FULL KMISE PEDAL LINE - all ten of these $20 pedals - which is best? which is worst?
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- UPDATE: all these pedals are on amazon under the "Saphue" brand amzn.to/33fCEih
I finally got the entire KMISE pedal line in, I shoot out the new additions and then reintroduce them to the entire herd and pick my favorites.
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Digital Delay: ebay.to/39BFjCk
Analog Delay: ebay.to/3aIAGYq
Ultimate Drive: ebay.to/3bTCqhB
Classic Chorus: ebay.to/2V3hRsv
Vintage OverDrive: ebay.to/2xKThob
US Dream & Crunch: amzn.to/2OWS5DQ
Phaser, Tremolo & Analog Chorus: amzn.to/31VrAEj
The Pedalboard: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07...
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Snake Bite: amzn.to/2v7ZXfi
MuGIG Echooooos: amzn.to/387zs7c
CÜVAVÉ on amazon: amzn.to/3bzkvxn
D250x: amzn.to/2Q9SrrJ
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It's pronounced e and then Bay not abay
youssef kasim yeah, I know.
Its french..... it has a different vowel sound on the E.
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@@60CycleHumcast I didn't mean to mock or anything, I just thought that you didn't know.
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That look you get when you realize you have spent tens of thousands chasing pedals when there are $20 clones that sound the same. Priceless.
Yes it’s absolutely insane. I got a couple DemonFx TS9/808 Clone and the R4 G4 clone pedals and with an Argos (Joyos Precision drive, even though Mosky has the Accurate Drive (4 modes) and DemonFx blatantly copied, I settled for the Joyo. BEOD is My Uzi, G3 is My Darkflame. Behringer is My Boss 7 Band and the only thing original on the board is a Mooer Radar and EHX Nano LPN1 booster. Dang nab it I forgot My Saturn works Fs300 clone switch, and the VSN pro looper. It is a Reverb, Chorus, Delay, Looper, and tuner for My ambient or pretty clean break up to almost liquid synth tones just dripping. Okay I forgot what I was Doing. Stay in school kids!
I got the crunch distortion and I need to test right now
Nice review. Please keep the cheepy stuff coming for us working stiffs that want to try to make music.
Among the things I like here is you’re NOT demoing your playing and playing ability, and you play to the extent of demonstrating the guitar and/or pedals. You’re putting that focus first. It’s not a question of what you’re trying to do here. Thanks.
Ty. I CANT STAND watching pedal demos and dudes clearly trying to show off instead of just demoing the pedals. It's obvious as hell when others do it. I don't want to see some dude that plays as well as literally a million other people on earth try to run scales the entire time and barely tweak the pedals. This guy does it better.
To own a chorus with a fist on it is so out of character that it may be worth the money for that alone.
So I ordered the ultimate drive during the Black Friday sale and they sent me the chorus instead. I considered returning it, but I like the graphic so much I'll just keep it. It's a fine chorus pedal anyway.
the joyo chorus i own has a fist on it😂
I have that Chorus pedal, the orange Vintage Phaser (90), and the black Ultimate Drive. All are FANTASTIC values for their price. He's not kidding about that black Ultimate Drive..........it CRANKS!!!
Is it a dolphin fist?
Ryan, these afford-a-board videos have seriously been highlights of the last few weeks for me. Thanks for putting in the work to produce these! Will you do a final run through of your final board when you’re finished?
im not sure ill ever be finished, lol. Im planning on diversifying the serries into a few genre specific boards and ill probably do concept videos like 'worst of the affordaboard' and other things like that.
@@60CycleHumcast Definitely need a worst of the worst board, that's CZcams gold.
@@60CycleHumcast I had to check to be sure... I was thinking this board is just an ever changing thing, and may never be "finished." I mean, right now, every video about it ends in the currently best state.
In terms of its science though, it is currently in the hypothesis testing phase, so there is much flux, and fiddly bits. Eventually, you may find a holding point, which is like the best affordaboard you've been able to muster, and it can be touted as the "finished" board in a scientific theory kind of way. It may not be the best, but there has yet to be something to disprove it. :) Maybe you can give it the "finished" title once you've made three or four videos without actually changing out a pedal for whatever's being tested?
I love the idea of multiple boards too. Once you have a big collection of cheap pedals those will come together much more quickly, I feel. Maybe you could even do collaborations with other guitar CZcamsrs, for genres they have more experience with, and build a board with them. Like get things to a state of "this is the Metal board," then get on with a metal CZcamsr and have them test it, show them the other cheap options, see if they would tweak it, etc. Not sure if you can do that without being in the same physical space... could be something for the future though. ;)
Love this channel. Keep it up, Ryan!
This may sound a little silly, but I think it deserves to be said: When watching these types of evaluations, I'm not only learning about the pedals featured, I'm really also learning how to really objectively assess them. When I buy a new stompbox, I'll usually start off with the effect pretty low, gradually build it up for a couple of play-through's, dime all controls, then back it off to a setting I can live with. This strategy really leads to an endless chain of knob-twiddling instead of actually playing. Using your evaluation method, I can usually figure out the strengths and weaknesses of a pedal and dial in a rough setting that I like. So, thank you! I should probably point out that I've bought a couple of the pedals you've featured for the "afford-a-board."
6:15 I agree, when you switched to the neck on that Vintage Overdrive, I immidiately thought of the sound my BD-2 makes for me
Thanks for that time stamp!
I love the distorted/chorused/delayed tone!
A red chorus pedal with a fist is breaking all the rules, love it.
Thanks for the video, I have decided on a couple of these pedals after watching this so this was really helpful. Thank you again
This is the best most ultimate video on effects pedals. Thank you. I found 3 pedals that I want to use together. The Analog Delay, Ultimate Drive and Classic Chorus.
Kmise has a bunch of good pedals there. The Ultimate Distortion was amazing - my favorite. That's a nice Harley Benton too. Thanks
I couldn’t even wait till the end of the video to get myself one of those ultimate overdrive pedals! I got it for $17.77 as a best offer on eBay with free shipping! Thanks for the great reviews. I love Kmise products...they make great ukuleles too!
Fun video as always Ryan...glad to hear you're well and still have a job! :-)
so far so good, gotta keep the views up to keep the money coming in, lol.
thanks for this 60 ch brilliant assessment please do more!! . . .
Vintage Overdrive 3:46
Ultimate Drive 6:50
Classic Chorus 11:44
Digital Delay 13:34
Analog Delay 16:44
Both Delays 17:52
Both Delays w/ Chorus 18:53
The rest of the video is a mixture of all the pedals.
You're a god
Definitely needs more likes👍🏽
You deserve ALL the medals.
honestly the chorus sounds amazing to me great find
This was great. The lesson seems to be that there are some crap pedals out there, but a few of these are really a decent value. For the cost of those pedals, you have a decent pedal board for less than what some people pay for 1 pedal. Thanks again!
I just received the Ultimate Drive after a 3 week wait. Worth it! I ordered it directly through your link. Thanks for the videos, Ryan. I am indeed, staying grounded.
Mine does this thing where it boosts everything after it, a lot. Does it do that for you?
@@equalsequalsofficial answer the man davey
The look of pure joy on your face when that digital delay went pure oscillation is so relatable hahah
Love the channel. You have me hooked on mini budget pedals. Lots of tone for small money
Im suffering from the same issue now.
I'd gotten the Saphue version of the phaser and it's lit! Definitely a script Phase 90 all day. I came back to hear the Ultimate drive. I kinda have high hopes for it.
Thanks so much for all of your videos.
I was debating between the US Dream and the Ultimate Drive but I think i'm gonna go for the Ultimate. I also used this video and the other one to decide on the analog chorus. Thanks dude.
Please keep doing reviews of all these cheap pedals!!
I bought three mise edasfrm your last review Far far exceeded my expectations re,crunch delay great . Just great
Thanks, Ryan. I just picked up the Ultimate Drive. Sounds a lot like the Joyo U.D., or pretty dang close. Since I'd just given mine away, I was needing another in that ballpark. Great timing. Keep up the good work!
Also, have you thought of checking out any more of the Twinote pedals? I have the Pi and the Tube Drive. I like 'em both, especially the Tube Drive. Decent Tube Screamer clone. Cheers!
It sounds like an Engl Powerball literally!!!
i might do more twinotes soon, i need to get more money in the coffers first
@@60CycleHumcast Workin' on it!
The Kmise Ultimate Drive is their very best pedal It sounds scary close to a ENGL Powerball pedal that have been sold out and back ordered since NAMM.
It does this wierd thing where it boosts everything after it like crazy. I had to put it at the very end of my line. Do you experience that?
stop the cap bro bro
I just got the analog chorus the other day; I like it. I'd probably like the classic chorus and the digital delay a little better than what I have, but I'm out of money to play around doing A/B comparisons. I don't know that any of them can really compete with Behringer pedals, but they're still a step up from the FAB pedals.
Crunch distortion and ultimate drive are very impressive!
I love the affordaboard series.
Thanks for the review. Looks like these are a decent buy for the money.
I too like affordable stuff. I play a FireFly 338 and I love it. I also bought 5 of these effects pedals after seeing this video. They make my crappy playing, much more fun.
Some hardcore completist impulse in me loves the “I will buy one of EVERY pedal this brand offers... BECAUSE I CAN.”
The ultimate distortion was my fave too, although the red chorus sounded sweet. The two delays sounded perfectly useable. Good range for the price!
If you had told me it was a £2000+ Gibson I wouldn't have disbelieved you!! That digital delay was brilliant for sound effects.
Nice overview. I emailed the company and was told that the Digital Delay will do 200 to 600 ms of delay time. So I bought one for $21 [free s&h] off the bay.
That should read 20 to 600 ms.
I really liked the ultimate drive and the phaser!
Great review, just a note FYI. Harley Benton recently raised their shipping prices to $48.50 so you might want to reflect that for future videos.
That US Dream sounds good as an od but that ultimate drive is a great distortion!
I didnt like you or videos for some reason a year or so ago... I'm glad that I stumbled back across them, you have helped me get through this Covid lockdown. I'm out of work and revamping my guitar rig on a budget. You have saved me TONS of money and frustration.
I meant to say the Crunch Overdrive pedal sounds hella good!!
The green OD sounds better than my tube screamer....
The difference between really good sound and amazing sound is subtle.
Another guy on YT clarified the difference between the Joyo Ultimate Drive and the Kmise Ultimate Drive in another video I commented on, stating: "The Kmise runs fine on 18V. It sounds just like the Joyo version, but with symmetrical clipping. The closest thing to a clone that sounds like my OCD v1.2. It does lack the output buffer, like a real OCD used to, so it has that issue with vol jumps unless you follow it in your chain with a buffered pedal (I use a buffered delay to counter the OCD's problems in this area)."
That’s excellent information for OCD lovers such as myself! Yes, the OG Fulltones had that issue that’s easily solved with a buffer afterwards, just like you suggested. I miss my OCD v1.3, most dynamic amp-like overdrive I ever had… So after reading this, I’m ordering the Kmise and will be running it on 18V.
man, that overdrive pedal sounds really good. mine's on order as we speak. lol
These work good on bass as well. I own the chorus and the delay.
Great videos you make about these cheap but worth pedals! And what the great and crazy sound you made from 36:45... I will look for those pedals! Really liked how the affordable board sounds! Congrats for the channel!
These pedals are not bad at all👌🏻 highly recommend
The two pedals on your "don't buy" list (tremolo and analog chorus) are the two Kmise on my board. But actually, they're for an acoustic setup - and their subtle sounds work great in that capacity.
Grabbed an Ultimate Drive, and I love the character and drive range. It does this crazy thing though where it boosts everything after it like madness. I either had to leave it on all the time or put it at the end of my chain. Anyone else run into this?
Seems like an impedance issue. I recall reading that some versions of the OG Fulltone OCD had similar issues. Try putting a buffer right after it. Mosky sells a Visualsound clone for like 12 bucks that should get the job done.
*looks at thumbnail pic*
It's a rainbow of sounds!
Cool pedals! Just bought a few on Wish!
"Let's set all to double noon... Or double midnight"
Got me with that phrase
That was so ace frehley the delay hehe
You have some cool guitars behind you.
I love me some chorus with some distortion/overdrive
I have the Joyo version of the Ultimate Drive and it is super fat as well. But the difference I heard is the Joyo has way more range on the drive knob and also cleans up really well with the guitar volume knob. It’s an OCD clone-sort of... I’ve heard the Caline Leon Drive OCD clone is a better representation. Heh, that’s the fun of these cheap pedals...you can get a bunch and decide for yourself! 😉✌🏻🎸
Like your DJ skills 😀
I've got the phaser. Its smears the transients like a limiter. But it's ok. Not great, its ok. And yes, I tweaked the trim pot inside.
hey pal, after all your experimentation, would you say it's at all possible to come up with a cool 'ambient' affordaboard? or would that just be a reverb, delay, and a couple modulation pedals? I'm fine if that's what it is, but have you found anything WEIRD out there in the budget range?
So I bought a few of these and the pocket metal I have been using over boss metal zone lol It’s way cleaner sounding I feel like it has a higher definition sound. I can get a little bit more crank out of the metal zone.But It doesn’t sound better then the PM
That Ultimate drive is a total bad ass....you sold me on that and I wasn't at all here to see what the overdrives sounded like. Even tho my old Behringer purple Tube Overdrive isn't exactly a pedal I like,lol. Sounds O~K I guess with Bass fir certain things, but I have a boss bass overdrive and 2 other bass drivers and the Danelectro guitar distortion, the just super cheap one called "distortion" in a red case sounds AWESOME with bass, WAY better than for guitar. It works ok as a overdrive/light distortion pedal, but SUCKS as a actual distortion pedal for guitar. Anyways, thanks man! This helped! I'm here for the chorus and MAYBE delays..
Most of these Kmise pedals sound pretty decent and housed in a metal chassis, for the money they’re worth the money and you can’t really complain, if you buy on AliExpress shipped to the UK from the Kmise store they’re all £17.02 which is worth it to me if they last a month and break, which I doubt they would if you look after your gear, and then buy another to replace if need be, you’d spend more going for 3 pints in a British pub or two packs of tobacco.
Hi I love your channel! I always watch your demos when I'm plannin on buying a piece of gear! In your opinion does the Vintage Overdrive have a mid hump like the other tube screamers?
Lol. Please send more money so I can buy ALL of the pedals. Kidding. Love the show. Subscribed.
edit - sorry cant use the affiliate link... Im in Canada.
I think that blue crunch distortion might be related to the Ibanez super metal mini
ultimate drive purchased £14.99 and free shipping, a no brainer
Which one can self-oscillate in a more fun and/or musical way? Kmise's digital or analog delay? I'm deciding which to get as my first standalone delay pedal.
The Donner Yellow Fall is my favorite cheap mini delay.
Hmm.. I've been thinking of getting a cheap delay for an alternate board!
I have the Donner Eternal Bind and it does any delays you need plus has a built in looper!
@@mindfall82 really? I'll look that one up, thanks!
@@mindfall82 at about 4x the price
I was nither going to comment or subscribe to your channel... Until you mentioned you wanted me to know every time you farted. Well SOLD!!! Not only am I leaving this comment, I am SUBSCRIBING as soon as I post this
Ryan would you consider doing an update of your "cheers and jeers" Harley Benton video from a year ago since you've got some new HB guitars since then?
I picked up a KMISE chorus about a month ago. The sound was very nice; not too crazy which is what I was looking for. However the pedal had a really nasty pop when engaged. The company was very responsive and offered to replace for free and didn't ask for the original to be returned. The replacement is still in transit but I would say the customer service was outstanding.
that pop can happen with true bypass pedals, it usually disappears after the first use in a session. I think its a static electricity thing or something.
@@60CycleHumcast I thought much the same but the popping wouldn't go away and, oddly, made other pedals down the chain do the same. I am thinking something is 'off' in the pedal and some voltage/current is moving around like it shouldn't. I read somewhere about about bad capacitors causing similar issues. Still it was really nice of the company to send a replacement. I left positive feedback on eBay and then sent them a note explaining the issue just so they would know in case there was a bad batch or something.
Dorky Dad interesting, glad you got it taken care of.
Every inexpensive pedal I have played in the last few years has been a joy....makes my wish I was 16....Wait, no I don't....
YAAAAAASSSS...entertain us my dude.
ive got the ultimate drive and its almost an always on pedal now. i use it with the gain almost all the way down as a clean boost on a brown sound. i think its great 18$.
The fist on that pedal is exactly the same fist as on the joyo classic chorus. Same art.
black one was the best definitely great
Ryan, I gotta say thank you, again, like others here, for doing this. Being a "starving musician" taking care of my 83-yr old Mom in this crazy time, I really wish I could hit your Patreon account, but I promise when some things bust loose for me, I'll be back here to buy some of these pedals using your affiliate links. I have one question. The stuff I do with the bands I play in, I don't use as much high gain as you do, our stuff is more clean. Don't get me wrong, I've been loving these fuzz/overdrive/distortion pedals you've been demonstrating. But what I need is something that can CLEANLY boost my volume for a solo run. Have you run into something like that in these inexpensive pedals? I've been looking over the AFFORDABOARD videos and haven't really seen one that doesn't alter/add something to the signal. Something to stomp on for the solo and stomp on again when it's done. Cheers!!!
The thing is a boost pedal will tend to cause an overdrive phenomenon in your amp. Unless your amp preamp has a lot of headroom on the input cirvuit, the preamp is going to begin to distort when you overdrive it. That's why they call it overdrive.
@@krietor
Thanks for that input, I'll keep that in mind.
This is JOYO rebranded??
I love Joyo analog chorus and thinking about buying it, but if this pedal its the same, I'd go for the kmise size
Funny how this gets recommended to me AFTER I buy a few Kmise pedals. And ill agree with you that the tremolo was disappointing
I like it.thank you.
Hey, Ryan, greetings from Serbia.
Do you have any idea are Naomi pedals the same ones as Kmise? They look... the same. I have just ordered analogue delay and analogue chorus... aliexpress.
Thanks for the video! Pro CZcams demo tip: put tape down on your table outside the bounding box of your camera field of view. That way you know what's in frame and what's not without having to look.
how does that work when i need to zoom in or out for different sized objects that I happen to be filming?
@@60CycleHumcast good question. I mark the largest bounding box and then note the zoom levels I need to be at if that's necessary.
In my case I also just got more webcams and some really good stands. I use three for my live show, and they're set to the views I need for my ugly head, the desk, and a close-up. I have different scenes set up in OBS to mix and match.
It works better with physical lenses than webcam software, depending on what kind of cameras you're using. Sometimes the software can be very primitive. Glad to chat about this stuff privately if you like, (contact: juicyjones at Gmail), I haven't gone live in a while and I miss the "back end" of it all, being a one-man self producer for all those years. I'm proud to say I did all the motion graphics, art, transitions, switching, call-ins, interviews, and everything all by myself 😎 🤜
I'm not running a live rig with webcams though. I'm using dslrs and my overhead camera isn't on a permanently fixed location, its on a movable arm that gets adjusted to work best with almost every single shoot. I think our rig needs are very different and i'm not interested in re-taping every single video.
@@60CycleHumcast Sorry I wasn't trying to insult you, no need to throw up the defenses. I was just offering a production note from someone who has been through it. Obviously live is different than recorded, but tape and more cameras, that's still the answer. I love your content or I wouldn't bother taking my own valuable time out to try to make a suggestions. I get that having a youtube channel makes a person suspect of every comment haha
no offense taken, I'm just exploring the idea. I honestly don't think its the right solution for my rig.
I like the Tremelo got one myself. Just needed something very simple for the Wicked game/Run to you/Witchita Lineman sort of stuff. Not a big Trem user, I'm like you with the Chorus too, not for me.
"Double Midnight" is a pretty decent band name.
Hi Man! Are you ok? Which one (is dream or crunch distortion) is better and more versatile?
Only at the 2 first drive pedals. They sound awesome. Put them in boutique makers box and sell for 150. I tried waza chorus at 210 and I thought it pretty horrid.
I think both drives would sound a little better if the amp was a little farther into crunch territory. Get rid of some of that high fizz for you.
funny that vintage over driver sounds tight like a fuzzy dirty sound like it will be good for doom, what is it meant to be a clone of do you think?
Ryan, can you get your hands on an Indio Boardwalk from Monoprice, and compare it to this HB 35Plus? That would be cool. I feel like not enough people check out the Monoprice guitars, and they need some more light shed on them. I have an Indio Classic 66 (LP style), and I really like it. Nice, basic HH style guitar. Sounds good to me, and is comfortable to play, but I've been curious about the others. I've seen good things about the classic Cali (ST style) too. When I got the 66 it was only $99! The Cali is a similar price, and I think their stuff, in general, would go well with the Affordaboard. They've also got a $99 solid state combo amp with an FX loop to test with the board. ;) I'm starting to sound like I work for them huh? I'm just a cheapskate!
Thank you for this superb review! Got GAS!
I really wish they spent more time on effects other than generic distortion and overdrive
FWiW - www.amazon.com/Nady-Guitar-Effects-Pedal-Bundle/dp/B01CUWQ2S4/
Ah, I see now. You can have 2 delays in line, each playing a different delay time and/or intensity. Apparently Hank Marvin used two delays dialled in thus. This is the sound I'll be after when I construct my guitar, all parts of which are in the air heading towards Australia. I don't play guitar, so I have a bunch of learning to do, and I'm only interested in Shadows catalogue...
Kmise works pretty good actually
Ryan have you tried the Kmise Fuzz ? I can't seem to find a demo anywhere
New to your channel, I bought the kmise pedal , I have 6 of them.. they sound good for 20 Dollars, what you think about the switch it so loud 😳lol
Came here from Rebea’s new board video with That Pedal Show...$7-$10k plus board with parts and labor (guessing). The afford-a-board is just as good. Okay. It’s not close. But still, it’s super cool for the cost of one Strymon big box.
Jared Burdick strymon or as i call it Nice Tryman