John B. - Thank You for your comments and thoughts in the 2nd hour about those who listen to this podcast in prison. I serve in the prison ministry in Texas. It brought me to tears to hear you acknowledge them. Your words will mean so much to them, confirm that the atonement includes them, and that our Heavenly Father will never give up on them. Hope and forgiveness are almost impossible to internalize when one faces many decades, or the remainder of their mortal lives, incarcerated. I NEVER leave the prison without overwhelming gratitude for my testimony and freedom.
Dear Brother Bowen thank you so much for sharing the depth of you knowledge of the book of Jacob and the allegory of the olive Vineyard. And your precious testimony of how Jacob was a real person and the challenges and struggles that he had in growing up in the wilderness, going across the ocean to the promised land and dealing with his contentious brothers who created war with their family members. I am grateful for Nephi and Jacob both! They were great Prophets of God who did a really great job in helping to prepare the people and their future Generations who would be taught from these books of scripture to prepare for the Savior Jesus Christ coming to their people in the promised land after his resurrection! I love the prophets of the Book of Mormon and especially Nephi and Jacob. They were great men! They became Holy Men while they were on the Earth. This gives us hope that we may all become holy men and women in these last days to prepare for the Savior's Second Coming! I love our Prophet President Russell M. Nelson and how he is preparing us along with the 12 apostles and the 70s to learn to become holy men and women and become clean and pure like Jesus, so that we will recognize Him and He will recognize us and we will be like Him! We will KNOW HIM. And He will KNOW US! Thank you to Hank Smith and John Bytheway for all your hard work and preparation that you guys do to create such a great podcast. I have learned so much through the years of all the scriptures that we have studied so far together. It really helps me to prepare to teach my sweet little Sunbeam class in a very simple way, all of the deep doctrine that you have shared with us . Thank you my dear brother and for all your hard work and your great study of the Book of Mormon and all the scriptures. It depends my testimony more and more each day that I hear this podcast and several others like it on CZcams. I'm grateful for this platform bringing forth your knowledge to us. I feel like a student at BYU in your religion classes!
My testimony has been strengthened as it always is when I watch your podcast. Thanks for your efforts and time and energy in helping all of us to Come Unto Christ.
Each time I listen I gain new insights. You two are exceptional teachers and I love the guests you invite on to share their wisdom. Please please never stop. 😊
Thank you 😊 I am 78 years old. I remember as a child trying to emagen what it would be like to be old. Now I don't need to imagine any more 😊❤ I dose go fast. But for me anyway - that's ok. I'm not perfect but it has become easier to let God prevail and I feel that the last will be better than the first for me because of that 1 thing. Come Follow Me and Follow Him Lessons are part of that. President Nelson and the Apostles - The Gospel Joseph Smith restored - I'm so grateful 🙏 ❤I am so blessed. The Lord has been so good to me and my posterity. Thank you 💛 😊
Jacob was 90 when he "*began* to be old". Enos uses the same phrase at the same age. I don't know what to think when my body starts to feel old when I am far from 90.
Don't think we have any idea how old Jacob was when he "began to be old." All the estimated dates in the Book of Mormon have some kind of a time-stamp like, it has been so many years since some event like Lehi leaving Jerusalem, but we don't have anything like that for Jacob. Now Enos on the other hand does give us a clue when he says he began to be old and ties that to it being 179 years since Lehi left Jerusalem which means one of two things: either he was realllllly old when he said that, or Jacob was realllllly old when Enos was born, like maybe 90 plus, or maybe both in order to get the 179 years in twoish generations. 😊
Love how he pointed out the correlation to the Old Testament and how that shows the BOM to be an ancient text. These recordings were a huge testimony builder for me. Thank you so much!
You are changing my life! I am learning SO much! You and your guests are modern day heroes to me. I find myself in tears so many times as the Holy Ghost testifies to me of the truthfulness of your messages. Teaching my children scripture that has taken me 45 years to figure out! The insight so good! Hoping they'll be wiser quicker than I. Old too fast and wise too slow-agreed! We will keep at the grind though right?! Thank You!
Thank you so much, Hank, John and Dr. Bowen. I've listened to this episode several times to help me comprehend more of the levels of the message of the allegory. Hugh B Brown's story of the Currant Bush and the Gardner is one of my favorites. And yes, I'm old enough to have heard it when it was new. I'm 73 and I totally understand Dr. Bowen's comments at the end of the Podcast. It goes by impossibly fast, Dr. Bowen. Enjoy each moment while you can.
Wonderful episodes, once again. My wife and I gain so much from these discussions. I was instructed in my Patriarchal blessing to study Jacob 5 carefully as I was to have part in the gathering of Israel. I always appreciate learning more about this incredible chapter. You've opened my mind and heart to greater understanding this week. Thank you.
I generally listen to your podcast on Monday of whatever week of study. I was really looking forward to this one. As usual, I LOVED IT. So many insights, quotations, dad jokes (love them too😂) and deeeeep spirituality. You are doing a great work. Please don’t stop ❤❤❤❤.
I listened to half of part 1 the read the chapter. I FELT understanding come over me! I was the slowest I have ever read. Now the rest of the pod cast is FILLING my understanding!! thankZ
Stupendous! Again - just stupendous! Many thanks to Dr. Bowen - to Hank and to John - and to your entire team! I so appreciate you all for making this podcast happen! I am learning so so much - and I love love love it!
Dr. Matt, The BOM has already been sinking in more than b4, and I have been learning more than ever b4, because of this great podcast and John and Hank's guests. Thanks to you for doing them for this section of our Book of Mormon study!
I thoroughly enjoy this podcast not only do I enjoy it, but it has saved me from many bouts of trial while I’m serving in the Philippines thank you and I wish I was better at technology so that I could go and find some of these other helps that you’ve mentioned, but I just want to say thank you And my prayers are with you as you press forward with God‘s work
Some one tell me when he said Hebrew hand means Joseph or yosfe, I don't get that I didn't find it. yosfe means to God shall add, again. It doesn't mean hand so in a way this Joseph sets the steps of the hand of God, the final prophet
The pilppins' in fillopino language hand is kamay meaning rotes, which is also interesting cause tanga another Nephites means hand to and they in spirit claim to be descendants of not just Nephi but mulec a stem of jesse also can find it in my study and pray I am finding Nephites exist today us Lamanites from messoamrica are claiming to be Nephites now and descendants of mulec, also notic my coat of arms I am a descendant of Tephie a daughter of King Zedekiah the same father of mulec who left to Ireland the same place Joseph smith was from in DNA which has it routes in Egypt of the mix of ancient Hebrew blood considering Joseph of markings married a Egyption, so the prophet is like some one who is royal
I really enjoy Brother Bowen’s insights that applies to the BYUH garden. I once had my granddaughter who join her parents living in some very poor soil in the world as an Air Force officer. She asked me, grandpa why does the lord put these people in such a poor situation and I was place in a place where I am blessed with everything I need to grow. How do you suppose I should answer her? Aloha!
Thank you so much for helping me feel the spirit. Thank you for helping with my Come Follow Him studies each week. I love and appreciate the work you do!
When we read about Sherem starting with the law of Moses and claiming that Jacob was "convert[ing] the law of Moses into the worship of a being which ye say shall come many hundred years hence," I immediately thought of Brooke Facer's story. czcams.com/video/3zrEiyCOQG0/video.html. Her family was associating with a group that was trying to get closer to Christ (a good thing) by not worrying about intermediates like prophets and apostles (oops). A truth, a truth, a truth, a lie. Gotcha. Matthew 24:24. This also happened to a family in my ward who were very devout. When you think you are smarter than God, and the bishop just isn't good enough, it all falls apart. Satan is a snake and has been doing this for a long time. Jacob was right to consider this an existential crisis.
I think the position that Sherem may have been a Zoramite is far more likely than that he was from some other people. There were no other people in the promised land. It was reserved for the Jaredites, then the Mulekites, and the Lehites. The time of Sherem was at least 50 years after they landed in the promised land. There easily could have been a grandchild of someone on the ship who had lost their way. Sherem says he knew the scriptures; only the Nephites (including Zoramites, Samuelites, Jacobites, etc) had the scriptures.
Joseph (yosep) is from the causative stem of the Hebrew verb yasap (i.e., yosip) which means "to add" or "to do something again" or to "continue to do something." In Isaiah 11:11 it says, literally says the Lord "wiill *add* his hand again the second time to recover his people."
You guys are so funny. You think you are old and so much has passed. Try being 75. You are mere children to us old people. But you are wise and good children. Adieu.
John B. - Thank You for your comments and thoughts in the 2nd hour about those who listen to this podcast in prison. I serve in the prison ministry in Texas. It brought me to tears to hear you acknowledge them. Your words will mean so much to them, confirm that the atonement includes them, and that our Heavenly Father will never give up on them. Hope and forgiveness are almost impossible to internalize when one faces many decades, or the remainder of their mortal lives, incarcerated. I NEVER leave the prison without overwhelming gratitude for my testimony and freedom.
Dear Brother Bowen thank you so much for sharing the depth of you knowledge of the book of Jacob and the allegory of the olive Vineyard. And your precious testimony of how Jacob was a real person and the challenges and struggles that he had in growing up in the wilderness, going across the ocean to the promised land and dealing with his contentious brothers who created war with their family members. I am grateful for Nephi and Jacob both! They were great Prophets of God who did a really great job in helping to prepare the people and their future Generations who would be taught from these books of scripture to prepare for the Savior Jesus Christ coming to their people in the promised land after his resurrection! I love the prophets of the Book of Mormon and especially Nephi and Jacob. They were great men! They became Holy Men while they were on the Earth. This gives us hope that we may all become holy men and women in these last days to prepare for the Savior's Second Coming! I love our Prophet President Russell M. Nelson and how he is preparing us along with the 12 apostles and the 70s to learn to become holy men and women and become clean and pure like Jesus, so that we will recognize Him and He will recognize us and we will be like Him! We will KNOW HIM. And He will KNOW US!
Thank you to Hank Smith and John Bytheway for all your hard work and preparation that you guys do to create such a great podcast. I have learned so much through the years of all the scriptures that we have studied so far together. It really helps me to prepare to teach my sweet little Sunbeam class in a very simple way, all of the deep doctrine that you have shared with us . Thank you my dear brother and for all your hard work and your great study of the Book of Mormon and all the scriptures. It depends my testimony more and more each day that I hear this podcast and several others like it on CZcams. I'm grateful for this platform bringing forth your knowledge to us. I feel like a student at BYU in your religion classes!
They never fail to get me excited about parts of scripture that I used to think were the most dry and tedious.
So good. This Podcast just got better and better as it went along. Thanks again and Aloha to Brother Matthew L. Bowen.
So lovely. I have never wasted a minute of my life as I listen to you and your guests.
John, what you said about verse 21 and the “poor spot” was so wonderful and full of hope, thank you!
My testimony has been strengthened as it always is when I watch your podcast. Thanks for your efforts and time and energy in helping all of us to Come Unto Christ.
Each time I listen I gain new insights. You two are exceptional teachers and I love the guests you invite on to share their wisdom. Please please never stop. 😊
Thank you 😊 I am 78 years old. I remember as a child trying to emagen what it would be like to be old.
Now I don't need to imagine any more 😊❤
I dose go fast. But for me anyway - that's ok.
I'm not perfect but it has become easier to let God prevail and I feel that the last will be better than the first for me because of that 1 thing.
Come Follow Me and Follow Him Lessons are part of that.
President Nelson and the Apostles - The Gospel Joseph Smith restored - I'm so grateful 🙏 ❤I am so blessed. The Lord has been so good to me and my posterity.
Thank you 💛 😊
Jacob was 90 when he "*began* to be old". Enos uses the same phrase at the same age.
I don't know what to think when my body starts to feel old when I am far from 90.
Don't think we have any idea how old Jacob was when he "began to be old." All the estimated dates in the Book of Mormon have some kind of a time-stamp like, it has been so many years since some event like Lehi leaving Jerusalem, but we don't have anything like that for Jacob.
Now Enos on the other hand does give us a clue when he says he began to be old and ties that to it being 179 years since Lehi left Jerusalem which means one of two things: either he was realllllly old when he said that, or Jacob was realllllly old when Enos was born, like maybe 90 plus, or maybe both in order to get the 179 years in twoish generations. 😊
Whoops, was responding to @eternalskywalker9440
Love all of you!! Thank you for your testimonies, thank you for spending your time with us and teaching us! ❤🇨🇦
Love how he pointed out the correlation to the Old Testament and how that shows the BOM to be an ancient text. These recordings were a huge testimony builder for me. Thank you so much!
Thank you all so much! I have truly been spiritual feed. Enjoy General Conference ❤
You are changing my life! I am learning SO much! You and your guests are modern day heroes to me. I find myself in tears so many times as the Holy Ghost testifies to me of the truthfulness of your messages. Teaching my children scripture that has taken me 45 years to figure out! The insight so good! Hoping they'll be wiser quicker than I. Old too fast and wise too slow-agreed! We will keep at the grind though right?! Thank You!
You don’t have to look very far to find someone that is in a “poorer”spot that you are.
Thanks for all you do.
I learned much from the Jacob 5 allegory about temple worship, the Restoration, & Joseph Smith (even his name!) from Dr. Bowen. Thank you.
You all are amazing. Thank you
Thank you so much, Hank, John and Dr. Bowen. I've listened to this episode several times to help me comprehend more of the levels of the message of the allegory. Hugh B Brown's story of the Currant Bush and the Gardner is one of my favorites. And yes, I'm old enough to have heard it when it was new. I'm 73 and I totally understand Dr. Bowen's comments at the end of the Podcast. It goes by impossibly fast, Dr. Bowen. Enjoy each moment while you can.
This was such an amazing podcast this time!! I so appreciate you all!!
Thank you, Hank and John and your wonderful guest. I would love to visit Hawaii, He and you are fabulous scholars. Thank you, thank you.
What a lovely chap is Matt Bowen. Thank you All 💛
Wonderful episodes, once again. My wife and I gain so much from these discussions. I was instructed in my Patriarchal blessing to study Jacob 5 carefully as I was to have part in the gathering of Israel. I always appreciate learning more about this incredible chapter. You've opened my mind and heart to greater understanding this week. Thank you.
I generally listen to your podcast on Monday of whatever week of study. I was really looking forward to this one. As usual, I LOVED IT. So many insights, quotations, dad jokes (love them too😂) and deeeeep spirituality. You are doing a great work. Please don’t stop ❤❤❤❤.
I listened to half of part 1 the read the chapter. I FELT understanding come over me! I was the slowest I have ever read. Now the rest of the pod cast is FILLING my understanding!! thankZ
Stupendous! Again - just stupendous! Many thanks to Dr. Bowen - to Hank and to John - and to your entire team! I so appreciate you all for making this podcast happen! I am learning so so much - and I love love love it!
Dr. Matt, The BOM has already been sinking in more than b4, and I have been learning more than ever b4, because of this great podcast and John and Hank's guests. Thanks to you for doing them for this section of our Book of Mormon study!
16:11 Hank, I picked Jacob 5:72 for my mission plaque. It’s a fantastic scripture and reminded me that it’s His work and He labors with us.
I thoroughly enjoy this podcast not only do I enjoy it, but it has saved me from many bouts of trial while I’m serving in the Philippines thank you and I wish I was better at technology so that I could go and find some of these other helps that you’ve mentioned, but I just want to say thank you And my prayers are with you as you press forward with God‘s work
Some one tell me when he said Hebrew hand means Joseph or yosfe, I don't get that I didn't find it. yosfe means to God shall add, again. It doesn't mean hand so in a way this Joseph sets the steps of the hand of God, the final prophet
The pilppins' in fillopino language hand is kamay meaning rotes, which is also interesting cause tanga another Nephites means hand to and they in spirit claim to be descendants of not just Nephi but mulec a stem of jesse also can find it in my study and pray I am finding Nephites exist today us Lamanites from messoamrica are claiming to be Nephites now and descendants of mulec, also notic my coat of arms I am a descendant of Tephie a daughter of King Zedekiah the same father of mulec who left to Ireland the same place Joseph smith was from in DNA which has it routes in Egypt of the mix of ancient Hebrew blood considering Joseph of markings married a Egyption, so the prophet is like some one who is royal
I am not saying I am him just saying he would be of this stuff, he is of Ephraim Manasa and Jesse, Judah
I really enjoy Brother Bowen’s insights that applies to the BYUH garden. I once had my granddaughter who join her parents living in some very poor soil in the world as an Air Force officer. She asked me, grandpa why does the lord put these people in such a poor situation and I was place in a place where I am blessed with everything I need to grow. How do you suppose I should answer her? Aloha!
I’m so thankful that you are doing this for us! I’m learning so much! 😊
Amazing lesson thank you brothers! Love bro Bowen!
Thank you so much for helping me feel the spirit. Thank you for helping with my Come Follow Him studies each week. I love and appreciate the work you do!
Thanks for all you do. These podcasts have helped me in ways I cannot adequately express as I journey through my individual struggles in life.
Thank you Brother Bowen for sharing with us on Follow Him. We love all of you!😃
Jacob 5: 70s.. useful words I could have used two weeks ago ❤❤
We do love you!
I just loved this❤️
Wow! This podcast was so great! Thank you❤ we do love you💕
Thank you👏😊🇨🇦♥️
Love love this episode thank you so much
Thank You so much ❤💯😊
So wonderful
When we read about Sherem starting with the law of Moses and claiming that Jacob was "convert[ing] the law of Moses into the worship of a being which ye say shall come many hundred years hence," I immediately thought of Brooke Facer's story. czcams.com/video/3zrEiyCOQG0/video.html. Her family was associating with a group that was trying to get closer to Christ (a good thing) by not worrying about intermediates like prophets and apostles (oops). A truth, a truth, a truth, a lie. Gotcha. Matthew 24:24.
This also happened to a family in my ward who were very devout. When you think you are smarter than God, and the bishop just isn't good enough, it all falls apart. Satan is a snake and has been doing this for a long time. Jacob was right to consider this an existential crisis.
thank you
Thanks!
Way to take these truths and share 'em, rather than Sherem.
Best Joke ever😂
Goodbye also comes from Go with God.
Two words: “So Good!”
Weather in Hawaii or in Burley, ID the word is the same!!!
LOL. I can scarcely imagine a day when the weather would be the same in Hawaii and Burley, but yes: the Gospel is the same everywhere.
❤❤❤
💙💙 from slc, ut, usa
I think the position that Sherem may have been a Zoramite is far more likely than that he was from some other people. There were no other people in the promised land. It was reserved for the Jaredites, then the Mulekites, and the Lehites. The time of Sherem was at least 50 years after they landed in the promised land. There easily could have been a grandchild of someone on the ship who had lost their way.
Sherem says he knew the scriptures; only the Nephites (including Zoramites, Samuelites, Jacobites, etc) had the scriptures.
You said Joseph is hand in hebrew, but I didn't find it. I found yad
Joseph (yosep) is from the causative stem of the Hebrew verb yasap (i.e., yosip) which means "to add" or "to do something again" or to "continue to do something." In Isaiah 11:11 it says, literally says the Lord "wiill *add* his hand again the second time to recover his people."
You guys are so funny. You think you are old and so much has passed. Try being 75. You are mere children to us old people. But you are wise and good children. Adieu.
Mmllllll
Awesomeness to the square. Love this show.