didn’t work. Vlatko still put them in. He thought that the veterans would bring the cup home. I am very upset.
That was a makeshift lineup that worked as fluke, it won't work next time against better teams. They're in that situation because Vlatko failed to find a solid centerback as he's not confident in Alana Cook, that's why Ertz was playing centerback which is not her position. Ertz is a master at midfield. Sullivan failed time and time again to control that midfield. Sonnett is a defensive liability, she's lucky to get away with fouls because the referee didn't make many calls and ignored many infractions.
Sonnett and Sullivan are mediocre players who should not be in this roster. All that issues have been going on for quite some time, and the responsibility to fix it falls on Vlatko, but he failed.
Ok last time it was said in this program that Japan is a low block and counter team. So I don't trust these people's analysis. Second, why are we acting like is the end of the world? Teams go though waves and also I have never seen them analyze NWSL....... I WANT Sandra and Lisa here. These people are not insightful and truly lack knowledge of the NWSL......
Yes teams do go through good and bad but they were on the decline especially when you have someone like Rapinoe as captain who think’s like Biden 😂
@@jeromemanoharan7427 Clearly a political agenda comment.... not even worth discussing....
The USWNT probably always be competitive simply because of the resources and football is probably in the top 3 sports practiced by women. So the USWNT will always have a large pool of players to draw from.
This can go two ways. Either they take this very poor performance and turn it into something positive or it would be the end of USWNT. It all depends on the next coach and attitude of players. At this point I just don't see it happening anytime soon. Unfortunately they have become very similar to USMNT. Sad.
Good commentary, but, omg let the woman speak!
I think the USA needs to step up and take better care of their youth teams, because this championship has shown that the rest of the field has caught up. Just look at the success of the Spanish youth team
U20 World Cup: 🥇 (2022)
U17 World Cup: 🥇 (2022)
U17 European Championship: 🥈 (2023)
U19 European Championship: 🥇 (2023)
If they can replicate this success at senior level, USA could find it difficult to catch up with them and other European sides.
The USWNT were in a tough draw, having said this - they need to play better as a team. The South African, Nigerian, and Haiti teams are to reckon, but I have faith, our team is still one of the top teams and will prove it.
the insulting physical dominance is not there anymore as other programs invest more and more; and given that those other football cultures produce players that are highly technical already, the cocktail is not looking good for a a football culture that only seeks fast transitions and dominance in set pieces!! and BTW that is even more evident in the men’s game where the presence of a solid midfielder is no where to be seen - in that sense the women’s team has advantage because they have Lavelle - it’s not about the coach. It’s about a football culture that ponders being reactive rather than proactive - Sweden gave them the ball after minute 30 and after that the USWNT didn’t know what to di with it!!!
No. However, this tournament lets us know we will need to fight for future wins. Another thing, the Japanese seem to have found the formulae. They will be a force to deal without. They are a copy of the original US team.
The US stars missed their PKs, period. If Sophia Smith made her shot, the US should have advanced.
US played better than Sweden in the game but failed to score.
Sweden's goalkeeper was superb in the game, but she did not save any PKs during the shootout.
Naeher was the better goalkeeper during the PK shootout, but her teammates let her down.
yup
Should have seen it coming. They’ve been in decline since the Tokyo Olympics. And no bright future for our youth programs either.
They not scoring because they play individuals not looking to pass when other players are open.
They pass when they should rip the ball and don’t pass when they should.
Poor decision making was their problem and their passing was horrible.
So many problems. Clean house starting with GM and coach.
Im not sure what's so shocking about there exit. It was to be expected. They had no ball movement tactically , they could not score, a couple of the past players said the the team had become toxic, I agree, they became political and forgot to paly soccer. All they did was run and kick. They where old, Morgan and Repinoe should not have been on the team, and their age showed. Bad lineups, bad changes if any from the coach, NAH, not shocking at all.
I think the US man and women play exactly the same way.
This is simply the US standard, and th rest of the world is simply passing the US.
Bottom line. My daughter plays soccer here, and 90 percent of the coaches never played. It’s all pay for play. In the UK it’s free and the best move up.
“Kick it!” “Kick it!!!” That’s 95% of the parents screaming on the sidelines of a typical youth match in the US. That is the conception of the game here by the average parent…the ball is viewed as radioactive and must be belted away as fast as possible.
This is the environment that many players are exposed to…some get lucky end up with decent coaches, but many don’t. We have the quantity of players but have a serious issue with lack of qualified coaches.
@@Michael-cb5nm lol…… “kick it” …….you nailed it!!! So annoying.
@@j.f1692 Pub Football " Kick him ! Kick Him ! " :)
@Michael-cb5nm in the EU they aren't allowed within 5 meter of the sideline.
No mens team has won back to back titles since 1962. We are upset that our USWNT didnt three peat. In the 9 times this women's tournament has been held the USWNT has won 4 times. This is a historically dominate program and they will adjust. Stop holding Women to unrealistic standards.
USA should always be talked about as an international contender because of the money put into the youth ECNL programs. Politics is the only thing that can ruin it.
case study needs to be started how this womens head coach took over arguably the best team in the world and destroyed everything including the foundation it was built
Many good points made in these comments. I may add this:
The US has won 4 world cups (that should have really been 5, no one knows how they lost the 2011 final), because for more than 20 years, *NOBODY cared about the women’s game* . Just think that NORWAY has also won the World Cup!! Now, *some* countries, start to show *some* interest for the game and the US is already losing its grip. It’s inevitable. Imagine what will happen if Italy, Portugal, Croatia, Serbia, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Mexico, Uruguay etc start *really* investing money in the women’s game. All these teams will be added to England, Spain, France, Netherlands and Japan as potential US rivals. And what will happen then? At worst the team would be like China (1999 finalists), at best like Norway (1995 winners). Why? Because soccer culture in all these countries is 80 years *in front* of the US.
Just think about that: Portugal, a valiant but mediocre European team, in a country where not many people care about women’s soccer, with a decent but unknown coach (in a country that produces great men’s coaches by the dozens), totally tactically outplayed a much more talented US team and almost eliminated them.
US Soccer goes about the sport exactly like they do about volleyball, waterpolo or wrestling (based on the NCAA). Eventually, for soccer this WILL NEVER work. Not when your rivals come from the academies of FC Barcelona and in the future Santos, Flamengo, Roma, Ajax or Boca Juniors.
It’s that simple.
The world Dominance here is used with a violent connotation, there is no dominance in football there are tournaments and they are won by the best teams. Vlatko needs to go asap No doubt about it. With the Talent there is there is no excuse. However, a lot of big team have gone out the tournaments, Germany, Brazil, Canada, Italy, Argentina, are all out.
It’s a new world out there and they should not blame the USNWT for that. Other nations have the right to advance not just the Western ones.
I hate to say it but yeah 🥺😖
Sure they played better this last game but they don’t seem passion about it and I hated how they were celebrating after against Portugal. They need to reconstruct this team. Actually wants to play and out with the wokeness. Erts should of been midfielder instead of defense. New coach should be pointed out soon
Yes it is over. Rest of the world is now starting to care about women's soccer and our development system that relies on rich kids and pay to play will be unable to keep up.
Soon as everyone started taking it more serious and getting well paid pro leagues,the game was gonna swing towards the traditional football countries .
Nothing wrong with the end of dominance. THe problem is not focusing on the job at hand, and being more proud of equal pay than representing the country.
We can’t win every time can we? They need to regroup and other teams got much better it will never be the same
After the hiccup against the US now we're gonna get better and go all the way. You'll see. GO SWEDEN!
If we continue with Vlatko it will be the end. Our team is full to the brim with talent, they just need to placed in their proper positions. Ertz shouldn't be in the back, Sanchez shouldn't be on the bench the entire tournament, and Smith shouldn't be on the wing. Morgan has done great things but has been making great errors and cannot keep the same pace as the incoming forwards.
I'm pretty sure he's gone in the next few weeks.
Rapinoe shouldn’t have been picked, she’s old and woke and this reflected on the whole team. She shouldn’t have been given the captaincy. Did you see her post interview? Disgusting 🤢 🤮 At least they did break a record 🤣
@@jeromemanoharan7427 Hard disagree with everything you said. Don't bring a culture war into this.
@@bradenhazle4378 Sorry but it’s true. Look at what the media had said, and you can tell them the same thing you just said to me. Sad
@@jeromemanoharan7427 You shouldn't listen to the people on Fox bud lol.
Plus they injuries, Christen Press, Mallory Swanson, Beck Surubrook,
Rose Lavelle and more. And a bad coach.
The Soccer Federation and its board 'wise guys' don't care about anybody's opinion. They will keep Vlatko like they did with the mediocre Berthalter. And you people don't even mention these guys.Affraid? You have no clue where the problem is.
Here's something to think about. A team starts winning international games to the point where they are #1 in the world for years. Multiple Olympic and World cup wins. They get to a point where the nation looks at them as their representative for US soccer more than the Men's team. And they get to a point where they can negotiate their own contract that benefits them. It's different from the men's CBA, they get so many things that they wanted, in international play, they still don't make as much as the men. But it's their fault. They had a chance to make the same contract but refused. So they go on this agenda pushing campaign saying all the right stuff, taking it to court... and the court decides against them. But they still make a stink until USSF folds. And gives them more than the men. A lot more. The splitting of WC winnings was key because they knew they would make more not even paying than winning. So, the let the men fight as hard as they can, get the money, and figure, hey.. we don't have to do anything. And that's what they did. They chose an average team, not picking the best, holding over old, over the hill players for "inspiration and leadership" and play lack luster. Why? So they don't have to pony up their highest payoff for winning it all. The men just got paid about $900,00 for the women's finish, while the women got 6.5 mil. for the men's finsh last year. Coicindence?
Didn't US only win one game in the Olympics? Hmm. Pattern
Should have gone with your upset in your bracket...
appears the coach has a system he wants to play, and he doesnt have the players that fit that system. the team he built was extremely inflexible and full of one trick ponies up front. you need balance. putting all the best talent on the field together seems logical, if those players cant play off each other, its worthless.
look at the bench, look at the handful of players that didnt make the squad, any game changers there? the game changers were all injured sadly.
people should get off Pinoe. he puts her in there because shes nearly the GOAT at PKs. you dont need to be a full 90 player to bury PKs. she missed. it rarely happens. any coach would sub PInoe in for that moment.
Then in this case why not have had Alex Morgan take PK’s.
And he bought in Kelly O’Hara at the end of the game basically to take PK’s , what was that about? I don’t get it - from a fan’s perspective, because I’m not a coach of the game therefore it makes no sense to me.
@@mosijahi3096 ya KOH for PKs is a definite headscratcher. subbing Morgan out was questionable as well. i was fine with KMew, shes good at PKs.
Everybody keeps talking about the talent. I didn't see it, just a bunch of overpaid narcissists who would have lost to an average college team with that level of play.
PAY BACK IS NO FUN EH!!!!
Yes, this is the end. After all it is not a US invented sports. The only reason why the US dominated was that they took the womens league serious earlier.
Nope. It's time to heal
Let the woman speak you dorks
Unless the players go back to focusing on soccer and less on off the field issues they will be mediocre at best.
Will only be remembered as Un-American failures.
Bad coaching, not the team!
It was the coaching problem!
🐝 S
Maybe have more players under the age of 30 ?
Glad they lost. Most of them hate our country. They can leave starting with Rapinoe.
It always comes back to equal pay lol if us won this cup I would of been all for equal pay lol
Get a new coach immediately USSF! LET A NEW AMERICAN BORN WOMAN COACH TO REBUILT THIS TIME. 👈👍👏⚽🗽😁
Please no Ellis or Pia. Great American coach if there’s any. If not doesn’t say much of our soccer coaches.
Um, yeah, I'm totally blaming Rapinoe, Smith, and O'Hara's misses. They are professionals. These should have been made.
When was the last time you saw a men's WC team miss three PK's, two of which weren't even on goal?
@@joeym2859 Exactly, not even on frame. Embarassing
Get rid of all players recruit patriotic players no woke players
I love to watch women soccer because men soccer is too fast for me to process mentally. As a chess player, I watch the women games as a game of chess. USWNT players are practically 100% skillful to know where to move on the chess board. They need a Chess Grand Master, and Vlatko is a checker player. I recommended firing Vlatko in all my comments on CZcams, and got sharp replies. At last, Vlatko will be fired.
The team, as performed against Sweden, is still one of the best in the world. Removing the tumor Megan Rapinoe who has held Vlatko by the balls, it will be a new day for USWNT. The surgery is painful, but it WAS finally done. Go home and recover and I will be happy to see all of you in the next game. With Horan in front , singing our National Anthem.
Not necessarily. Overall, the level in many other countries went up significantly for many reasons and the game is and will be more competitive moving forward.
There are so many girls playing futbol all over this great country, that I assure you very soon we will have a world-class team winning like in the old days.
Sometimes is OK to loose. It brings humility.
Do not listen to DJT or any explayer throwing venom to our team. Love them!
We have quantity but not quality…pay to play promotes a very direct style of play from an early age because youth teams just want to win, and therefore kickball soccer wins the day. Players therefore do not develop technically as they should.
This is why the US couldn’t score at this tournament. They still are hard to break down defensively because our women are still superior athletically, but the days of just kicking the ball past the opponent and scoring are over.
We are going the way that the England men’s team did in the mid-twentieth century…from champs to chumps.
can y’all let the woman talk instead of three men over talking the only female on a panel about WOMENS sports