Thank you for reuploading this. I dont know how you got it, but thank you! I liked to refer to this a lot, then one day last year my channel disappeared after 60k subs. This was by far my favorite video though. -Metal Scar
You were my favorite channel for simpsons stuff! I'm still upset you got removed. I'll probably reupload more of your stuff later. I downloaded some of my favorite videos for a long road trip.
They were referencing 30, 40, even 50 year old movies in a time when the Internet barely existed, and they did it with nuance. The cleverness that went into this show is unbelievable.
That's because those movies were in the cultural zeitgeist. People back then considered (many of) those movies timeless masterpieces and not "old stuff" that today would be "weird, weird".
I can't count how many times that a scene in a movie I'm watching catches me off-guard because I suddenly recognised it from an old _Simpsons_ episode. I'm like _"Oh, NOW I get it.. ~20 years later."_ 😂
Someone always comments this thinking they are having an original thought. The Simpsons haven't been remotely funny or even watchable for over 15 years while Family Guy has had plenty of hilarious bits in that time. FG is sketch comedy, which is fine. And while never as good as Simpsons at its peak, have still provided plenty of laughs.
@@DoctorJammer Family Guy is sloppy and vulgar with their jokes that they intentionally stretch them out to make the 20 minute runtime. I would take 2000-2008 Simpsons over anything Family Guy.
If you don't like it why are you talking about it ? Comparison is the thief of joy and the Simpsons is good on its own without you needing to build it up by putting something else (fg) down. Fyi
@@DoctorJammer 15 years is generous. The Simpsons died with the 90s, and what's been around since is the zombie incarnation of it. That being said, the first 9, maybe 10, seasons of The Simpsons is probably the best thing in the history of television. Comparing FG to it is unfair.
Amazing that all these years later there are still lesser known or even obscure film references being picked up in classic Simpsons. The writers and directors on the show truly were film lovers.
The movies shown were either classics or popular in its time. If they're obscure now, it's only because time hasn't been so kind to some. But they weren't obscure when the Simpsons parodied them.
@lifeisgood420365 in the episode where Lisa became Ms. Springfield she's standing on a box and taking an othe I wish I could tell you what photo but I can't recall. That's one example. I just found this out, in season 13, there's a gag where Lenny had a photoshoot from Richard Avedon.
I alwayes liked how you could enjoy classic Simpsons episodes without understanding any of the movie parodies that they were doing unlike later episodes and so many other shows that were pretty much relying on the viewer knowing the reference. The references were just a little bonus but the main plot/message was and is just timeless.
17:07 one of my favourite ever simpsons moments in history. the blatant ignorance of social awareness homer has & the awesome music to go with it. awesome
There are SO many Citizen Kane references, especially in early Simpsons. In the episode with "Oh, Streetcar", Homer boredly playing with a tattered Playbill. Mr. Burns running for Governor is FILLED with them, but I want to single out the nearly direct quote, "Is your boss Governor, yet?" Burns trying to track down his Teddy Bear, Bobo, is filled with parallels to Rosebud. And one of the weirdest, on the episode where the Plant goes on strike, there's a transition with a vulture that looks like Mr. Burns. A reference to the infamous "Cockatoo transition", which was basically one of the earliest jumpscares in film.
Interesting. Psycho and Clock work Orange seemed to have a lot too. Godfather legacy too, and if course 2001 Space Odyssey. I always loved the T2. "Hmmm, I guess he didn't see me." Such a funny punch line to the whole bit.
"Guess Who's Coming to Criticize Dinner?" has the whole exchange between Lisa doesn't want to ghostwrite for Homer anymore is pretty much lifted from Citizen Kane, took me forever to notice it.
lol I never realized that. I love when jokes go that deep. I think it was the movie Airplane where a woman says "he doesn't ask for a second cup of coffee at home" and the woman saying it was the same actress from the commercial saying that exact line.
missed a few...The Fugitive, planet of the apes, The Birds (when Maggie was in daycare), more Ben Hur "you truly are the king of kings", and Rear Window (when Bart Broke his leg)
I have to also say, in the "Officer and a Gentleman" reference, kudos to the Simpsons composer for an absolute masterful soundalike for "Up Where We Belong" ...
You know, your comment reminds me of the time that I was in a bed and woke up with a horse head next to me because I turned down a request from a Mafia don ... [wavy lines]
I know we're supposed to pretend it doesn't exist, but "Stark Raving Dad" had a reference to "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" with that patient that plays the chief.
So many great memories. I started watching The Simpsons when I got posted out to Hong Kong in 1993, so every one of these episodes takes me back to my time over there watching it with the lads.
Probably Al Jean. Most of the 20+ year old movie references can be attributed to him. That’s why he was perfect to helm The Critic, cause it was nothing but movie references.
This is amazing! I grew up watching the Sampson’s from the age of 8 and the majority of these references were from films I’ve only watched since being an adult… pure genius!
8:35 the song SSB sings/parodies is "Something Stupid" by Frank and Nancy Sinatra 9:15 Mandella Effect: Tom Cruise does not wear sunglasses during that particular scene. 18:33 "The Sound Of Silence" by Simon & Garfunkle
When Bart said "Top of the World, Ma" in Tell-Tale Head (clipped here for the Godfather reference), that's also a movie reference: Cagney in White Heat
I remember in the old days of this kind of cross reference video, they would always play the clips sequentially. I guess only later on did we finally get simultaneous clips. We've come a long way since windows movie maker.
Also the Charles Whitman sequence. It _might_ have been influenced in how it was presented by a TV movie based on it, but was mainly referencing the actual shooting and people's general knowledge of it. The shots don't appear to be quite close enough for me to see it as a clear visual inspiration.
What about the scene after Homer and Marge got married at that casino, Shotgun Pete's? I'm talking about the part where they're outside the Carvel store and Homer is getting the fudgy the whale cake that says "to a whale of a wife." And then the Levis truck goes by and he says "Do you think that truck is full of jeans?" I know I've seen that exact scene in a movie before. I think it might be a Sandra Bollack movie, but I'm not sure. I think it might even be from Officer and a Gentleman. But I know I've seen that exact scene in a live action movie on TV before. But I never see any references to it anywhere, not even on the Simpsons wiki or anything.
My film studies lecturer would talk about classic movies and, if someone didn't know which one he meant, he'd say "remember that Simpsons episode where...." The one i remember most was Rear Window, which wasn't in this list, now i think about it.
I would have loved this in college, I had to take a film class for English and recognized all the old films 😊 Just needs some Deniro, Goodfellas, Apocalypse Now, Sergio Leone, Arthur Minelli, etc. and it'd cover most of the syllabus
Most of them in the early years were Harvard Graduates. Many had written for the Harvard Lampoon. Al Jean, Mike Reiss, Conan O’Brien, Jon Vitti, Jeff Martin, George Meyer, Nell Scovell. All Harvard boys.
The references made really show that you need encyclopedic level of film knowledge. Beyond that, the examples here are specifically about iconic cinematography than references while also twisting them to be their own thing. I refuse to believe that Simpsons today somehow forgot how to do this, or that no other show before or after it mastered the craft, but consider this. Simpsons did it in such a way that anything else following format feels like a cheap imitation. Maybe we should be thankful for how Family Guy instead relies heavily on cutaway gags for references. What Simpsons has here is beautiful, no other word for it, and demonstrated to me what cinema is about more than any other movie, sitcom, game, reference or what have you ever hoped to tell me. Pop cultural references are not a sin. You don't have to make them alienating when you don't know the source (see Family Guy). Simpsons use it to convey their story/jokes. I wonder if that's the only way you can pump in so many at once, cause the other ways I know feel too distracting (plus, you know, Simpsons does those too)
0:08 I don't get how this is a reference to Alex's conditioning scene in Clockwork Orange. The setup is completely different. An actual Simpsons reference to that in scene Clockwork Orange is at 8:15, from Dog of Death when Santa's Little Helper is going through Mr Burns' training program.
The shock chair thing isn't really from A Clockwork Orange. The two scenes aren't the same. In the show, the whole family is wired into a device enabling them to shock each other. In A Clockwork Orange, Alex is strapped into a device that forces his eyes open so he can watch conditioning footage. They really aren't the same at all. Three Men and a Comic Book is based almost completely on The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, and the scene where Bart is holding onto Milhouse by the sleeve could come from a dozen movies with a similar setup. Not sure how you landed on Saboteur. Pretty sure the Beverly Hillbillies reference is to the TV show, not the weird 1993 movie.
A clockwork orange reference is in the episode where Mr Burns had Santas little Helper brainwashed into being a trained killer like Alex was forced to watch violence. Not the Family shock therapy episode.
Thank you for reuploading this. I dont know how you got it, but thank you! I liked to refer to this a lot, then one day last year my channel disappeared after 60k subs. This was by far my favorite video though. -Metal Scar
You were my favorite channel for simpsons stuff! I'm still upset you got removed. I'll probably reupload more of your stuff later. I downloaded some of my favorite videos for a long road trip.
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They were referencing 30, 40, even 50 year old movies in a time when the Internet barely existed, and they did it with nuance. The cleverness that went into this show is unbelievable.
That's because those movies were in the cultural zeitgeist. People back then considered (many of) those movies timeless masterpieces and not "old stuff" that today would be "weird, weird".
The Simpsons was my first exposure to like 90% of these films.
Especially that car sinking in the river from It's A Mad Mad Mad World. Nobody around me knew wtf that was from, but youtube comments knew.
I can't count how many times that a scene in a movie I'm watching catches me off-guard because I suddenly recognised it from an old _Simpsons_ episode. I'm like _"Oh, NOW I get it.. ~20 years later."_ 😂
@@JohnGardnerAlhadisyes! Exactly! 😂
Best part of the Patton parody is when Abe Simpson explains to Bart how it's okay to lead them to their deaths but it's not okay to slap them.
Now apologize for that comment
When The Simpsons uses cultural references and parodies wisely and when Family Guy consists entirely of them.
Someone always comments this thinking they are having an original thought. The Simpsons haven't been remotely funny or even watchable for over 15 years while Family Guy has had plenty of hilarious bits in that time. FG is sketch comedy, which is fine. And while never as good as Simpsons at its peak, have still provided plenty of laughs.
@@DoctorJammer Family Guy is sloppy and vulgar with their jokes that they intentionally stretch them out to make the 20 minute runtime. I would take 2000-2008 Simpsons over anything Family Guy.
If you don't like it why are you talking about it ? Comparison is the thief of joy and the Simpsons is good on its own without you needing to build it up by putting something else (fg) down. Fyi
@@Former_Employee I like that, "comparison is the thief of joy," I'm going to use that.
@@DoctorJammer 15 years is generous. The Simpsons died with the 90s, and what's been around since is the zombie incarnation of it. That being said, the first 9, maybe 10, seasons of The Simpsons is probably the best thing in the history of television. Comparing FG to it is unfair.
Amazing that all these years later there are still lesser known or even obscure film references being picked up in classic Simpsons. The writers and directors on the show truly were film lovers.
They referenced iconic photography too!
The movies shown were either classics or popular in its time. If they're obscure now, it's only because time hasn't been so kind to some. But they weren't obscure when the Simpsons parodied them.
Can you explain this to me/give me any examples? Sounds cool! @@rabbidguarddog
@lifeisgood420365 in the episode where Lisa became Ms. Springfield she's standing on a box and taking an othe I wish I could tell you what photo but I can't recall. That's one example.
I just found this out, in season 13, there's a gag where Lenny had a photoshoot from Richard Avedon.
@@rabbidguarddog ah that's awesome, I'm gonna have to keep an eye out for some of these 😎👌 and thanks for the reply, I really appreciate it! ❤️
I alwayes liked how you could enjoy classic Simpsons episodes without understanding any of the movie parodies that they were doing unlike later episodes and so many other shows that were pretty much relying on the viewer knowing the reference. The references were just a little bonus but the main plot/message was and is just timeless.
17:07 one of my favourite ever simpsons moments in history. the blatant ignorance of social awareness homer has & the awesome music to go with it. awesome
Fun fact, there is a metal song based on this scene by the band Okilly Dokilly.
Seasons 1-5, when The Simpsons was the greatest tv show in history.
Facts!!!!
Unequivocally!
6-9 is full of classics as well
There are SO many Citizen Kane references, especially in early Simpsons.
In the episode with "Oh, Streetcar", Homer boredly playing with a tattered Playbill.
Mr. Burns running for Governor is FILLED with them, but I want to single out the nearly direct quote, "Is your boss Governor, yet?"
Burns trying to track down his Teddy Bear, Bobo, is filled with parallels to Rosebud.
And one of the weirdest, on the episode where the Plant goes on strike, there's a transition with a vulture that looks like Mr. Burns. A reference to the infamous "Cockatoo transition", which was basically one of the earliest jumpscares in film.
"here is the cane from citizen kane" always gets me
Interesting.
Psycho and Clock work Orange seemed to have a lot too.
Godfather legacy too, and if course 2001 Space Odyssey.
I always loved the T2.
"Hmmm, I guess he didn't see me."
Such a funny punch line to the whole bit.
"Guess Who's Coming to Criticize Dinner?" has the whole exchange between Lisa doesn't want to ghostwrite for Homer anymore is pretty much lifted from Citizen Kane, took me forever to notice it.
I'm pretty sure Citizen Kane is the reason Mr. Burns' full name is Charles Montgomery Burns, a reference to Charles Foster Kane.
5:35 Mr Bergstrom is voiced by Dustin Hoffman
lol I never realized that. I love when jokes go that deep.
I think it was the movie Airplane where a woman says "he doesn't ask for a second cup of coffee at home" and the woman saying it was the same actress from the commercial saying that exact line.
missed a few...The Fugitive, planet of the apes, The Birds (when Maggie was in daycare), more Ben Hur "you truly are the king of kings", and Rear Window (when Bart Broke his leg)
And A Streetcar Named Desire "SMITHEEERRRRRSSS!"
@@pallokko These are most new to me also never knew there was so many references
"Brace yourselves Gentlemen, according to the gas chronometer, the secret ingredient is.....Love?! WHO'S BEEN SCREWING WITH THIS?"
Omg i just noticed that screwing has a double meaning here 😂😂😂
*chromatograph
0:16 the movie parody is Patton. How you got Cool Hand Luke when it is literally the main "Patton' sound bite playing is beyond me.
11:27 i never thought of that scene that way, that why it has cherries, hahahaha
I have to also say, in the "Officer and a Gentleman" reference, kudos to the Simpsons composer for an absolute masterful soundalike for "Up Where We Belong" ...
I love that "Officer and a Gentleman" scene. So heartwarming.
I love these brillian re-contextualized references. Compare these with Family Guy that hammers you with 1:1 remakes of a scene for the sake of it.
You know, your comment reminds me of the time that I was in a bed and woke up with a horse head next to me because I turned down a request from a Mafia don ... [wavy lines]
A lot of the simpsons ones are shoehorned in for the sake of it too
@@laver94 Family sit com, but not yellow
@@laver94 Yeah, mostly in post-Golden Age seasons.
I know we're supposed to pretend it doesn't exist, but "Stark Raving Dad" had a reference to "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" with that patient that plays the chief.
I love that episode. "Whoa.... Michael Jackson...."
The Cape Fear episode is easily the best parody episode outside of The Shining :D
12:27 I never realized that Barney throwing the drinking fountain out the window was something from the actual movie and not just a gag.
So many great memories. I started watching The Simpsons when I got posted out to Hong Kong in 1993, so every one of these episodes takes me back to my time over there watching it with the lads.
"Top of the world, ma" in the GODFATHER bit is a reference-within-a-reference: Cagney in "White Heat" (1949)
Kids had no idea where that came from 11:27 but adults must have been rolling on the floor laughing
Wow, this is a phenomenal comiplation. Nice work!!!
Thank you for the compilation. I still need to check out some of these films
Thank you thank you!!!! This is years of finally getting to see what every movie actually was!!!!!! Ahhhhhh sooooo satisfying!!!!!❤
Can't believe you didn't include the Music Man homage from the "Marge vs. the Monorail" episode!!
they sure did love the graduate, the godfather and 2001 a space odyssey
Thanks for sharing!
I knew most of the movie references, but have now learned even more! 😊
Holy crap i had that flanders family car. Geo metro, three cylinder, could push seventy downhill. Wow i never realized i had that car.
It's a shame being reminded the Simpsons was good, great upload.
You can tell that Matt or someone in the writer's room was a huge Hitchcock fan. No other directors work was shown more, closest is Kubrick.
Probably Al Jean. Most of the 20+ year old movie references can be attributed to him. That’s why he was perfect to helm The Critic, cause it was nothing but movie references.
@@Rbills02 Agreed. my god i miss that series. it was ahead of its time.
This is amazing! I grew up watching the Sampson’s from the age of 8 and the majority of these references were from films I’ve only watched since being an adult… pure genius!
8:35 the song SSB sings/parodies is "Something Stupid" by Frank and Nancy Sinatra
9:15 Mandella Effect: Tom Cruise does not wear sunglasses during that particular scene.
18:33 "The Sound Of Silence" by Simon & Garfunkle
the sound of silence was used in that scene they were parodying, in case you didnt know.
@@jefverstraete8574 Yeah, but it didn't say "Hello Grandpa, my old friend", lol
When Bart said "Top of the World, Ma" in Tell-Tale Head (clipped here for the Godfather reference), that's also a movie reference: Cagney in White Heat
That DOA joke is one of my all time favorites😂
This is brilliant , A few I didn’t know as well... very well done thanks 😀
The Citizen Kane smashing things scene is hilariously bad in both. I love it.
"Take me home, Smithers. We'll destroy something tasteful."
Kind of surprised you cut off the last scene as it flows from Cat On A Hot Tin Roof to Streetcar Named Desire.
6:13 seeing Bond with Homer Simpson’s voice is too perfect 😂
Fuck ! And it’s Dan Castellaneta
At 8 seconds it should've shown Santa's little helper being brainwashed by Burns
Fantastic video! Thank you so much for creating it.
I remember in the old days of this kind of cross reference video, they would always play the clips sequentially. I guess only later on did we finally get simultaneous clips. We've come a long way since windows movie maker.
Some of these (particularly the patton one) were parodies of real life or tropes, rather than these specific movies.
Also the Charles Whitman sequence. It _might_ have been influenced in how it was presented by a TV movie based on it, but was mainly referencing the actual shooting and people's general knowledge of it. The shots don't appear to be quite close enough for me to see it as a clear visual inspiration.
@@Belgand Im not quite sure what that is and I didn't get very far into the video, so I'll just take your word for it.
2:18 😂 he's only gonna be gone for 10 minutes
The S5 E16 Terminator 2 gags were some of the most memorable!
So many 3rd walls broken, mostly from Cape Feare
What about the scene after Homer and Marge got married at that casino, Shotgun Pete's? I'm talking about the part where they're outside the Carvel store and Homer is getting the fudgy the whale cake that says "to a whale of a wife." And then the Levis truck goes by and he says "Do you think that truck is full of jeans?" I know I've seen that exact scene in a movie before. I think it might be a Sandra Bollack movie, but I'm not sure. I think it might even be from Officer and a Gentleman. But I know I've seen that exact scene in a live action movie on TV before. But I never see any references to it anywhere, not even on the Simpsons wiki or anything.
S4E2 also has a reference to the ending of The Birds.
PhD quality work; thanks for sharing.
You ended on the Cat on a Hot Tin Roof reference but ignored the Streetcar Named Desire reference it led into.
So So Good. I can't even pick the best one.
Could've sworn there was a reference to A Nightmare on Elm Street around this period.
Tree House of Horror Where Willie got tired of being killed so does the killing.
Flanders was using his hand razor glove in the topiary scene that here is only tagged as Edward Scissorhands.
I've never seen Thelma and Louise before but Marge on the Lam is still one of my favorite episodes
Loved Lionel
I knew they made a lot of references. Never realised they were quite this literal.
Great job!
there need to be a Kubrick compilation
They reference A Clockwork Orange numerous times.
My film studies lecturer would talk about classic movies and, if someone didn't know which one he meant, he'd say "remember that Simpsons episode where...."
The one i remember most was Rear Window, which wasn't in this list, now i think about it.
Your teacher really has it together.
0:17 There is a more exact reference to that movie; when Skinner re joins the army.
I would have loved this in college, I had to take a film class for English and recognized all the old films 😊 Just needs some Deniro, Goodfellas, Apocalypse Now, Sergio Leone, Arthur Minelli, etc. and it'd cover most of the syllabus
11:19 I see someone doesn’t want to get sued
The Simpsons is the best at referencing other media.
I was surprised at how many of those I knew, even some references from movies I hadn't actually seen.
The Simpson scriptwiters were part of Hollywood and they perfectly know tv series and movies to obtain the ideas of the scripts.
Most of them in the early years were Harvard Graduates. Many had written for the Harvard Lampoon. Al Jean, Mike Reiss, Conan O’Brien, Jon Vitti, Jeff Martin, George Meyer, Nell Scovell. All Harvard boys.
The references made really show that you need encyclopedic level of film knowledge. Beyond that, the examples here are specifically about iconic cinematography than references while also twisting them to be their own thing.
I refuse to believe that Simpsons today somehow forgot how to do this, or that no other show before or after it mastered the craft, but consider this. Simpsons did it in such a way that anything else following format feels like a cheap imitation. Maybe we should be thankful for how Family Guy instead relies heavily on cutaway gags for references. What Simpsons has here is beautiful, no other word for it, and demonstrated to me what cinema is about more than any other movie, sitcom, game, reference or what have you ever hoped to tell me.
Pop cultural references are not a sin. You don't have to make them alienating when you don't know the source (see Family Guy). Simpsons use it to convey their story/jokes. I wonder if that's the only way you can pump in so many at once, cause the other ways I know feel too distracting (plus, you know, Simpsons does those too)
10:09 this one is particularly funny now cuz The Simpsons are owned by Disney now.
Unlike most of their IPs, _The Simpsons_ went to shit *before* it fell into Disney's franchise-ruining mitts.
That's good work Lou
0:08 I don't get how this is a reference to Alex's conditioning scene in Clockwork Orange. The setup is completely different. An actual Simpsons reference to that in scene Clockwork Orange is at 8:15, from Dog of Death when Santa's Little Helper is going through Mr Burns' training program.
Good call, I'm not seeing the reference either.
8:29 Frank and Nancy Sinatra - Saying Something Stupid
Well kids, now you know the cool movies you need to see. (Except for "Prince of Tides", wtf Simpsons writers, lol)
Man alive!!! There are men alive…in here
Wow so AUTHENTIC 😳
I forgot Burns used to have loud angry voice.
My Dinner With Ande 2k24
And it cuts right before the “Street car named desire” reference 😂
i didn't know they referenced this many movies
Brilliant although I wish they could've snuck in the later episode which parodies the final scene of the Godfather.
Just how much of citizen Kane can you recreate using exclusively Simpsons footage?
Extoplasmer best parodies
Creativity we thought omages they were only
I knew some of these references. I did not know most of them.
Indiana Jones reference most hilarious one!
Awww I thought I was gonna see Christine (1983) for S3E18 (Separate Vocations). SuperB list, though.
The shock chair thing isn't really from A Clockwork Orange. The two scenes aren't the same. In the show, the whole family is wired into a device enabling them to shock each other. In A Clockwork Orange, Alex is strapped into a device that forces his eyes open so he can watch conditioning footage. They really aren't the same at all.
Three Men and a Comic Book is based almost completely on The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, and the scene where Bart is holding onto Milhouse by the sleeve could come from a dozen movies with a similar setup. Not sure how you landed on Saboteur.
Pretty sure the Beverly Hillbillies reference is to the TV show, not the weird 1993 movie.
I cant believe simpsons predicted all this 😮
6:03 Fun fact: Lisa is here due at fact the movie have a protagonist with family name of Smith like her voice actor have the same name
A clockwork orange reference is in the episode where Mr Burns had Santas little Helper brainwashed into being a trained killer like Alex was forced to watch violence. Not the Family shock therapy episode.
THANK you. That was really bugging me.
I feel like the family shock therapy is referencing another work but it's not that one.
0:16 its not Patton soundtrack?
What about the one when Lisa is playing the jug when her saxophone got stolen. Could that be a reference to Aguirre, the Wrath of God?
SMIIITHHHHEEEERRRRRRS!
That last one was just 😂😅
Algunas escenas son muy reconocibles por lo icónica.
Los Simpson eran geniales.
9:51
to add to the risky business conspiracy. 9"58 why is homer wearing glasses when tom cruise did not wear glasses?
No A Streetcar Named Desire at the end?
16:38 error scene is Apollo 13 No.. ! The Roght Stuf
some of these seem like a huge reach to say that are parodies of specific movies. some of them just don't seem to fit even with a huge reach.
Oh damn I thought we were getting some gayness in the officer and gentleman one til she turned around
Trab pu kcip is from Watcher in the Woods not The Shining.
I'll be the judge of this 😅