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- The lionfish is the worst invasive species in the world: it destroys biodiversity of its territory, taking up more and more space in the ocean. Lionfishes are the cause of several extinctions. To counter this phenomenon, scientists are starting research programs and exterminating individuals in certain areas.
Extract from the documentary: "Conquerors - The Lionfish"
Direction: Jérôme Ségur
Production: ZED & ARTE France
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Ominous voice: "If a diver gets caught in the current, he'll miss the wreck, and find themselves stranded among the bull sharks that circle the zone", zooming in an awkward sand shark just minding his own bussiness
Greatest comment 😅👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
That’s not a bull shark! 🙄
Anything to sensationalize! How are we supposed to be believe anything else they say when they can’t identify a bull shark or sandbar shark properly?
Heard this as I was reading this lol
hahahahah
That one kid who released his pets all those years ago watching this just fucking sweating
No it's the baby boomers that did this did you even watch the video?
@@stellviahohenheim It's okay most boomers will be dead in another decade and everyone left will be eating lionfish and carp tacos.
@@stellviahohenheim reading is hard, they clearly said "all those years ago" implying the kid caused the invasive take over without realizing it back then
@@stellviahohenheim Hes making a joke, settle down.
@@stellviahohenheim read harder
Came from aquariums. People let them go. I had one in my tank, but I’d never, ever release one into the ocean where it isn’t native. They didn’t migrate to the Atlantic. The same thing with iguanas, chameleons, and various non-native snake species in Florida that have become a serious problem.
I couldn't say better, but how do they go into the Sea? Straightforward every Hurricane from Florida down will take houses down and if there are any Pet lovers with aquariums and other animals will be released into nature without any control, Like Piton snakes, and many other animals. The USA must make regulations on any animals that are not native to the region and ban them from any use by any means, they can learn from Australia's policies, and this is how they protect their own nature.
Yea a popular aquarium fish. Here in Australia back in the early 70’s two mates (divers also) captured a Lion Fish each and took them home to their tropical aquarium, only to rue the day!
The Lion Fish ate some really expensive tropical fish before one was euthanised and the other sold to a pet shop!
It’s the same here with goldfish up here! They decimate ponds and lakes. If you can’t keep a pet fish, just kill it with clove oil.
@@patcummins6036 yeah, they’ll gobble up a lot of fish, if they are small enough!
actually they might of been introduced from ballast tanks.boat picks up eggs then drops them off some where else spreading them to different parts of the world.
truth is pet keeping is used has a scapegoat for a lot of invasive species issues cause it's easier to blame pet keepers.
pythons used to make leather got released from a poorly built breeding facility.
african land snails and brown anoles are from things like shipping.
snakeheads where from a guy that released them on purpose to sell to chinese food markets.
goldfish are from people using them has live bait.
parrots from theme parks improperly taking down bird enclosures.
monkeys and african pouched rats from laboratories.
They have started popping up in the Mediterranean as well. Went diving in greece a couple of weeks ago and saw several.
They're all over Lebanon too. It's super tasty fried, so we're encouraging people to try it :D
and this is why scapegoating pets is bad.cause the real issue gets ignored and spread continues.
there fish are from ballast tanks dumping water in different areas.
@@briannaharter4411 the canal is the likely route re. the Mediterranean
@@briannaharter4411 It’s _both._ But in Florida, it's usually traceable to irresponsible pet owners.
Yep, saw one too.
The Americans releasing their pets put of compassion to the life of one fish, and that act of ignorance destroys an entire ecosystem across a continent. The same old repetitive story. Ignorance is the worst evil.
yep it is.that's why being ignorant about how these animals really got to florida is evil.they are from ballast tanks.
@@briannaharter4411 he clearly mentions that these fish are descendants of about a dozen pets released by owners.
@@briannaharter4411 Did you even watch the video?
@@TheBinoyVudi could have been a accidental release
huricane wrecking homes that contained aquariums with lionfish
Destroyed, or made it better?
i'm sure we, as humans, can over fish the lionfish to endangered or extinct status (or at least in the Atlantic Ocean). Commercialize it into pet food, human food, and find a use for the venom in the spine.
Most organically derived drugs and a few spices are originally evolved to be poison (though most often poison intend for insects). I'm sure we could make something of the venom with some ingenuity.
I give it 10 years or so until we get a lionfish drug mafia
I reccomend report cards and bounties!
They are actually a very good eat
@@dickscrossedgarage they do have bounties in some parts of Africa that touch the Mediterranean sea
They did, gut not enough meat to be get commerclized. I've seen plenty people people eat them, they are safe unless you eat spine soup
It's crazy how this is literally like an invasion during war the way they took over territories
Those were sand tiger shark not bull sharks. They are very docile creatures
Lol I was just about to comment this!
Almost the exact opposite of bull sharks 😂
Sand tigers don't bite often either
@@thecasualatvguy617 that’s what docile means
Funny, cuz they're called bull sharks in Italian
"worst invader on the planet"
Humanity: *nervous laughter*
I'm not an invader, I'm native to this planet earth.
@@christopherlewis1315 🤓
Wait are humans aliens
@@christopherlewis1315 💀
Agreed ,just look whats happening in the Amazon :(
I came from a video where they were spearing lionfish and feeding them directly to sharks and eels. I figured they were venomous, soooo?
They are venomous, you are correct. The animals they are feeding them too are capable of eating them without much harm coming to themselves.
It’s more of a hope that we can expedite the process of making natural predators for Lion fish by making the already present ones acknowledge them as food.
They are going to be scientists and conservationists so would know which predators to teach to eat them and which not too, with the poisonous spines in mind
Came from the same video haha
Same what rabbit hole is this
Haha same
The lionfish can be controlled if there are sufficient groupers and wrasses in the Atlantic. Basically any fish (aside from sharks) that is bigger than the lionfish. They eat lionfish. Unfortunately, those fishes are overfished. So if you want to control the lionfish population, deploy more groupers and wrasses in your area. Don't eat them.
But what will control the population of groupers and wrasses?
@@typingcat Us... he just said it.
@@typingcat Groupers and wrasses are natural inhabitants of the Atlantic. It is also a very good problem if there are so many of them. Unfortunately, Americans love them so much that they are almost extinct in the part of the US.
Why don't u eat lionfish as part of your diets? Human stomach is the most potent method to wipe out lionfish
lack pf education
people think one part of the animal is venomous or poisonous, they will hessitate to eat it
You don't need nets and tanks, you need spears and grills.
they are capturing them for study, and that is far more powerful than any spear.
@@justsomerandombirdwithinte5896 They caught 30 live specimens in half an hour. imagine how many they could have killed in that time with just one dedicated kill diver.
@@fate3071 nope, study could result in a more effective way.
@@justsomerandombirdwithinte5896 you misunderstood what I was saying. I was saying that while they had the team collecting live specimens, they could have had one person on kill duty alongside them.
@@fate3071 Im still correct
Make them popular in Sushi Restaurants!
Just give their fillet a fancy name, give it a sexy ad and price them “high-end”. They’ll be an endangered species in a few years haha
Recommend them to China or the stupid tradition medicine (like rhino horns and tiger parts)... tell them if they eat these fish every day for a month they will get fertility and wealth... and then tell them they are strictly protected and endangered and its a crime to catch them... Then they will become nearly extinct like the other rare animals they use.
To add to that, make it out to be a poor persons food, greedy rich people always need to take from the poor in all ways.
There is a search on for how to catch them at a rate that makes them commercially viable. Right now divers spear them one at a time since lionfish will not bite a hook. They can live a lot deeper than the recreational diver can go. For the last few years there has been experiments with various trap designs with mixed results.
I have eaten lionfish battered and fried as well as smoked and mixed into a cream cheese spread. It is delicious.
The problem is it is a labor intensive catch kind of like conch or lobster.
Eating them will not make them endangered. At best, it will help control the population at depths above 100'.
When I was 12 years old my cousin made deep fry fish it was the most delicious delicious fish I ever eat in my life. That fish was the lion fish. If everyone knows how good lion fish is, there won't be no more lion fish
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I use to catch these fish when fishing off a small bridge near Cape Cod Massachusetts in the 80’s but I was a kid and didn’t know it was an invasive species just had to be careful of the spines
What did you do with them? Did you eat them?
@@michaelcraig9449 just released them. this was in the early 80's we didn't know they were a invasive species. i didn't even know what invasive meant at that age lol would have killed it personally if had known
They were probably oyster toads
I can promise you they were not lionfish you were catching
I feel bad being a kid in the late 80's. We had a piranha that was a menace and it was getting quite large. Eventually we put it in a bucket, just like in this video, drove off to a nearby lake and dropped it in. I'm sure it lived happy, short life in that lake. If it somehow managed to not be eaten by the local fish, which are quite a lot bigger than a piranha the cold would have finished it off as the winter came. That lovely northern Scandinavian winter where you barely will see the sun for almost half a year. I've noticed that tropical fish have a problem with the cold and ice. My defense is we didn't know better which is a really bad defense no matter what.
3:03 isn't that a sand tiger shark ? 😮 thought bull sharks had a blunt nose and theeth not so prominent 🤔
Could have been irresponsible fish owners, or could have been any of the crazy hurricanes in the 90's that hit Florida. Either way I can't believe how devastating they are and how quickly they adapted and traveled
Im sure it is stupid people who let them free and not think any consequenses...
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Freight ship ballast water.
People are actually the planet's worst invaders. Sorry lionfish, you only take the silver.
I mean yea we originated from south and central africa
Cats
@CanisMalus shush tiny man.
@CanisMalus so true, oldest human remains found in europe, but we wuz afrikans n shiet instead
Bryan Russell: an yet you are still breathing, and crying on the internet! I hope you didnt have children if you are SO concerned!
This is number One example to people, who keeping any animals as a pet, sometimes natural disasters can create more disaster with your help.
Lionfish is edibles,far more healthy than the junk foods. Just removes the venomous spines.
white people dont know the meaning of natural food
go ahead eat it ma men
Well then I have a solution to the problem. Make it a delicacy of the Atlantic coast. A tourist trap. There population in the Atlantic will plummet as more people want to try them.
Problem is catching them. They need to be hand caught! Thanks to you stupid aquarium keepers!
World chefs and celebrities should elevate this fish to be a delicacy and then lionfish will be an endangered species.
these lion fish are getting Very very large
With no natural predators to keep their numbers in check, lionfish can get very big
9:08 why would you do that?
Rite
Someone's never heard of aquariums lol
Its obvious it came from the oversized fishtank of a coke dealer somewhere in San Diego
Whats ur fanz only?
@@blanko7971 my mans is down bad
I think you probably failed in Geography, cause San Diego is in the Pacific side of the country.... LOL 😂
Don’t release them just to make skits
They probably recaptured them
That's kind of messed up
it might be illegal to capture them
@@ramen4302 its legal to wipe your ass with these things thats how invasive they are. wouldn't recommend it tho
You see how slow they swim
I remember it was introduced by movie Deuce Bigalow and that time it was fascinating back then , 20 yrs later there's an infestation of lionfish.
We had Lionfish in Tampa in the late 1970s. 20+ years before Deuce Bigalow.
I've been trying to think of what movie it was for years now. I remember the big tank and he accidentally killed it or something. But yep it was Deuce Bigalow
Naked Gun had a lionfish in it as well.
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03:00 Yeah, that's a sand tiger, not a bull shark . . .
I was just thinking that, they’re usually pretty docile although there’s been a noticeable rise in attacks in the past month
I watched someone try and pet one in my college roommate's aquarium. He screamed like a small girl. It was amazing.
That’s a boneheaded move!
My uncle had one in his aquarium in Moonachie, NJ. He told me (a youngster at the time) the sting would kill me. I was waiting for them to talk about the deadly sting this entire video, had no idea 😂
@@MackNcD I have seen one fellow get stung while cleaning a lionfish. It is like getting stuck with a needle. It bled pretty bad. It is more like bad bee's sting, from what I understand. I have been fortunate not to have been stung by one, yet.
@@MackNcD Coyote Peterson made a video intentionally getting stung by a lionfish. It's... entertaining.
These guys are so talented and smart!!
He has already invaded the Mediterranean. A year ago I have seen for the first time two of them in Monemvasia/Greece. This year taking vacation again in Monemvasia, about 30/40 of them where around the same spot ! But it's not only the lionfish many more unknown species have invaded and unfortunately some of them are quite dangerous , especially for consumers!
Take it as multiculturalism
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I like how they impose morals onto a wild animal. It doesn't know or care how bloody young its food is.
"Dont be fooled, Jimmy. If this lionfish had the chance it would eat you and everyone you love."
American production. Even the ominous background music reminds me of a movie theater. So predictable.
@@johannuys7914 As a non-american, I gotta ask, why tho? It seems like the same mentality that allows gun ownership.
I don't think they were imposing morals. Just showing it is a voracious eater, and the dramatic music is to show how decimating it is to the environment. Think it's pretty obvious a fucking fish doesn't have a flying fuck about feelings or morals.
@@johannuys7914 I wouldn’t say it’s an American thing, adding human traits onto animals has been a staple of nature documentaries for years
Great comment.
their sting even a very little can make you feel like having a fever and the pain in the affected area at the same time..
Back in the 60's lionfish could be found in Aquarium shops! [ they were tiny and 'cute' ] They sold quite well...the problem is that they would grow in size to accommodate the size of the aquarium they were in. When they got to big - they were thrown into the nearest river or beach area. They are survivors!
Should have just eaten them throw them into the woods. But of course hind-sight is 20/20.
Need robot fish to hunt down and kill lion fish.
When I lived in Amman , Jordan back in 1971 i was 9, lionfish were prevalent all over the Red Sea, AKA Aqaba. saw them as we were snorkeling.
The other day I just watch a doc on giant groupers and they eat the lion fish whole without problem, so probably sharks and other large predators can handle them just fine. Maybe a little sting initially, but they'll probably become immune once they eat enough of them
Hopefully they start eating a lot more over time so other species of reef fish can rebound. Lionfish start making monocultures on some reefs
Having been diving around the Caribbean for the last couple of years, I can say they are a constant. They are everywhere. Some places the SCUBA divers spear them and then feed them to nurse sharks. As a result nurse sharks will follow divers looking for a free meal. They will go so far as to push a lionfish out of where it is hiding in the coral in the hope a diver will kill it and feed the lionfish to them. The nurse sharks will not kill the lionfish themselves, but depend on the divers to kill it before feeding it to them. I saw one comment before that divers are teaching the nurse sharks to eat with a fork. I have also seen divers feed lionfish to moray eels, reef sharks, and barracuda. If the lionfish are cut up into pieces, just about any fish will eat them, but what I have seen other fish just leave healthy lionfish alone.
Recent "lessons learned" reports have concluded divers feeding other predator fish with the dead or wounded lionfish has not been effective in controlling the population, but merely makes the other fish more aggressive around divers.
Pretty sure there's a research group trying to teach sharks in the Atlantic to eat Lionfish.
The big fishes indeed will eat the lionfish. Unfortunately, there are very few of them left in the Atlantic due to overfishing.
@@dtwilight73 there's mixed success with that. In at least one case, the shark didn't learn to hunt lionfish, it learned to follow divers around for food.
So if there no predators to control the lionfish, will they eventually eat other lionfish?
Lion fish are too big to eat each other.
Eventually a predator would evolve to eat the lionfish after they became abundant, since it would present a new niche. The problem is that by that point, the ecosystem they invaded would be utterly destroyed.
There've been some efforts to train sharks and eels in the Bahamas to begin hunting lionfish, and it appears to be working. They just wave a pole with a bleeding lionfish in front of predators they know can handle the spines, and once it takes it, they hope it remembers it can eat that.
@@celarc99 probably trains the sharks to follow divers around for a free meal as well.
@@MusMasi theres a couple of reports of shark and a moray eel biting the hand of some spear fishing divers not involved in the training.
still, just a small price to deal with the extinction of a lot of species
@@MilkT0ast the big ones will eat the little ones.
Florida Man strikes again.
As a florida man I see so much wrong in this vid
Great work.
Finally, someone who says “Beaufort, NC” correctly. I float by that research center all the time.
Oh, it's that one from Freeding Frenzy.
'Worst invader on the planet'
Hi, yes, rabbits, cane toads, foxes and cats would like a word with that assertion.
Ocean reefs have a huge amount of biodiversity and extremely dense with life. So it is likely true that this fish is far worse than those others ones, simply due to where it lives.
@@Lilitha11 That may well be the case. I'm in Australia, so those examples are things that I know particularly have screwed up our native animals. All of those species are introduced and have caused serious issues.
@@stefanielaris2173 Yeah, there is a lot of danger to introducing new species to places where they weren't before. Naturally they gradually migrate so other animals can adjust to them but just dropping them in is horrible.
American: I don't want this fish anymore. Dumps it into the ocean.
Scientists: work for decades to find answers
Nature always has it's way of balancing itself out, groupers have started hunting them, and figuring out how to get around their spines.
The other day I saw a video of spearfishers catching them and feeding them to groupers and sharks in an attempt to teach them to eat lionfish. Seems to work well enough.
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Imagine devastating an ecosystem because you didn't have the heart to kill a weird looking fish
We used to have a lion fish and we kept it with all of our other fish until it ate most of them and my dad was hella mad because the fish were so expensive lol.
Wonder how it travelled and became the worst invader, oh i remember now.
Good thing is they taste amazing. I always catch as many as I can
They have good quality meat and a delicate flavour.
Those spines are no match for the cold steel of a speargun.
A video of divers spear fishing Lionfish and feeding them to Sharks and eels led me to this video
link u the 3rd to comment this
Funny that the species which invade every corner of the earth wanna talk about invasion.
In the carribbean we are able to freedive and spear these fish. They also taste great.
Funny looking Bull Shark! Looks exactly like a Grey Nurse, completely nonaggressive / harmless!
All they gotta do is hold monthly competitions and the top 3 who can catch the most lion-fish get money prizes. They can also make lion fish free for anyone to catch without license and at any size. They can also create campaigns on how to prepare and eat lion fish and how to catch. They can also make it so that restaurants who serve over a certain amount of lion fish in a year gets taxed less. Anyways point is, there’s a lot that can be done to stop this invasive species. I believe humans can make any species go extinct with the right regulations.
Who care about where they come from. The main point should be how to control and resolve this issue!!!
We can’t it’s to many of em
if you find out where they came from and how it happen you can help prevent similar situations from happening in the future
@@racekpizduskin3740 Many invasive species are introduced to new areas by ships dumping their ballast tanks.
Lamprey and Zebra Mussels got into the Great Lakes that way.
@@gryph01 That theory just isn't plausible for lion fish. The Panama Canal is not the Suez.
I'll be dang, I live right here in Beaufort NC where the research was done but I had no idea.
“Life breaks free. Life expands to new territories. Painfully, perhaps even dangerously. But life finds a way.”
― Michael Crichton, Jurassic Park
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"It all began in Florida"
OF COURSE it did, where else?
It’s funny I was just talking about lionfish with a friend a day ago. And now i see this video. Phones are listening
3:02 The show mentions Bull sharks then shows a Reef shark, distinguishable by its protruding front teeth, while Bull's display no teeth. Good job guys.
Ya, i noticed the same thing.
It's like us dumb viewers doesn't know the difference,,,, yes we do.!!
The absolute state of journalism
I knew it wasn’t a bull, but I thought it was a tiger
also incorrect. Is a sand tiger shark lol
It's really not much of a mystery, humans did it like most invasive pests that are normally isolated until we break that isolation
And that my friend is why we should eat them.
Are you able to catch them?
I loved having a lion fish in my salt tank. It's an awesome fish to watch.
I seldom see such fish here.
It's a good delicacy :)
I occasionally see them in Crete, Greece too.
Kill em
Just watched an Outdoor Channel cooking show do an episode on lionfish. After safely removing the spines and scales, drip lime juice on the fillets, refrigerate 30min, and make ceviche.
Definitely getting a crispy fried lion fish when i go home
Interesting fish
Man trying to rid himself of his competition
Humans: Destroy native Lionfish habitat
Lionfish: 'ight, ima headout
Humans: surprised Pikachu face
Nah, they didn't swim round to the Atlantic
Worst invasion? You forgot about the human invasion
thats not a bull shark 🦈
There's probably some old dude out there dress like Crockett who used to have a fish tank with lionfish that he let go and watching this video. Thinking. Oh shhhiiiittt
Why would you release this super bad invasive fish back into the water???
people don't have enviromental education. And back in the 80's it was even worse for sure. So you don't want it anymore, but still don't want to kill. The mercy of a few means the killing of millions
It's an aquarium...
This is why we need to start eating lion fish! They are supposedly quite delicious. If we can commercialize them, we will get their population under control.
Why travel out to capture Lionfish when there are so many damaging reefs closer to shore? They get specimens & help eradicate at the same time.
it takes millions of years just for a reef yo fully grow so i dont see any chance of saving damaged reefs
i guess it's because that at this site you already have a established population, and fully grown individuals. Haven't read the research papers justifying the collection site
@@juninhupk Dense population of full grown specimens was I think what the said in the video.
HERE IN ST LUCIA WE HAVE ALOT
The movie Duce Bigalo definitely attracted many fish lovers to
Beautiful fish :)
I think we should make it food that way it will become scarce quickly.
We need to start a vast commercial fishing market for these guys and start serving them across the country at many seafood restaurants in order to reduce their numbers drastically. They look very delicious when served, that I wish I didn’t have to go to Florida or the South Eastern in general to try them.
My friend had one of these in his aquarium , they are very aggressive feeders .
The Indian Ocean habitat is practically identical to that of the Carribbean, and lionfish in no way yurned these into a desert.
They're easy to catch & They're made of food.
We're obviously not eating enough of Them.😁
We are the lionfish
I saw one last week….in the Mediterranean, the Aegean, Greece.
Set up competitions for lionfish hunting
No need to go out in the cold water. Just come down to key largo and you can get a few hundred in 1 dive with that many people capturing them.
Maybe the worst invasive species, but a beautiful one at that
Fish them into extinction in the areas where they are none native. Their meat is a delicacy.
I’m seeing a vivid comparison
So it’s the chimera ant of the ocean.
The government should promote a bounty system. Make them valuable enough to kill for profit.
Has no one seen the 80's movie where a baby alligator is flushed down a toilet then grows into a man eater in the NY sewers?
Lion fish came to the Atlantic by way of the illegal pet trade. in the late 70's early 80's the coming of the drug cartels and that drug money driven lifestyle saw to individuals seeking things of high cost and exclusivity. In the US southern most states particularity Florida, ground-zero for the cocaine narcotics scene, it was common for those in the drug trade to deck their homes out with things of exotic nature. exotic pets and large aquariums, and one of the most desired fish of the time were Lion Fish. Anyone and everyone with a large aquarium were interested in acquiring these fish. they were showcased heavily in music videos and all things pertaining to high end exclusivity. The problem was that such large salt water aquariums were extremely costly and hard to maintain. and instead of destroying the fish when they could no longer care for them, people simply dumped them in the local water ways, canals and back in the ocean, never thinking for a minute what damage the fish were capable of. And so their population as invasive species had exploded. This spreading of invasive species through active pet trade retailers is alive and well today, And florida continues to suffer from thousands of new invasive species. One only has to fish along side any road with water runnoff and youd be absolutely shocked as to what fish exists in florida water ways. ALL the major exotic fish and those extremely exclusive and rare to regions around the globe can readily be found in florida's water ways. the lion fish is just the tip of the iceberg.
The key question is what are its competitors in the Pacific and why they are not prevalent in the Atlantic
Jeez. Bull Sharks have such raggedy mouths!
They released one of the venomous fish on the ocean? Sound like a crime.
They exist in the ocean moron just not the Atlantic Ocean they are resident to the pacific,
Turn off the screen you will see the most aggressive invader.
they look slow but they very FAST