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The Evolution of Kitri Over the Years
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- čas přidán 16. 08. 2024
- Hi Danceliners, in this new format we will show you the Evolution of the Variations over the years. In this video, Kitri Variation from Don Quixote over time (from 1940 to 2013). The beautiful performers are:
1- Sulamith Messerer (1940)
2- Ekaterina Maximova (1969)
3 -Cinthia Harvey (1983)
4- Sylvie Guillem (1998)
5- Akane Takada (2013)
Do you like this new format? Let us know in the comment section below.
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It’s so interesting to see how technique changes. Because by todays standards Messerer doesn’t come close to any professional dancer. But in her time she was a prima ballerina of the bolshoi and went on to coach maya plisetskaya into the dancer she was
I loved the energy she had, it really captured Kitri's wild spirit.
Thinking how ballet industry has gotten too hard for ballerinas, shame. People shouldn’t be proud of pain their hobby/work makes them go through.
That is a fascinating story! Thx for sharing!
She also had hips. I've never seen a ballerina with hips before. In today's world, you have to have a narrow pelvis or you're not going to be a ballerina. There is a definite difference in bone structure between then and now.
@@ae2948 Or a regular/wide pelvis but with little to no fat on it, which gives the illusion of a narrower pelvis.
The teacher I studied under was a Russian refugee who danced in the Greek National Ballet in the 60s and 70s. She had hips, was short and curvy. She knew the standards we'd be held to by companies but still refused to weigh us, measure us (except for costumes) and educated herself on the signs of eating disorders. She still managed to turn out several professional ballerinas one of whom is currently a principal at ABT.
Ekaterina Maximova is so timeless 💕
100 percent!!!
Просто великолепна!!!!
By far my favorite!
Maximova's version is delightful !
Maximova reigns supreme in this. With each subsequent version, the music became slower & slower, completely missing the essence of Kitri, so wonderfully portrayed by Maximova. 💕
Ecxatly
agree it was wonderful even without all the unnecessary jumps in the newer choreographies who come across very interrupting
Agree
@@haselnusszweig5533 и не нужных вертикальных шпагатов. Балет это танец а не гимнастика...
Completely agree
It's amazing how much technique improved between 1940 and 1969. Obviously technique has continued to improve since then but all the dancers from Maximova forward would look like they belonged in a modern ballet company - Messerer not so much.
Возможности человека не безграничны. Поэтому где-то всегда будет остановка. Современные танцоры потеряли в скорости и координации. Это видно по Максимовой- она двигается легче всех.
@@professorpanchenko потому что Екатерина Максимова гениальная танцовщица, а остальные (кроме Мессерер - это другая эпоха) просто хорошо обученные танцовщицы. Увы...
@@pushistaya5059 , согласна. Но объективно современные танцовщики медленнее и неповоротливее. Это сейчас проблема, все преподы об этом говорят, начиная с Цискаридзе. Оркестры играют сопровождение медленнее, чем 40 лет назад. Моя подруга ставила ( воссоздавала) на фестиваль Мистюкова русский танец со своими студентами из хореографического колледжа. Воссоздавали по видеозаписи 70-х годов. Так студенты не успевали танцевать в том темпе, что танцовщики 70-х. Говорили-« может это плёнка убыстрена? Как они успевают?». Пришлось упростить, замедлить. Это один из примеров, недавний. Этим летом фестиваль проходил. Так же все поступающие сейчас на хореографию дети раскоординированны. Не знаю, с чем связано.
Во времена Мессерер. Ценилась способность быстро и красиво выполнять мелкие движения, которые сейчас утеряны. Пропадает техника выполнения
@@professorpanchenko рост Максимовой был 1,57м, рост Гиллем 1,72. У нее больше инертность, она просто не может быть такой быстрой, как Максимова. Законы физики.
Sylvite Guillem could dance her Kitri today and no one would know it was done almost THIRTY YEARS AGO. TIMELESS!!! Brava ballerina 🩰
Yes... they are all fabulous but there is something extra about Sylvie
Sylvie Guillem captures the spirit of Kitri. She isn't just dancing. The best!
@@carmenandreea yes... she is amazing
The modern ballett starts with Sylvie!!!
Нет, она технична, но скучна эмоционально🌸
I love the speed, energy, and delight the first two versions have. The more recent ones are too slowed down so they can accentuate the moves and long lines. Almost like they're posing for every single movement so much so that the embodiment of joy and lightness is lost
Maximova dances with the spirit of the young, flirtatious, playful Kitri, & her technique doesn't overshadow her artistry. Guillem is very acrobatic & precise, but I don't get the same feeling, as the accent seems to be on her extensions and gymnastic ability. I don't get any spirit of playfulness from Takada. Messerer's version has to be seen in the context of the standards of the time, but she exudes delight.
How wonderful to see Sulamith Messerer's Kitri ... she was an amazing teacher, extremely disciplined and exacting, but also a lovely person, full of stories of her youth and the Russian ballet world of many decades ago, both Imperial and Soviet. She was my teacher for some years in England during the 80s, and I credit her immensely for my own style of teaching. We also connected on other levels, as a Lithuanian Jew (my own grandmother) and through our names, her's Sulamith and my own, Shushanna. Fascinating to see how the variations, emotions and styles accredited to Kitri have changed over the years. Thank you for the video.
Wow, such an incredible story. Glad you enjoyed the video and Messerer's dancing ❤️🌟
Wow! You‘re very lucky, to have experienced the „Golden Age of Ballett“ with it’s unique dancers - Anna Pawlowa, Maja Plissetzkaja and more of such genius dancers. I miss some kind of artistic talent and aura, when i see modern female stars of ballett. Their techniques, of course, is brilliant but they mostly forget, that they’re first of all artists and not acrobats. I hope, that ballett won‘t completely turn into a kind of sports.
@@Julia-sg9wk Hello Julia. I have observed this myself, in modern ballet companies, in competitions (YAGP etc), and even amongst my own students. Far more interested in getting the leg 'up there', pulling off multiple pirouettes, over extended grande jetes...the list goes on. But the artistry - aah, now THAT'S a completely different question. It seems to have been lost in translation, along with musicality. And something else - there are very few dancers with the abilty to show charm, even sweetness - a quality that seems to have been forgotten. Everyone trying to outdo each other with over reaching gymnastics. I dont fault their technique, many are beautifully trained but yet....😔....
Interesting to see how the choreography and tempo of the music changed over time. The last 3 dancers dance similar choreography...starting out slowly, with tempo increasing towards the end to enhance the excitement. I thoroughly enjoyed the last three ballerinas but was fascinated by Ekaterina Maximova, who I had not seen before!
Ekaterina Maximova interpreta lo spirito di Kitri, giovane e biricchina, alla perfezione. Inoltre il suo stile è molto moderno. Maximova è eternamente Kitri.
Maximova is perfect. 👏🏻
Спасибо большое за чудесный спектакль. Истинное наслаждение смотреть на балетное совершенство. Все выступления хороши, но непревзойдённая Максимова -само совершенство, изящество, элегантность, озорство, утонченность...
Maximova !!!!!!! The best Kitri
Definitely
Akane Takada as Kitri is pure elegance ❤️
По сюжету Китри - очень юная озорная девушка. И в образ попадает только Максимова. Остальные танцуют то знойных женщин вамп, то томных красавиц
Это всё хореография Нуреева 🤮 У него и образ принцессы Авроры такой, и Раймонды тоже.
А Мессерер станцевала образ ребёнка.
@@nataliyakravchenko4994 Крупноватый ребёнок, однако 🫠
Екатерина Максимова (1969)! после нее балерина (1983) также хорошо показала характер Китри, задор. В последующие годы началось соревнование, кто выше ногу поднимет.
I love seeing this video of Maximova. When I was a young girl dancing in the US during that time, I only had black and white pictures of her in a paperback book about the Bolshoi to look at. The photos captured so much of her genius, but to see the video now is not something I could have imagined then.
Максимова бесподобна! Лучшая Китри!) 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
После первой и второй балерин пошел облегченный вариант исполнения.Максимова однозначно лучшая.Видела ее на сцене в Москве в балете
"Анюта".Такая легкость в танце,а ведь уже в возрасте была(для балета,конечно).Просто незабываемо.
@@Elena-xp1lu с Максимовой мало кто может сравниться: талант + фантастическое трудолюбие. Остальные танцовщицы видно, что неплохо обучены, но, увы, в балете очень многое зависит от природных данных.
Видела небольшой фрагментик в исполнении Раисы Стручковой, очень понравилось, озорная, быстрый темп. Посмотрите, на ютубе называется: Из фильма Никиты Тихонова "Раиса Стручкова"
@@pushistaya5059 Вот именно, все остальные танцовщицы, а Максимова БАЛЕРИНА.
После Максимовой смотреть невозможно, сразу виден низкий уровень. Темп музыки медленнее, не успевают они, и хореография самая простенькая, главное веером помахать красиво, а ногами работать.. Ну школы нет.
Ekaterina Maximova, genia por siempre!!!!!
Yes!!! 👍👏👏👏
Да скорей всего об этом все знают, только не удосуживаются написать об этом .
Maximova version is the best. I think you should add the version of Osipova Absolutely amazing!
And also Marianela Nunez - there is such fire in her dancing Kitri, as well as a lot of acting and humour.
@@clairecopple4369 So many people so many tastes.🙂
Gosh that is one heck of a petit allegro from Messerer! Especially knowing that those 40's pointe shoes had absolutely NO support, I am absolutely floored that she could pull off that precision footwork with quite a lot of en pointe moments. Sylvie is my fave here though, she absolutely floats! Love this format, please make more!!
Once you see Katya, no need to see the rest!!! She will always be the golden standard 😍😍😍
I love Akane's verion best. She's so gracious, and playful, and lively!
for me, she is too stiff, she is not as good as the other Kitris there, except Messerer of course !
Nop, she is too stiff.
Pompatic that was my first impresion.
Как не крути, лучше Максимовой нет.
Что тут крутить. Её роль
Максимова - божественна!!!
Максимов шедевр! До неё смешная молочница.
Messerer was my absolute favorite! She was so lively compared to the rest, it looked like fun 😁 I will say though that Maximova and Takada were absolutely beautiful
Ekaterina Maximova's version has to be my favorite by far, but Akane Takada's is a close second. They both gave the most energy to their dance.
I agree! Those were my top two as well, in that order!
I love this new format! I hope you make many more videos like this. ❤️ I especially like that each clip has it's original sound, as opposed to the side-by-side comparisons that just have the music from one video over both clips. I feel like some artistic nuance is missed when the music is not the exact same as what the dancer was performing to. I also love this format's historical footage! It's so fun to see all the ways that ballet has changed over the years! 🥰
Thank you very much for letting us know 🥰🩰
@@DanceLineBallet I actually prefer the other format, because specific differences stood out so clearly, but I tend to watch videos as historical documents.
While I prefer the modern technique (except for the excessive use of overextensions), in terms of music Messerer’s variation/execution makes the most sense to me.
Максимова лучшая, самая настоящая озорная Китри))))
No question in my mind......Cynthia Harvey is, and will always be, the best Kitri! In my opinion, the 1983 ABT production of Don Quixote ranks as number one! Bravo Ms. Harvey!!!!!
Всё равно от Максимовой невозможно взгляд оторвать.
Совершенство...
Да... После Максимовой - это уже не эволюция, а регресс вариации Китри.
@@Margosher согласна, именно постановка не усовершенствуется в ногу со временем. Хотели как лучше, а получилось даже не как всегда🤔😄
@@user-gq4uy4sp8i Сделали вариацию, как удобнее танцевать балеринам, замедлили темп, и ушло что-то испанское. Но это видео не о танцовщицах, а о хореографии. Версию Максимовой танцуют. Анжелина Воронцова, например.
@@Margosher девочек талантливых много и школа не подводит. А вот общая картина за сценой не радует, мышиная возня, которая никак на пользу не идёт. К сожалению сам балет ушёл у многих на второй план
@@user-gq4uy4sp8i Да. Политика (общественные и личные отношения) идёт впереди не только экономики, но и искусства.
Максимова лучшая Китри!
Сравнивать надо одинаковые вариации. Максимова танцует оригинальную версию, а после неё балерины уже исполняют новую версию, которая совсем не отражает дух балета Дон Кихот
Точно! Всё остальное уже чистая акробатика.
Максимова лучшая!
Вот именно! Как можно сравнивать разные постановки, если мы говорим о качестве исполнения! Я понимаю, если б сравнили Максимову и Образцову
Разные постановки.Замедлили темп,пропала искрометность,виртуозная мелкая техника , яркость,легкомысленность и энергия образа. Это как в драме весело тараторить или медленно рассуждать.
Thanks for this interesting compilation. I think "evolution" isn't the precise word for these comparisons. Yes, the technique has evolved from the last century. But the variations here were choreographed by different choreographers, even if each one started with Petipa as point of departure. Maximova probably danced Gorsky's choreography; Harvey's variation was choreographed by Baryshnikov, Guillem's by Nureyev, I believe, etc.
You are totally right. Evolution is not the word. I would say the word is Taste in choreography. There is good taste and bad taste....
Essentially there are just 2 main versions of Kitri's variation though, and these are still the versions I see today: the one Messerer and Maximova dance, which has all the passés in the middle section, and the one Harvey, Guillem and Takada dance, that starts with the jetés across the stage. I've generally seen Russian companies have a preference for the first version and UK and American companies the second, though that's not hard-and-fast.
@@sashamanster I prefer the first, I think it goes with the music better.
It's surprising but here Guillem doesn't dance Nureyev choregraphy, which very different
Maximova !!! Genialidad !!
技術的にめちゃくちゃ進化してる！
1940年代から1969年の間におそらく1番変わったのはポアントの品質だと思うけど…
（最後のシェネが40年代の人はポアントで立ってなかったし…）
でも、高田さんやギエムも良いけど
私はやっぱりエカテリーナ・マクシモワさんのキトリが1番素敵に感じる
キトリは威勢のいい町娘だからね。その元気なチャーミングさが他の人には足りない。
Пуанты появились задолго до Мессерер.
I am happy to see that most of people think same with me, that even it was far 1969, but Maksimova did it best.
Екатерина Максимова великолепна! Плисецкая так же хороша в Китри..
Максимова лучшая
Екатерина Максимова бесподобна!
Maximova!❤
Second one is definitely the best.
Обожаю Максимову, одна из лучших балерин.❤️ У Сильвии потрясающие данные, тоже очень нравится ее танец. Из более-менее современных люблю Осипову в роли Китри.
I like the first ones dance of Messerer sooo much more because it's more coherent with the music! I think that's much more important than to have those statuesque poses every 3 seconds.
i love maximova！
Максимова лучшая.
I like the first 3 dancers. They represent different time periods and style. They dance. The last 2 dancers are showing us their technical prowesses but forget the music and the character. This said my favorite Kitri is Gelsey Kirkland.
Ой, какая подборка! Где же вы это берете❤ Максимова конечно.... это просто её. Гиллем роскошная, спустилась с другой планеты, таких больше нет и долго не будет. Мессерер насмешила. Спасибо. Лайк и подписка ❤
Maximova❤
Максимова единственная, кто смотрится в этой роли. Все остальные- гимнастки.
У максимовой небыло никокого замедления в танце. Музыка нета. Про нее говорили, что она говорит ногами. Это чтото черти что придумали... Однозначно максимова в правильной версии
This compilation is fascinating and Kitri
continues to evolve!! Thank you and a pleasure to watch. ❤🌹🌹❤
Все понравились, Максимова всё же больше всех. Бедные их ноженьки....
I grew up watching 'Kitri' by Cynthia Harvey. I loved Kitri after watching this where she danced with Mikhail Baryshnikov.
Maximova - is pick of evolution.
The documentation and teaching of technique has improved since the 1950s (thanks to documentation and history being preserved, but also to the open minds of the artists who accept adjusting movement to help prevent some injuries), it’s the demand on dancers that has changed, the hyper-mobility in joints in particular. And this is not a criticism, it is an honest observation. Not just with the female dancers, but the male dancers, too. And sometimes there are pirouettes added, and hyper-mobile extensions that alter the original choreography. I’m thankful to see these videos. This channel does a great job documenting our history.❤️🙏🏼
For me Cinthia Harvai (1983) is the best for this seconse. She is very naturel and has a good technique. ❤️
You can definitely see the changes. I actually prefer the earlier versions.
Wonderful seeing the ‘40’s film even though we don’t recognise it much today. Maximova is, and always will be, superb. Have you seen Osipova do this? To me, she embodies the spirit of Kitri perfectly. Just my opinion though, they’re all marvellous 🙏🙏🙏🩰🩰👵🇦🇺
Лучшая Китри это Екатерина Сергеевна Максимова. Навсегда лучшая!!!
Современные балерины более медленные. Сначала думала показалось, но пересмотрела ещё раз и таки да, музыка играет медленней.
Причем, с каждой последующей балериной из этого ролика все медленней и медленней
Если такая тенденция будет развиваться дальше, то скоро эта вариация превратится по темпу музыки в менуэт.
В этих отрезках после Екатерины Максимовой нет эволюции.
You are correct, Maximova is by far the best!
She dances with such joy , charm and attention to detail. 🌹❤🌹
Yes, she is charming!
Потому что Максимова навсегда и везде это КЛАССИКА. А классика вечна.
Sylvie Guillem è eterna ❤✨
There are so many changes, additions and alterations to Don Quixote, which have many different authors, that Petipa and Gorsky are considered authors more by tradition. Alterations have not stopped until now. As for the performers of Kitri, I agree with the majority, the best Kitri is Maximova. But I also advise you to pay attention to Osipova, in some places she looks better. Sylvie Guillem is a good ballerina, but this is not a classic Russian ballet. Look at the work of the feet, hands, body. It's interesting, but it's not a Russian classic.
After Ekaterina Maksimova there isn’t any evolution at all these fragments
Maximova is stunning: she was always way ahead of her time. The video is from 53 years ago and it looks fresh in this 21st century.🌟✨🌹
Absolutely!!!
I love the last 2 versions, because the music is slow enough for the ballerina to take the tame for every single detailed movement with the fan (opening, closing, shaking, shifting the orientation along with the steps, ...).
It's impressive to see how it changed since decades!
Катенька Максимова могла одной улыбкой танцевать
Wonderful and still I missed Osipova
Gotta admit AKANE SLAYED THAT ENDING!🔥
👑QUEEN SYLVIE 👑ALWAYS THE STANDARD TO ATTAIN.🙏🏽♥️💯🔥🔥🔥
Это не эволюция, а разная хореография. Максимову из всех представленных никто не перетанцевал. После неё все тяжеловесны и не изящны.
Наталья Осипова.
@@SanctumSanctorum5 я написала представленные, а не вообще за всю историю балета.
@@SanctumSanctorum5 И Наталья Осипова не перетанцевала Максимову, как бы кому она ни нравилась.
@@olga_shaladanova где Вы увидели , что Осипова перетанцевала?
Откройте глаза
Eu acho essa parte da variação kitri chata, mas com a Ekaterina Maximova (1969) ficou sensacional e lindo. Combinou com ela 🥰🥰🥰.
Да, после Максимовой уже и не смотрится....
Да музыка за Максимовой не успевает!!! Такое ощущение, что тут разные звуковые дорожки!!!! Неприятно, как ПОЛЗАЮТ ПО СЦЕНЕ ДРУГИЕ!!! МАКСИМОВА - БЛЕСК!!!!
Это НЕ ТА МУЗЫКА!!! Максимова танцует ГОРАЗДО БЫСТРЕЕ И ИНТЕНСИВНЕЕ!!! ОНА ТАНЦУЕТ ПОД ДРУГУЮ МУЗЫКУ, НЕ ПОД ТУ, ЧТО ЗВУЧИТ В ВИДЕО!!! ОБМАНЩИКИ!!!
What a treat‼️. Wonderful selection of Kitri as the focus. Absolutely fabulous‼️👍🏻. Thank you so much‼️😁
Чем позже исполнялся танец. тем медленнее. Самая старая съемка - самая живая. Просто ключ свежей воды бьет. Максимова ещё держит темп. Позднее - как будто спят или статичный картинки
#1 almost like a jig, the whole body itself looks like Bob Fosse stuff. The other dancers are more "up," she's street. She keeps it real. She will cut you.
#2 PRECISE. Laser focus. The Zorro of ballet. No hesitation. She could make swatting flies look glamorous.
#3. Sassy, sultry. I can smell her perfume. Its vanilla based.
#4 lovely and pretty. She moves how emmy rossum sings.
#5 Pose. Pose. Pose. She can stop, midair, if she wants. Perfect for photographs.
1:15 I love this footwork the most. Almost unreal. Definitely my fav version.
5:09 damn those legs so strong!!
I love Akane Takada's version the most.
Первые две балерины именно танцуют. Все остальные спят, японка вообще думала бросит танцевать.
Балет!❤ как лекарство .... Возвращает к Жизнь!!!😊
Обожаю Балет! Это самое лучшее, что есть в Человечестве!!!❤!!!! И ещё Опера!!!! ❤😊
The tutu on messerer looks like something a high school kid wears on spirit day. I really enjoyed her dance but she was fighting that tutu to look clean.
Мессерер и Максимова - это безусловно танец Китри, последующие 3 варианта танец заводных кукол.
Harvey will always be kitri for me ♥️
Btw thanks for putting this together. It's amazing!
........e finalmente la musica e la danza si incontrarono con immenso piacere!:)) Grazie per la carrellata, molto bella!
It's a pity that you combined two different choreographic versions. There are plenty of wonderful modern dancers to dance Gorskiy's version still. It'll be interesting to see those.
Sylvie is perhaps my most favorite dancer, so I may be a bit biased, but it's easy to justify as she is absolutely sublime.
However I found that Akane was very similar in the quality of her dancing and, of course, she brought her own style to the role. However, Sylvie still takes this for me as she has a playful/feisty edge that I don't feel in Akane's dancing. Of course this is not to say that there isn't a bit of that feeling at all in her performance. In the end this is a personal preference and I really think they are both exquisite.
I love tgus series format! Ballet history is so interesting ! (;
Sylvie!
Thanks!
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Очень грустно смотреть на двух последних. Оркестр играет на 1,5 раза медленнее, а балерины очень стараются делать вид. В партитуре указан темп, нет, подумаю, тренироваться надо, фиг с ним - не буду играть presto, allegro сойдёт. В двух танцах нет пульса.
Takada had the best musicality of them all. So many were very off the music trying to sacrifice musicality for showmanship (balancing and showing of extensions etc) it feels robotic if it’s not with the music
While Messerer's may not be as clean, as a non- professional, I enjoy watching her dance way more than the last two, which, again-to me-feels very sterile and technical- the passion and joy they must have in their work does not translate in these particular stage performances. I do love the side by sides though!! fascinating what has changed over the years
I'm imagining the dancer from the first recording watching the last recording and being like:
"Nice smile. Very graceful. But that music's far too slow! Modern dancers clearly lack the speed and preci- .... Wait, where did her leg just go?!?"
E' sempre bello vedere quelli che anno preceduto i grandi nomi di oggi
My favourite Kitri is Mariniela Nunez . Total beast .
100 % the best
Лучше Максимовой нет.
Togliamo subito la Maximova dal gruppo,a mio avviso un metro più su a prescindere dal balletto,dalla coreografia e dal tempo...Però mi spiace che in questo video,di tutto rispetto e con danzatrici straordinarie,manchi quella che,per me ovviamente, ha non una ma dieci marce in più...piena di classe,fuoco,armonia,musicalità, perfezione,interpretazione... e di tutto e di più,di ciò che È Danza...Parlo della Osipova...e non occorre dica altro.