Why You Shouldn’t Choose Cyber Security 2021 | 7 Reasons Why Not Cyber Security 2021
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Since I made a video about 7 reasons why you should go into cyber security. I figured I'd do the same for why you shouldn't choose cyber security! Obviously they're 2 sides of the same coin but I just wanted to give you guys the full picture rather than just the rainbows and butterflies lol. Enjoy! And lmk if I missed any in the comments or if you have a different opinion about them :)
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Timestamps:
Intro (0:00)
My experience (0:37)
Stress/Paranoia of missing an exploit (1:04)
Unsung hero effect (3:41)
Abnormal/long work hours (6:46)
No line between work and personal life (9:39)
Very high bar to entry for niche cyber roles (red team, etc) (11:33)
Many, many calls, meetings, and conversations (15:27)
Keep learning or become “obsolete” (18:05)
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Lmk if you have any questions or other pros and cons from your experience in cyber security :D happy sunday!
Are you happy with you current career choice
Which one is easier software or Cybersecurity
@@samihdaifallah516 In my opinion, studying for cyber security interviews can be easier than software engineering lol, but it really depends what you want to do!
@Miles Abdullah You do realise you are admitting to a Cyber Crime.
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Your videos are great and informative. The title for this video is totally fine. You are being honest and direct, nothing misleading about it. Thank you for your work!
Thanks so much for watching Millian! :)
Hi! just wanted to let you know that I appreciate you sharing your thoughts and experiences with us. This video was actually put on my Cybersecurity midterm in my CYSE 201 class.
Hey! I found your videos informative and honest. Love your content. Keep up the great work.
Thank you Sandra. I understand you better at the end of your presentation. The title called my attention. This is a great information.
Thank you so much for watching Fatai! :) I really appreciate your support!!
This was such a great in-depth explanation of the ins and outs of the field! Very well explained. Thank you!
Thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to share information like this for free essentially 🙏
Your presentation of all the points is really awesome! Thanks for the video.
Thanks so much for watching Abhishek! :)
This is really eye opening,so many people leave these points out in their videos. Grant Collins and John Hammond are the only ones I have heard mention the cons of this industry in the same manner. You added some new points though,thanks.
Hi Sandra, huge thanks for making me realize that this field isn't gonna be easy especially when you aren't really passionate about it. I'm starting college soon and this is one of the program (second to Electrical Engineering) I've applied to since this career pays well. I got accepted in both, so I really had a hard time deciding which one should I really get into. Thanks to you, I realized I'd probably die out of boredom due to my inability to work on a computer for more than 8 hours in a day/night.
Thank you for this! Very informative.
This was extremely helpful! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Hi Addie, thanks so much :)!!
Your content is extremely helpful and thorough. Thank you!
thanks so much! i really appreciate it :)
Thanks Sandra. You give a full overview of the job and I appreciate it. 👍🏼
Thanks so much craig! :)
Thank you for your content!
This was interesting. It’s good to know the pros and cons of every profession before you enter into it. But at the same time too, some things that are pros could be cons depending on the viewpoint and vice versa. Is it pretty straightforward to get a job in the cybersecurity field?
Definitely depends on the role, I made a vid on the top 20 cyber roles you can check out (czcams.com/video/MvB5I1Tb8CM/video.html)! I think getting a general beginner level cyber security cert like security+ helps too bc thats what employers may look for directly on your resume esp for early career roles, good luck Kwam! :)
Good pep talk. Thanks!
Thanks for watching Eric! 😁
Why does this video excite me to finish my certification and start working in the field already 😂
your channel is amazing andvery informative
thank you Khadz! :)
I think corporate IT/cyber can be much slower, consider cyber security is almost always the last concern of the C suite guys. Can also be bad in that cyber budget is small and you end up in a small team. Trick is to learn stuff yourselves at work and off work.
Thanks Sandra for your information
Thank you for watching! 😁😆
Hi Sandra this helped a lot , right know im getting associate s degree in programming and then Cyber.
Cool vidz only improvement needed is the back round noise sounds staticky
Greetings, everyone! I just had the pleasure of reading Sandra's informative and insightful input. As someone who's currently on the lookout for an internship in cybersecurity, I would be grateful for any guidance or suggestions you can offer. A little bit about myself - I hold several certifications, including Sec+, and I'm currently studying in the same field online. While I may not have any prior experience, I'm extremely passionate about carving a career in this industry. Thank you.
This was refreshing to hear
Heyo Sandra. I'm thinking about going back to college for cyber security. Do you have a video of what to expect at a work environment and stuff? I hope you see this thank you!
so true especially on the point of constant learning. In every single meeting I have with customers / prospects ( because am cysec sales Engineer) I learn about a new thing or tech or method etc... and I feel exhausted now after 11 years of doing this. You need to always read about new things and the experience that I built during the last 6-7 years lets say is not so relevant today !! everything is "NG" and if u want to keep up with trend to keep your job or advance a step forward, forget about a personal life or family etc..
Nah you're just being miserable and overdramatic
Hi 🙋🏽♂️ Sandra hope your having a good day!
hey :D you too and thanks for watching!
Hi Sandra. Question: I have heard the aptitude test to get into full-stack dev bootcamps are a bit difficult with only 25% getting in on the first try. Can you speak to how challenging the aptitude test for cyber-security bootcamps are, if there is one (I have found no mention of them)? Thanks!
It definitely depends on the bootcamp i would say, i have a friend who did a bootcamp at UPenn and he only had his GED so you can definitely get into one, for his he actually spent a lot of time at my college just hanging out and doing coding projects together lol, tbh learning coding is hard when no one is looking through your code when you get stuck, i would focus on a good teacher and good paired programming partner. You can get an idea of the bootcamps thru looking up the top 15 or so popular data structures to learn n try to build those out from scratch (after knowing basic coding syntax ofc) good luck Derek! :)
Oh i just realized you asked for security bootcamps too lol, most of them will probs go over foundations (CIA triad, cyber kill chain, basic linux cmds, etc) but try to find one that has partner companies that hire from them directly so you have a good idea of where to start the job search when you graduate even if its not a guaranteed job, otherwise any pentesting bootcamp that uses real CTF/hackthebox challenges would be awesome!
Cons are definitely needed to be said when people present any kind of career. I noticed people never bring up the cons of working in cybersecurity, because there is this constant push of getting people into cybersecurity. The way people try to sell off the idea of working in cybersecurity is almost like they are selling a get rich quick scheme. They talk about how lucrative the field can be for many people, but leave out key details of what happens to many who try to pursue this field.
They never talk about the stress level of working in Cybersecurity or the heavy amount of work you have to do in the field. They also never mention that for many people trying to get into the field that your first tech job will probably be a crappy help desk job where you are constantly dealing with idiots who can’t even find their wifi to connect their home devices to!!
Or ask you what their Wi-Fi password is 🤣🤣🤣
Is this for like most cyber sec roles ? Like if there’s 20 plus job roles weighing cyber sec. are they all about same stress and heavy work ?
i would say the bar for cyber security especially without any experience/degree in cyb/info-sec is not easier/easy-ish...i say that because IMH ive personally only seen it a few handful of times in my career, cyber/info-sec encompasses the culmination of best practices & risk from the whole scope of IT, thus on the off-chance of those who do get in with NO experience/degree, the learning curve is extremely steep, deep, & massive, not only that but there is often the "imposter syndrome" that comes along with it...which as you well noted, once you realize who the people who really now their stuff are, you realize how high the bar really is at the senior/architect levels.
Yeah I agree, after working with those who've been in the industry for 10+ years, the difference in experience/skillsets is massive, and it can be hard to pick all of these things up if you dont already have some cyber security skillset or are able to learn really quickly. Thank you for sharing!
Am doin my bachelors in Computer science like just started,,..... was thinking abt cyber security,,.,.,., this helped a lot. tq ,,, good to know the real situation.
also i heard most jobs are work from home,.,.,. not just becuz of covid .... like generally>>>> is this real or is there like an option or something like that././
Thanks so much for watching! This video hopefully helps put the job into perspective since i want to share the whole story and not just the rainbows and butterflies on the job lol, glad this was helpful to you! But yes, many jobs in tech in general are going virtual or partially virtual!
Hi Sandra, thanks for sharing this. Although Im lil confused because you said that you’ll be talking a lot & working with other people, but on one of the videos, its the opposite. You mentioned that as a dev, youd be talking & collaborating a lot so if you like working alone, Cs is the way to go. Could you pls clarify? Thanks 🙏🏼
What would you suggest for somebody transitioning from a science and math teacher job to cyber security with no IT experience? Get a IT help desk job to get my feet wet? Study courses from Cousera or Udemy?
Which cyber security roles pay well part time? If youre someone who wants to balance work-life
Is there Remote cyber security jobs?
All of this points are for me
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Hi Sandra, new fan and follower. I wanna know. what is the relationship between a project manager/scrum master and a cyber security professional from your perspective.
Hi Tochy! Thanks so much for watching :) there are actually a good amount of PM/Scrum master roles in cyber security bc for every software/code deployment for security apps, there needs to be a PM managing some jira board etc and cyber security professionals might work w them to ensure all the testing/QA/DevOps is done correctly and efficiently, hope this helps! :)
Hey Sandra, I’m in a predicament where I want to get into the IT field and take the “Bootcamp” route because I don’t have the time to get back to school right now. I had an idea of doing a coding bootcamp but once I started reading more about “ Cyber security” I noticed I’m leaning more towards it but these bootcamps are very expensive and I’ve seen people get jobs with the “ coding bootcamp” but I don’t know anyone that have done a cyber security bootcamp. My question is, is it harder to get a job with not experience and just a cyber security bootcamp in oppose to the coding bootcamp ? does cyber security require way more background than the coding ? Or are they both on the same level when it comes to job seeking
I did a bootcamp too and its harder to land a Cybersecurity job, but would depends on where you are too
I’m in the same boat at you.
@@llljjjyyyy I did a bootcamp and most importantly I learned to network with everyone you know and use ALL of your resources in your city that will help you in your job search
15:32 "At least in a software development role. You usually have some type of project manager or scrum master who can keep the crazy or dumb people away from you!" : lmbao
Can you work swing shifts like 3 to 10pm? is there all 8 hour shifts or is there other options like 3, 12 hr shifts etc...? Can you work as an independent contractor?
Hey thanks for watching! My role doesn’t allow me to be that flexible since i have to be online when my team is on (usually 8-5 or 9-6) but other companies/roles may allow 2nd shift/night shift where you can work later hours and many companies hire contractors as well, it really depends on how strict the company is and whether or not you need to be online when the rest of the team is on, good luck on finding the best role for you!
Very interesting video.
I'm also working towards in becoming a Pen Tester myself but my only experience in the Field is just a BA in Cybersecurity.
Currently working on C# and then other such as Python. Batch, Azure, AWS. etc before go deep into Security+
I have a question though 🤔 -
If your testing an App or a website to make it as fool proof as possible, would you normal go into a Virtual Sanbox of that specific thing your working on and use some virus or approved controlled methods in order to find any open ports into these projects, remedy the weakness and log them?🤔
I made a bad decision switching from web development to cyber security , i loved pentester role but nothing else , now i found that in my country we rarely have any pentester roles, i think i should switch back
Switch back. You could even consider moving away from web dev and doing another form of dev?
as technology evolves, so should the analyst, CIO or whomever is in that situation, but if anyone thinks that you have learned something and that is it!!! then you are wrong, cybersecurity is not! not, for everyone; if you are lazy then you should not be in this environment.
well cyber sucurity is not for me! thank you Sandra.
Hi Sandra, I think I'm inspired to go for cyber security instead of masters degree in my field(biology). What do you think?
good decision. cyber virus is more interesting that biological virus
Hi Sandra! I have a question is coding/programming needed for getting a job in cyber security?
Hey there! Nope, most people in cyber don’t code unless you’re on red team or ethical hacking and need to write a custom script or payload, there are cyber Security engineers that may write scripts for automation but definitely not required! Mostly it’s learning how to use tools like burpsuite, nmap, splunk, etc and knowing how to problem solve!
@@WithSandra Oh wow! Alrighty, thank you so much for responding to my question! I’m currently getting my associates in cyber security and don’t know anything about the topic. So your channel is definitely such a blessing!
@@fromthemoonandmybed congratz on working towards your associates! :) Good luck w your classes!
@@WithSandra Mam, did we need more certificates other than the master degree certificate to get a job in Cyber Security???
Hi, from the Philippines :)
Hey there, thanks for watching! 😆
@@WithSandra anytime! 😊
I'm graduating Rutgers with a Econ bachelor's degree this January. I'm 36 years old and have been working with my family's computer store for 15 years doing mainly hardware and software services. I would like to get into the cybersecurity field but have no experience. I am currently taking Udemy online course on Python. I was hoping for guidance on how to get started in the career path the right and most efficient way.
I did a bootcamp and most importantly I learned to network with everyone you know and use ALL of your resources in your city that will help you in your job search
Be confident and definitely know your stuff, do projects and build your online portfolio or at least make a really good Resume and CV. Leave thank you emails after every interview and say what you couldn't say during the interview about a mistake or something. Improve your communication and be direct and result-oriented when you talk. These are not iron clad but just in my experience haha
Hi Sandra, I have a question. I'm thinking about moving into cyber security from HR. To learn cyber security do I need a huge math background(should I be smart)? My math knowledge is not really good.
I suck at math and currently work in a IT sys admin role.
@@undertaker11ism pls what is sys admin role
@@lovinarae6585 systems admin?
you just need basic algebra I think
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Lot of edits but your cute and informative keep up the good work.
Thanks for watching! 😁
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Do you get paid time off?
Hi Kiera! yes i get a few weeks of PTO every year and sick days :) I think this should be pretty general for all corporate america roles that are full time!
AYE YO!! What's going on with the English subtitles🤣🤣
You mentioned that there are many meetings and a lot of explaining involved in this field, right? So you are not just looking at the screen for 8 hours.
Thanks for watching! Yes, I have meetings nowadays about 50/50 throughout the day, I'm not tied to my screen all day 9-5 but if I was in a role that monitored certain metrics/dashboards then maybe I'd be tied to my screen a bit more
@@WithSandra Which field do you work in? I am a newbie.
@@adhdfamily2510 watch the video again
What certifications do you have?
Security+ and Computer Security & Digital Forensics Certification from College, working on CISSP :)
@@WithSandra I have been in the graphic design field for about 8 years now and I was looking for a career change. For the past year I interned at a small IT company who helped me get my CEH. But I do not have any real job experience in cyber security. The only programming language I have worked with is HTML for 10+years. Do you think that can help me on my resume?
Hello Sandra, I have no prior tech experience or job experience but I am thinking about signing up for a Cyber Security boot camp, it's 13k for the boot camp and they say they will help me find employment after completion. I was wondering will it be difficult to even find a job after I get the certificate since I have no prior experience? Is it Worth it?
Idk where you live, but Experis academy has a paid 3 month course + they will employ you after the training period.
Hey amazing video! maybe cyber is not for me haha :')
That’s understandable! It’s an awesome career but it’s always helpful to know what you may not be interested in as well :) thanks for watching!
@@WithSandra why are you discouraging people? Pls make positive videos , inspire them
@@tazbaloch2418 wtf? she's not discouraging anyone at all. she's sharing realistic information. positive only conversations are not how the real world and workforce operate. get real.
@@ashleybobashly92747299210 bro I am in this field and nothing is ever easy but for your newbies if y’all watch this discouraging videos then y’all just don’t wanna get in this field ! Read all the comments and see that people are just sad ! Cybersecurity is amazing and it can be easy if taught and understood well
@@tazbaloch2418 I think you should let the “newbies” decide for themselves lol. I’m certainly not discouraged, but if people are, that’s ok. They may not be a good fit. That’s just reality.
I ask because the title sounds like just give up to me not trying to make you or anyone else sad just saying that it sounds that way I do not know your true intent aside from informing
Hey! Definitely not to give up! I just made this because i recently made a vid on 7 reasons why you should go into cybersecurity and those are all the reasons i’m in the field now, but i also felt like i wanted to give you guys a realistic full picture of everything, not just the good. I know a lot of viewers are considering careers in cyber so i didnt want to just feed you guys rainbows and butterflies band not talk about some of the cons, i still like what i do and i think every job has its negatives so at the end of the day it’s just about doing what you wanna do! :)
@Cindy L thanks cindy! I made this video to show the potential negatives to the previous video on the pros of cyber but my intent was to show the full picture rather than to scare people away, thanks again for the feedback!
@Cindy L no it’s definitely a warranted response and I appreciate the honesty :) good luck with your degree girl!! I’ll be rooting for you 😆
I'm trying to find a less stressful area of IT to get into. I'm also burned out dealing with constantly unhappy employees over the last 25 years. Sounds like I got excited about Cybersecurity for nothing.
Yeah I didn’t realize how stressful it is. How about a computer support specialist?
@@nicolaypastore I need a mouse. Can you move my stuff to a different location? Can you move it back? How come the internet is working for everyone else but me? Well, did you try rebooting? No, I just wanted to put in 3 tickets about it.
I went to college for this? I’m so done.
The title of d video is misleading and discouraging.u should have made it CONS IN BEEING A CYBER SECURITY PROFFESSIONAL.
Thanks for watching and the feedback Dotun :) yeah i basically made a vid called 7 reasons to choose cyber security and this video is just a follow up on that so I just negated the title lol, definitely can see where you’re coming from but some of these can also be seen as probs depending on what you’re looking for in a role, either way thanks for watching! 😁
Don’t listen to her boiz and girls technically technology is getting better and it’s the future and cyber security is gonna okay a huge role in the future so u shouId pick cyber
I currently work in cyber security, these are just to help people make a well rounded decision, every job has its downsides, cyber security is definitely still a great field to go into
Cyber is boring and I got out after many years. This video does a good job at explaining a large part of my own reasoning.
I eventually left because I was finding it deeply unfulfilling (you're not building anything, you're not changing lives, you're just ticking boxes and telling people what to do) and didn't like the people or the culture. It was very 'holier than thou' and treated non-security people as stupid zoo exhibits to be laughed at, that and the red team side of things was just needlessly vindictive and destructive. Lots of those people pretty much commit crime off the clock and call it 'research'.
The money is the only thing that makes it worth it - and once you look past that, you're done. I had CISSP and CCSP for a while then let them lapse because of the huge maintenance efforts and costs, that and nobody being interested in them. No point in certs like that where people will just hire a former cat groomer who came out of a bootcamp.
is the money good?
@@wbb4448 It seems not unless you're in the US. Here in Europe the money is no better than any other job of similar standing.
@@halfbakedproductions7887 is there other place instead of US?
@W BB Please don't go into IT for the Money bro! Fact that u care about making a lot of money concerns me
@@the5000show i already entared and its the first week and i dont know nothing lol not bacuse i cant understand but mintally kinda bad but anyways im sure im gonna mannge the cyber security correctly just needs time
I like it, i dont need your reason woman
everyone wants to jump into the bandwagon of CS thinking it's a cool job. if that's what got you into CS, you're heading for a disaster.
You need to slow down and change your tempo from time to time so that we can understand you and stay interested in what you're saying, the way that you present your information is annoying as hell; this is just constructive criticism.
Hi Fred, I can’t change the tempo of my voice without stopping my train of thought and presenting information that way doesn’t flow as well, please watch at .5-.75x speed if this help, thanks!
I agree. She mumbles and eats her words and on top of that chatters way too fast like a high school girl. Had to rewind several times.
You speak soooo fast. I am really annoyedd
hi tahsin! you can choose .75 or .5 speed if that helps :)
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@@WithSandra epic reply 😂😂🙌🙌 ,she is 100% right
Listen faster
@@WithSandra Honestly she speaks at my thinking speed so i appreciate her for not wasting words per second
Great video! This helped me a lot as someone trying to move from helpdesk to cybersecurity.