Yeah, don't cover them anymore. Of course they are butthurt when white dudes like Doncic and Jokic who barely dunk play better basketball because they are so focused on skin colour in America.
@@christophermorris173 i can't tell if these white kids on youtube are just scared to call a black guy racist or they're really this naïve about what's going on.
@EzelsCool yall jokic cheerleaders are casuals Jokic is the worst MVP since steve nash won over kobe twice but yall love the great white hope pillsbury doughboy
I.mean they're just straight up lying. It's wild. What wasn't even brought up was advanved metrics - Jokic had a monster season in 2021. They're also leaving off the context that he brought LITERAL g-leaguers and guys who are out of the league to the playoffs. Theyre trying to give Luka an MVP for that rn when he has an all-star player and a solid roster 😂 Jokic brought six rotation players who are now out of the league NOT DUE TO AGE, to the 6th seed
@@bmsuperstar1The majority of us just don’t care. Why be bothered by a group of people who is no longer the stand alone best at one of the only things they are good at? The sad reality is that now with basketball becoming popular in Europe, the basketball Americans might have to be given a more appropriate name. Something like incarcerated Americans might be apt.
It's sad but understandable. When you live in a country where the dominant narrative is that sports is the only thing "your people" are good for, you start building your identity around it. When Jokic comes in all caucasian looking and is straight up the best player in the world for three years in a row, it might really feel like an attack at the foundation of your identity. The wypipo are taking the last thing away from you sort of deal.
What Gilbert really meant to say was Jokic is a great passing white center that can also white the ball and white his teammates while being very white and Jokic doesn't black because he's white and Gilbert doesn't like him because Gilbert is black..
-- There's an 80% chance that "analysts" (aka commentators) are driving up clicks with stupid hot takes. Without any hot takes, we wouldn't be re-re-watching highlights and their takes.
Shockingly I think his take is more based. He is saying the mvp should only go to the best player on the best team in the league. He’s using Jokic as an example since he’s been a top 2 candidate the last 4 years lol
How many rings does Gilbert have? How many MVPs does Gilly have? Oh. What did you do guy to act so vitriolic to Jokic?! We all know why you hate him. Obvious.
@@ObelixCMM Nuggets in a scrimmage. Jokic throws a lob pass to Gordon for an alleyoop. Godon: Git dat outta 'ere!!! (Swats it out of the gym) Jokic: ...... What?!!! Wtf was that? Gordon: My bad. Got you mixed up for MPJ hitting my man. Jokic: Now you owe me a horse. Gordon: Say what?? Jokic: You heard me.
I think it’s true when they aren’t biased or paid off. Only problem is majority of them are bias and paid off. Gil is on the Klutch sports payroll like many others.
Barkley and Shaq do pretty well, if nothing else they at least aren’t brain dead about the joker situation. But the amount of hate a lot of these guys have for the guy really is just sad. Here’s hoping Joker gets a repeat and really makes them squirm.
it's official, this is the *_WORST TAKE EVER_* by any ex-NBA player, who are supposedly the only people who should talk about basketball since they played the game.
"but black people can't be racist, especially against white people" This is actually the rhetoric in a current game development scandal (to look it up, look up "GamerGate 2".
The only thing worse than Gilbert Arenas's take about NBA is Gilbert Arenas's take about european players in NBA. This guy should be held as far away as possible from microphones and cameras.
@@charliedontsurf9155stop calling it xenophobic to try to take the sting out of it. Gilbert has no problem with wemby or giannis there's a specific type of euro that he hates
the only thing controversial about the 22 mvp voting was how embiid got so many first place votes.... there is no chance in hell he was better than jokic so the only way to vote him first was coming from a bias... if you accomplish less per game and in fewer games how does that add up to MORE in ranking
He may have outplayed Jokic in Philly last year but he's been ducking Jokic in Denver since what 2019? The Embiid voters loved bringing up that Embiid outplayed Jokic in last year's MVP race but ignored that fact.
The problem with jokic for these people is that he exposed everyone. He is so good and doesn't care, dude literally seemed happier when his horses won their race. Meanwhile lebron walks in with goats gets called king and hates that people don't call him the Goat, when the only time he had done something great was getting the ring with the cavs. Meanwhile jokic working his 9 to 5, getting triple doubles, passing, making insane shots, and doing it his way not much flash but man is it great to see him play
There is nobody like Joker, the way he elevates his team is unreal. The nuggets are such a cool team to watch and it’s legit sad that some people seem to be looking for any reason they can find to hate on Joker. But like you said the dude could care less anyway 😂
NBA commentators on CZcams keep saying they don't understand why gilbert arenas has this take but it's very obvious why. the issue is no one is willing to say why. it's the same reason why the entire corporate sports media slandered jokic last year and gave embiid a pity MVP. tl;dr: gilbert arenas is a racist.
It's simple. Remove Jokic from the Nuggets - they are a lottery team. Remove JT from the Celtics - they are still a top 5 team. Remove Luka from the Mavs - they are still in playoffs with healthy Kyrie. Remove Giannis from Bucks - they are still in playoffs with Dame. Remove Embiid from Sixers - they can manage to get to the playoffs. No one is as much crucial to the team's success as Jokic is for the Nuggets. Which makes him the Most Valuable Player.
@@jasongibson4890embiid biggest problem is that he’s always injured tho. Mostly bc his style of playing (including constantly throw himself to the ground for fouls)
@@king-ghost1027lebron has multiple all defensive first teams. What defensive accolades does Jokic have? Also. Jokic didn't win MVP last year. Sometimes. Players get snubbed. Lebron arguably did
@@yyynbbggsage7398 that word sums up lebum. Nearly. Nearly won all those finala too huh 😆 im not taking any version of lebum over current jokic. And jokic doesnt even give a fuck about basketball 😆😆😆
“statistically the worst mvp winner in the last 40 years” i mean what in the fuck is he doing. he’s been one of the best STATISTICALLY. how many mvps have shot 70% from the field in the season, broken the record for most points, assists, and rebounds by a single player in a season, and led his team to the first ever championship also, you can put 2021 jokic’s 26, 8 and 11 up against any and every lebron james season of his entire career
Can you argue others being worthy of his MVP’s? Sure. Does that mean that Jokic is undeserving of his MVPs? No. Every MVP can be argued. Plus, Jokic’s MVPs come with results 🏆
well, technically not really, at least not yet. previous 2 mvps, no chips. last year, no mvp, big chip. this year, we shall see. if murray isn't back to full strength in the playoffs, i doubt they stand a chance.
@@laz0rama I think Malone is prepping the Nuggets for a playoff run. Would love to have the 1 seed but would rather have the 2 seed and be healthy. Minnesota is going to be tough, as will OKC.
Gilbert, along with all of his boyfriends, are simply scared jealous inside because they know that they could never match up with the Serb. I dare say because of his style he would be an MVP in any era.
I dont understand the Jokic hate. The man is great! I think they are trying to sabatoge him because they know he is going to pass lebron is lots statss and accolades
@@jaceseldom8236if. That's a huge if. And then him doing again twice more? It's not easy to win 4 chips while being the fmvp. Only 2 people have done it.😊
The fact that jokic is the best player in the world and people are naming him thw "worst "mvp" ever, do u know the worst mvp ever is david cowens stat wise, bob petit record wise but gil will yap and yak to remain relevant how convient😅
And Nikola Jokic does not give a dime about that. He doesn't even have a social media. He wants to finish the season and go back home to his friends and family and ride a horse 😂😂😂
Gilbert in inconsistent because he said in the podcast that you have to have a top seed but in the same podcast he was saying that Kobe should've won over Nash but Kobe's team wasn't a top seed. I'm fine with former NBA players having a platform because we get to see that just because they've played doesn't mean that they know what they're talking about compared to people who don't. For years players like Durant have tried to discredit the media and fans who haven't played but now we can see that is a bunch of crap.
They don't like Joker simply because it destroys their narrative that players are so much more athletic today. Who in their right mind would ever say Bird wouldn't thrive in this era now?
Wait,wait,WAIT!!!! Lemme see if I understand this correctly here. Almost doesn't count for ANY player in the league as a positive thing unless it's about L36ron James right???? Cuz I've heard all too many times about him ALMOST winning DPOY, ALMOST winning championships as if that's good enough. But when it's about another player it doesn't count???? Am I the only one seeing a pattern here? Or did I miss something?
It would be a lot easier to respect the Jokic haters if they just said they don't like his playing style or don't like his personality. To say he is not an incredible player is just straight up braindead.
I'm from Denver I'm a Jokic fan I think currently the best overall player past 3-4 years in my opinion. What's sad is of he was doing this is Dallas any California team Miami and or a New York team which I'm including the Nets he's a Superstar on the sports talk shows Dailey. He's in Denver and he's just a star.
Jokic on off numbers are just absurd, Denver without Jokic would be one of the worst teams in the league, 2 years ago more then half of his teammates are not in league any more. This year without Jokic on the court would be as bad as San Antonio.
We're talking about this year...not two years ago. Nuggets are a well-oiled machine w/ or w/o Jokic. Not saying Finals contenders but they are locked in
Gil-Bear is a terrible commentator, often contradicting hisself, says outlandish things just to get attention (and in that regard, ...he's doing good!). He is right in one regard though: "We are dumbing down the game... for the narrative." Yep, Gil-Bare, yup... the narrative of LeFlop being the GOAT! THAT'S the prime NBA narrative and directive, while putting down all the top Euro players (Jokic, Doncic, Giannis).
Putting Tatum in the same tier as Jokic is beyond ignorant. Tatum has a super team built around him and can’t beat Jokic playing without a single AllStar
Insane that Gilbert has to Choose a random case like Tatum even being near the MVP despite being one of the biggest underperformers in the post season lol. I mean Tatum is great but if you go hot and cold potato with Jaylen Brown every other playoff game you arent gonna be considered the Most Valuable Player on a team if you cant even seperate yourself completely from your Co-Star on your own team much less the entire league. Sad cause we all know if Embiid was still in the running the slander would taken more seriously. Not to say Embiid didnt have a great case for MVP despite him being a bit whiny. But the man could ball. Unfortunately Availability is the ultimate factor. IF your Ass isnt available for the most important games of the entire year we cant even consider your case.
Just putting this out there Shannon doesn't agree with Gilbert he just didn't want to argue with him. Sharpe understands why Jokic is great and always mentions it. He was just being professional.
Talk about a gift from the basketball gods….thy name is Nikola Jokic. The Joker and the DENVER NUGGETS coached by LeBALCO’s daddy- Coach Mike Malone, have seemingly picked up where Kevin Durant and the GS Warriors left off in 2018. 😅
Jokic's stats in his 2021 MVP season are near identical to Lebron's 2013 MVP season (Jokic has even better rebounding and assist stats), and yet somehow one is historic but the other is not, Jokic has made posting a near triple double stat on some of the best efficiency all time seem to look so effortless and easy that people think it's not impressive or historic...
so the crazy thing about that argument is that jokic beats them all pretty much VERY CLEARLY in the raw stats... and that's shit everyone can understand... so where does the argument come from but then when you look at the advanced metrics he just blows everyone away, he is HISTORIC in his proficiency and production i'm going to say it without mincing words in many MANY cases of detractor is is strictly racial and nothing else... like if an american born, black player was doing what jokic is doing and in the same manner they would ALREADY be discussing him vs Mj and ignoring lebron's existence these are facts
@@yyynbbggsage7398 well... no... of course this is untrue.... these arguments are subjective, obviously but even with that in mind, we don't just go by rings or mvps or whatever, it is always a case by case basis... do you believe bill russell to be better because he has 11 chips?... no, context matters, the fact that he had 1 good team to go against in those days and that the league only had 8 teams to begins with obviously makes those rings less competitive than modern day rings... that's just one example... what we look at really, at the end of the day, when we judge players, is what is their on court impact overall OR we look at their personal dominance... we can definitively say lebron james jumps higher than jokic... but we can also definitively say that jokic raises the level of his team's play far more than lebron specifically, and more than everyone else we watch in the league... like i said earlier, it's all very subjective how we judge these things but i figured out a fool proof way FOR me, and by my estimation and criteria it is very hard to make the case for other players over jokic and i mean ALL TIME... and the question for me is, if i get a 5 year contract that i can sign any player historically to build my team around as the LONE superstar on that team, whom would i take first.... and lebron isn't even on the list of candidates for me... clearly he is for you, but i can't ignore the mental weakness and all basketball weaknesses too in favor of athleticism with lebro
@notimportant3686 lol dude played the race card. You are wrong. Jokic probably will be a fringe top 10 player at the end of his career. In fact. Unless they team up with each other(unlikely because both want massive amounts of money) they won't both be in the top 10. If either gets in at all as they are competing against each other.
@@yyynbbggsage7398 i mean "fringe top 10" player is INCREDIBLE... that's fine... wtf are you even talking about teaming up for?... does jokic need to team up with anyone?... clearly he does not... do not put him in the same category as the mentally weak lebron.. who is not a top 10 player by the way, despite all the media wishes
@@notimportant3686 lebron is 2. Fringe top 10 is incredible. Yes. But Jokic and Doncic fanboys act like they are the goats or future goats. It's ridiculous.
If Jokić 3peats with Denver his career already challenges Lebron's career. 3 rings in Denver with Jamal Murray and Aaron Gordon being the second and third best player on the team would be worth more than Lebron's 2 rings with D Wade and Bosh + a ring with prime Antony Davis and + a ring with prime Kyrie Irving and prime Kevin Love.
The Celtics constantly win despite Tatum putting up tour dates but this goober thinks he should win mvp. They would still comfortably make the playoffs without him
@WestCoastDon448 you can fill in the blank with your statement. Anyone other than a white man, they'd be praising them. They hate to see a white king do well for himself
Great video as always, I would just add that Jokic got even forgoten by a voter lol MJ who forgot to even put him on the list ffs I cant wait for next Gil's take where he will explain us what he really meant and how we didnt understood him properly lol regards from Serbia
I cant speak intelligently about the current NBA, because I don't watch anymore. I think Jokic would've been very good in any era, but this era is tailor made for Jokic and I don't think there is anyone with the overall offensive skill set as Jokic. Defense doesn't seem to be factored in, but Jokic is above average defensively. But the value of Jokic on his team in this era is immense. Arenas hates Euros and only likes black Americans to stay relevant with the Gen Z'ers. He can't believe half the crap he actually says
Its in all sports and in all countries. Somehow because you used to play they think you have something worth hearing. Its even worse when they decide they are gonna be deliberately controversial to stay relevant in some way. You dont need analysts, you don't even need commentary. Im pretty sure you can decide what is going down without listening to these guys.
Former players from Serbia and former Yugoslavia are also jealous of Jokić. Danilović and Kukoč said Jokić isn't as good as they were and that Jokić is the best player today because today's era is weak.
Arenas is racist. Stop putting this guy on every show.
Yeah, don't cover them anymore. Of course they are butthurt when white dudes like Doncic and Jokic who barely dunk play better basketball because they are so focused on skin colour in America.
As a black man, I 100% support this statement
@@christophermorris173 Gilbert Arenas also called dark skinned black women ugly
@@christophermorris173 i can't tell if these white kids on youtube are just scared to call a black guy racist or they're really this naïve about what's going on.
More like nationalistic.
"Jokic is the worst MVP winner of the past 40 years"
Let me guess: he thinks the other worst MVPs are Steve Nash and Dirk Nowitzki
Facts
Hmmmm.... what do they all have in common?
Of course he does. And he probably thinks Larry Bird isn't an all-time great. I wonder what all these people have in common.
Yuuuuup
@CoreyLaheyTrevor tell me why I read that in Kendrick Perkins' voice 😅
we don’t care about gilbert 😂😭
This video kinds disproves that. Giving clowns attention plays into their hands.
@EzelsCool yall jokic cheerleaders are casuals Jokic is the worst MVP since steve nash won over kobe twice but yall love the great white hope pillsbury doughboy
@@darnellwilliams8783Pillsbury Doughboy 😂😂😂
Michelin Man
@@darnellwilliams8783 didn't he cook Lebron (GOAT apparently) AND AD last year lol?
My mommy cares about me
Asking if Gilbert is stupid is a rhetorical question. He brought a gun to training...
@ionlawrence4401 nah that's fake you leaving out context a teammate threatened to shoot him first
@darnellwilliams8783 he still brought it into the locker room lol. Not sure who dude is wrong
@darnellwilliams8783 it's not fake dum dum,, why are u lying for attention?
@@darnellwilliams8783 why are u lying for attention?
Word on the street was it was a table of guns
The Jokic hate is disgusting at this point.
Cry?
@@CARBONHAWK1 No, I am fine right now. Did I give any crying emojis?
@@dusty407 sounds like crying, sorry my English is bad.
@@CARBONHAWK1 your conclusions are even worse.
@@CARBONHAWK1 it's not your english that's bad... it's your brain
Gil is disqualified for even thinking about a champion like Jokic.
Fun fact: Everyone who reads this has just as many play off series wins as Gil.
Plot twist; Michael Jordan's reading this rn 😂
You mean one career win then. He won a series in 2005. Not to say I don't disagree with his take. Just pointing out that he did win a playoff series.
@@gabrielmurray929 he won one playoff series in his career? That’s historic!
Gil destroyed his own career for a “bit”, this guy is an absolute fool
@@jaytee4374 send me some js
Nikola Jokic: literally has one of the best seasons of all time
Jokic haters: Worst MVP winner of the last 40 years
How many times I'm going to hear that? "Worst in 40 years"
@@adriansmith5279probably every year he wins one
I.mean they're just straight up lying. It's wild. What wasn't even brought up was advanved metrics - Jokic had a monster season in 2021. They're also leaving off the context that he brought LITERAL g-leaguers and guys who are out of the league to the playoffs. Theyre trying to give Luka an MVP for that rn when he has an all-star player and a solid roster 😂 Jokic brought six rotation players who are now out of the league NOT DUE TO AGE, to the 6th seed
@@daddyfuse50💯 correct my friend
Nikola is MVP!
Its pure racism at this point.
Can you imagine two white guys arguing those points. All hell would break loose.
@@bmsuperstar1The majority of us just don’t care. Why be bothered by a group of people who is no longer the stand alone best at one of the only things they are good at? The sad reality is that now with basketball becoming popular in Europe, the basketball Americans might have to be given a more appropriate name. Something like incarcerated Americans might be apt.
@@bigbadladnamedalasad7071 Or child abandoning Americans. 😁
I love it.
black people can't be racist
It's sad but understandable. When you live in a country where the dominant narrative is that sports is the only thing "your people" are good for, you start building your identity around it.
When Jokic comes in all caucasian looking and is straight up the best player in the world for three years in a row, it might really feel like an attack at the foundation of your identity. The wypipo are taking the last thing away from you sort of deal.
What Gilbert really meant to say was Jokic is a great passing white center that can also white the ball and white his teammates while being very white and Jokic doesn't black because he's white and Gilbert doesn't like him because Gilbert is black..
😂 💯
Basically. These dudes don't like the fact the best player in the league doesn't pass the eye test in any facet.
Wow
😂😂😂
White**
*They’re not even trying to hide it anymore. 💀*
☠️☠️☠️
-- There's an 80% chance that "analysts" (aka commentators) are driving up clicks with stupid hot takes.
Without any hot takes, we wouldn't be re-re-watching highlights and their takes.
And y’all lining their pockets falling for it😂
Americans can't stand foreigners beating them in their own game!!
@@CARBONHAWK1 , good..as long as its their pockets, not ours 😏.
Gilbert never looks at EFFICIENCY, just skin color. The one thing Gilbert was the best at was threatening teammates with guns.
Sharp is not better neither.
Shockingly I think his take is more based. He is saying the mvp should only go to the best player on the best team in the league. He’s using Jokic as an example since he’s been a top 2 candidate the last 4 years lol
@@glabuser , then why is it called MVP (most valuable player) and not BPS (best player of the season), let it sit there and marinate 😏.
@@glabuser Jokic is the best player on the best team
Gordon: You hear what Gil had to say 'bout you, Jok?
Jokic: Who?
Gordon: Nevermind. Wanna play HORSE?
Jokic: I love horses!!! 🐎🐎🐎
How many rings does Gilbert have? How many MVPs does Gilly have? Oh. What did you do guy to act so vitriolic to Jokic?! We all know why you hate him. Obvious.
@@neonnights16 Are you sure you wanted to reply here? This comment is making fun of Arenas not Jokic
I read it in Jokic's voice lol
@@ObelixCMM
Nuggets in a scrimmage. Jokic throws a lob pass to Gordon for an alleyoop.
Godon: Git dat outta 'ere!!! (Swats it out of the gym)
Jokic: ...... What?!!! Wtf was that?
Gordon: My bad. Got you mixed up for MPJ hitting my man.
Jokic: Now you owe me a horse.
Gordon: Say what??
Jokic: You heard me.
U mean poney…
I just find it funny that a lot of people thought that the NBA players would bring credibility to the media and they are far worse if you ask me
Not all....not all....not all....but most.......
I think it’s true when they aren’t biased or paid off. Only problem is majority of them are bias and paid off. Gil is on the Klutch sports payroll like many others.
Facts
Barkley and Shaq do pretty well, if nothing else they at least aren’t brain dead about the joker situation. But the amount of hate a lot of these guys have for the guy really is just sad. Here’s hoping Joker gets a repeat and really makes them squirm.
What do you expect from these guys who are uneducated ? Lebron still can't say basic english words properly.
All the Jokic slander is clearly Klutch pushed propaganda
Finally someone said it!
Yup because Jokic actually does what people always claimed LeBron did. Makes his teammates better
Racism has a black face today
💯
@@jalmainJokic actually does
it's official, this is the *_WORST TAKE EVER_* by any ex-NBA player,
who are supposedly the only people who should talk about basketball since they played the game.
@august6281 its official you jok iiiu c cheerleaders are sensitive it's the truth jokic is the worst MVP since steve nash in 05 and 06
This is opening the eyes to black racism in sports.
Racism? It’s widely recognized he’s the best player. Just because one 🤡says something doesn’t speak for the majority of
You already know.
Finally
Black racism? Nah a lot blacks give jokic credit don’t believe Gilbert
Man u late..
I've seen this for decades...
"Statistically the worst in the last 40 years" werent both jokic mvps sole case being about his statistical dominance?😂 like wtf he talking about
these former NBA players just dont like Europeans dominate their league. they are all about being athletic or being american or black.
"but black people can't be racist, especially against white people"
This is actually the rhetoric in a current game development scandal (to look it up, look up "GamerGate 2".
That and they don’t like Europeans coming in and disrupting the country club atmosphere they’ve created.
i see the same hate for Luka too. They hate the Euros.
ENVY, JEALOUSY IS PARAMOUNT.
You can tell Gilbert is taking advantage of Shannon‘s lack of basketball knowledge smh
Shannon was the best NBA player ever what do you mean “lack”
@@DC4L_gillieyour comments have been psychotic
Shannon only knows how to put on cringy goat masks, drink mountain dew and fellate Lebron's existence. Doesn't take much to take advantage.
@@sirkevstah289 Don`t forget, he yells alot to make it seem like he`s right and knows what he`s talking about.
Look at Shannon’s eyes lol hes not buying what Gilbert is selling
Agent Zero was never known for his intelligence….
There’s a reason he is called agent 0
He was never even good or cool enough to have that nickname. He was a nobody. Just another chucker and he never accomplished anything.
Zero intelligence
The fact is that Jokic doesn’t even care , that’s why we like the guy !
exactly!
The only thing worse than Gilbert Arenas's take about NBA is Gilbert Arenas's take about european players in NBA. This guy should be held as far away as possible from microphones and cameras.
It’s called RACISM
No it’s not it’s call dumb takes
@@DM-22 Calling it racism is maybe a step too far , but you can no longer deny the xenophobic undertone from some of these pundits and ex-players .
@@charliedontsurf9155stop calling it xenophobic to try to take the sting out of it. Gilbert has no problem with wemby or giannis there's a specific type of euro that he hates
@@charliedontsurf9155most of the Black people in us are racist, and that's a fact.
@@WestCoastDon448 The ones who lack elite athleticism and compensate it with intelligence , skill and fundamentals ?
Gill being racist as usual
Hell no I’m not
@@DC4L_gillie Stop doing coke miss
@@darrellbarnes2096 take your tap dancing shoes off sammy Davis jr you ain't getting a butter biscuit
@darnellwilliams8783 oh no! A weak joke....do better ma'am
@@darrellbarnes2096 🫡🫡🤪
the only thing controversial about the 22 mvp voting was how embiid got so many first place votes.... there is no chance in hell he was better than jokic so the only way to vote him first was coming from a bias... if you accomplish less per game and in fewer games how does that add up to MORE in ranking
He may have outplayed Jokic in Philly last year but he's been ducking Jokic in Denver since what 2019?
The Embiid voters loved bringing up that Embiid outplayed Jokic in last year's MVP race but ignored that fact.
The problem with jokic for these people is that he exposed everyone. He is so good and doesn't care, dude literally seemed happier when his horses won their race. Meanwhile lebron walks in with goats gets called king and hates that people don't call him the Goat, when the only time he had done something great was getting the ring with the cavs. Meanwhile jokic working his 9 to 5, getting triple doubles, passing, making insane shots, and doing it his way not much flash but man is it great to see him play
There is nobody like Joker, the way he elevates his team is unreal. The nuggets are such a cool team to watch and it’s legit sad that some people seem to be looking for any reason they can find to hate on Joker. But like you said the dude could care less anyway 😂
The fact that this ringless hater is getting clicks and views is pretty sad.
Why listen this him? Why take anything he says seriously?
Because the algo rewards hate bait.
Gilbert shouldn’t have a platform
NBA commentators on CZcams keep saying they don't understand why gilbert arenas has this take but it's very obvious why. the issue is no one is willing to say why.
it's the same reason why the entire corporate sports media slandered jokic last year and gave embiid a pity MVP.
tl;dr: gilbert arenas is a racist.
It's simple. Remove Jokic from the Nuggets - they are a lottery team. Remove JT from the Celtics - they are still a top 5 team. Remove Luka from the Mavs - they are still in playoffs with healthy Kyrie. Remove Giannis from Bucks - they are still in playoffs with Dame. Remove Embiid from Sixers - they can manage to get to the playoffs. No one is as much crucial to the team's success as Jokic is for the Nuggets. Which makes him the Most Valuable Player.
I think your wrong when it comes to Embid they struggle to win when he's injured and we have plenty of data he's hurt regularly
Remove Lebron from the Lakers, they even become better...
You wrong about the bucks
@@maroonmedia2000Big Facts!! LeBalco James is trash, makes his team worst. 💉💉💉💉
@@jasongibson4890embiid biggest problem is that he’s always injured tho. Mostly bc his style of playing (including constantly throw himself to the ground for fouls)
there is literally no version of lebron that has been better this version of Jokic the last 3 years
Delusional. Nearly got DPOY.
There is no version of Lebron that has ever even been close to this version of Jokić
@@yyynbbggsage7398yea "nearly" but DIDN'T 😂😂😂
@@king-ghost1027lebron has multiple all defensive first teams. What defensive accolades does Jokic have? Also. Jokic didn't win MVP last year. Sometimes. Players get snubbed. Lebron arguably did
@@yyynbbggsage7398 that word sums up lebum. Nearly. Nearly won all those finala too huh 😆 im not taking any version of lebum over current jokic. And jokic doesnt even give a fuck about basketball 😆😆😆
“statistically the worst mvp winner in the last 40 years”
i mean what in the fuck is he doing. he’s been one of the best STATISTICALLY. how many mvps have shot 70% from the field in the season, broken the record for most points, assists, and rebounds by a single player in a season, and led his team to the first ever championship
also, you can put 2021 jokic’s 26, 8 and 11 up against any and every lebron james season of his entire career
I bet if you asked Gilbert to spell MVP he couldn’t do it on the first try
LMAO no bet
Can you argue others being worthy of his MVP’s?
Sure.
Does that mean that Jokic is undeserving of his MVPs?
No.
Every MVP can be argued.
Plus, Jokic’s MVPs come with results 🏆
well, technically not really, at least not yet. previous 2 mvps, no chips. last year, no mvp, big chip. this year, we shall see. if murray isn't back to full strength in the playoffs, i doubt they stand a chance.
@@laz0rama I think Malone is prepping the Nuggets for a playoff run. Would love to have the 1 seed but would rather have the 2 seed and be healthy. Minnesota is going to be tough, as will OKC.
Gilbert, along with all of his boyfriends, are simply scared jealous inside because they know that they could never match up with the Serb. I dare say because of his style he would be an MVP in any era.
I dont understand the Jokic hate. The man is great! I think they are trying to sabatoge him because they know he is going to pass lebron is lots statss and accolades
@GtheGreat1 of course a jokic cheerleader says he don't understand the hate jock itch gets yall stay shaking for him
If he wins this year, he's only 2 away from LeBron. Stats mean nothing to winners. Only titles.
@@jaceseldom8236if. That's a huge if. And then him doing again twice more? It's not easy to win 4 chips while being the fmvp. Only 2 people have done it.😊
@jaceseldom8236 but it's funny to see balding bitter dudes overrate the white hopes
@@yyynbbggsage7398 Overrate????? interesting take
He truly is Agent Zero, Agent Zero IQ
Sometimes I see this look in Shannon's eyes like "wtf did i bring Gil on this show" 😂
Joker is changing the game. My favorite player.
Gilbert is a $3.00 bill - about as fake as they come
The fact that jokic is the best player in the world and people are naming him thw "worst "mvp" ever, do u know the worst mvp ever is david cowens stat wise, bob petit record wise but gil will yap and yak to remain relevant how convient😅
much as i hate to defend any aspect of that fool's takes, he did say the last 40 years. both cowens and petit were before that.
I’m gonna guess it’s because it wasn’t a black player that got MVP over the Joker
Good guess
yep pretty much
Absolutely
Not even close... Embid is the worst MVP... they literally gave that dude the trophy so he'd quit crying about it..
At this point Joker could have 4 mvp's in a row, which would be historic.
Remember the gun incident in the locker that involved Gilbert and some other guy? That was HISTORIC.
And Nikola Jokic does not give a dime about that. He doesn't even have a social media.
He wants to finish the season and go back home to his friends and family and ride a horse 😂😂😂
Gilbert in inconsistent because he said in the podcast that you have to have a top seed but in the same podcast he was saying that Kobe should've won over Nash but Kobe's team wasn't a top seed. I'm fine with former NBA players having a platform because we get to see that just because they've played doesn't mean that they know what they're talking about compared to people who don't. For years players like Durant have tried to discredit the media and fans who haven't played but now we can see that is a bunch of crap.
Thr crazy thing is, Jokic could possibly be the BEST MVP in the last 40 years. LMFAO SMFH
They don't like Joker simply because it destroys their narrative that players are so much more athletic today. Who in their right mind would ever say Bird wouldn't thrive in this era now?
i'm sure shillbert farinas has said that. oh sorry, you said "in their right mind".
Wait,wait,WAIT!!!! Lemme see if I understand this correctly here. Almost doesn't count for ANY player in the league as a positive thing unless it's about L36ron James right????
Cuz I've heard all too many times about him ALMOST winning DPOY, ALMOST winning championships as if that's good enough.
But when it's about another player it doesn't count????
Am I the only one seeing a pattern here? Or did I miss something?
are you really just getting hip to the lejester cult?
@@laz0rama it was sarcasm
Dumb things get said for a reaction. Then several videos are made to react to it again. Rinse and repeat.
Nah. It's not for reaction. Gil is racist.
It would be a lot easier to respect the Jokic haters if they just said they don't like his playing style or don't like his personality. To say he is not an incredible player is just straight up braindead.
You progressively getting angrier throughout the video was so funny 😂😂I can't even blame you gilbert is something else entirely🤣🤣
The Jokic hate - is non-stop! They keep coming at him nonstop! They hate him sooooo much!
"It's not always so black and white." Apparently it literally is with Gilb.
I'm from Denver I'm a Jokic fan I think currently the best overall player past 3-4 years in my opinion. What's sad is of he was doing this is Dallas any California team Miami and or a New York team which I'm including the Nets he's a Superstar on the sports talk shows Dailey. He's in Denver and he's just a star.
The only other player i could find with numbers like joker are Wilt the stilt Chamberlain 😂
Who the f*ck voted Derrick Rose with a first place MVP vote that year???? That person doesn’t deserve a vote. For real, what are we doing?
Lmao it was probably some nostalgic fanboy. I do miss prime D Rose sometimes too tho
@@Serching4JerryGarcia yeah you’re probably right LOL
Yeah I do too. Tragic what happened to him.
Derrick Rose is the Most overrated Player in a long time.
JimmyHighRoller actually had a take on Tatum that Boston puts up better numbers and has better positive results when He doesn’t play.
Jokic on off numbers are just absurd, Denver without Jokic would be one of the worst teams in the league, 2 years ago more then half of his teammates are not in league any more.
This year without Jokic on the court would be as bad as San Antonio.
We're talking about this year...not two years ago. Nuggets are a well-oiled machine w/ or w/o Jokic. Not saying Finals contenders but they are locked in
Joker is literally unstoppable.. he plays the same exact way as he was his rookie year when he was a back up.. respect greatness
Kendrick Perkins said it all last year.
Gil-Bear is a terrible commentator, often contradicting hisself, says outlandish things just to get attention (and in that regard, ...he's doing good!). He is right in one regard though: "We are dumbing down the game... for the narrative." Yep, Gil-Bare, yup... the narrative of LeFlop being the GOAT! THAT'S the prime NBA narrative and directive, while putting down all the top Euro players (Jokic, Doncic, Giannis).
Arenas, Perkins, Keyshawn? Who has worst takes? It's unbelievable how that they see everything in black or white. Truly disappointed still...
I like how the fans and haters are fighting over this, and jokic would be like," i dont care about that, i wanna go home"😂
whats funny is that Gils take is the dumbed down one.... he cares about hero ball, shoe sales and gun sales
Hes rasist.
All I can say is if you watch him in person you see why he is a 3 time mvp and nba champion
Putting Tatum in the same tier as Jokic is beyond ignorant. Tatum has a super team built around him and can’t beat Jokic playing without a single AllStar
Embiid is the worst MVP, no conference finals apperance😂
Insane that Gilbert has to Choose a random case like Tatum even being near the MVP despite being one of the biggest underperformers in the post season lol. I mean Tatum is great but if you go hot and cold potato with Jaylen Brown every other playoff game you arent gonna be considered the Most Valuable Player on a team if you cant even seperate yourself completely from your Co-Star on your own team much less the entire league.
Sad cause we all know if Embiid was still in the running the slander would taken more seriously. Not to say Embiid didnt have a great case for MVP despite him being a bit whiny. But the man could ball. Unfortunately Availability is the ultimate factor.
IF your Ass isnt available for the most important games of the entire year we cant even consider your case.
One of the best channels, with the best takes on what’s going on in the league 💯.
Just putting this out there Shannon doesn't agree with Gilbert he just didn't want to argue with him. Sharpe understands why Jokic is great and always mentions it. He was just being professional.
Shannon said Nikola MVP this season
The best part about it all is Jokic doesn’t give a shit about the awards or his all time ranking. Just win and go home 🏡 🐴 🏆
The only question should be "Who was better that year?" Anything else is irrelevant.
How do you get CTE playing basketball?
Talk about a gift from the basketball gods….thy name is Nikola Jokic. The Joker and the DENVER NUGGETS coached by LeBALCO’s daddy- Coach Mike Malone, have seemingly picked up where Kevin Durant and the GS Warriors left off in 2018. 😅
hell yeah brother
Jokic's stats in his 2021 MVP season are near identical to Lebron's 2013 MVP season (Jokic has even better rebounding and assist stats), and yet somehow one is historic but the other is not, Jokic has made posting a near triple double stat on some of the best efficiency all time seem to look so effortless and easy that people think it's not impressive or historic...
Nikola kicks LeBum's heinie.
so the crazy thing about that argument is that jokic beats them all pretty much VERY CLEARLY in the raw stats... and that's shit everyone can understand... so where does the argument come from
but then when you look at the advanced metrics he just blows everyone away, he is HISTORIC in his proficiency and production
i'm going to say it without mincing words in many MANY cases of detractor is is strictly racial and nothing else... like if an american born, black player was doing what jokic is doing and in the same manner they would ALREADY be discussing him vs Mj and ignoring lebron's existence
these are facts
Stop. MJ has 6 rings. 6 fmvps. And a dpoy. Jokic will only be seen above Lebron when he gets 5 rings.
@@yyynbbggsage7398 well... no... of course this is untrue.... these arguments are subjective, obviously but even with that in mind, we don't just go by rings or mvps or whatever, it is always a case by case basis... do you believe bill russell to be better because he has 11 chips?... no, context matters, the fact that he had 1 good team to go against in those days and that the league only had 8 teams to begins with obviously makes those rings less competitive than modern day rings... that's just one example...
what we look at really, at the end of the day, when we judge players, is what is their on court impact overall OR we look at their personal dominance... we can definitively say lebron james jumps higher than jokic... but we can also definitively say that jokic raises the level of his team's play far more than lebron specifically, and more than everyone else we watch in the league...
like i said earlier, it's all very subjective how we judge these things but i figured out a fool proof way FOR me, and by my estimation and criteria it is very hard to make the case for other players over jokic and i mean ALL TIME...
and the question for me is, if i get a 5 year contract that i can sign any player historically to build my team around as the LONE superstar on that team, whom would i take first.... and lebron isn't even on the list of candidates for me... clearly he is for you, but i can't ignore the mental weakness and all basketball weaknesses too in favor of athleticism with lebro
@notimportant3686 lol dude played the race card. You are wrong. Jokic probably will be a fringe top 10 player at the end of his career. In fact. Unless they team up with each other(unlikely because both want massive amounts of money) they won't both be in the top 10. If either gets in at all as they are competing against each other.
@@yyynbbggsage7398 i mean "fringe top 10" player is INCREDIBLE... that's fine...
wtf are you even talking about teaming up for?... does jokic need to team up with anyone?... clearly he does not... do not put him in the same category as the mentally weak lebron..
who is not a top 10 player by the way, despite all the media wishes
@@notimportant3686 lebron is 2. Fringe top 10 is incredible. Yes. But Jokic and Doncic fanboys act like they are the goats or future goats. It's ridiculous.
The Racist, Mrs Gilbert Ballerinas 💅
Don't give gilbert the attention.
Come on it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out what his problem with Jokic is
It's all sour grapes. 😂 Joker 🏆🔥
Jokic winning MVP challenges Lebron dumb goat narrative. if he wins 4 mvps and 3 fmvp that’s waters down lbj career
MJ the goat
If Jokić 3peats with Denver his career already challenges Lebron's career. 3 rings in Denver with Jamal Murray and Aaron Gordon being the second and third best player on the team would be worth more than Lebron's 2 rings with D Wade and Bosh + a ring with prime Antony Davis and + a ring with prime Kyrie Irving and prime Kevin Love.
The Celtics constantly win despite Tatum putting up tour dates but this goober thinks he should win mvp. They would still comfortably make the playoffs without him
And then players say if you haven’t played, you can’t speak on basketball.
Meanwhile the players:
Damn Klutch is paying
I've said it once on this channel and I'll say it again.. hate to say it, but if Joker was a tad bit tanner, he would be loved and not hated
If zion was doing what jokic is doing they would be talking about will he pass jordan as the GOAT.
@WestCoastDon448 you can fill in the blank with your statement. Anyone other than a white man, they'd be praising them. They hate to see a white king do well for himself
@@WestCoastDon448 any person of color tbh
Great video as always, I would just add that Jokic got even forgoten by a voter lol MJ who forgot to even put him on the list ffs I cant wait for next Gil's take where he will explain us what he really meant and how we didnt understood him properly lol regards from Serbia
This is going to affect Gilbert popularity. Joker is no doubt MVP
I cant speak intelligently about the current NBA, because I don't watch anymore. I think Jokic would've been very good in any era, but this era is tailor made for Jokic and I don't think there is anyone with the overall offensive skill set as Jokic. Defense doesn't seem to be factored in, but Jokic is above average defensively. But the value of Jokic on his team in this era is immense. Arenas hates Euros and only likes black Americans to stay relevant with the Gen Z'ers. He can't believe half the crap he actually says
Jokic literally breaking Wilt's records every week or so, but somehow he is the worst statistically 😂
Man Nikola Jokic is the best center in the NBA. I'll have Nikola Jokic on my team anyday
Its in all sports and in all countries. Somehow because you used to play they think you have something worth hearing. Its even worse when they decide they are gonna be deliberately controversial to stay relevant in some way. You dont need analysts, you don't even need commentary. Im pretty sure you can decide what is going down without listening to these guys.
Former players from Serbia and former Yugoslavia are also jealous of Jokić. Danilović and Kukoč said Jokić isn't as good as they were and that Jokić is the best player today because today's era is weak.
I am black and i can tell you that It is pure racism.
Great video!
Gil has 2 qualifiers for who he thinks deserves an mvp.
1. American
2. Black
If they meet one or both of those, then you look at stats 😂
I think #2 is more important. He'd be just as pissed if a White American won MVP.