The Trouble with the 501st Legion - Scandal Explained
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- čas přidán 21. 06. 2020
- This topic is obviously a sensitive one and I hope that we were able to properly and respectfully cover it while explaining it in depth for everyone who has been confused, curious, or skeptical.
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Get your self someone who hypes you up like Greg hypes Michael at 54:00...
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Haha. It looks more like Michael is hyping up Gregg.
when you said that 501st members are "conditioned to spot errors in creativity", I FELT THAT. I was never a member of 501st, only RL but have since went inactive, and I have spoken to so many people who were excited to make a certain costume but then saw all of the requirements and "boxes to tick", so to speak, and completely fell out of love with the costume. Seeing that passion leave them, even over a DM or text, was heartbreaking to me. So many people feel like if their costume isn't "approved", it isn't worthy, and it's so far from the truth.
A lot of people experience this, and even more so when they try to do a main character and others prefer to gate keep over encouraging and supporting them. It’s a shame to see
One of the reasons I chose to follow the mandalorian mercs instead
that really hits me. I was so excited to make a costume and the 501st was my dream group but then I saw how accurate you need to be and detail to be done and it turned me off from my dream of it.
YES
I'm remember seeing star wars 20 years ago for the first time and fell in love. When I heard mr Guinness say the clone wars I thought nothing of it as a kid, but when I saw episodes 1 and 2 I was so excited about it as a time period. As a28 year old I started to try and make a phase 1 clone out of 2m plastic was going well but I realised that I was unlikely to ever get the CRL correct.. Didn't give up but a year later I bought a 3D printer and 5 months later I have a bunch of a clone printed and so happy to see that the galactic armoury got approved. I joined the imperial out landers as I knew I could eventually have modifications that I want to make the armour feel more real like buttons that have functions on my right arm. In all I will try for CRL approval but I am never going to let it get me down and I am going to support my friends if they way approval(especially the one close friend that I'm printing him a set in secret)
As a GML, I worked hard to balance fairness and accuracy with applications, and also provided resources if there were costume issues. A friend once said that people troop for many different reasons, and all of them are valid. That was really challenging but stayed with me, and I worked to embrace it in order to better accept people’s motivations that were different from my own for costumes and event participation. I am still amazed at the number of pets that wander into application photos. I burned out hard, going from 30+ troops a year for several years straight to 10% of that. There are still good people. MTFBWY to everyone!
Thanks for sharing! Ive mostly had great experiences with GML's, but I have heard horror stories. Def a tough job!
Same here
Keep it up, trooper! Your work as a GML is a thankless job but know it was/is appreciated by people like me. Thanks for being constructive in your criticism by providing resources in your reviews.
I'll be honest with you guys, a lot of what you said is the main reason why I don't really troop anymore. When I first joined, I loved it. Made a lot of great friendships with people throughout the legion including you guys. But as time went on, I started to see how toxic the legion started to become as well as my own squad. People taking advantage of the legion for their own gain, whether it was money, self-promotion, using their position to get in on exclusive events like red carpet movie premiers. I've even seen someone put so much effort and love into improving the things in our squad to just get completely ignored for all of the hard work they've done. No recognition, nothing. The squad ultimately became a little click of a small group of people and I just had enough after that. Don't get me wrong, there are still a bunch of wonderful people out there that still continue to do good in the legion and I always love to see it. But as of right now unless things change, I just can't be a part of the club anymore. I fully understand where you guys are coming from with all of this and now I understand why Michael, as annoying as it was at the time, kept bringing up that he quit. Love you guys and keep up the great work on the podcasts.
Nice profile pic...
I’ve enjoyed trooping with all of you at various events in the past. I completely see the bad behaviors that you are all talking about and I for sure see all of the good ones as well. I remember seeing all of your costumes for the first time and they all blew my mind. (Being just a basic TK myself) Taylor’s weathering on his shore was insane. I kept staring at Michaels paint job while at the Rancho Quakes troop. And Brian giving me a coin after a bday party troop he did for a little girl who survived cancer is a huge memory for me. (I keep it in my helmet bag and it goes with me to each troop). Anyways I just wanted to check in and say thanks, you guys rock and thanks for explaining all of the Legion issues. I am soo not a part of the convo I needed the update.
Good to year from you
John! Hopefully I’ll see you at a troop in the future!
i'm totally not watching this while having online class
I love that Taylor is FINALLY back on the podcast, it has felt odd without hearing his silence when he is asked a question xD. No but seriously it actually feels like the whole squad is finally back together
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A couple things:
1. Greg is the key
2. Holy cow did I love this podcast. I really appreciate the perspective you guys shared and super like how you guys kept it positive but showed the things that have to change. Thank you for this podcast, and for being great mentors, great people, and showing why you’re the reason we now have this positive corner of Star Wars.
A lot of great perspective here. Thank you for putting into words a lot of the struggles I've had with the legion over the last few years.
Greg is the key.
**Greg Is The Key** Also as an official member of the MMCC i can honestly say there is a VERY thin line of members from all the clubs not just 501st who just want to troop and have fun & those that only do high profile events as well as trash talk us because of not being screen accurate at all. But knowing both Brian & Greg I respect your view points since Im well aware of the situations that have happened in the past. Miss ya Greg & Brian I love your DW tutorials. Hope to see you all soon.
I’ve just started listening to you guys, and I’m thankful that I did - you guys are awesome - keep it up!
About half way done listening to all the podcasts on Spotify/CZcams after finding y’all last month. This makes my Monday even better! Greg is the key.
Thanks for joining us!
I just want to weigh in as a Legion member. To me, and this is just my experience, a lot of the negativity is mainly through social media. My squad, for the most part, is a group of fantastic people that I would consider close friends and even family at this point. I have yet to PERSONALLY experience any of these horror stories I read/hear about online. That's not to say they don't happen, but I have yet to experience it. We are a rather small squad, so maybe that helps to tamp down on the drama and negativity. I've been a 501st Legion member for almost 3 years now. I had only been in for about a year when I got married, and a large portion of the squad was there at my wedding. I think what's happening with the 501st is it might be getting too large, and the larger garrisons don't really have an ability to police their own members. I think the smaller squads and garrisons, like the one I belong to, don't really have these crazy issues because we're more able to handle any drama or bs that comes up, if it even comes up at all. Maybe finding a way to make garrisons and squads smaller to better enforce any bs and build a tighter knit group is the answer. Sometimes it feels like a good ol boys club, but that's almost a guarantee with any hobby where people have been doing it longer.
The elitism needs to die out as well. We're all grown adult nerds that dress up in expensive plastic and pretend to be spacemen from our favorite movie. I still have no idea how any sort of negativity, hostility, and dishonesty can come from playing dress up with your geeky friends.
I've got a wide range of (expensive) hobbies, and the 501st Legion has been, by far, the best and most positive group I've been a part of.
BUT THAT'S JUST BASED ON MY EXPERIENCES AND MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION
We have been in Southern California Garrison for several years now and I have the same experience as you. Yes there is drama but it's usually on facebook and through social media & when I started to feel wrapped up i took a step back from facebook and just trooped when I could... it reminded me of why I joined... and I felt better about everything. There are so many good people that work so hard to create a positive atmosphere... really... I think the people that stir the negativity - on both sides - have lost sight of that because they stopped trooping and got wrapped up in the other.... Maybe the answer is that every member has to troop at least once a month (not just once a year) to keep their membership... it would weed out alot of the bad stuff IMO.
This episode was really interesting, I recently joined the UK Rebel Legion group and I'm glad I now know all this before I got to far into the group. Thanks Rexin around Crew.
Greg is the key.
Be the change you want to see in the club and just keep your wits about you. Otherwise, give it a shot! It's a different experience for everyone, and you'll never know until you give it a chance. If need be, you can always walk away. It's just a costume club.
@@explodedweevil5537 Thanks. I'll try my best
Recently just joined that myself. This sure is an eye opener.
@Andy Morley Nice to see your still around chap. this really brings back good and bad memories. I`d say find another club instead.
I honestly have grown to love this channel (and all of you on social media in general). You all are so funny, entertaining, helpful, and honest. This video is so unbelievably truthful. I can't believe how similar my situation with the legion was to Michael's... eerily similar. Seeing what you guys do here is exactly why I still have passion. I do things for ME and that's what keeps me going. I wish so bad that I could be around you guys. Absolute legends, all of you. What I would give to build a 332nd clone with you guys. Keep being honest... keep being amazing! Star Wars is beautiful.
Great job on this show! I’m not a member of any club, but have quite a few friends that are. I came across the whole scandal on Facebook and wasn’t too surprised. I really admire the devotion that members put into their kits and the time they take to troop events. I’m not surprised whenever the drama pops up. I’ve been a part of other non related groups and have seen the same types of things come up. Anyway, thank you for your perspective on this and keep up the good work
All good points. You all were fair and honest in your comments and personal experiences & that is needed a lot, now more than ever.
I just finished my armor build (Sergeant Appo) and was just approved into the legion. I really feel that the legion should be about the costuming and the charity work. the main thing that pushed me to join the legion was the opportunities to troop and make someone's day. I mean yeah I'm a huge star wars nerd and I had always wanted to have my own clone armor the chance to show people what I love and see the smile on a kids face when they come face to face with the characters they have seen in the shows and movies.
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Honestly, I haven't been on the channel for very long, I found you through some of your suit-up vids a few months ago. Started watching the podcast, and the episodes are a nice way for me to relax and to have a laugh when I'm tired or when I'm feeling a little blue. Thanks! :)
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I love watching you guys podcast and love that you all are so passionate about what you do and the positive experience you create for others, May the Force be with You, Always.
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Great show! My first time tuning in... will go back and start listening to the back catalogue! Greetings from Ireland! GREG IS THE KEY!
This podcast is the best most whole hearted positive thing ever. All they want is everyone to enjoy Star Wars and you don’t get that much anymore. Love the podcast, videos and all of you have a great friendship that makes everything better. Great show. Greg IS the Key!
Another thoughtful and well balanced piece. You have explained exactly why I chose to have no contact with my local group, but support friends who build their own. I love what you do, thank you XXX
Great episode! I appreciate how open and honest you guys are when discussing this.
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Great podcast. Love the energy you guys put into every episode. Great episode with great info today for me because I'm working on armor to join the legion. Keep up the good work guys.
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No matter what this podcast has helped me grow as a fan and have fun, that’s what I love about you guys, you don’t paint yourselves as perfect. So keep being an awesome podcast and I hope to see you guys soon!
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Greg is the key... great video! so glad I have come across you guys! I was building a mandalorian costume to join the mercs and it was becoming super stressful, always worrying if everything was perfect and approvable, it was an extremely unenjoyable build, I’m
About to order an animated clone kit and this video inspired me to built it for me, not a group, and to have fun with it and enjoy cosplaying again!
This podcast always puts me in a good mood! I love watching and listening to you guys! and Greg is the key
I stopped trooping as well, and just kind of let it fade away... I am a ROTS Vader.. and I tried to make sure I was perfect to the little bits of Vader as seen in the end... It was an extremely costly build and I was approved on my first submission.. The problem started happening when my interest grew in creating a Kylo.. and of course we were trying to create a costume, from a few trailers and a costume displayed in a glass case.. The powers that be, were telling everyone how this costume was to be created, and what it was made of, and then said " we are right about everything " and of course, I disagreed with some of it.. and I then had a bunch of people talking my ideas down... my ideas were discounted,, and when I said that you don't have enough information of the creation of this suit.. well, you guys know how that goes... every 10 seconds, the powers that be, slowly had to start modifying the hastily made CRL which of course, everyone had spent tireless hours and lots of money creating.. it's this fabric, no its this fabric, wait, its this color, it's cut like this.. oh wait..start over... no stop.. its really this.. anyways, I created it how I wanted it to look, and I I just stopped participating.. These people.. "the powers that be" took all of the fun out of doing this.. and they are the reason I quit.. I hope their ego and narcissistic compulsions were worth the amount of people they cost the club.. I don't even know what happened after that.. because I am a normal person, that gave up, and DON'T GIVE A SHIT ANYMORE..
My husband started watching you guys and we met briefly at Galaxys Edge. After that I started watching your shoe alongside with him and I appreciate the show, your honesty and humor. Hopefully we'll see you guys again!
That means a ton! Thank you so much
I swear you guys never cease to put me in just the best mood. Perfect way to start my day. Greg is the key
I loved this one. Ive always thought about building a set, but didnt like the way they were organized. Proud that you guys were able to respectfully discuss this situation about the 501st and keep it calm and entertaining. And also, GREG IS THE KEY
I had no idea previously about all the politics that occurs in the 501st, but it’s so true that that’s what happens every time people see potential for them to have power or personal gain. I think that’s why what you guys are doing with the podcast is so awesome and is what the 501st should be, a place to connect and share a common love for something that inspires creativity.
This was my first time viewing the podcast and I really enjoyed it! Thank you guys so much for all the work you do! GREG IS THE KEY!
Greg is the key, love you guys content I've been trying to watch almost every episode, you guys motivate me and make me want to start my own show
I love how this podcast is always randomish and it brightens my day
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Yay Taylor’s back on the couch this week! Really looking forward to the Post-Production series.
This is the most controlled chaos I have ever seen on this show. That’s saying something.
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This podcast is literally the only one I listen to. And the only one I want to listen to. You guys always talk about you being unprofessional like it’s a bad thing, but it’s one of the biggest reasons I love the podcast so much. Love you guys and the podcast.
-Greg is the KEY!!!!
Taylor is BACK!!!!! Love your podcast guys. Your podcast has been a great escape during these harsh times and I love you guys, you are incredibly blunt and funny, and if people are gonna hate you because of that, it's on them. And honestly, Greg is the key.
Thanks for the overview on those topics and I know their is a lot of politics that go on but that won’t stop me from putting on my armor see see kids and adults smile and excited to see us! Good pod cast! I subscribed and look forwards to listening in to more! Gregg is the key!!!!!
One thing I always admire about you guys and this show is how obvious it is that you care about the community and truly want it to be the best it can be. Keep up the good work!
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I remember my husband going through the nitpicking when he tried to get 501st approval for his RC. He got in for Rebel Legion not a problem, but the guy who was judging his 501st application would say something was wrong but wouldn't tell him exactly what was wrong. It took him 5 times to get approved for 501st and it was all over a disc that was supposed to be on his boot.
Dude I completely agree with why you left the 501st, I’m in the UK and troop as a stormtrooper for fun mostly for friends and family. I planned to join the 501st uk garrison as soon as I got my armour before it was even built. I’m i life long Star Wars fan and simply just wanted to be a stormtrooper for the uk Garrison. However, having done some research in to the rules and regulations of garrison membership, I felt just based on that research I didn’t then want to join , the rules and regulations just to keep my membership active seemed a lot of effort, as well as I knew my armour wouldn’t pass inspection as I made it to be comfortable to wear not 100% screen accurate. I’ve attended plenty of conventions in my armour and had a few 501st members approach me saying you should apply and were very nice and a credit to the garrison, however, I also had a few approach me with no introduction and just say “your armour would never get in” then just walk away. So I made the decision to continue for fun as I love star wars and want my trooping to stay fun and pleasurable not stressful and elitist. Keep up the good work my friend 👍
It’s a shame that a lot of members share this mentality, and are louder than the ones that are genuinely nice and welcoming. It’s great that you still chose to make and wear the costume for yourself
GoGetterGreg - cheers, yeah I love it, don’t get me wrong, I’m sure the majority of members are fantastic people, but like a lot of things the minority spoil it, unfortunately it just put me off applying
What sort of rules and regulations does the Garrison have? I thought the basics of joining was just having the costume approved and doing your one troop a year?
@@kevinprahl1746 - not when I was looking at joining, although it was a few years ago now, obviously your armour had to be screen accurate to the absolute letter, and you had to do a minimum of 6 troops a year to keep your membership active, and you couldn't choose which events you trooped, you had to put yourself forward, and the lead trooper or whatever the title was selected who would troop,and if you didn't do 6 troops a year your membership was deactivated just sounded like a lot of effort just to keep your membership active
@@drscifi Its also nonsense, 1 troop a year is all thats required, the same as every other garrison. Troops are posted on the UKG forum and members sign up.
Thank you for this episode. Your perspective on the current state of the 501st is shared by many of my friends in the Star Wars Fan community (and hopefully a good number of others as well). I joined the 501st in 2004 for no other reason than to find out where I could wear my cool costume other than in my living room. Many events and great opportunities later, I find myself completely jaded with the entire club. For the past couple of years, the main legion boards have been rife with accusations, slander, recalls, removals, ratifications, in-fighting and more. I used to love browsing the legion boards to see what garrisons were doing across the globe and to pick up an item or two in the for sale forums. Now, it takes me 10 seconds to browse past the posts with 30some pages of responses lamenting the s&*#-storm of the week. A wise man once said "the only drama you find in the legion is that which you bring with you". I could go on and on, but you have presented it well. Keep up the great work gentlemen - I enjoy your content ! If Greg is the Keymaster, who's the Gatekeeper ?
Thank you for the comment!
Awesome episode fellas good to see the structure of the podcast coming together after so long. I believe this is the first time you guys actually have topics and covered them all lol
This was a really great episode! As someone who has thought about joining different clubs before especially to find other people who are interested in the same things in my small-ish area this episode was really great. It won’t stop me from joining if that’s what I choose to do, but I think this was a great reflection on the issues from a bunch of different points of view.
And like everyone else, I’m really glad Taylor is back. It does feel like now we’ve got everyone back together and it made me smile when I saw the Instagram stories pop up this weekend.
Also Greg is obviously the Key.
Thanks for sharing! I continue to be a legion member. I just try to stay away from drama and enjoy trooping to spread the love of Star Wars!
SithingAintEasy And that is one of the reasons I’ve loved following you! I’m all for the people that love Star Wars and do these things for the “right” reasons, it’s why I love this podcast so much. I’m glad the community has people like you all in it!
Really love how the podcast is different every week; it keeps it fresh and I love it
. I also love really appreciate how you take topics that can spiral into immense negativity, and keep them positive, but factual.
Greg is the key!
Thanks for talking about this! I am still in the Legion, but this is the very first time that I am embarrassed to say that I am a part of it. The idea is so great and beautiful, but this newest issue really made me think about the organization as a whole. I think I just need to get back to focusing on having fun and surrounding myself with the best people. Or paint my Stormtrooper Orange. That will show em! ;)
You guys always make my week :) i love getting the notification of a new upload.
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I am so glad i watched this podcast ive always wanted to join the 501st but hearing you say costume for yourself really resinated with me. Much love
y’all are seriously the best role models any star wars fan can have, especially now with all the drama that happens through the blessing and curse that is the internet. seeing you guys not just get angry at the 501st but also wanting it to get better is really good to hear, because i think star wars deserves a wholesome community like that so that fans have a vehicle for expression that also lets them bring joy to others. keep doing what you’re doing, guys. greg is the key!
GREEEEEG IIIIS THEEE KEYYYYYY, I'm not in the 501st and I didn't know much about it and I didn't know that things like this were happening and I'm glad you guy shed light on the situation 👍.
As someone who's been thinking of joining the Legion, I'm glad you guys did this. I still wanna join for the trooping, hospital visits, etc., but this is definitely an eye-opener as far as the community within the organization is concerned.
It is by no means representative of the entire community as discussed during the podcast. You’re joining for great reasons and rest assured you’ll get along just fine with those who joined for similar reasons- myself include. Only occasionally do you find dissonances and even fewer of those lead to any notable conflict. I’ve yet to experience anything like that after 3 years.
Super excited to see Taylor’s audio/editing fx videos on here! I’ve learned a little from several behind the scenes from a few Star Wars special features so this will be exciting! Also PSA: Greg is the key!
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This podcast makes Mondays just a little better. Keep it up
I love how this podcast created this amazing community and how it brought together so many amazing people.
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As an outsider looking in, and as someone that has debated on making armor to be in the club, this is still very insightful. I think that ANY organization of people can take note at how they operate and show themselves to be on different platforms. All the things said about the 501st in this podcast can be said about all major organizations out there (political, religious, fan clubs, etc.). The takeaway is to remain positive and do these things for the positive reasons you love and to be weary of the allure of power. THIS is why I've continued to follow and support this podcast. You guys give it to people straight, not to attack specific people, but to show people first-hard how to use their platform to promote positive change. It may have been delivered in a humorous and dramatic fashion, as expected of you boys, but at it's core, the message was delivered respectfully and definitely not sugar-coated. Love it, and great to see Taylor back! Keep up the great content!
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You guys keep me going at work, love you
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Thank you for explaining this! Very informative. I've been thinking of doing an armor build to join the 501st, but I like the idea of cos-playing for yourself instead of trying to be nit-picky perfect for someone else.
Glad you found Taylor.
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Greg is the KEY. Love the show, look forward to it every week.
Brian: talks
Michael: picks up button, presses button
Button: great story Brian
I really enjoyed this podcast. I don’t know much about the 501st but you guys make it sound like it has great potential with the right people heading it up.
Also Greg is the key.
Love that you guys are doing more on top of the podcast. Don't get me wrong I love the podcast and the episode is amazing so far but I love that yous wanna do more too and I'm really excited to see it. Much love ma doods
We’re excited ❤️
I love the honesty and real camaraderie of this show!
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wait... whos taylor again? seems like a cool guy
jk tho but i'm loving the zoom in that you guys did with all of the expressions, cracks me up every time. super excited for the other contents that you'll be posting I've been binge watching your podcasts this past few weeks and you never fail to make me laugh like an idiot
keep up with the awesome work guys!
also yes, GR-3GO IS THE KEY!!!
Thank you for all you have said on the legion stuff. You hit all the notes and I agree 100% and at the end of the day I want to raise money for charity and bring smiles to those around me.
Thank you 🙏🤟
Keep up the great work! Greetings from the Florida Garrison!
@@explodedweevil5537 You as well!! Greetings from British Columbia 🇨🇦
Loved the thoughts. I had been thinking of finding a local division lately. Greg is the key.
a daunting first video to watch!! thankfully Greg is the key.
They aren’t all this tricky lol
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I really didn’t know that there was much going on with the 501st, but I am glad to learn about this, and I honestly enjoyed the episode so much. It’s nice to hear what you guys have to say about this kind of stuff.
Greg is the key. This was an awesome podcast. Thanks for the great information!
I enjoy your podcasts and listen while I work.
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Okok-
I'm obviously not finished with the video yet but about the GreggPO picture (btw all I'm gonna say now is not just because I'd like to ""win"" the picture, but because I really wanna express my thoughts)
I think you should know how much I love the podcast, for example through the "bunch" of fanart I created (and will create *cough* ). Your podcast helped and helps me through a lot and the community you've created is absolutely wonderful. I recently joined the Discord (thanks to Dale) and the first second in already felt SO amazing, the way everybody greeted me. I couldn't imagine how my life would look like right now, without you, the podcast, and this incredible community. You're part of the reason I started my art account. I never thought I'd come so far and you helped me achieve that, you even MENTIONED ME in the PODCAST. Like what?! That is still so surreal.
So thank you so much Michael, Taylor, Brian and Greg for doing all of this, you have no idea how grateful I am to be part of this community and I hope one day I'll get the chance to tell you that in person, even if that seems impossible right now.
May the Force be with you and remember ; Greg IS the key.
Wow! Thanks so much for the kind words. We appreciate you and are glad you’re here with us ❤️
Greg is the key. And I love your guys's podcast! I'm currently going through all of them. I've listened to quite a few of them, but not the ones about The Clone Wars because me and my sister are going through all of The Clone Wars series's. See you in 10 weeks Taylor!
I know I am couple months late but glad I saw this episode. I am about to get my first ever clone armor and was debating trying to get into the 501st. I am glad I saw this episode and could get some solid information about. I have been apart of multiple non profits and I left one for the same exact reason so thank you for sharing also...
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Love hearing about this so I can be more informed. Greg is the key!!
One of the best podcasts yet!!!! Oh and Greg is the key. :)
Wow - such a fascinating episode. I have to admit, I'm one of the people that wanted to join the "Rebel" version of the 501st (as my goal was to be Obi-Wan/ ROTS). I really wanted to blend the worlds of Star Wars Cosplay and doing charity work (as I think it's so important to give back to the communities in which we live and work). This has made me aware (and I know you all said, "Don't NOT join" (in one way or another) but it confirmed what I feared - that politics and "power," corrupt. I've seen it at work, within the co-op I live in and I've experienced it in community theater (where I thought I had a "creative home" full of like-minded "Creatives" - only to find it was about "who has seniority and what THEY want to do and see and be seen IN." So, after all this rambling - THANKS for bringing up this topic and coloring it with some of your experiences. I think I will do what Michael suggested - just "Cosplay" and "be creative" for myself - at maybe something like NYCC (if it happens this year). Thank you guys for a great and informative episode.
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Loved the episode gentleman, great seeing the four of you all together. The one thing you guys missed....droid content.....anyways I'm looking forward to what Taylor will be creating. Hopefully we'll get to see him every once in awhile back on the couch.
Droids don't talk back Dan! LOL
@@sithingainteasy5116 you have no idea Brian. We're working on custom personality chips....I'm having one made for J5 with soundbites from the movie.
I've been watching since you've done the troops and made that content. The 501st has been something I've wanted to join for a long time now and this really sheds light on the inside of whats going on. Having second thoughts so thanks for this. Greg Is the Key
Like everything in life, just choose wisely who you associate yourself with. I continue to be a member and enjoy trooping very much.
Same here. Joining the 501st remains one of the best decisions I’ve ever made. Is the organization perfect? Hell no. What large club is? For that matter, I’m sure the business world has no shortage of controversies. They simply have full blown PR and Legal teams to keep things under wraps. Naturally, we don’t hear about it as much or see inside the organizations.
Like working for a company, you’ll find people you agree with and those you don’t, but if you want to be happy while “working”, then simply be cordial and do your job- even if you have to decompress from working with certain people afterwards. Don’t get me wring though, the friendships I have made make it all worth it and then some.
Brilliant Podcast. And Excellent perspective on the Legion. Thank you.
You guys hit it right on the head. Brian is the best person to have on for this topic. I still wont stop trooping and im still pround to be a part of the 501st because of all the positive people like Brian
Keep on trooping and never stop if you can help it! If you do, do it on your own accord. Don’t let anyone else discourage you.
Thanks Rene!
This show gets better and better with every episode!!
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what a amazing podcast show after every show i look forward to the next one!
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Had the thought of seeking out a local 501st squadron to check out and maybe join... started to research them and ran across this episode.....
I'm thankful for your info, saved me from an unwanted headache...
I'd rather find a group that does some of the things that the 501st does but on a much smaller scale...
Thanks for what you do!
MTFBWY
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Another great show!!
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Super insightful, love seeing Taylor back, Greg is the key
A lot of the stuff you discussed is why I left the group 5-6 years ago. Bravo for having the discussion in public
AYE Taylor is back!! Can't wait for those clone wars figures to come out, only recently started collecting the black series and wanted the clones the most. Great way to avoid studying for an exam tomorrow.
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Check out Timberline Garrison in Idaho. I am so glad to be a part of it, as everyone is so kind and just a big family. I just hope all other Garrisons can strive to make the change to be more positive.
I really enjoyed this, I have been debating on whether or not to join the 501st and this really helped me out! . . Greg is the KEY
This is deck my favourite podcast and now that I'm home I can always watch every podcast while I make star wars helmets. And it's great to see Taylor back
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Great episode, glad to see Taylor back. Love you guys! GREGG IS THE KEY!
This week on the Rexin_Around show: For the first time, this incredible podcast has introduced a somewhat structured format. Not only that, but there is the return of the legend Taylor. We now know where he is, but Who's Taylor?
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I cosplay myself and have a few friends who are in the legion they have a positive attitude, doing a lot good work for charity etc but some of their stories concerning CRL standards are daunting to say the least. I'am a member of a couple of smaller cosplay groups who do it for fun with little drama or no elitism. Great podcast people.
My friends from the 501st posted this to FB and I got know my local 501st through doing charity events. I was apart of DC east and did charity stuff with/ through them as robin/redhood, but the things you are about is what happens when groups get to big and I can see how feeling would get hurt with losing out to go to big named events.
Thanks for this guys. It mirrors a lot of my own thoughts about the Club and why we have gotten where we are now. The history of our Club is basically just consistently refusing to deal with our cultural problems. Thanks for making the video and for those of you who are still members, double kudos. It is a bad atmosphere and you clearly show here that you are aware of the types that will come after you just for speaking honestly your thoughts.
I loved this episode. You guys are great and it's good to see Taylor again.
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Good episode. Ive been working om getting in the mercs. Not 501st but i have thought about trying for it. Still up in the air lol.
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I've been wanting to join the 501st for at least 5 years. Money or time was always but this month I finally was able to get approved. Of course with no in person troops I haven't had a time to meet face to face with my local leadership but in conversations I've had they seem like a great group of people. I like Brian have been involved with lots of different groups for different hobbies and it's true that there's always people in it for the wrong reasons and spreading toxicity. This pod made me a little nervous about the fact that I've joined and I hope to have the great experiences that I've heard of with it. I grew up with scouts and saw alot of issues there but I made alot of good memories there too so I hope the 501st will be the same. If anyone reads this and has advice for a new member I'd love to hear it. Thanks in advance! Keep up the great content guys!
Honestly, just troop and approach your local leadership with misconduct if/when you see it. If they are complacent in response, go up the chain of command until you find someone who cares.
Otherwise, just troop. Get out, and like Michael alluded to, make children smile. Dance, wave, high-five, and have fun. Spend time and get to know a few members but, as with any group, there'll probably be people you politely disagree with on other aspects of life (e.g. politics, religion, etc.). That's perfectly fine too. Just be polite in greeting them at troops and in saying goodbye. You don't have to get along with everyone. Just be cordial as a formality.
Troop and Have fun!
@@explodedweevil5537 Well said!