Why African Americans Are Leaving UGANDA| Ep. 187
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- Today we interviewed Shoshanna...an African American woman from Los Angeles who has moved to Uganda and married a man from Mbale. Recently we discussed how hard it is for many African Americans to adjust in this country.
They misunderstood what the sister was saying...she said her friend moved to Nigeria from Ugandan not because the Nigerians are better people compared to Ugandan people... but she felt protected in Nigeria because it's an African American community keeping her from being taken advantaged of... It makes perfect sense to me and very smart of her to do.
So there is no African American community in Uganda?
their DNA is in west africa anyway not east. shes home.
who cares about DNA home is East or South also
nope. no slavery was done in east and south went upto mozambique to latin america. AA are ghanians, nigerians, senegalese and others. their migration to east would be no different from a chinese or a european. no special tags. @@professorxnew-man3410
@@dikembeafrika8918not many compared to Nigeria
Joanne is right. People shouldn't be demeaned because they speak with an accent. The reason they speak with the accent it's not their first language. Just like the American lady spoke with an accent while trying to speak in luganda. I mean, why is it bad if it's Africans with an accent, Italians, Filipinos, Chinese, Indians etc have even more thick accents.
@Gideoncapitalfx
@Gideoncapitalfx. I am Jamaican living in the U.S, and I have an accent. What I say to America when they make fun of my accent is that, if you go to Jamaica you will also have an accent. Personally, uneducated people are the ones who make fun of other people's accent. Bottomline.
I agree with you.
I enjoy hearing different accents.
This has nothing to do with accents. Most Ugandans don't know English or barely speak English. And this condition will be there for a long time because Ugandans are in denial.
That woman is a bit ignorant. Basic phonics will indicate to her that SHE is the one pronouncing water wrong. Her accent has her confusing the T sound as many Americans do. pronouncing the word as it was meant to be pronounced and is pronounced in Britain is not Incorrect. Glad Joan called her out on it.
It's crazy to me that I've seen some people make excuses for scamming, then will complain why someone dont come to Uganda
U is just a hater
@@NIGHTLIFE_AF
Amd they say a hater instead of addressing the fact they're taking up for thieves.
That is what happens when you don't believe in moral absolutes. Instead of acknowledging that thievery is always wrong, they'd rather say thievery is wrong when someone steals from me but will never say it aloud. Make no mistake, "they" included anyone who doesn't believe in God.
So there are no scammers in the US?
OMG this guest sounds just like me, especially with the mindset shift prior to meeting my Ugandan husband. I believe we are older than they are in age because we both have adult children. My final destination is Uganda as well because I too am a very traditional type of person. The words that she spoke resonated so very much with a lot of my experience. Thank you for inviting such a beautiful guest and thank you for sharing beautiful❤
Thank You for sharing…I am coming soon,I am up to the challenge of Uganda 🇺🇬 ❤😊.
That's the attitude...needed.to survive in Ug
I am ugandan 100%what i like about Nigerian is that most of them have only Nigerians names
No matter what the format...no matter what the arrangement...she never loses her composure. Camera focus or not, she always maintains a high level of camera integrity. The genuine attentiveness she gives the distinguished guest, coupled with the journalistic camaraderie she shares with Gabs is amazing in itself and makes for a great re-introducrion to 2024. What is even more astonishing is that despite the abrupt laughter and sudden verbal outbursts from Duke, .she never looses train of thought or goes off topic....kudos to you young lady and the multiple talents you possess! "You are a sight for sore eyes!" Welcome back and that satin jump suit would accentuate your skin and hair even more if you had a mahogany door backdrop!
@Rachael/Production crew.... visual and 'prop' adjustments....?
Haha you’re too kind. Thank you
I enjoyed listening to Shoshana - an informed young woman. I wish her well!
Excellent program! Watched in its entirety.
Talking about English accent, nobody looks down on Japanese for not pronouncing English with American accent...infact Ugandans speak better English than Japanese or Koreans but nobody give asians SH/T about their accent or how well they speak English
@lorenzowere9433
@lorenzowere9433. Exactly. It's amazing how the black culture always want to appeased others. Instead of accepting and standing up for ourselves.
Right! I live in the Bay Area who has the largest Asian population outside of Asian. 1st through 2nd and sometimes 3rd generation Asians you cannot understand them when they speak English. But no one complains. I always look sideway at Blacks who complain about how Blacks speak whether they area from anywhere in the Diaspora or from the Motherland. God gave us ears to hear and and a mind to understand. Use them both and you will understand. Gee! This panel sounds like white Americans wanting everyone to sound like them.
@lorenzowere9433 I love the Ugandan English accents, something in them tickles me or maybe every speaker just reminds me of Kansiime Anne and M7, so I anticipate the joke before it is delivered.
@@lebo5281😂
u a lie I tell verizoj off weekly
transfer to me someone who speaks English & understand English!
There's a difference.
I'm calling for cell phone repair
and the call center worker repeatedly says yes you want to but a new phone 😂😂😔.
We tell them all the time don't lie!
Just visited Uganda, now in Kenya. Uganda was nice but couldn't live there permanently.
I have lived in Abuja, Nigeria though and really enjoyed it. I will return with Abuja as my base city and visit other countries from there and work from a variety, as I work remotely.
I visited Kenya. I couldn’t live there permanently.
We never hear white people complaining about Africa why? I
Be adventurous .
@@sheilaaciro6336because you haven’t heard those conversations yet or you’re not in those circles. Doesn’t mean they don’t!
@@sheilaaciro6336Why would white people complain when you guys treat them like gods?
You are free to roam the world. There are Nigerians, Kenyans and people from other parts of the world who have lived in Uganda for decades. Obviously, it doesn't suit you and that is fine.
Welcome back, good to see the crew!
We need to improve ourselves wherever we need improving. If a country's or community's systems are not conducive to getting basic things done efficiently, they need to imrpove. I'm a U.S. native, and even if I go grocery shopping to a local farm, a small-town market, a Mom-and-Pop neighborhood store or a big box store like Sam's club, I can expect to not take an hour to buy vegetables. If it's taking an hour for something sooo basic in Uganda, they need to improve that aspect of their business dealings.
Well said!
Those are opportunities for entrepreneurs who can identify how to make life better and make it a business..
We never change our culture of bargaining 😂 if you don't like go straight in supermarket or use online markets country wide
👋🏿👋🏿👏🏿 Glad to see the repat podcast back .
The reason why English in Africa sounds different is because their pronunciation of English words is influenced by the pronunciation of African language alphabets and their tonation.
English sounds different regrional everywhere it is spoken. . Perfect example, the different Southern US accents in America.
Exactly Mark..
Exactly!!
Isn’t this common knowledge? It’s crazy how ignorant americans are that they can’t grasp this concept
English sounds different everywhere. Australians, NZ have their own accents. Even in the USA different regions sound very different. It took me a minute to understand some accents. Yes, Africans speak many languages and oftentimes, English is their second and/or third language. When I lived in Germany, 'fights' often started because of regional accents and pronounciation. I was in a German language class in Frankfurt when a fight broke out between two Spanish women. One was from Mexico and the other was from Spain and claimed to speak proper Spanish.......................Even in England, everybody does not speak with the Queen's accent.
There is a large AA (FBA) community in Nigeria. I can see how it would be easier for an AA to assimilate in Nigeria. Not to mention sharing the same ancestry.
Master Gabs , glad to see and hear from you. Respect to to the podcast panel.
Much appreciated, brother 🤝🏾
Glad to be back!
She just likes how Nigeria 🇳🇬 gets down.... Every African Country has their flavor.... Uganda 🇺🇬 should be adaptable when your willing to learn our people culture and way of life... You must genuinely love ❤️ Black ⚫️ People.....then blend in and live.....
Diasporans really need to do their homework. The softest landing for most is South Africa, followed by Kenya, Rwanda and Ghana. Go to countries that have a formalized Diaspora policy or very large Diaspora community that is well networked.
Survival mode in Africa makes marriage a thing that saves lives, it has nothing to do with love or family in every case, but a means to an end, in a place where options are not abundant if you don't have financial stability. Africa isn't special, in the relationship aspect. Especially when money is involved and necessary to survive. Live and learn.
So true. Live and learn. Nothing is easy. If you came all the way to leave America you must make a mind shift! It is incumbent on the Expat to assimilate!! Gabs is right. Learn how the system works, then WORK IT❤❤❤❤
All AA women are not the same. I'm sure all Ugandan women are not the same and certainly all African women on the continent are not the same. ❤
Is she saying Jews as in Hebrew? Or Ashkenazi or Sephardic?
This lady is speaking the truth! Many American women would appreciate and love this.
Master Gabs, your brothers were probably looking in the wrong places and choosing looks over maturity and wisdom.
lol Joanita, I'm Ugandan American. I understood what Shoshana, Gabs, and Oshay meant when they were talking about speaking with both accents because I grew up in USA. Joanita you had that reaction to what they said about speaking with both accents because you haven't lived in USA or outside Africa. African kids that were raised in USA, Europe or outside Africa can switch from their real accent (accent for the foreign country they grew up in, born in, or lived most of their life) to the made up accent (accent from their parents' country). Outside of the latter, I noticed some Ugandans in Uganda pronounce the Ls in some words as Rs or vice versa. Then there's Uglish which is a mixture Luganda, other Ugandan languages, and English lol.
The African Americans (Black Americans) do this too. Infact comedian Dave Chapelle once said,“Every black American is bilingual. All of them. We speak street vernacular and we speak 'job interview.'”
If lets say Shoshana didn't plan on telling her son to speak with both accents, he would learn to do that on his own because Africans that grew up overseas know how to speak with both accents for the same reasons Shoshana, Gabs, and Oshay gave.
Btw, Oshay you can tell what type of English an African speaks by how they spell words in official documents. With that in mind, most Ugandans in Uganda don't have a British accent but they speak the British English and spell English the British way because Uganda was colonized by the British.
Almost all Americans are monolingual (however they "twist" the American English accent to fit many situations), which is a big limitation. On the contrary, Africans on the continent are mostly multilingual - we speak at least 3 languages fluently because our countries are very linguistically and culturally diverse.
I understand!!! I had to stand for my African people!!
@@joanitamaaya Am with you Joanita❤️😊
Joanita is like most Ugandans I met when I lived there. They thought there English was correct when it was often unintelligible. Ugandans often could not understand my English so they told me to change my accent and speak like a Ugandan. People in 9 other countries, including my native country USA, understand my English. Its only Ugandans that have a problem understanding English. So the Ugandans should learn to speak and understand English or they should stop professing that they are fluent in English.
@@tmanefl maybe you should travel more to countries where they understand you and leave Uganda alone, we are sorry we do not sound like the white man. We are taught British English from nursery to university, so some words may be different from American English. Obviously we have ACCENTS. We are Ugandans first before anything and we shall not conform to your ENGLISH SPEAKING STANDARDS.
I have no plans of moving to Africa, but I really enjoy your content..
Not yet 😅😅
@@travelerawakenings8477 Seriously, this old dog is tired..
Who is begging you to come , stay with your Masters there
@@tristan583 I have no masters… My life is pretty cool here in America.. Did I hurt your feelings # I will be fully retired @ 55
@tristan583 Many African American women and one black woman from the UK have been killed in Gambia. Not only in Gambia, but in other African countries also. Obviously, we are not that welcome in Africa. Nobody can force someone to move to Africa. Also, the earth doesn't only have Africa and America. If someone doesn't want to move to Africa, she can move elsewhere, she doesn't need to stay in the United States either. I left America, but I am not moving to Africa either. There are plenty of other countries I can live besides the United States and African countries.
Awesome podcast today, my Husband and I are Hebrew Jews here in America. There is a large community of us here, and not affiliated with those Camps that you find here in America. I missed you guys and the great continent you provides.
But I did continue to watch Oshay. I think Oshay is speaking of the younger generation of female. And the System that is spoke of in the US is the very same systems that keep most down. Why would you need a husband when the system is design to keep them down.
Great job over all
The land of HAM is not for you.
@@Holy1OfIsrael.what land is the land of ham
@@kingc6175 The original land of the HAMITES (Africans) not the children of Israel (Israel)
@@Holy1OfIsrael. explain ezekiel 36v24 and Jeremiah 29v14 go back to subsahara Africaaaaa
@@Holy1OfIsrael. explain joel 3v2 and ezekiel 36v5
People often confuse accents with intelligence. The fact that one speaks with an accent does not mean that one thinks with an accent. Additionally there is a level of white supremacy associated with how people judge different accents. No one assumes someone speaking with a thick German or French accent as less intelligent. (E.g. Aarnold Shearzneger, Dr. Ruth). However, Mexican and African accents are not considered intelligent.
@kwameboateng4572
@kwameboateng4572. Well said and so true. So, we ask ourselves who are the true ignoramus.
It is funny when Africans believe all the stereotypes about Nigeria. The infrastructure might not be top-notch but Nigeria has many developed cities that compete with many African capitals (about 30 cities). I think other African countries tend to project their insecurities and country's lapses on Nigeria. It's always at least we are better than Nigeria when this is mainly not true. How developed is Uganda apart from Kampala and maybe Entebbe? Nigeria is going through issues no doubt, but at least they don't shy from it and won't try to hide their problems, unlike many African countries.
In the mean time you are moving to the same african countries you are talking about
@@africaine4889 I don't know who you mean by "You" but Nigerians moving to other countries is the very nature of Nigerians to seek more opportunities not because your country is necessarily better off. They have been moving and exploring since the 70s.
@@potentiacognitionis that'd not only Nigerians se all.knoe that. Ehat am.saying is that u guys leave your country because there is nothing going on for a lot of you there. I have lots of nigerian friends and they say things like it is. Just like other Africans who travel in other countries its for opportunities
They are very ignorant and they want African unity. Imagine that girl laughing
@@africaine4889 this is a very big lie. Unemployment rate in nigeria is 4.0% which African country can boast of this. There is job for everyone but might not pay well for some people so they look for better opportunities outside nigeria. Nigeria has the highest start ups in Africa. Nigerians travel mostly for business , school , better opportunities and better living environment that has a working system plus security. The narrative of nigerians traveling because there's nothing to do here is false.
By the way Mr Agaba Tumusiime, the combination of both your names is quite deep. They translate to “He gives, let’s thank him”. That’s a name to be very proud of indeed!!☺️
Great topic. I'm glad the show is getting back to in-person interviews. It is more interactive and interesting❤
I have a Nigerian husband and people are always asking me why an African. He is very family oriented too
Same here!
Oshae is completely ignoring where the fathers are. Why are these women growing up in fatherless homes?
Very interesting show! Really informative! THANKS
I'm engaged to a Kenyan woman, and I pray she never loses her accent.
I don't believe for a second that women in Uganda are jealous of her being married to a Ugandan man. How does she know they don't like her because of something she's doing? She seems stuck up and stuck on material things. Notice how she talked about building a house, a gated community, and a nanny. Some chicks live in their own world. But Oshay and the gang lead her down this path, and instead of her telling the truth that she doesn't see any problems, she starts talking about how her husband is a desirable man and the women are jealous. Stop the cap.
U Sound Like 1 of The Haters She Was Talking About😅😂🤣
@@JauMillennia3400its true. African women dont think like that. I dont think anyone in the village is even remotely thinking she took any man from them. They r living in their own world
@@aeiou0123 Stop The Cap.ANY Women From ANY Society Can Be Jealous.U Trying To Make It Seem As If African Women Are Above Normal Human Emotions Such As Jealous🤔They Not
@@JauMillennia3400 u hv to visit to understand
Nigeria don’t advertise itself like other African countries. You know why, because they don’t care, it’s your business. And you can’t hear those stories. The guy trying to be funny about Nigeria probably has never been to Nigeria only armed with the negative made up narratives of the social media. The ones that went to Nigeria talks about a vibe that is not duplicated anywhere in the continent.
Everywhere in Nigeria is not the same. It is better to go with connections. That makes a difference.
They will kidnap you don’t play game you’re not from there people are being kidnapped from their home
@sheilaaciro6336 stop your propaganda. Yes kidnappings happen but depends where u are in nigeria. In the southwest is the safest. Lagos is still safe n that doesn't happen in lagos. I have been to nigeria 3x since last yr and I grew up in america. Never had an issue and I went to osun state Osogbo n stayed one of my trips. You just have to be cautious in nigeria where you go and stay just like anywhere in the world.
@@DaCutieNation
The problem is you don’t accept it you do nothing about it.
@@sheilaaciro6336 what am I supposed to do about it if its happening ? I'm just telling u as a foreigner I've never had those issues.
I am sooo glad you guys are back!!
I literally just left Kampala last weekend and came to Zanzibar. I’m an American and have been living in Nairobi for a year and loved it but after traveling to Cape Town I decided to visit Kampala to consider moving there and I absolutely hated it. The people weren’t as friendly as the other places I had been like here in Tanzania everyone is friendly and I love it. I think I’ll give it another shot one day because I came immediately after leaving Cape Town so it was a major culture shock and I think that could’ve had a lot to do with my lack of enjoyment during my visit.
I love this topic. Coming from an African Caribbean with British influence, have a variety of cultural experiences in my upbringing from a mixed family dynamic, it was a struggle when I migrated to the USA. English from your country of origin does not translate to America English. Americans used to tell me “speak English”. I married a man from a southern state and that was even more interesting. When my daughter would visit her father’s people, they would refer to her as a “white girl” so the language struggle of just English alone is so real……..
Last night I went to a restaurant and the waitress was nervous because it was her first job and first night on her own; I said to her “just breathe” what she heard was “bring bread” so she brought bread to the table 😮😊.
I totally agree with Joanita. The way we speak English is influenced by our mother tomgue.Like here in England, I can tell a person which country they come from because of the way they speak their English. The most important thing is whatever accent you use its okey as long as the listener understands you. So we should be proud of our accents because that's what determines our identity. It's wrong to force an accent which is not yours just because you want to fit in.
Excellent discussion 👍 everyone
Why is it that wherever Americans travel they expect the destination country to be "just like or similar to America", if its not they say the country is not good, we really need to stop making America the "standard" for world and just appreciate the differences and unique qualities each country has to offer, seriously!
I mean because in the States are actually mini versions of many different countries in are country to make people from other countries feel more comfortable and accepted. Better yet we're forced to adapt to their culture norms in America. Now, in my health class they asked should they make it mandatory for college students to learn other cultures norms for more acceptance for people from other countries. When we travel or move we are expecting to adjust to country norms but not people coming to America.🥴😏💅🏾💞🌍💜🤭🤭🤭🤭
Let them stay in America then because I see them comparing African countries day in day out and we are tired of it
Well you guys need to improve your countries too instead of living so low generation to generation
Who needs to "improve" more than the USA? you all have issues all across the board, the country is broke debt: 34 trillion, politics: democrats and republican criminal cases left and right, drug abuse: resembles a zombie apocalypse, Illegal Migrants: getting more benefits than your own citizens, Racism, transgender, school shootings, currency debasement and the list goes on and on and on- wake up, America aint it! @@ucheanamonye4799
@@ucheanamonye4799 😏🤭👏🏽👏🏽💅🏾💞🌍💜 that part, five boards and nails the simple basics of building 🏢🏫. We built better clubhouses as kids.
Yes it would be good for her son to speak English as she does, however the way she's saying it will make him shame of his Ugandan side, her son growing up Uganda or in US doesn't matter. Her son having his father's heritage and his mother's heritage is amazing! Yes we need to get out this annunciation thing because all over US there's different dialects by states, and we tend to think/say folks are dumb that don't sound like us,(ie: southern accents) which we know is not the case! STOP THE MADNESS!! #WEAREONE
#Africa #Afrka #Alkebulan #Unity #One Africa ⚫️🖤♟️🏴
You can obviously tell how smart the cohost lady in brown is. It's the parent's duty to teach and instill values that play an integral role to individualism. You do not have to force a kid to conform just bzc u fear how the world will perceive them. The mother indirectly is transferring the same fear to the kid. The woman chose to raise the kid in UG she should have been prepared for the consequences.
But also the accents will be dictated by which schools the baby will go to .. let the baby attend an international school or home school . He will speak as she wishes
45:20… Master Gabs 💯 There’s so much I can respond to in this video but I will simply say this. In order to grow you must be open minded. Narrow mindedness can only lead to disaster later in life and THAT is a part of colonization. I applaud the guest and her family for what they are doing there in Uganda, improving the lives of the locals coming from a genuine love for our people, all Africans. I love it love it love it!! Thank you for coming on the podcast💖 Wonderful video 🎉
Uglish and bad accents are a very recent phenomenon in Uganda. My parent's generation spoke perfect standard English. Look at old footage of President Kabaka Muteesa speaking English, or President Binaisa speaking or even President Obote. The Ugandan phenomenon of direct translation of English grammar from Luganda or mispronounced words started after the 1960s. Before that era, anyone who went to a reasonably good school spoke close to the Queen's English.
Glad to see y’all back !
Kenganda provides some great information, and I applaud the host for his vision, however condemning all AA women is not fair and shows a lack of exposure and understanding. I remember when the host got very upset because he thought an AA woman on CZcams made a generalization about AA men, and preceded to attack this women every chance he got (it was very petty), yet I'm hear nothing but generalizations from him when it comes to AA women. Both of the men on this particular podcast, referred to the guest (an AA women) as an exception. The equivalent of "but you speak so well", very condescending. AA women are human beings, just like everybody else , there is the good, the bad and the ugly, and everything in between like everybody else on this planet!
@yalealy I agree with you wholeheartedly. It's unfortunate that he continues to reinforce stereotypes about AA women. I meet men all of the time who do not think I'm American based on those stereotypes. It is exhausting.
@@SherrieBumbrayDo you watch his other channel?
@@db6881 No, I do not watch the other channel. Unfortunately, I've seen several of those videos. I was introduced to Oshay long before he touched down in Africa.
Lol
Just a heads up, they are not real ethnic Jews, just in case so peopel don't get confused; their ancestors converted generations ago and kept the Torah tradition to a certain extent. The Igbo Jews in Nigeria, along with the Ugandan Jews and the Abayudaya Jewish community in eastern Uganda near Mbale, observe both Shabbat and Kashrut. However, it's crucial to note that Bantu peoples do not have any maternal genetic lineage or admixture from Judean, Jewish, or Hebrew backgrounds; they belong to completely different haplogroups. The only recognized Jewish African community in Africa is the Semitic Falasha, or Beta Israel tribe, located in the Tigray region of Ethiopia and Eritrea. Most of them have migrated legally to Israel as part of the lost tribes genetically and historically.
Joanita thank you for giving everyone a Ugandan word to pronounce
You guys are great promoting the African culture
I am a Melanated American woman. Households without both parents are foreign to me. I grew up with both parents who were educated. All my community and extended family had two parent households and educated. Of course some folks labeled us as elites, however it was the norm for me.
I'm a repat living in Tanzania and I really loved Nigeria a lot. I can understand why she'd want to be in naija land. Places like Uganda and Tanzania and probably Zambia don't have as much conveniences.
Kenya does
I agree with Joanita, we just can't change our character or heritage to just make others comfortable. We adjust when we visit their countries and learn their languages too, the least they can do is learn how to be comfortable with our culture too
One must be able to evaluate their character as heritage and make necessary changes to get better. Change usually means progress, failure to change- especially where there’s so many failed systems- means a slow and sad death.
Well played Jonita
I told people the largest black expat community is not in Ghana but Nigeria and the majority of them are married to Nigeria and most are concentrated in Lagos. Lagos is like little NYC on steroids.
If you have the largest black expat community why would you be bothered mentioning Ghana, obviously you don't believe that. I don't get why people like you always got Ghana on your mind, it's like you feel insecure 😂😂
@@knowledgeseeker6955 , he used Ghana as reference because Ghana is the most talked about place on the media. You have a problem too. Why would think he said that for a negative reason?
@anthonyclementson9658, you made my day. "Lagos is like New York on steroids"
@@sunnyyande378
How is it the most talked about in the media? It seems people like him are watching too many Ghana videos that may be the problem why he thinks that.
@@knowledgeseeker6955, It might interest you to know that almost all the major news outlets in the US and Europe have done one or more episodes on African Americans moving to Ghana. They haven't done like that for any other countries in Africa. Even the CZcams Videos and podcast you are talking about is now a major source of information for many people.
This was good show & that lady y’all had on podcast today was a sweet lady. How she talk & carried herself majority of black women in America don’t have that mindset she have.
Do u know the majority of Black womeb in America?
@@rucellenewell6022 I don’t know majority of black women in America. But I do know, they the least to get married & the quickest one’s to get divorce tho.
Also find the negative comments about Africa interesting. As many know, the nightlife, homes, artists and art scenes, networking in Africa are nicer than how many African Americans live in the US. They should research the different cultures, and make a trip to the Continent themselves. I believe their views will change.
So you're gonna compare the nice stuff of Africa to the bad stuff in America?
As a Kenyan🇰🇪, I would suggest they raise their kids in USA and then later they come to Africa when their kids are old. To me, accent is nothing what matters is, the kids gets good education and they understands and be understood by the world. Remember there are people who dont know English but French or Chinese and they live.
Kids can get a better education early and secondary in Africa than in America.
@@dugebuwembo But they seems preoccupied with American accent than things which are more important. What is accent if I may ask? Language is not a measure of intelligence.
@@jameskaimenyi6287 Yeah, it's a very westernised and colonial mindset! Many diasporans are confused, we grow up here in the west speaking English and our connection to our roots is weak at best, our parents carry the culture in ways we don't! Many of us are lost!
People forget that if Germany had won WW2, this conversation would be in German.
I like Uganda, to live there you have to adjust, things take time, some people are trying their up most best. I haven't been to Nigeria but wish her luck!
You know what…, I love Jonita…say the jay word….”that was incorrect” ! 😂😂😂😂❤! You got her girl. As an African born American, who was educated partly on both continents, I get the controversy, but always remember that accents make diversity interesting! Great job on this one guys! Blessings.
Wow Black people arguing who speaks better English . The English must be happy with there colonization efforts . US Colonization ,CANADA Colonization, Australia ,New Zealand, Uganda Colonization etc .
The native Americans stripped off their language and 100 million wiped out in in North America in 100 years . The Russians and Ethiopians are not native English speakers but they are OK . The world has 9Billion people . Part of America and UK colonization is language colonization .
Aptly on, 💯
Thank you very much. They’re delusional 😂.
@@MrILES-gu3xb For Black American historically fingers were cut if you spoke the ancestral languages other than the English White slave master languages .
this a young crowd
"Me and my husband"....is American English
"My husband and I...is British English.
Uganda and Kenya both follow British English in majority of our school curriculum.
@mambofornasa
@mambofornasa.Even in America "Me and my husband" in formal writing or speaking is incorrect English.
And yet they, AA think they speak better english than us, Africans. I have heard AA say “A accent for example, instead of An accent. A women for A woman, aks for ask. Mind boggling since they speak one language and should be perfect at that one language as compared to us Ugandans who speak multiple languages which sometimes leads us to have the so called “accent.” I cannot follow AA speeches sometimes when they speak because their grammars are so so terrible.
Joanita played you! The issue is not with accents. Most Ugandans have a hard time speaking and understanding English.
Ugandans: Your English is too much!
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African American men come from the same type of households African American women come from. We're raised in the same type of situation. It's weird to say you won't deal with someone who didn't come from a two parent situation when you haven't either. What would make a woman who was raised on a two parent situation want to be bothered with a man eho grew up in a single parent home? You're a risk for her.
Yes but we are raised and treated much different even by those same parents. And then the society treats us much differently.
@@jking5147 It's dysfunctional either way, you understand?
@bayyinahzhaxx7620 yes but that's not was he was talking about. He was specifically speaking about a women who wasn't raised with a father in the house.
Personally, I don't like the way he said it because it will prpbably lead to more harm then good but he made a very good point. I have dealt with majority of women in my life who wasn't raised with a man in the house and he hit the nail right on the head tbh. As much as it pains me to say it and the best most rounded women I have dealt with have had that male figure.
Ofcourse I am not saying all, there are some women raised with no male figure in the house who turn out fine as well. I am just speaking from my personal experience as I am sure he was.
@jking5147 You literally made my point. Now, imagine a woman raised by two parents trying to operate with a man raised by a single parent. It's a gamble for everyone. My best advice for people raised in single parent circumstances is to seek counsel, surround yourself with friends that come from complete families, and give yourself time to mature before getting into marriage. Life is messy enough as it is, so give yourself a chance at survival.
@@bayyinahzhaxx7620 yea, I cam agree with this.
I like the man in blue...he got my point ...point....in Uganda where we have had a president for 40 years...don't expect much...
Howver, when you come to Uganda be prepared to work and better your life and help others....
Uganda is not for the weak....you need to be prepared to have a positive attitude and be prepared to change things...the way you wantt them to be.....don't think you will find things working the way they work in America...
When u come to Uganda be ready to be innovative..period..
The Abayudaya are a Jewish community in eastern Uganda, near the town of Mbale. The Abayudaya's population is estimated to number between 2,000 and 3,000;[1] like their neighbors, they are subsistence farmers. Most Abayudaya are of Bagwere origin. Some, from Namutumba, are Basoga. They speak Luganda, Soga, or Gwere, and some have learned Hebrew as well
Interesting. Never knew about this.
Who was their leader during colonial times, Badri Kakungulu.
Ugandan English is based of British English no cap. However, there is another dialect of English around. So yeah.
At 15:07 the lady at the right is Emah Ansah. She's Canadian-Gha nian who is alive! She's a presenter on African Diaspora News Channel and has channel EA Publication . She's reported on the Gambia
So guests who are talking about racism and negative bias in the west because of aspects of their heritage are criticising the Ugandan accent and local lingo - every city has local lingo that is not necessarily grammatically correct- I know this to be true here in London 🤔 the irony!❗️❗️
@joanita thank you for standing your ground- you were the one who spoke sense on this topic
Yes: It only matters to pronounce words differently when we are black. Spanish, Korean, Japanese; etc., don’t matter as long as they’re white. And not all Americans use the same pronunciation of English. It depends where you are in the US. Africa was colonized by many so Christopher Columbus. We were colonized by British.
Some Americans not all. I am a school teacher and I have a multi lingual class. I say all their names correctly and when they butcher my name, I tell them get my name correct because too. It’s imperative. There is something in a name
Great conversation. Over the last six years I've had many friends and family members visit me and my family here in Uganda. Some just came to visit and are coming back after retirement; two stayed and three moved on to other African countries, or back to the states.
From my experience, older married couples, retirees, and single African American men seem to have an easier time assimilating in Uganda, but my sister moved here and stayed as a single black women.
There are romance, land and other scams to watch out for, and some repats have trouble adjusting to the paternalistic and conservative culture in Uganda, but overall the tropical climate, organic food, friendly people and lower cost of living, and virtually no racism make Uganda a great place to live.
Finally!!! 🎉🎉🎉 let’s gooooooo
Kenganda! Glad to see yall bring the podcasts back! You all have been missed! Ya'll the only podcast I know that brings Western blacks and Africans together! 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Thank u so much
13:57 to her point about other things that can help. Usually the message here is that black women from the west are told don’t come to Africa without a man. That message is much different than having an African partner/husband/etc is highly recommended or suggested because it’ll make things easier for you to assimilate here. Tone and context absolutely matter; words mean things. Not to mention, the messaging is often that these eligible men are taken. That’s not very encouraging vs find an African man as a partner who are likeminded/like status because it’ll make your life much easier because xyz. It also helps to share good places to meet these folks. It always make sense to build community, nuclear or extended, etc.
Also, shout out to this woman for sharing her journey. As a full being and person, just like many other women…I hope we can have more grace for them that are.
Being able to code switch is the best thing she could teach her son. It’s a cold world.
Welcome back
Gabs is 💯 on language and pronunciation. I recently had the thought of getting into the screen printing business and have found that the spelling and pronunciation of many words in Ugandan languages is very loose, even within the same cultural group. No matter what dialect in America, you will find that they are bound by the same spelling rules, which is not always the case in Uganda. That can create confusion in business and legal matters.
Great Episode!
What a lovely surprise to see the podcast format. Welcome back guys! Great topic.
In the way you adjust, it should be easier to get things done within that network. There should be a list of certified businesses in structure. People are sick of scam artist & those that waste your time.
Time is the only factor you can't get back !! I have no problem creating connections.
No matter how you people wanna talk down or bad about Nigeria. At the end everyone will realize that Nigeria is the place to be.
Nigeria???😂😂😂😂Fix your country first before asking for sympathy
Nigeria is just trash
It definitely was for me. I absolutely loved my time in Abuja, I stayed for 2 years.
@@billjames1216 who's looking for sympathy, and why these people leaving your countries in bulk?
@@sylviasworld9397, as a Nigerian, I just want to say thank you for saying it the way it is. Most people don't believe that there is a huge African Americans community in Nigeria because Nigerians don't talk about it on Social Media. Nigerians has its problems, but it is a very welcoming country, and its people are very nice.
Thank you so much Soshana
My son is 4 and is Tanzanian American and is funny I told someone the same thing yesterday. I don’t want him talking like that accent and I used the same example about saying water.
I really enjoy learning about african culture from this podcast but most of the Ugandans "mispronunciations" such as foreigner, are actually phonetically correct and make me appreciate how educated they must be.
Obviously she didn't have a support system in Uganda. Coming to Africa you will need some sort of support system, people you can trust and will steer you in the right directions. I say to people who have never left America before you go to Africa try and visit one of the caribbean countries, such as Jamaica, so when you visit Africa it will not be such a culture shock.
i agree with the guy.. you make your own little community like your vegetable lady, your meat person, your taxi guy and a within this people you will find someone that u trust that do things for you. It is not more difficult than in america,, it is just different,
There is nothing wrong with English spoken in Uganda rather that depends on one's level of education, the school they attended, and the teachers who taugh them. Besides there is no one form/accent of English, hence, one country's format shouldn't be the basis of judging others.
I do think Black American women are better off in the West. It takes African American males forever to find success in order to just take care of themselves,. Where are the husbands for the lovely Ugandan women that Shoshanna helps? Is there a single mother issue? Issues of abuse? Are the men raised not to be abusive toward women? Shoshanna & her husband are helping others which is great!
What are you talking about black women in the US aren't interested in smart stable black men for the most part. Just look at the men they date or have babbies with most are unsuccessful. Find another excuse
This comment was all over the place
Western women are not compatible with men from other regions. It doesn't work longterm. You can take the woman out of feminist society, but you can't take the feminist ideology out of the woman.
It's sad, why is it African countries are not organized in every way possible to make it easy for visitors and those who want to relocate there? For example, plumbers electricians, builders and etc should have their businesses published or televised. By doing so, those businesses will flourish. Give the locations of your business, phone numbers, street names and more. By doing so no one will be robbed in your country. Come on Africa wake up and up grade.
Respect based on how well one grasps and speaks english on a Pan African platform. It's why it is said that africans/blacks can not be liberated while speaking the colonizers' language.
African American enjoy South Africa, because the is more similarities as US.
how come that’, indians, Chinese, turkish, europeans , Lebanese, to mention but a few come settle in uganda and africa at large and establish successful businesses and not african americans ? the mentality that the world should be like usa or other people must adapt to my way of life or understanding is problematic. every human being where ever we go , we should be able to adapt to norms of the land and not try to changes stuff , that’ way we learn what to expect and live happy lives .
Outside of South Africa, hardly any of those groups are in Sub Saharan Africa aside from Chinese people doing infrastructure work. Just because you see a few Europeans or Indians in a spot, doesn't mean anything. The fact they stick out is much indicates there aren't many at all..
Your free to move anytime you want
Omg! Thats crazy! You move from Uganda to Nigeria❤I love Nigerians, but Nigeria IS tough.❤❤
What's wrong with nigeria
What's wrong with nigeria
Nigeria is not tough. Your ignorance is tough. Plenty of black Americans are living there and building and they are well off. 😂😂😂😂😂😂✌️
😂😂😂 Unto each her/his own. Africa has a super-diverse culture. Let’s be adventurous and find our best fit. 🦾🦾🦾
She got lucky. Usually foreign women to Africa find it difficult to get a man who is more wealthy than her.
I'm always happy to hear Gabs thoughts and opinions. It's unfortunate that he has such a negative opinion of AA women based on the experiences of his AA friends. Imagine if we all based our opinions of African men on the actions of Yahoo Boys and scammers. 😅
Did he just say Black women are only good for jump offs.. Huh? Who is the worst person the person who does not have perfect guidance or the person that knows someone does not have good guidance and use their traumas against them for their benefit.
I think for her to have her son archive both accents is for her son to have his early education in the United States, the come back to Uganda for his secondary education, he could later go for his university wherever he wish to.
The men who continue to say that they have problems with African American women. I'm going to go out on a limb and say the women that they are choosing is probably based on looks because you know men like to say their visual creatures. I bet that majority of these men who speak about this aren't dating a woman like the woman that they're talking to. No offense to her but I mean they're trying to date women who are most likely what Kevin Samuel described. And then when they get the attitude that is coming with that kind of woman in the way that she looks they try to discredit all African American women. But I think if you simply dated what you would consider dating down, look wise you might not have that problem. And I would like to hear what other people think on this.
I am Ugandan and l feel very offended when you refer to Nigeria in that light. There is no perfect country in this world,even Usa is not. Stop creating these divisions. We were all Africans before the colonisation sliced us into these small countries.
Don’t mind their ignorant and you will even think they are smart but empty heads. You will never see a Nigerian say such
The fact Africa isn’t for everyone, particularly for African descents who born in Western World, African life style won’t be easy for them, visiting and living two things different.
what will yall do when Babylon is no more?
Depends if they have money they can insulate themselves from the society at large. $3k USD a month is enough to do that. Most will never be able to live as a local does. Vast majority of Sub Saharan families live on less than 1k USD a month.
@@user-nz5dh6qq5xYou would be the first to cry about dirt roads and no KFC
@@BonVoyage861 am African used to dirt roads and i know how to make my own kfc
@@user-nz5dh6qq5x Oh it that case you need to check your people there. They are desperate to get into Babylon, or maybe Sub Saharan Africa is Babylon..
Joan is my baby for sure but Joan you don't know. My name is Sekou I'm a Black American and Agabba is speaking true facts.