78rpm: a guide to playback

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  • čas přidán 11. 03. 2018
  • In this video we explore some history of 78rpm records and the correct way to reproduce them, spanning from old to modern recordings!
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    Music credits:
    Kitty, Daisy & Lewis: 'Smoking in Heaven' (Sunday Best)
    Lead Belly: 'Negro sinful songs' (Musicraft)
    Casadei e Premuda: 'Mi Alma' (Carisch)
    The McGuire Sisters: 'Endless' (Coral)
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    Esoteric Sound (Rek-o-Kut and cartridges):
    www.esotericsound.com/CartSty...
    Audiotechnica AT-MONO3/SP (the best, for me!):
    (US): amzn.to/2RUW6rA
    (UK): amzn.to/2RWviY4
    (IT): amzn.to/2PWGRRx
    Audiotechnica VM670SP:
    (US): amzn.to/2K6MsPK
    (UK): amzn.to/2QIG97R
    (IT): amzn.to/2B6zQ8x
    Audio Affair selection of cartridges:
    www.audioaffair.co.uk/hifi/tur...
    Miyajima mono cartridges (high-end):
    www.miyajima-lab.com/e-mono.html
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    The Great 78 Project:
    great78.archive.org/
    Where to find 78rpm records?
    Ebay or, better, flea markets and garage sales! Start the hunt!
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Komentáře • 286

  • @doe9de995
    @doe9de995 Před 5 lety +35

    Anyone else feel like his voice is very soothing

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 5 lety +3

      Thank you! That is the first time someone says that to me...in my newer videos I am a little more boomy...

    • @denniswolfe3871
      @denniswolfe3871 Před 4 lety

      Yes very much so I think he's awesome.

    • @joshcandelario5548
      @joshcandelario5548 Před 3 lety

      Yes!

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 3 lety

      @jim doe Hi! Which one? I don't remember the video anymore...at which minute?

    • @joshualieder7524
      @joshualieder7524 Před 3 lety

      What is the easiest cheapist way to listen to 78 rpm?

  • @OldiesAl
    @OldiesAl Před 5 lety +18

    I was really looking forward to hearing the battered Caruso record you kept teasing us with. As an avid 78 collector and uploader I appreciate anything that can help in bringing out the best in especially early records, my earliest is 1898.

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 5 lety +4

      It is almoat unlisteable, that is why I was holding it that way!

    • @jasonbyington800
      @jasonbyington800 Před 4 lety

      Is yours a Berliner record? My earliest is a 1904 Victor monarch record.

    • @toneyisaiah3556
      @toneyisaiah3556 Před 2 lety

      Sir, you don't see a lot of the
      Polydor 78 rpm records
      very often.

    • @toneyisaiah3556
      @toneyisaiah3556 Před 2 lety

      But I have some of them
      From the seventies and the eighties.

    • @toneyisaiah3556
      @toneyisaiah3556 Před 2 lety

      Polydor has long history.

  • @joesimon544
    @joesimon544 Před rokem +3

    I play my 78's with steel needles on my vintage 1927 Victrola and my 1918 Brunswick phonograph. And they sound wonderful.

  • @hyzercreek
    @hyzercreek Před 5 lety +40

    It's not millimeter!!!!!!!!!! It's mil which is 1/1000 inch.
    It has a 3 mil groove which means 0.003 inch.

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 5 lety +10

      Yup! Can't be mm that is for sure...thanks for pointing that out!

    • @hyzercreek
      @hyzercreek Před 3 lety +1

      @@anadialog You're welcome, a 3 mil groove means the radius of curvature of the needle is 3/1000 of an inch. 3/1000 of an inch is 3 mil

  • @gabrielgolden4336
    @gabrielgolden4336 Před 5 lety +40

    I'm taking a drink every time he says 'typology.'

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 5 lety +6

      😂

    • @patdthomas
      @patdthomas Před 4 lety +2

      Add "Umm" and you'll never make it to the end of the video.

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 4 lety +6

      I agree. These are my first videos. Check the new ones...I have improved (at least I think) ;-)

    • @836dmar
      @836dmar Před 4 lety

      Stole my comment! But great information. Thanks!

    • @coastercrafter1productions300
      @coastercrafter1productions300 Před 3 lety

      Typologist

  • @donaldscheer5206
    @donaldscheer5206 Před 5 lety +9

    I'm an Audiophile (Not an Audiosnob!) and I enjoy your Videos Very Much! You spend Quality time sharing analog formats and at times Digital, But what really makes ALL your Videos enjoyable is how you articulate each explanation from Your Perspective (What You Enjoy/Like about a Recorded Format, Audio Equipment or Tune! Thank you! Great stuff!

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 5 lety

      Thanks for this nice comment Donald!

  • @2574mcu
    @2574mcu Před 4 lety +5

    They sound really good especially the last record.

  • @b00gi3
    @b00gi3 Před 4 lety

    Really great video so far. Look forward to watching the rest of it soon.

  • @gardenstatestacker1879
    @gardenstatestacker1879 Před 3 lety +2

    I just purchased a 1908 victer victrola, there is a gentleman who restores them and I cannot wait until I pick it up, definitely a piece a Jersey history

  • @ConcertGrande
    @ConcertGrande Před 2 lety

    I really like your explanations about 78 rpm records. You are surrounded by records and I am in perfect harmony with a similar one
    I am 70 years old and music, whatever the format, has been a daily pleasure since my childhood . Bravo, you are a good guy and I salute you from France! Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!

  • @darbinga
    @darbinga Před 5 lety +2

    i was so interesting, never ever think that will be so interested in old records:)

  • @teacfan1080
    @teacfan1080 Před 3 lety +2

    i have a modern 78 rpm on the Rivermont label. They do swing, dance and other 1930's big band type songs. The one I have is "Down in the Gallion" by Andy Schumm and his flatland gang. It was recorded in 2019, as it states this on the record. It is micro-groove and in stereo. Sounds unbelievable! The label of the record is designed to have that "30's" look to it. Even the paper sleeve looks like the period too.

  • @MusicalHifi54
    @MusicalHifi54 Před 3 lety +1

    I thoroughly enjoyed this video!

  • @danvoight9393
    @danvoight9393 Před 3 lety +1

    I enjoyed watching this too. Thank you.

  • @Swingguido
    @Swingguido Před 5 lety +1

    The presented Coral "Endless" record was issued in Germany by Deutsche Grammophon Gesellschaft in 1956, transfered and cut from the original US mastertape with the german pre RIAA-curve "CCIR"/"Teldec", with a significant difference in the rolloff (3180 Hz !).

  • @michaeldavison9761
    @michaeldavison9761 Před 2 lety +1

    I have quite a few 78's and a Dual 1229 3-speed turntable, M75 cartridge with N75-3 stylus for 78's and DM103ME which I believe is Dual's number for the Shure M91ED cartridge for the rest. My most prized 78 is Anton Karas playing 'The Harry Lime Theme' and 'Cafe Mozart Waltz' from the film 'The Third Man'.

  • @SteveMerritt
    @SteveMerritt Před 6 měsíci +1

    This is great information, thanks!!!!

  • @vanninany
    @vanninany Před 4 lety

    Amazing Video Thank Youuu!!

  • @cristianquiros7704
    @cristianquiros7704 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanx a lot pal, great lesson of 78s now I know enough thanx again!!!!!!keep spinning

  • @etherealvintage6665
    @etherealvintage6665 Před rokem +1

    OH MY GOODNESS. I waited half an hour through your very informative and enjoyable video to finally hear the record>>>> WOW. MAGNIFICENT. I AM IN LOVE WITH THAT GORGEOUS RICH SOUND!! Thank you for sharing and making these great videos!. I just came upon some 78's. My entire vinyl collection was destroyed a few years ago and I am slowly rebuilding. What a beautiful sound!.

  • @avehein
    @avehein Před 5 lety +2

    That Lead Belly would be awesome to own! Congrats on getting that.

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 5 lety

      Thanks! I wish it was in better condition though...

  • @jeandejazz6426
    @jeandejazz6426 Před 4 lety +2

    Today's 78 should be far superior to any 33 1/2rpm because of the speed and the frequencies available at that speed. But let's not spit on the sound quality of the old ones. The sound capture of those days made from a single microphone was pretty impressive. The sound engineer's of the day knew what they were doing.
    And amazing work has been done by remastering engineers of today of restoring these recordings to pristine sound. A fine example of this is the complete reissue on cd by RCA of all known recordings of the Benny Goodman trio and quartet of 1936-37. Fabulous! The restoration was so good I almost couldn't believe I was listening to a recording from that era. Check it out. If you like classic jazz of this type, you will be astounded!

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 4 lety

      Thanks for sharing that...I am checking immediately!

    • @robfriedrich2822
      @robfriedrich2822 Před 2 lety

      They didn't use a single microphone only. Polydor had the Polyfar process what means the use of multiple microphones and micros in far distance to catch the room reverbation. Also the soloist has an own microphone.

  • @Stelios.Posantzis
    @Stelios.Posantzis Před 2 lety +1

    Very informative and quite thorough. I was not aware of the existence of the Stanton styli set for 78rpm records nor the Rek-o-Kut's equalization preamplifier. Both are very useful budget tools.

  • @portwill
    @portwill Před 5 lety +2

    Very interesting (a bit long) video, thank you. I was blown away by the "album" history, never heard about it. Although I won't be buying 78s, it was interesting to see and hear the old ones.

  • @andrus97
    @andrus97 Před 5 lety +1

    I think I played The McGuire Sisters' Endless about 20 times from your video - gave me goosebumps. It's the best sounding version on CZcams :D Anyways, I'll be trying to add it to my collection. So far I only have USSR 78 rpm's.

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 5 lety

      Thank you for your nice comment Andrus!

  • @jeb419
    @jeb419 Před 4 lety +1

    Wow, they sound great on your turntable with the proper stylus. I actually love listening to 78's on the old wind up fully analog machines, and I'm an obsessive audiophile. There is something amazing about hearing them how were listened to back then, and also it is surprising how they can actually sound with a good reproducer. Some of them sound very cool. You can even use natural materials for the needles so you won't damage the grooves of the records if that is a worry.

    • @oldirtyjosh
      @oldirtyjosh Před 4 lety

      jeb419 what kind of stylus do you use for 78s?

  • @DavidWood-rc6gj
    @DavidWood-rc6gj Před 4 lety +6

    Some years ago I posted a video demonstrating the effect of using different styli on a 1940s 78rpm.
    In the first half of Part 1, I played the entire side using a stylus intended for stereo LP records. You can hear the stylus bouncing around, as it is way too small for wide groove. In the second half of Part 1, I played the same side but with the correct 3mil 78rpm stylus.
    In Part 2, I played it with an even larger 3.5mil stylus, and then again using a 4mil
    czcams.com/video/fLVyePWXmYk/video.html

  • @mmarrington
    @mmarrington Před 3 lety +1

    Very interesting and informative video

  • @jhonwask
    @jhonwask Před 4 lety +1

    That was interesting. Thank you very much.

  • @1mctous
    @1mctous Před 4 lety +1

    Quick trick to play vertical-cut records: you'll need a stereo cartridge with the larger 3-mil stylus. Reverse the leads on either the left or right channel then use a mono switch if you have one.

  • @edwincancelii2917
    @edwincancelii2917 Před 3 lety +1

    Despite the little kid crying in the background, this is one of my favorite videos.

  • @hokusman100
    @hokusman100 Před 3 lety +2

    *Italian mobster voice*
    “Say ‘typology’ one more time, I dare you!”

  • @toneyisaiah3556
    @toneyisaiah3556 Před 2 lety +1

    Sir, Thanks for showing off the
    Polydor 78 rpm record.

  • @Ron-jd4th
    @Ron-jd4th Před 4 lety +1

    Really like your video! I can really appreciate anyone like yourself, who would be passionate enough about this subject, to make a video, on the proper set-up to use, to get the best listening experience out of one's 78rpm collection! Kudos on that!!
    Btw; the artists name is pronounced "Led" Belly, with a "short E" sound, just like the metal of the same name and spelling.
    Ron

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 4 lety

      Thanks Ron! Yes, I do a lot of mispronouncing because I am mainly Italian....thanks for pointing that out.

    • @Ron-jd4th
      @Ron-jd4th Před 4 lety +1

      @@anadialog
      Let me apologize to you, as I must admit, that for some reason; I did not notice your accent, until just after I'd posted my reply!
      So your mispronunciation(s), are completely understandable, and acceptable!!
      Please, keep up your fine work with these types of videos!! I enjoy them very much!!

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 4 lety

      @@Ron-jd4th thanks man!

  • @ajaykanbur63
    @ajaykanbur63 Před 2 lety

    Very informative video. Well done. Keep up the tempo.

  • @IVORIESMAN
    @IVORIESMAN Před 4 lety

    By way of clarification - it's quite in order to use the cartridge supplied with modern day equipment as long as you fit a stylus specifically designed to play 78rpm. In addition you may wire the cartridge for mono - who wants stereo surface noise...

  • @Stelios.Posantzis
    @Stelios.Posantzis Před 2 lety

    I think there are a few things that were not sufficiently addressed but which you did touch upon and some that were not mentioned that would make a second episode very worthwhile.
    One thing that was not mentioned which to me is very important is the whole issue of handling, storing, buying and posting. Shellac records, unlike vinyl, were not designed to be posted, at least not nowadays when people have no idea how to package them and most mail handlers don't giving a dime about properly handling a package. If the sender packages a few shellac records as if they were vinyl records, they will certainly arrive in multiple fragments . There are videos/websites on how these should be packaged for postage but some of them are at best offering very optimistic advice. Similar caveats apply when buying crates of these a yard sale and then proceed to stick them in your car's boot without a proper container/care: you'll end up breaking some or most of them.
    The other things that were touched upon were the importance of having the correct styli and cartridges and it was correctly pointed out that not all are equal or suitable for all 78rpm records. The wrong stylus can damage the sensitive shellac, particularly if a modern stylus made for playing microgroove or even long play records is used. These have a much smaller diamond tip which bury itself down at the bottom of the groove and cause a lot of damage. Vice versa, if a stylus made for shellacs is used on a modern vinyl 78rpm, it will likely ruin it too.
    There maybe old vinyl 78rpm records out there that are not cut as microgroove so one must know what it is. Finally, the steel needles used on gramophones, just as sapphire tip cartridges were designed to wear out as they are played on shellac because shellac wears out with playing. On the other hand, diamond tipped styli which won't wear out anywhere near as fast but you can bet it'll be the shellac record that will be worn out sooner, particularly if the stylus manufacturer's usage guidelines are not adhered to. If in doubt, just play your shellac on a old gramophone rather than a modern deck - you might be positively surprised!

  • @barbaraeffros4804
    @barbaraeffros4804 Před 2 lety +1

    Very cool. 🎶🎺🎶

  • @chuckaluck123
    @chuckaluck123 Před rokem

    I like your mentions of "Typolgy" English is a fuzzy language and you do well with your using of it.

  • @antoniboleslawowicz8095
    @antoniboleslawowicz8095 Před 4 lety +4

    I heard some squealing in the background. What typologies of progeny does you have?

  • @VivaTunita
    @VivaTunita Před 4 lety +1

    the tango record sounds Amazing

  • @Timothycan
    @Timothycan Před 3 lety

    A good compromise for someone on a lower budget is to get an ordinary cartridge but with a 78 stylus (I got an Audio Technica AT91 cartridge, which was supplied with a 78 stylus). Then either wire it for mono or simply press the mono button on your amp (if it has one). I track it at the recommended 2 grams for that cartridge. As for equalisation, as I'm not aiming for an exact reproduction, but simply one that 'Sounds OK', I simply use a graphic equaliser to balance the sound to what sounds best for me. It won't be perfect, but you can get a reasonable sound for minimal cost.

  • @einsteinwallah2
    @einsteinwallah2 Před 5 lety +1

    we had a player which needed a spring wound up by inserting a lever on side ... the wound up spring released its energy by a mechanism which controlled speed to 78 rpm ... we had a small collection of bollywood songs and last record we had bought was a film *upkar* (1967) song *mere desh ki dharti* ... our prime minister lal bahadur shashtri had just concluded a war with pakistan and upkar was a patriotic film ... a neighbour lent us a few 78s ... one of which was bobby darin's *come september* ... soon after i saw a record of a *ganga jamuna* (1961) song *do hanso ka joda* being played on a 45 rpm record which i am sure must be a reissue of same song which was issued in 1961 as a 78 rpm record ... many bollywood songs needed to use both sides to complete ... for example we had a song from *mughal e azam* (1960) *zindabad zindabad ei muhabbat zindabad* which needed both sides ... most bollywood songs were published as pairs taking one side each ... for example we had a record of two songs *ae jane jigar aese main agar* and *loji bujh gayi bijli pyar ki* from *mehlon ke khwab* (1960)

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 5 lety

      Interesting! Thanks for sharing!

  • @patdthomas
    @patdthomas Před 4 lety +6

    Get your greasy fingers off the grooves!

  • @jessechristensen6028
    @jessechristensen6028 Před 6 lety +3

    There was a record store day real se of one of the songs by the beach boys that plays at 78 rpm and a vinyl reissue of an Elvis record that plays at 78 as well.

    • @JacobafJelling
      @JacobafJelling Před 6 lety

      Jesse Christensen do you have Scandinavian heritage

    • @jessechristensen6028
      @jessechristensen6028 Před 5 lety

      Yes I do from both sides, but I'm American.

    • @JacobafJelling
      @JacobafJelling Před 5 lety

      Jesse Christensen i get that. Jesse isn’t a very Nordic name, b

    • @jessechristensen6028
      @jessechristensen6028 Před 5 lety

      Like I said I'm American. Most of us are you could say are musts and most have more English type names.

    • @JacobafJelling
      @JacobafJelling Před 5 lety

      Jesse Christensen my Name is Jacob and Im full blood Scandinavian. But even an American could be named Jacob Christensen and still Sound American

  • @BruceTheSillyGoose
    @BruceTheSillyGoose Před rokem +1

    The Smithsonian Institution's IRENE system [Image Reconstruct Eliminate Noise Enhance] or the ELP Laser Turntable can really extract 100% of the music on these discs with MUCH greater fidelity and less noise/distortion*, than with conventional stylus playback, *provided that the records are CLEAN.

  • @MsCookiemonster1995
    @MsCookiemonster1995 Před 5 lety +2

    this video quality is nice

  • @robfriedrich2822
    @robfriedrich2822 Před 4 lety

    I heard, that shellacc records from the late 1940's till the end will play the best with the 1950's stylus (65 µm), records before this with 90 µm, acoustic records with 120 µm and Edison Diamond Discs with no paper label plays good with the micro groove standard 25 µm, later paper label with 65 µm.
    When a record is worn or possibly glued, it plays the best on an early electric record player with exchangeable steel needles.

  • @bmj4052
    @bmj4052 Před 5 lety +1

    On the audio technica lp120, can I just change the stylus for rare 78 rpm record playing or do I have to change the cartridge also?
    BTW - great videos

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 5 lety +1

      You can, but it's better if you get a dedicated cartridge which will be also mono, in contrast with the default cart you have on the lp120...

    • @bmj4052
      @bmj4052 Před 5 lety +1

      @@anadialog I guess I will try it first to hear how it sounds. Thanks for the quick reply

    • @charlesrobert4151
      @charlesrobert4151 Před 2 lety

      @@anadialog First off -thank you for such an informative video! I recently dug out a box of my Mom's old 78 rpms - WWII era - and realized my old (90s) turntables didn't do 78rpm. Thinking abt making CDs in the future so I settled on the AT-LP 120XUSB... and was especially interested in your info re specific styli and the quality of mono. Anyway - I had the same question as BMJ (above) - so Thank You!
      But... the audio-technica site describes their AT-VM95SP cartridge...
      "This VM95 Series cartridge with 3.0 mil conical stylus fits half-inch mount turntables. While this cartridge is designed to play 78 RPM mono records, it is, nevertheless, a stereo cartridge, allowing users to choose between the left and right channels, which can be especially helpful in archiving applications to minimize noise and distortion"
      Sooo - does that mean it won't produce the same "true" mono sound from a mono record? Are there better, not terribly expensive, cartridges that would be compatible?
      TIA!

  • @kalptarulunia2003
    @kalptarulunia2003 Před 4 lety

    I have a few Electrically Recorded Broadcast Long Playing 10 inch Shellac record.. Would love to get some information on this format!

  • @robfriedrich2822
    @robfriedrich2822 Před 2 lety

    32:53 There's a video about a jukebox, what plays 45 and 78 with the same stylus. It recognize the speed by the center hole.

  • @BruceTheSillyGoose
    @BruceTheSillyGoose Před rokem +1

    there are times when you will want a STEREO cartridge and playback, for example if you have one groove more worn than the other. with a mono cartridge you can't choose a groove, you have to take them both. there are also times when you want a larger-than-spec stylus so it will ride higher above most of the record wear. and for some records a conical stylus works a bit better than an elliptical.

    • @robfriedrich2822
      @robfriedrich2822 Před 5 měsíci

      It could be a good idea, to decrackle both channels separately and mix them. Also to test the records with different kinds of styli, some may sound better.

    • @robfriedrich2822
      @robfriedrich2822 Před 5 měsíci

      Elliptical stylus isn't always the best, possibly the spherical stylus may ignore some clicks, the elliptical will pickup.

  • @JadsMusic
    @JadsMusic Před 4 lety +2

    So i could play a 78 on a turntable with the 33/45/78 speeds, only changing the stylus?

  • @Jonnyyuma
    @Jonnyyuma Před 5 lety +2

    where does one purchase the stylus kit, (links) that's pretty cool.

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 5 lety

      Hi, from Esoteric Sound...link is in the video description!

  • @MadBiker-vj5qj
    @MadBiker-vj5qj Před 5 lety

    Great video, I found you when YT recommended the Pink Floys digital vs analogue comparison, now I have subscribed
    To add to the knowledge base: a lot of records that get called '78s' are to be played at 80 rpm- Columbia used that speed forquite a while ISTR it was a patents issue.

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 5 lety +1

      True! In fact the best is to have a multiple speed TT like the Rek-o-kut...mine is broken at the moment so I did not insert it in the video...

  • @pammcintyre5344
    @pammcintyre5344 Před 3 lety

    Vintage Music Company, Mpls. 38th st and Cedar. Players, repairs and thousands of 78s. A treasure house and encyclopedic owner.

  • @rogerturner1881
    @rogerturner1881 Před 3 lety +1

    MGM started 78rpm in 1946 until 1959 in US CANADA and UK. INDIA 78rpm was until 1964

  • @heathercallaghan8205
    @heathercallaghan8205 Před rokem

    I have a 1928 HMV electric Victrola. I recently found a 10 inch 78 audiodisc blank recording of my grandparents' wedding, but the surface is too soft to be played on my Victrola..the needle causes immediate damage. Does anyone know how to listen to it?

    • @robfriedrich2822
      @robfriedrich2822 Před 5 měsíci

      Modern record player with lightweight pickup. Treat it like a modern record, but with wider groove.

  • @robfriedrich2822
    @robfriedrich2822 Před 4 lety +2

    When you play a pre 1950's record with a later player, the equalization is wrong. The time before, when they cut the record, they used a low cut filter below 200 Hz and didn't boost the treble. In the 1950's, the low cut filters below 500 Hz and high frequencies will be boosted.
    So the 1950's or later player boosts low mids too much and eliminate high frequencies.

  • @ejdiii333
    @ejdiii333 Před 4 lety +1

    Cool, he sounds like father Guido Sarducche on Saturday nite live in the 1970s.

  • @felipeuchida3378
    @felipeuchida3378 Před rokem +1

    I was searching for 78 stuff and then a Kitty, Daisy and Lewis record appears on the thumbnail, so I had to click

  • @guillaumelabesse8161
    @guillaumelabesse8161 Před 5 lety +1

    - Does 78rpm vinyls in microgroove (same as normal 33rpm/45rpm) exist ?
    - If so, do we still need a spécial cartridge/special head ?
    - which one is better : heavy shellac or vinyls (78rpm) ?

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 5 lety

      Hi Guillame, only special editions are peoduced now. I did play a recent release in the video! If it is microgroove you can use the normal cart otherwise you need a dedicated one. Shellac is much heavier and rigid, it does not deform (in fact they directly crack if stressed). Hence, I think they are better...

    • @guillaumelabesse8161
      @guillaumelabesse8161 Před 5 lety

      Thanks !
      Is it written on the disk if it's microgroove or not ? How do I know if I need a special cartridge or not ?

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 5 lety

      You need to look at tge grooves with a strong lateral light...if you compare a 33 with a 78rpm its easy to see the difference

    • @ifixmycarmyself2502
      @ifixmycarmyself2502 Před 4 lety

      Introduction of microgrove started already 1948.

    • @robfriedrich2822
      @robfriedrich2822 Před 2 lety

      @@ifixmycarmyself2502 Edison tried a groove half the size, but long play records were not accepted at this time.
      May we not forget, the 45 rpm disc was introduced as a kind of improved and more compact version of the 78 rpm records, so RCA thought, this would become popular.

  • @Wilverine99
    @Wilverine99 Před 5 lety

    What’s the second record? That was my favorite!

  • @anibalgalleguillos2327
    @anibalgalleguillos2327 Před 4 lety +1

    Can you show us your full set in order to head 78 rpm record? (Turntable, needle, pre amp, amp, speakers, any software interface, computer, connections, etc) Thank you

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 4 lety +1

      Most of my gear is here: czcams.com/video/6DgkIdWFT1U/video.html

    • @anibalgalleguillos2327
      @anibalgalleguillos2327 Před 4 lety

      Can you share you prefer set of the anti-skate, counter weight, tracking force, and height adjust when you play the shellac records?

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 4 lety

      @@anibalgalleguillos2327 it all depends from your cartridge and tonearm, there isn't a universal formula!

  • @carlosmauricionunezroa9488

    How much do the styli last for? Is it true that they get ruined after a couple plays?

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 4 lety

      No, those are the old ones...now they last a good number of hours (400-500 or even more). At that speed and tracking forse not as much as 33rpm.

  • @brightonmusic
    @brightonmusic Před 4 lety

    I have some 78 shellac records. When I play them they all have to varying degrees loud noise that sounds like bacon frying. What causes that? Anything I can do to deal with it?

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 4 lety

      You will always have a lot of surface noise with old records because theyvare very scratched. If you find 78s 8n good condition I am sure they will sound much better. Obviously you must play them with the correct stylus otherwise that adds a huge amount of noise.

    • @brightonmusic
      @brightonmusic Před 4 lety

      @@anadialog Thank you. These are records from 1902-1909 but not visibly scratched. The only styli I have are 2.7 mil and 3.0 mil. There are no others available for the cartridge (Shure M91-ED), which I have to use because of compliance requirements due to a low mass 1970s tonearm.
      I'll clean the records to see if that helps. Can you recommend a good cleaning fluid for shellac records?

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 4 lety

      Strange...one of, if not THE best for me, also for shellac since there is ZERO alcohol, is l'Art du Son LP. Is even easy to handle and store because its a small bottle of concentrated fluid. Just add distilled water!

    • @brightonmusic
      @brightonmusic Před 4 lety +1

      @@anadialog Thank you!! Will give it a try.

  • @evbobdemon6994
    @evbobdemon6994 Před 5 lety +1

    I have a decca 66, works fantastic but would like new recordings to play on the gramophone.

  • @ThePhonographStop
    @ThePhonographStop Před 4 lety +1

    My channel is nearing 2000 uploads. Loads of 78s and phonographs! Good video!!

  • @neilmansfield8329
    @neilmansfield8329 Před 2 lety

    This is a great record
    Is it out on CD or spotify

  • @paulstubbs7678
    @paulstubbs7678 Před rokem +1

    So early records were made from 'bug shit', that's just crazy

  • @stevendegiorgio3143
    @stevendegiorgio3143 Před 4 lety +7

    I like your technical experience and recommendations.And your equipment is nice,grade A.I think you have to be careful not to drop those 78s.I heard that they shatter.

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks! Yes, they are dangerous...

    • @michaelchadwick2254
      @michaelchadwick2254 Před 3 lety +1

      They only shatter if made from shellac. The vinyl ones don't typically shatter though the age causes some brittleness.

  • @EddieJazzFan
    @EddieJazzFan Před 5 lety

    They had a Blind Lemon Jefferson 78 record come out last week on Record Store Day (11-18-18)

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 5 lety

      Cool! Yes, they do those special pressings every once in a while...

    • @EddieJazzFan
      @EddieJazzFan Před 5 lety

      @@anadialog Question: Do you use a 78 stylus or a regular LP stylus for these "modern" 78 records pressed in the last couple of years?

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 5 lety

      If its a microgroove (classic lp) you need a normal stylus. Otyerwise you are going to need a larger stylus...if nothing is mentioned, usually these new vinyl releases are microgroove. One 2ay to establish that is the amount of music on each side. Shellac has about 2,3 minutes. Microgroove at least double...

    • @EddieJazzFan
      @EddieJazzFan Před 5 lety +1

      @@anadialog Thanks for the info!

  • @ZeusTheTornado
    @ZeusTheTornado Před 4 lety

    What's the correct VTA and tracking force for shellac records?

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 4 lety

      VTA depends on the cartridge and tonearm construction, not the type of record. The tracking force on shellac is obviously much higher than vinyl, but again it depends from which cartridge you are using.

    • @ZeusTheTornado
      @ZeusTheTornado Před 4 lety +1

      @@anadialog Okay, thanks!

  • @pip5528
    @pip5528 Před rokem

    I'm a little curious as to why he advocates elliptical styli (of which there are so few for 78s) but then also says he's gotten the best results with an AT-MONO3SP which has a conical stylus. Then again, cartridges and styli are fairly subjective with the exception of LY styli not reading old 78s properly due to sinking to the bottom of the groove.

  • @guillaumelabesse8161
    @guillaumelabesse8161 Před 5 lety

    - Which one has the highest dynamics : 45 RPM or 78 RPM ?
    - And for the quality of the record,
    Can we find 78 RPM as good as, or better than good 45 RPM vinyls ?

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 5 lety +1

      The higher the speed the better the dynamics...although high speed may lead to tracking issues...what do you mean the quality of the record? Sound or material? In any case the answer is yes, of course!

    • @ifixmycarmyself2502
      @ifixmycarmyself2502 Před 4 lety

      Highest recorded dynamic range on 78 is a little less than 120 db.... Better than SACD!

  • @bodensick
    @bodensick Před 3 lety +1

    Nicely done...appreciate the video. As for the 2 year old snarky comment by Abcde...grow up!

  • @bodensick
    @bodensick Před 3 lety

    Internet Archive is in the process of digitizing thousands of 78 records.

  • @RefinedRetroReviews
    @RefinedRetroReviews Před 6 lety +5

    Also the first record is the cleanest sounding 78 RPM record I have ever heard.

    • @hyzercreek
      @hyzercreek Před 5 lety +2

      That Coral record he put on was vinyl not shellac. 1950's vinyl 78's in mint condition sound fantastic.

    • @KPAXMusicOfThess
      @KPAXMusicOfThess Před 5 lety

      @@hyzercreek Was this Coral record made of Vinylite (so called unbreakable records)? You can tell the second record is shellac based on how it sounds when he is handling it just before placing it on the turntable. Shellac records have a very distinct sound to them.

  • @Rebel9668
    @Rebel9668 Před 5 lety

    So, do you plan on doing something like this for earlier recordings like all the old Edison cylinders?

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 5 lety +1

      I think I am stopping at shellac! ;-)

  • @robfriedrich2822
    @robfriedrich2822 Před 4 lety

    I thought, they used for cutting the master wax (therefore dead wax) and for the record itself before shellac hard rubber.

  • @BruceTheSillyGoose
    @BruceTheSillyGoose Před rokem

    for real-time declicking, nothing beats the CEDAR DeClickle process.

  • @neilmansfield8329
    @neilmansfield8329 Před 2 lety

    I like the the first one
    Endless

  • @jackpollock8969
    @jackpollock8969 Před 5 lety +1

    This is very interesting because I recently came across a full 12", red vinyl box set, but they payed at 78 rpm! I'm wondering if I should use a heavier tracking force (because of the high speeds) or if I should use a lighter tracking force (because it's vinyl and not shellac)

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 5 lety

      Cool! What box set is it? You need a special mono cartridge that gas a larger stylus...for the tracking force just follow the indications of the manufacturer!

    • @jackpollock8969
      @jackpollock8969 Před 5 lety

      @@anadialog it's called Appassionata by Beethoven, probably from some time around World War 2. I played it with a 3 mil stylus and it sounds brand new!

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 5 lety

      Thanks!

  • @The_forgotten_two810
    @The_forgotten_two810 Před rokem +1

    How to find how old is your 78 rpm shellac vinyl

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před rokem

      There are manuals out there but tye best thing is probably discogs. I recently reviewed a cool app that may help you: czcams.com/video/y6aLJum40T0/video.html
      P.S. Remember shellac isn't vinyl.

    • @robfriedrich2822
      @robfriedrich2822 Před 5 měsíci

      After WW2, they stretched shellac plastic by some mineral oil based plastic. So we had some shellac vinyls, breakable and easily worn played on record player with steel needles.

  • @RedVynil
    @RedVynil Před 2 lety

    Why can't I hear more than the first few bars of the actual song on that last record? Sounds like ska and I would've liked to hear a but more!

  • @ZX-zw3ge
    @ZX-zw3ge Před 3 lety

    28:45 Doing the tango with my dog. Lol

  • @stevenhoelderich9490
    @stevenhoelderich9490 Před 3 lety

    Hello can , you play a 78 RPM Record, Pavarotti ?

  • @DCDi34
    @DCDi34 Před 3 lety

    A little set of styluses that cost over $600. And a $2500 preamp for special equalisation.

  • @hmrowland6114
    @hmrowland6114 Před 3 lety

    Ortofon M Mono cart is a dream.

  • @edwincancelii2917
    @edwincancelii2917 Před 3 lety

    This is the world’s biggest request; those 12 inch 78 r.p.m. microgroove stereo vinyl single records should have hundreds of thousands of recordings from the late’50’s to today, even from all record labels, including the stereo version of Come To Me by Johnny Mathis from 1958.

  • @makimakipapura7543
    @makimakipapura7543 Před 3 měsíci

    How do you avoid distortion altogether?

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 3 měsíci

      Do you mean noise? You can use a low pass filter, that will cut a lot of the noise but also a little of the music…real distortion is negligible and part of the experience

    • @makimakipapura7543
      @makimakipapura7543 Před 3 měsíci

      @@anadialog Is it possible to get a 78rpm record to sound as pure as a CD?

  • @KPAXMusicOfThess
    @KPAXMusicOfThess Před 5 lety +1

    The Lead Belly record was probably made in the early to mid 1940's and the light weight tonearm with a sapphire needle didn't come out until 1948. The old heavy needles (known as diggers) that would have been used to play it was all they had back then. This of course would result in a lot of groove damage resulting in sound distortion after multiple plays. Old 78's were expected to wear out after so many plays and at some point you would have to replace the record. This is why you should never play a decent condition 78 record on an old vintage record player, especially those made before WW2.

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 5 lety

      Thanks for sharing your experience!

    • @jeb419
      @jeb419 Před 4 lety

      You can use bamboo or cactus needles on the old wind up record players that shouldn’t damage the grooves. But they’ll never sound as good as as a proper turntable but I like the sound none the less just for fun.

    • @robfriedrich2822
      @robfriedrich2822 Před 2 lety

      Light weight tonearm with sapphire came 1937, but the majority was with steel needle.

    • @robfriedrich2822
      @robfriedrich2822 Před 2 lety

      One interesting thing, one can repair broken records, but you have to play it with steel needle to get the music

  • @hmrowland6114
    @hmrowland6114 Před 3 lety

    Don't play dirty records and FGS brush you stylus between albums. How do you set your azimuth so easily with a cart change? It takes me hours to get it right.

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 3 lety

      czcams.com/video/v-YyKktxadg/video.html

  • @RefinedRetroReviews
    @RefinedRetroReviews Před 6 lety

    This is a great video. It is good to see channels about retro audio. This is very important history to keep alive. I subscribed to your channel and I will be looking forward to future videos.

  • @edwincancelii2917
    @edwincancelii2917 Před 3 lety

    I guess that the maximum time limit for those 12 inch 78 r.p.m. microgroove stereo single vinyl records, is at most 10 minutes.

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 3 lety +1

      It depends from the period and the related technology. It goes more or less between 2 to 9 minutes per side.

    • @edwincancelii2917
      @edwincancelii2917 Před 3 lety

      ANA[DIA]LOG, interesting. Just like the 7 inch 45 r.p.m. single records.

  • @joshualieder7524
    @joshualieder7524 Před 3 lety

    What is the cheapest easiest way to listen to 78 rpm records??

  • @johnhanserud6952
    @johnhanserud6952 Před 4 lety

    I use a 10khz rolloff, with a low end turnover!

  • @andrewm1445
    @andrewm1445 Před 5 lety

    These are shellac 78s that you’re playing?

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 5 lety

      Sone are made of vinyl some are made of shellac....

  • @kacperuminski1547
    @kacperuminski1547 Před 6 lety +18

    You are using the word typology waaaay too much.

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 6 lety +3

      Yes, I know, this was pointed out in many videos. In the end I am Italian so I do make several mistakes. Sorry about that. I hope you enjoyed the video regardless this issue.

    • @kacperuminski1547
      @kacperuminski1547 Před 6 lety

      ana[dia]log I did, thanks.

  • @edwincancelii2917
    @edwincancelii2917 Před 3 lety

    They should make brand new stereo microgroove 12 inch 78 r.p.m. vinyl single records.

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Před 3 lety +1

      That would be great! In any case I did present in the video a few recent productions.