One of the most amazing survival stories was from the south tower. His group started going down right away and that staircase was one that was demolished from the impact. So his group went up. He said lots of people in the upper floors were going up, because the smoke was so bad inside the stairwell. They went up to the 80's and his co workers were just sitting on the stairs, even passing out. After about five minutes of sitting there, he decided to go inside the floor and try another stairwell. He picked the one that wasn't demolished and got all the way out. My point being a lot of people made the mistake of going up.
The idiot who gave the grave announcement, to tell people they need not evacuate the tower that got hit later, had a severe misunderstanding of events.
@@daniellim8964 well I think it’s important to remember that until the moment the second plane hit the South Tower, people thought it was just a freak accident with a small plane. The authorities were worried that a mass evacuation of the South Tower would clog up rescue efforts for the North Tower, or worse, evacuees would be hit by falling debris/people. obviously now we know that it would’ve been better to evacuate either way but hindsight is 20/20 and all
Yes Ron difrancesco. He was with Brian Clark. Ron went down with Brian at first to help the voice they heard on the 81st floor which was Stanley prainmath, but just couldn’t take the smoke so he went back up. Eventually as you said his co workers started to pass out and he decided to go back down and thankfully made it out. He is believed to be the last or one of the last people to make it out of the south tower before it collapsed
The conditions where probably very difficult, smart and brave of him to try another stairwelll though, unfortunately many didn't find it. Shame he didn't ask more people to follow him but then he probably though it was broken too.
The most chilling phone call was from Kevin Cosgrove. It is on You Tube. He was still on the phone with 9-11 begging for help when the tower collapsed. You can here him scream out as the collapse starts and then the phone line goes dead. He and two other guys were on 105
Yeah worst thing about that video apart from the fact he died, is he knew they were not coming "it doesn't feel like it". He knew the call handlers reassurances were empty. It wasn't their time , this wasn't meant to happen..but ... it did.
A firefighter did make it to the 78th floor of the south tower a few minutes before the collapse. I wonder what he could’ve done in those extra hours if he had it.
From known info, his final words supposedly mentioned something about not being able to see any possible living survivors. If the tower had not collapsed, there was probably not much he could do. Those who were near or above the impact zone were much less likely to make it through.
The heat and smoke above the impact zone was worse over time, an extra hour anyone would have succumbed to smoke inhalation or the heat with no way to descend, it was a slow death up there for those hanging on the best they can
There was a truck company a floor or two below him. So fire companies were getting there. They could have probably gotten the fires controlled enough to evacuate the floors above. In the north tower would be harder due to the interior collapse of the stairwell. From phone calls to 911 it seems the stairwells were blocked if this is the case the fire department with enough time could have maybe cleared enough of one stairwell to excavate people from above. All they need is to open and hold one stairwell to get people out. If you read the after action report that is what the FD plan was. They knew they couldn’t put out the fires, they figured there was localized interior collapse and thought they had 3-5 hours before the top of one of the towers fell off. They didn’t think a complete collapse would happen especially within the time frame it happened. The name of the game was save as many people as possible then let the fires burn out.
This situation was tested in the NIST report, which is available in the public domain. They theorised that the fires would most likely burn out relatively quickly and the structural steel would decrease in temperature, regain strength and probably not cause a total collapse. The visible fires in the North Tower were largely gone by the time it collapsed with the exception of floor 92. NIST excerpt; "In WTC 1, if the fires had been allowed to continue past the time of building collapse, complete burnout would have likely occurred within a short time since the fires had already traversed around the entire floor, and most of the combustibles would have already been consumed."
@@laurendifilippo3666You probably wont find much until around 2027. The investigation into Khalid will expire. An extended invesitgation was granted but expires in 2027. This means a LOT of footage, which has seemingly been wiped from the internet, including the infamous “lol superman” will be available to the public.
A video about Edna Cintron the women that was pictured standing on the broken beams in the impact zone of the north tower would be interesting, its crazy to imagine how she must have felt looking down standing right on the edge, waving for help.
@@CadeWasHere6207 i know that and i know about the controversy, there are videos about some topics ginger talks about too, but i just want to hear his opinion about the waving woman or as many are sure Edna Cintron
That skinny part of the tower you talk about possibly not being able to climb pass is the mechanical floor. If the climber made it there, he'd have an open air walkway to climb onto and possibly be able to enter the building and reach a stair case.
@@sodiumvapor13yes, they were like open aired terraces. I used to work in a 40 story tower and our mech floors were very similar. Totally possible to climb into. The ledges were like balconies. 100% possible to enter the floor from the exterior facade.
I’ve read an article (don’t remember the title) discussing the FDNY on 9/11 and one of the key things that stood out to me was what one firefighter in the article said regarding what happened if the towers stayed up longer. Essentially, and I’m paraphrasing for the most part, the firefighter said that had the towers been standing for several more hours, there would’ve been a few thousand to about 5 thousand firefighters in the towers. Now just imagine the casualties for the FDNY had that been the case and the towers collapsed! (If anyone is familiar with said article, please give a link to it in the comments. Thanks!)
I was thinking after several hours, the fires would run out of material to burn, slowly dying. Then maybe FDNY can put out some of the fire, not necessarily all of it. And FDNY did carry hoses up the stairwells, they would have to connect them to a standpipe below the impact zone to get water on the fires. Also, where the steel beams narrow from three into one is 3-4 floors above the ground, so if someone slid down the columns, they may be able to jump 3-4 floors to the ground (better than 90+, obviously) and make sure to land feet first-a big maybe thou
@@alexlovelock4648 Even if they would connect many hoses up high, I don't think they had strong enough water pumps that would have enough power to pomp up such an immense weight of column of water, let's say to the 80th floor.
If you read the after action report in short they say they couldn’t fight the fires their plan was open and hold one stairwell to get people out then let the fires burn out.
2:58 about your comment on the sound wave knocking him down, I'd argue it was more the shock wave that got him! You can see the smoke on coming from the north tower puff and warp dramatically the instant that explosion occurred in the south tower. Hell it even caused the fires to flare up a bit! Not only that, shock waves in general tend to travel faster than sound, so it would've won that race to him.
People trapped on the North Tower's upper floors made a large number of 911 and other calls for a while following the impact. By the time the tower finally fell, the calls had almost entirely ceased, evidently because most of the trapped people had already died.
One of the creepiest thing first responders to the Pause nightclub shooting reported was it was basically a chorus of cellphones ringing until the batteries died.
*If I was trapped in that upper area and had no way of surviving, I would have breathed in as much of that acrid, asbestos chemical smoke as possible and did so until I passed out. I'd much rather that than to burn alive or be forced out a window as the people behind were pushing so hard to get to a window to get fresh air. There were no jumpers, those people were pushed out from people behind frantically pushing to get to the window to breathe some fresh air. They clearly didn't jump, they were forced out from desperate people behind trying to breathe. No sane person would jump knowing there's zero chance of survival. They were pushed out from behind 💯%*
The most chilling phone call was from Kevin Cosgrove. It is on You Tube. He was on the phone with 9-11 begging for help when the tower collapsed. You can here him scream out as the collapse starts and then the phone line goes dead. He and two other guys were on 105
They would be a career in motivational speaking for the person who scaled down the outside and survived. They'd get military honors as a civilian if they managed to help anyone else escape like that
Great video as usual. Thumbs up. Btw i would love a video on Orio Palmer. It is so great and heroic. Although i dont know of there is anough information for an entire video. But it makes me feel so amazed and happy when i hear how many true life heroes this tragedy brought to the surface. But that guy was amazing. Like many others.
More people could have escaped but depending on each tower, if you’re above the impact zone it was near impossible to escape. Especially for the North Tower.
Can you imagine if the man who scaled the North tower actually reached the ground? He’d make millions off of the story, but the survivor’s guilt would have been insane.
@@trickolas78 Think about it, they’d probably make a movie about him, he could write a bestselling book. Wouldn’t you want to get a chance to hear a firsthand account?
Survivor's guilt??! If he'd achieved this, he could legitimately feel like a king for the rest of his life. It would have been one of the biggest exploit ever accomplished by a human....
@@goobi3780 It's useless to say this situation was unreal and beyond catastrophic and desperate. For people above the impact zone in the North tower, there was absolute no chance of survival, except trying this almost impossible descent on the facade. Of course, impossible to take someone on your shoulders while doing this (!) You may feel guilty if you escape by the stairs, hear someone crying for help but give him no rescue because you're too scary for example, when you think you could have perhaps saved someone ; not in this case.
I'm amazed those in north tower top section could not break the door to the roof. it must have been extremely strong, I always think roof access should be made easy in an emergency. If south tower hadn't collapsed so soon I believe a helicopter rescue would have been attempted. They would not have ignored people waving from the rooftop.
To exit my building, you have to press a button on the wall to release the door. You could kick and kick for hours but there is no getting that door open without pressing that button. Same as in the tower. Plus after the '93 bombing, there were fears that a helicopter with explosives could land on the roof so they purposely added obstructions to prevent easy landing.
Chief Oreo Palmer had other fire crew just afew floors below him on their way up. They likely would have been able to save many. In the North Tower Fire crews probably would have managed to somehow get into the impact area and could have helped any survivors found. However nobody was going to get to those trapped above the impact floors of the North Tower for many hours let alone 3!
Love your 911 videos. I'm happy to see young people CARING and telling the story. I was 10 years old. I remember clearly. I've been fascinated ever since. I watch all the docs every year. Do you know where I can find the photos that weren't meant to be public? The graphic, difficult stuff? Yes I am sure, I've seen similar images. I'm not very competent with the Internet so this may sound stupid, should I get a reddit acct? Can I find the images there?
The problem with central core being damaged is that the stairs would be damaged as well, therefore, even if the towers had stayed standing for three hours, it would have been nearly impossible for the firefighters to reach any survivors from below the impact zones, they would have had to have cone down from the top of the building.
One of the things I thought of many years back was, "how did the collapse of the south tower compromise the north tower?" - by which I mean, the south tower collapse must have been equivalent in force to a small earthquake: how much would that have damaged the foundations of the north tower? I don't mean the north tower would have survived minus that force, but that it MIGHT have delayed that second collapse for a while longer.
An eyewitness from the bottom of the impact zone in the North tower said they looked up and saw the stairwell was completely plugged with debris. I thought the scale or jump but now I imagine several stories of rubble. Would need days to get passed with teams.
Have you ever thought about breaking down footage? Especially things like plane impact footage, collapse, and, in my personal opinion the sort of holy grail, lobby footage! If done correctly I think that could be a good tool to educate on the subject of 9/11. Especially if you include stories relating to that footage and point out key details and frames! Though, youtube might throw a fit and kill off your cash flow :/
Former Boeing Everett.... Those airplanes were built in our Plant. When the planes hit Twin Towers and Pentagon, they were obliterated into tiny pieces. All had FULL Fuel Loads because they were going across Country to West Coast Cites. As the Fuel mixed with Air, it became explosive and acted like a Thermobaric AFB (Air Fuel Bomb). As the Oxygen was used up, it became Fuel Rich / Oxidizer Lean. The bright fireball exiting far side of Buildings was partially due to this effect. Outside, there was lots of Oxygen and most of Fuel then burned before traveling far. There was still tons of blazing Jet Fuel that went down Elevator Shafts. People floors down were killed or badly burned by this. The Massive Impact and Internal Explosion knocked Insulation off Structural Steel and destroying Fire Sprinkler Systems. As temperatures rose, it caused Steel to lose over half of it's strength. Once Progressive Failure started, there was no stopping resulting in complete collapse.
@@trickolas78 Thanks for the chuckle... based on lack of anything on your profile including a real name, profile photo, background, education, subscribers, or even any content... guess that makes you an expert in Tiki Travel... I have 3 advanced degrees and almost done on 4th. I studied Engineering and Architecture. I was a SME (subject matter expert) at Boeing in several critical systems including Lean Manufacturing. I started at Boeing Everett where we make those planes in world's biggest plant. Been to more than 1 plant and spent time in St Louis with F/A-18's and F-15's that required classified clearance. Been in the cockpits of many Boeing aircraft. Guess that makes me more of an expert than you... thanks again... cheers mate.
@@trickolas78he also built 3 of the 2 Twin Towers on the weekends as well. Heard he also invented the SDF-1 (Super Defense Fortress) when he was only 7 years old. Busy guy 😂
@@South_0f_Heaven_ LOL says the guy with fake profile who loves beating up crickets and hamsters, has exactly 1 video, 5 subscribers, nothing else... yup that is really a hill... thanks for chuckle. Now tell me about aircraft, structural steel, and FAB's... cheers mate
Allegedly I've heard that right before the south tower fell, NYPD or FDNY personal going up reported people coming down from the higher floors. Some that chose to go up to try and get to the roof had changed there minds and managed to make it down to 20th-30th floors. If only the tower stayed up longer.
If you had 3 hours you could have the fire fighters build a bridge from rhe south tower to the north then people could escape that way.... it would be a lot of would and rope but with 3 hours it might be possible to just transfer people
What if they never fell, wonder if anyone trapped in the North tower could have survived then? I suppose it would have been impossible that they never fell though considering how the towers where structured.
@@jonathanlandau-litewski7405 It was predicted that over 4,000 would have died if that plot succeeded. Chicago would've been a part of the stage II attack with the bombings on the connecting flights. Apparently at one point during the planning for stage III there were gonna be 8-10 hijacked planes and the Sears Tower likely would've been a target if their original plan had come to fruition.
New video, if the wings or half the plane hit the tower and the rest of the debris flew across midtown. Fire everywhere. Or if one of the planes hit the Statue of Liberty
100% disagree on this what if. Regardless of collapse or not, smoke did the most killing after the initial impact. Having the longer window may have potentially saved a couple people, but most wouldnt. But the bigger impact would have been more rescue personnel on scene climbing both towers. With 3 hours, even more firefighters from outside jurisdictions would have made it to assist in rescue. Even if no more entered the building, (although i would think considerably more would have) the amount at the base being killed by the collapse would have been significantly higher.
Whatever the scenario, the South Tower was doomed. The debate, and the biggest “if” is whether the north tower could have survived had flight 11 hit several floors above the impact zone.
You are really obsessed with the Towers. It's interesting stuff you propose. Are there any aspects of 9/11 that smell fishy to you or are you 100% not buying any of the conspiracy shit?
Do some research instead of depending on the corrupt Government sponsored media. He is trying to open people's minds instead of them being media sheeple.
It still bothers me to this day that these towers collapsed. They should’ve been built stronger. While it’s true that nobody could have predicted what was going to happen, it should have been somewhat obvious that the thin clips used to hold the floor Deirdre’s in place were highly vulnerable to high temperatures and could fail if an entire floor was on fire. It’s doubtful that they ever took into consideration that the fire main, which fed water to the sprinklers, could have been cut, eliminating the sprinklers altogether. Has they encased the cores of these buildings in thick concrete, as well as completely filled in the hollow box beams going up the sides of the two buildings with high strength concrete, they probably would have remained standing. For some reason, making the building lighter in weight was a misguided priority that served no legitimate purpose. A stronger building is always going to be better than a weaker building. You couldn’t give me one of those mega-million dollar condos in those ridiculous skinny buildings.
Nice job, as always, man! Something I’ve wondered is, why the Supreme Court building was not targeted. Bin Laden wanted both the Capitol and White House hit, though we’re still not completely sure about which one UA93 was heading for. But how about it? What if Al-Qaeda had six planes that day, one each for the Twin Towers, one for the Pentagon, and one each for all three of the lead buildings of our three branches of government?
""Hey guys. Today, I'm going to talk about what if the Twin Towers were Transformers and they had transformed out of their stationary building configuration, and into their battle bot configuration just as the planes were approaching. Would the buildings still get destroyed, or Could the Transformers have possibly maybe caught the planes and eliminated them?""
I want to know why there were so many pieces of paper blowing all over the ground. I get an office has paperwork but that seems like so much paper. Is it even all just papers? What did the paper work say?
A question that sticks with me is... why didn't they have a giant net or inflatable thing for jumpers... I mean, there should be something like that that exists... right?
*The only video I've seen of a guy trying to scale down,gets about half a floor before slipping and plummeting to his death. His slippery work shoes wouldn't have helped him at all. It would have been slippery like he was wearing just socks. I've never ever seen a video where a man scales 1O-2O floors, shimmying down, with his back on one side of wall and feet on the other wall then falls because of the shock of the other tower falling. If he made it 2O floors,he could have got inside one of the open mechanical floors and found a way down below the impact zone. I honestly think you are talking out of your rear about a man scaling down 2O floors, and I seriously doubt any of those office working men would have had the strength to do that,you know how much strength and stamina needed you would need to do that successfully for even 1-2 floors, let alone 1O-2O floors. Impossible, even if your will to live is strong. If it was stone or rock they could shimmy down,it might have been possible,but smooth shiny steel between the windows to try grip with your feet and back with slippery office shoes is impossible. Stop making up stories that never happened.💯%*
Well they wouldn't have known how long the towers would have lasted at the time - there would have been no difference to what was known before 9.59 am that day.
the reason why the only footage of the plane hitting the pentagon lookssloppy and the only frame of the aitcraft looks like a missile is because the camera was fisheyed lense if you undistort using fisheye lens distortion then you have a clearer angle of a shape representing a 757
*If the towers stayed erect for another 3 hours, so many more firefighters and Police would have died because they would have thought the towers aren't falling let's stupidly go in and get to the floor that's impassable,then do nothing. There was no way they were ever going to extinguish those fires. Each floor has an acre of floor space on fire, times that by 2O, and you have 2O acres of raging inferno that was never going to be extinguished or burn out. It had enough materials in the towers to burn for months. Even if they used water bomber aircraft from above, those fires we're never getting put out. I've never understood why they sent so many firefighters in to the towers. It was such a stupid decision and a certain death sentence. They should have known better that even if they got to the impact zone, there was nothing they could do. Absolute stupidity sending those Men in for a certain death sentence.💯%*
That’s easy to say with hindsight but at the time it would have been impossible to know the extent of the fires raging inside. This was an event that had never occurred before in human history!!
@@JFK-ir7yz thermite isnt often used in controlled demolitions, but if they were in the world trade center then the beams would actually melt, thermite itself may not be able to do that but nano thermite claims to do that and really can not be taken seriously, there isnt any evidence of steel beams being melted but rather being softend, they really dont need to melt
@@JFK-ir7yz yeah i do know what thermite is, its not even often used in controlled demoltiions and definitely not the size of the world trade center complex, im pretty sure normal thermite cant even burn through a normal car but nano thermite (im sure thats the one your talking about) burns faster and apparently is stronger, it would have melted the steel beams, but there is no evidence of that happening
I feel like it would be difficult for an architect to give you that assessment about collapse time. They would have to have detailed knowledge about the damage of all structural components.
It would be possible for helicopters to carry hundreds of climber ropes and throw them to those above the impact zone to climb down with the ropes to the floors below the impact.
Read Elana Freeland. Understand the type of weapons used. The buildings were not taking into account such things. I wonder about the aeroplanes cock and bull. We know about Bell Art programs, and the used of Jumps and Chronovision. This surprised nobody of the folks in the Know.
Are you 11? It's good to be interested in history. It was a terrible day, a fixed point in time. I worked in a high rise by LAX and we thought other planes were coming. It's easy to get too into 9/11. I try to keep it to once a year, but here I am. Always get out if you think something is wrong.
Maybe, if they'd stayed standing longer, they could've landed helicopters on the roofs & get the doors unlocked to get to any folks still surviving in the upper floors?
If the government didn’t want to rush in a technological age, we wouldn’t have lost 3000 people. Anyone old enough before this happened should understand what I’m saying. Everything changed this day.
If it stays up for 3 hours you’re supposed to see a doctor ASAP
WOW
Lmfao
Oh my god 😂😂
Wow just straight up like that
Mine wont stay up for 3 seconds so I should also see a doctor.
One of the most amazing survival stories was from the south tower. His group started going down right away and that staircase was one that was demolished from the impact. So his group went up. He said lots of people in the upper floors were going up, because the smoke was so bad inside the stairwell. They went up to the 80's and his co workers were just sitting on the stairs, even passing out. After about five minutes of sitting there, he decided to go inside the floor and try another stairwell. He picked the one that wasn't demolished and got all the way out. My point being a lot of people made the mistake of going up.
The idiot who gave the grave announcement, to tell people they need not evacuate the tower that got hit later, had a severe misunderstanding of events.
@@daniellim8964 well I think it’s important to remember that until the moment the second plane hit the South Tower, people thought it was just a freak accident with a small plane. The authorities were worried that a mass evacuation of the South Tower would clog up rescue efforts for the North Tower, or worse, evacuees would be hit by falling debris/people. obviously now we know that it would’ve been better to evacuate either way but hindsight is 20/20 and all
With fire, always go down. Think of being in a chimney. Where does the smoke go? Up. RIP to the man scaling down the outside.
Yes Ron difrancesco. He was with Brian Clark. Ron went down with Brian at first to help the voice they heard on the 81st floor which was Stanley prainmath, but just couldn’t take the smoke so he went back up. Eventually as you said his co workers started to pass out and he decided to go back down and thankfully made it out. He is believed to be the last or one of the last people to make it out of the south tower before it collapsed
The conditions where probably very difficult, smart and brave of him to try another stairwelll though, unfortunately many didn't find it. Shame he didn't ask more people to follow him but then he probably though it was broken too.
The most chilling phone call was from Kevin Cosgrove. It is on You Tube. He was still on the phone with 9-11 begging for help when the tower collapsed. You can here him scream out as the collapse starts and then the phone line goes dead. He and two other guys were on 105
It's heartbreaking, difficult to listen to, you can hear the fear.
Agree. Kevin’s on my mind so much.
Yeah worst thing about that video apart from the fact he died, is he knew they were not coming "it doesn't feel like it". He knew the call handlers reassurances were empty. It wasn't their time , this wasn't meant to happen..but ... it did.
A firefighter did make it to the 78th floor of the south tower a few minutes before the collapse. I wonder what he could’ve done in those extra hours if he had it.
I believe that was Oreo Palmer
From known info, his final words supposedly mentioned something about not being able to see any possible living survivors.
If the tower had not collapsed, there was probably not much he could do. Those who were near or above the impact zone were much less likely to make it through.
The heat and smoke above the impact zone was worse over time, an extra hour anyone would have succumbed to smoke inhalation or the heat with no way to descend, it was a slow death up there for those hanging on the best they can
There was a truck company a floor or two below him. So fire companies were getting there. They could have probably gotten the fires controlled enough to evacuate the floors above. In the north tower would be harder due to the interior collapse of the stairwell. From phone calls to 911 it seems the stairwells were blocked if this is the case the fire department with enough time could have maybe cleared enough of one stairwell to excavate people from above. All they need is to open and hold one stairwell to get people out. If you read the after action report that is what the FD plan was. They knew they couldn’t put out the fires, they figured there was localized interior collapse and thought they had 3-5 hours before the top of one of the towers fell off. They didn’t think a complete collapse would happen especially within the time frame it happened. The name of the game was save as many people as possible then let the fires burn out.
Take one person down?
This situation was tested in the NIST report, which is available in the public domain. They theorised that the fires would most likely burn out relatively quickly and the structural steel would decrease in temperature, regain strength and probably not cause a total collapse. The visible fires in the North Tower were largely gone by the time it collapsed with the exception of floor 92.
NIST excerpt;
"In WTC 1, if the fires had been allowed to continue past the time of building collapse, complete burnout would have likely occurred within a short time since the fires had already traversed around the entire floor, and most of the combustibles would have already been consumed."
So basically it suffocates itself out
I have been binge-watching 9/11 jumpers and I cannot sleep anymore. I am traumatized.
I’ve been trying to find some new footage but no luck if you have any tag me please
Its a very traumatizing and damaging experience to see those photos and videos but for some reason I am unable to look away once I see it...
@@laurendifilippo3666You probably wont find much until around 2027. The investigation into Khalid will expire. An extended invesitgation was granted but expires in 2027. This means a LOT of footage, which has seemingly been wiped from the internet, including the infamous “lol superman” will be available to the public.
If you weren't that'd be cause for concern.
Have you seen "Falling Man?"
better go get that ptsd disability check buddy!
Always been grimly fascinated by 9/11 and the horror and heroism of the day. Thanks for these videos.
A video about Edna Cintron the women that was pictured standing on the broken beams in the impact zone of the north tower would be interesting, its crazy to imagine how she must have felt looking down standing right on the edge, waving for help.
She should just be called "the waving woman", because it isn't confirmed to be Edna Cintron. It could have also been Jeanette LaFond-Menichino.
@@mylife1221no it's Edna
There is a video on CZcams already about her. It’s called “The Waving Woman”. It’s a good watch.
@@CadeWasHere6207 i know that and i know about the controversy, there are videos about some topics ginger talks about too, but i just want to hear his opinion about the waving woman or as many are sure Edna Cintron
@@posticusmaximus1739 The evidence says it could be otherwise. We shouldn't assume her identity if it's not fully known.
That skinny part of the tower you talk about possibly not being able to climb pass is the mechanical floor. If the climber made it there, he'd have an open air walkway to climb onto and possibly be able to enter the building and reach a stair case.
Were the mech floors really open to the air like that?
@@sodiumvapor13yes, they were like open aired terraces. I used to work in a 40 story tower and our mech floors were very similar. Totally possible to climb into. The ledges were like balconies. 100% possible to enter the floor from the exterior facade.
I’ve read an article (don’t remember the title) discussing the FDNY on 9/11 and one of the key things that stood out to me was what one firefighter in the article said regarding what happened if the towers stayed up longer. Essentially, and I’m paraphrasing for the most part, the firefighter said that had the towers been standing for several more hours, there would’ve been a few thousand to about 5 thousand firefighters in the towers. Now just imagine the casualties for the FDNY had that been the case and the towers collapsed! (If anyone is familiar with said article, please give a link to it in the comments. Thanks!)
I was thinking after several hours, the fires would run out of material to burn, slowly dying. Then maybe FDNY can put out some of the fire, not necessarily all of it. And FDNY did carry hoses up the stairwells, they would have to connect them to a standpipe below the impact zone to get water on the fires. Also, where the steel beams narrow from three into one is 3-4 floors above the ground, so if someone slid down the columns, they may be able to jump 3-4 floors to the ground (better than 90+, obviously) and make sure to land feet first-a big maybe thou
@@alexlovelock4648 Even if they would connect many hoses up high, I don't think they had strong enough water pumps that would have enough power to pomp up such an immense weight of column of water, let's say to the 80th floor.
If you read the after action report in short they say they couldn’t fight the fires their plan was open and hold one stairwell to get people out then let the fires burn out.
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2:58 about your comment on the sound wave knocking him down, I'd argue it was more the shock wave that got him! You can see the smoke on coming from the north tower puff and warp dramatically the instant that explosion occurred in the south tower. Hell it even caused the fires to flare up a bit! Not only that, shock waves in general tend to travel faster than sound, so it would've won that race to him.
It would be like trying hold on during an earthquake. Shaking on ground and the tower.
Video suggestion: What if the planes hit lower on the towers?
Spoiler alert, more people would've died
Follow up question: what if the planes hit higher, 100 - 110th floor. Both towers
@@posticusmaximus1739if it did, then it would stay up longer and have a lesser chance of collapsing.
I heard instead of collapsing, the Towers would have tipped over.
The lower you went they would’ve toppled over not downward.
I love the enthusiasm and work going into these alternative universe theories that have been going for such a long time now, great story telling
People trapped on the North Tower's upper floors made a large number of 911 and other calls for a while following the impact. By the time the tower finally fell, the calls had almost entirely ceased, evidently because most of the trapped people had already died.
One of the creepiest thing first responders to the Pause nightclub shooting reported was it was basically a chorus of cellphones ringing until the batteries died.
We like to do these what ifs isolating one factor (the towers staying up despite the same amount of heat and smoke) but
*If I was trapped in that upper area and had no way of surviving, I would have breathed in as much of that acrid, asbestos chemical smoke as possible and did so until I passed out. I'd much rather that than to burn alive or be forced out a window as the people behind were pushing so hard to get to a window to get fresh air. There were no jumpers, those people were pushed out from people behind frantically pushing to get to the window to breathe some fresh air. They clearly didn't jump, they were forced out from desperate people behind trying to breathe. No sane person would jump knowing there's zero chance of survival. They were pushed out from behind 💯%*
Maybe its not because they are died but because what sense to call anymore, everyone 100 percent knew what happened at that moment
The most chilling phone call was from Kevin Cosgrove. It is on You Tube. He was on the phone with 9-11 begging for help when the tower collapsed. You can here him scream out as the collapse starts and then the phone line goes dead. He and two other guys were on 105
They would be a career in motivational speaking for the person who scaled down the outside and survived. They'd get military honors as a civilian if they managed to help anyone else escape like that
Great video as usual. Thumbs up. Btw i would love a video on Orio Palmer. It is so great and heroic. Although i dont know of there is anough information for an entire video. But it makes me feel so amazed and happy when i hear how many true life heroes this tragedy brought to the surface. But that guy was amazing. Like many others.
More people could have escaped but depending on each tower, if you’re above the impact zone it was near impossible to escape. Especially for the North Tower.
Can you imagine if the man who scaled the North tower actually reached the ground? He’d make millions off of the story, but the survivor’s guilt would have been insane.
Whats it to you how much he would profit from it?
@@trickolas78 Think about it, they’d probably make a movie about him, he could write a bestselling book. Wouldn’t you want to get a chance to hear a firsthand account?
Survivor's guilt??! If he'd achieved this, he could legitimately feel like a king for the rest of his life.
It would have been one of the biggest exploit ever accomplished by a human....
@@fitzcaraldozito I mean if all of my friends and colleagues died, and I left them behind I’d feel guilty
@@goobi3780 It's useless to say this situation was unreal and beyond catastrophic and desperate.
For people above the impact zone in the North tower, there was absolute no chance of survival, except trying this almost impossible descent on the facade.
Of course, impossible to take someone on your shoulders while doing this (!)
You may feel guilty if you escape by the stairs, hear someone crying for help but give him no rescue because you're too scary for example, when you think you could have perhaps saved someone ; not in this case.
I'm amazed those in north tower top section could not break the door to the roof. it must have been extremely strong, I always think roof access should be made easy in an emergency. If south tower hadn't collapsed so soon I believe a helicopter rescue would have been attempted. They would not have ignored people waving from the rooftop.
Yeah they attempted to do that, but no one was on the roof and the black smoke was blinding and suffocating, it would have been nearly impossible.
To exit my building, you have to press a button on the wall to release the door. You could kick and kick for hours but there is no getting that door open without pressing that button. Same as in the tower. Plus after the '93 bombing, there were fears that a helicopter with explosives could land on the roof so they purposely added obstructions to prevent easy landing.
It's amazing that those towers managed to stay up as long as they did with all the damage
Chief Oreo Palmer had other fire crew just afew floors below him on their way up. They likely would have been able to save many. In the North Tower Fire crews probably would have managed to somehow get into the impact area and could have helped any survivors found. However nobody was going to get to those trapped above the impact floors of the North Tower for many hours let alone 3!
Please make a video somewhere of the time when only the north tower stood! I have been researching that myself.
Love your 911 videos. I'm happy to see young people CARING and telling the story. I was 10 years old. I remember clearly. I've been fascinated ever since. I watch all the docs every year. Do you know where I can find the photos that weren't meant to be public? The graphic, difficult stuff? Yes I am sure, I've seen similar images. I'm not very competent with the Internet so this may sound stupid, should I get a reddit acct? Can I find the images there?
This is wild. You're posting this while I'm stuck in the social media algorithm of 9/11.
The problem with central core being damaged is that the stairs would be damaged as well, therefore, even if the towers had stayed standing for three hours, it would have been nearly impossible for the firefighters to reach any survivors from below the impact zones, they would have had to have cone down from the top of the building.
Unfortunately I’m sure that most of those people had slippery dress shoes on..
One of the things I thought of many years back was, "how did the collapse of the south tower compromise the north tower?" - by which I mean, the south tower collapse must have been equivalent in force to a small earthquake: how much would that have damaged the foundations of the north tower? I don't mean the north tower would have survived minus that force, but that it MIGHT have delayed that second collapse for a while longer.
The foundation in that part of the North Tower was surely stronger after its reinforcement. That corner of the tower was targeted in the 1993 bombing.
If that happens, then it will be possible for boms
More and more jumpers would’ve kept falling if the building never came down
An eyewitness from the bottom of the impact zone in the North tower said they looked up and saw the stairwell was completely plugged with debris. I thought the scale or jump but now I imagine several stories of rubble. Would need days to get passed with teams.
I found the picture he's talking about on Google. The North Tower is still standing with the smoke almost clear from the South Tower collapse.
Have you ever thought about breaking down footage? Especially things like plane impact footage, collapse, and, in my personal opinion the sort of holy grail, lobby footage! If done correctly I think that could be a good tool to educate on the subject of 9/11. Especially if you include stories relating to that footage and point out key details and frames! Though, youtube might throw a fit and kill off your cash flow :/
Yep, the videos would get demonized
Video idea: What if the towers toppled over instead of collapsing
The way the plane hit so far up the building is Impossible for it to topped over
What if the planes hit the bottom of the towers instead of the top?
Former Boeing Everett.... Those airplanes were built in our Plant. When the planes hit Twin Towers and Pentagon, they were obliterated into tiny pieces. All had FULL Fuel Loads because they were going across Country to West Coast Cites. As the Fuel mixed with Air, it became explosive and acted like a Thermobaric AFB (Air Fuel Bomb).
As the Oxygen was used up, it became Fuel Rich / Oxidizer Lean. The bright fireball exiting far side of Buildings was partially due to this effect. Outside, there was lots of Oxygen and most of Fuel then burned before traveling far. There was still tons of blazing Jet Fuel that went down Elevator Shafts. People floors down were killed or badly burned by this.
The Massive Impact and Internal Explosion knocked Insulation off Structural Steel and destroying Fire Sprinkler Systems. As temperatures rose, it caused Steel to lose over half of it's strength. Once Progressive Failure started, there was no stopping resulting in complete collapse.
You ratcheted some bolts which makes you an expert in fuel chemistry 😂
@@trickolas78 Thanks for the chuckle... based on lack of anything on your profile including a real name, profile photo, background, education, subscribers, or even any content... guess that makes you an expert in Tiki Travel... I have 3 advanced degrees and almost done on 4th. I studied Engineering and Architecture. I was a SME (subject matter expert) at Boeing in several critical systems including Lean Manufacturing. I started at Boeing Everett where we make those planes in world's biggest plant. Been to more than 1 plant and spent time in St Louis with F/A-18's and F-15's that required classified clearance. Been in the cockpits of many Boeing aircraft. Guess that makes me more of an expert than you... thanks again... cheers mate.
@@SJR_Media_GroupSure you do bud. 😂😂😂
@@trickolas78he also built 3 of the 2 Twin Towers on the weekends as well.
Heard he also invented the SDF-1 (Super Defense Fortress) when he was only 7 years old.
Busy guy 😂
@@South_0f_Heaven_ LOL says the guy with fake profile who loves beating up crickets and hamsters, has exactly 1 video, 5 subscribers, nothing else... yup that is really a hill... thanks for chuckle. Now tell me about aircraft, structural steel, and FAB's... cheers mate
the cattening
There would STILL be some people who remained in the building.
Question: the earthquake sensors pick up the vibrations of the falls? If Taylor Swift can cause an earthquake....
Allegedly I've heard that right before the south tower fell, NYPD or FDNY personal going up reported people coming down from the higher floors. Some that chose to go up to try and get to the roof had changed there minds and managed to make it down to 20th-30th floors. If only the tower stayed up longer.
Make a video what if the firefighters inside the twin towers jumped onto the next stairway
If you had 3 hours you could have the fire fighters build a bridge from rhe south tower to the north then people could escape that way.... it would be a lot of would and rope but with 3 hours it might be possible to just transfer people
What if they never fell, wonder if anyone trapped in the North tower could have survived then? I suppose it would have been impossible that they never fell though considering how the towers where structured.
Video idea: what if the Sears Tower got hit that day
Have you read about the Bojinka Terrorist Plot?
@@jonathanlandau-litewski7405 It was predicted that over 4,000 would have died if that plot succeeded. Chicago would've been a part of the stage II attack with the bombings on the connecting flights. Apparently at one point during the planning for stage III there were gonna be 8-10 hijacked planes and the Sears Tower likely would've been a target if their original plan had come to fruition.
How many people were actually able to escape the tower ? And why so much censorship on this event
New video, if the wings or half the plane hit the tower and the rest of the debris flew across midtown. Fire everywhere.
Or if one of the planes hit the Statue of Liberty
What if a giant robot Michael Jackson helped hold them up?
Not sure if he could have done it but Voltron definitely could.
I urge everyone to do your own homework as to who the actual culprits for this event were
What if the north tower survived the attacks
What if they were made out of concrete?
100% disagree on this what if. Regardless of collapse or not, smoke did the most killing after the initial impact. Having the longer window may have potentially saved a couple people, but most wouldnt. But the bigger impact would have been more rescue personnel on scene climbing both towers. With 3 hours, even more firefighters from outside jurisdictions would have made it to assist in rescue. Even if no more entered the building, (although i would think considerably more would have) the amount at the base being killed by the collapse would have been significantly higher.
Do a What if they were three towers instead of two next
What if there were 5?
What if the towers were actually made of pancakes
Imagine if there was a whole complex with 7 towers
Whatever the scenario, the South Tower was doomed.
The debate, and the biggest “if” is whether the north tower could have survived had flight 11 hit several floors above the impact zone.
You are really obsessed with the Towers. It's interesting stuff you propose. Are there any aspects of 9/11 that smell fishy to you or are you 100% not buying any of the conspiracy shit?
Do some research instead of depending on the corrupt Government sponsored media. He is trying to open people's minds instead of them being media sheeple.
Alternative title: if Larry Silverstein didn't demolished the buildings until 1pm
You tomorrow: ☠ (you knew too much)
@@Mere-Lachaiselongue look up September 11 -- the new pearl harbor (full movie) it explains all about it
sure buddy@@Mere-Lachaiselongue
@@Mere-Lachaiselongue i believe that the fbi assassinated mlk but im still alive, then yall say that you arent paranoid
Not sure if serious.
It still bothers me to this day that these towers collapsed. They should’ve been built stronger. While it’s true that nobody could have predicted what was going to happen, it should have been somewhat obvious that the thin clips used to hold the floor Deirdre’s in place were highly vulnerable to high temperatures and could fail if an entire floor was on fire. It’s doubtful that they ever took into consideration that the fire main, which fed water to the sprinklers, could have been cut, eliminating the sprinklers altogether. Has they encased the cores of these buildings in thick concrete, as well as completely filled in the hollow box beams going up the sides of the two buildings with high strength concrete, they probably would have remained standing. For some reason, making the building lighter in weight was a misguided priority that served no legitimate purpose. A stronger building is always going to be better than a weaker building. You couldn’t give me one of those mega-million dollar condos in those ridiculous skinny buildings.
Story suggestion ; What if the twin towers were only 5 stories tall upon completion?
Did bombs destroy it
Nice job, as always, man! Something I’ve wondered is, why the Supreme Court building was not targeted. Bin Laden wanted both the Capitol and White House hit, though we’re still not completely sure about which one UA93 was heading for. But how about it? What if Al-Qaeda had six planes that day, one each for the Twin Towers, one for the Pentagon, and one each for all three of the lead buildings of our three branches of government?
In two months he's going to make a video titled "What if the Twin Towers were stuck 3 hours later"
It was Bombs
What if there were two birds on top of tower 2 when the plane hit 🤔
This could potentially change society as we know it
""Hey guys. Today, I'm going to talk about what if the Twin Towers were Transformers and they had transformed out of their stationary building configuration, and into their battle bot configuration just as the planes were approaching. Would the buildings still get destroyed, or Could the Transformers have possibly maybe caught the planes and eliminated them?""
wtf..are you 10?
@@jimibmore 10? WHY I OUTTA! I'm seventy-seven years old, young man
what if twin towers didn't collapsed it after both plane crash it?
what if twin towers the fire had been extinguished? these are real questions.
Ok let me ask you about the second one first of all IT WOULD STILL COLLAPSE
Make a video of the Greek Orthodox Church in Manhattan after 9/11
Imagine the person who was taking a 💩 that morning, and as soon as he was letting the next fart out, last thing he hears is an explosion.
Omg 😭
I want to know why there were so many pieces of paper blowing all over the ground. I get an office has paperwork but that seems like so much paper. Is it even all just papers? What did the paper work say?
A question that sticks with me is... why didn't they have a giant net or inflatable thing for jumpers... I mean, there should be something like that that exists... right?
No, not possible
People were falling at 125 to 200 miles per hour.
Yeah it would vaporise the inflatable thing. @@jannaolsen3557
@jannaolsen3557 oh, thank you. So sad.
WAIT even if that was there the body's move when falling tho
*The only video I've seen of a guy trying to scale down,gets about half a floor before slipping and plummeting to his death. His slippery work shoes wouldn't have helped him at all. It would have been slippery like he was wearing just socks. I've never ever seen a video where a man scales 1O-2O floors, shimmying down, with his back on one side of wall and feet on the other wall then falls because of the shock of the other tower falling. If he made it 2O floors,he could have got inside one of the open mechanical floors and found a way down below the impact zone. I honestly think you are talking out of your rear about a man scaling down 2O floors, and I seriously doubt any of those office working men would have had the strength to do that,you know how much strength and stamina needed you would need to do that successfully for even 1-2 floors, let alone 1O-2O floors. Impossible, even if your will to live is strong. If it was stone or rock they could shimmy down,it might have been possible,but smooth shiny steel between the windows to try grip with your feet and back with slippery office shoes is impossible. Stop making up stories that never happened.💯%*
Let alone the friction burn on your hands, impossible given the situation
What if the towers knelt down because they were fatigued?
Why would even wanna monetize a video about the Twin Towers, how selfish are you?
They probably would have told them not to evacuate and don’t worry everything’s ok we have it all under control……
Nah Im pretty sure they would evacuate a building with a fucking hole on it
Well they wouldn't have known how long the towers would have lasted at the time - there would have been no difference to what was known before 9.59 am that day.
@@pinhomaster8261He's referring to how the South Tower wasn't evacuated when the North was first hit
What if the Both towers were filled with IBM wheelwriters?
Can you do a video on the footage of the Pentagon getting hit by a missle instead of a plane like I thought happened for 20 years
the reason why the only footage of the plane hitting the pentagon lookssloppy and the only frame of the aitcraft looks like a missile is because the camera was fisheyed lense if you undistort using fisheye lens distortion then you have a clearer angle of a shape representing a 757
Everybody knows that the aliens waited around for a 9/11 type situation to throw a missile at the Pentagon to kidnap people.
@@stevenroshni1228 most sane "critical thinker" (critical thinker as in comes up with the most outrageous and mind boggling scenario)
Planes Didn't take down the buildings
What if the titanic hit the twin towers?
It would have been a titanic collapse
At the bottom, no it would have no affect whatsoever on the tower.
*If the towers stayed erect for another 3 hours, so many more firefighters and Police would have died because they would have thought the towers aren't falling let's stupidly go in and get to the floor that's impassable,then do nothing. There was no way they were ever going to extinguish those fires. Each floor has an acre of floor space on fire, times that by 2O, and you have 2O acres of raging inferno that was never going to be extinguished or burn out. It had enough materials in the towers to burn for months. Even if they used water bomber aircraft from above, those fires we're never getting put out. I've never understood why they sent so many firefighters in to the towers. It was such a stupid decision and a certain death sentence. They should have known better that even if they got to the impact zone, there was nothing they could do. Absolute stupidity sending those Men in for a certain death sentence.💯%*
That’s easy to say with hindsight but at the time it would have been impossible to know the extent of the fires raging inside. This was an event that had never occurred before in human history!!
Yea what if they pushed the buttons 3 hours later .
your profile says it all😂
I bet.
Do you know what thermite is?
@@JFK-ir7yz thermite isnt often used in controlled demolitions, but if they were in the world trade center then the beams would actually melt, thermite itself may not be able to do that but nano thermite claims to do that and really can not be taken seriously, there isnt any evidence of steel beams being melted but rather being softend, they really dont need to melt
@@JFK-ir7yz yeah i do know what thermite is, its not even often used in controlled demoltiions and definitely not the size of the world trade center complex, im pretty sure normal thermite cant even burn through a normal car but nano thermite (im sure thats the one your talking about) burns faster and apparently is stronger, it would have melted the steel beams, but there is no evidence of that happening
A plane can't go 400mph 4000 thousand feet from the ground it would fall apart
I feel like it would be difficult for an architect to give you that assessment about collapse time. They would have to have detailed knowledge about the damage of all structural components.
Why do you end your videos in such a rushed and abrupt fashion?
What if spiderman saved the twin towers 🤣🤣🤣🤣
There was originally a scene in Spiderman about the towers but they took it out.
*If Spiderman saved the Towers, he would have been "Vindicated" 💯%*
Why didn't you put any of said photos?
Thats a little disingenuous.
If you make money off of yhese videos, you should donate the money to the families
Do you have a what if it happened in 2024?
what if the twin towers never existed
Well that's happening right now
@@sonic1695 well technically, we still have the 1 world trade center
Just go back before the 60s and there you go.
@@marionette-rf2oc1mu1q yea hate that tower the twin towers were better
@@marionette-rf2oc1mu1qYou can't have just one twin tower
It would be possible for helicopters to carry hundreds of climber ropes and throw them to those above the impact zone to climb down with the ropes to the floors below the impact.
What if flight 175 never made its target
Lets say flight 175 crash in a another plane on its way to its target
Read Elana Freeland. Understand the type of weapons used. The buildings were not taking into account such things. I wonder about the aeroplanes cock and bull. We know about Bell Art programs, and the used of Jumps and Chronovision. This surprised nobody of the folks in the Know.
What the actual fuck are you talking about?
Please make a video on insurance claims and coverages from 9/11. Who got paid and who didn't.
i never seen the video of the guy scaling down.. ive been researching 9/11 for over 8 months and never seen it unless im thinking of something else
Should an 11 year old be this interested in the twin towers?
Are you 11? It's good to be interested in history. It was a terrible day, a fixed point in time. I worked in a high rise by LAX and we thought other planes were coming. It's easy to get too into 9/11. I try to keep it to once a year, but here I am. Always get out if you think something is wrong.
@@lotstodo Yeah. In 3rd grade, my teacher got me into history. He taught us about the twin towers, titanic, and a buncha other stuff.
Do you have a brother who is 9? Even better!
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Lightning Larry would have had a fatal coronary.
Maybe, if they'd stayed standing longer, they could've landed helicopters on the roofs & get the doors unlocked to get to any folks still surviving in the upper floors?
what if 9/11 happen in 2002?
It would still be tragic
Zzzzzzzzzzzzz
If the government didn’t want to rush in a technological age, we wouldn’t have lost 3000 people.
Anyone old enough before this happened should understand what I’m saying.
Everything changed this day.
bro has too much time on his hands
This is so stupid… What if your parents never slept together?
How did Alex Jones predict these towers would be hit by planes and who they would blame it on a month before it happened? It is on video!