Some details on how to correctly apply a full nelson, escape strategies, and problems with escapes that are commonly taught. To view the complete download, please visit: combatprofesso...
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Kevin is the definition of real modern systema. I basically think Kevin is my teacher online. Systema is really good for daily exercises of spirit mind and body.
6.7 230lbs built like a lumber jack what are you going to do when be grabs you? as a former bouncer I have had this experiance, and things happen so fast you don't have time for any of that. reach up and grab a finger, doesn't take much thought and works every time.
@@dabunnyrabbit2620 I found gross motor easier. Again finger is possible but if he’s cranking the neck forward it’s tough to reach up . This variation is my first goal-step out and acquire base the there are more options like hits and fingers. I worked the door as well and found small joint very tough and I’ve trained jujitsu for 40 years. Fingers are good but for me they are more specialized -what traditionally would be termed a trick rather than a strategy. Protecting the spine and getting your base is always my first priority .
You''ll feel a huge difference. This was a major tool for me when I bounced. It really allows you to put a powerful crank on a subject and makes it much harder to escape.
I actually used this once to restrain my autistic cousin who was trying to break my bathroom window. I learned it from watching WWE. I knew it as the "Master Lock" back then.
Awsome ecapes. I know of one more. You are locked in a full nelson and you elbow down on his arms around his bicebs/elbows area (roughly) like you showed here and lower your self a bit on purpose and push a little. Immediately after make your self as tall as you can and stretch both of your arms strait up in the air and sit strait down on your buttocks on the floor while your arms stay up durring the sit down. At this point you are allready free. You can do followups from there. The downward double elbowstrike on each of his arms is NOT meant to break the grib behind your neck. It's to loosen it and make him try to adjust uppwards towards his grib as a help to your next move + it's also a distraction when you raise yourself up to your tallest point after the strikes. This looks like you are going to strike again with a bigger move, but this time you drop strait down between his arms like a snake while simultaniously both of your arms is up in the air. Perhaps lift his elows a little with your shoulders too to make more space on the raise. You often end up sitting down on the floor between his feet or on his feet. You can grab to pin both of his feet/heals on the ground around outside of his legs and push backwards with your back/shoulders on one or both of his knees and he will fall on his buttocks as well. From here, turn around and strike his groin and climb over his guard or get away fx. Lot's of options from there of your choice. We went for the crouch then stomach and then face in a rather specefic combo type thing in our training. This was tricky to describe so I hope it makes sense :D.
Words With Meaning I know that one . It gets a bit tough if you cranked asymmetrically to raise the arms up without making it work. There are a lot of variations that can work though including what you described as well as hip throws, front rolls etc. Those are just too dangerous for youtube
@@systemacanada Sure. I think I like yours better. It's seems more controlled and safe, with a lower risk of failure as well. I liked to use the side stepping one too, but I used to just turn my torso towards the opponent a little after stepping behind his leg. He simply falls backwards over it and a little to tge side. If you are quick he may still have a hand grabbing your on the hip. Simply grab as and twist it clockwise with a 4'th to a halfmoon step in the same direction and he may tap out. I dont think I can explain that one on text. Not sure if after the small turn on the takedown when the opponent let's go of me willingly bc it's nice compliance for the training or if it was the same fall flinch every time that made him let go for the falling. Other than that it seemed to work, but I could easily be about that. I mean what do you think?
I've seen that in some systema video a long time ago and though it seems technically possible I wouldn't wanna fall with my back to the opponent plus falling on your butt on concrete seems painful right?
Bill Tsepenekas the pistol is less of a fall and more of a squat drop . I cover it in detail in our throws download . I’ve done it thousands of times if not hundreds of thousands on every type of surface. It’s soft for the thrower but terrible for the projected. I get the reluctance to give your back but if you’re in a full Nelson you r already made that mistake. You’ll see lots of other ideas like stomping feet and hitting hands but if you have a strong grappler cranking you in this, that’s pretty unlikely in my experience. It’s your life in the end. Train it as well as you can. Find honest and capable attackers and see what you can pull of. If you feel safer with your alternative go bravely forward and consider this part of your training resolved
Maybe a stupid question, but when is this technique ever used? I´ve never, ever seen it in any real-life fight. People usually just strike someone from behind or apply a choke. In rare cases, they hug you while your arms are still down. Heck, I´ve seen more real-life German suplex in street fights than Nelsons (most didn´t look pretty, but surprisingly some of them were at least very effective). The only scenario I could think of is a bouncer trying to strongarm someone out, but even then I doubt that this is the best choice, though I have not much of an idea how bouncers operate...
edi it’s a pretty common restraint. I definitely used this in bouncing and half and hook variations but even in high school fights it’s a common way to hold someone for someone to hit. Also a. I’m mom cheese grater on the ground to drive your face into the ground. With a half Nelson you can punch with the free hand as well. I guess you didn’t have a wrestling team at your high school lol
@@systemacanada we had no clubs whatsoever. It still surprises me that you say it's frequent, as I've never seen it in any real-life footage. But thanks for the explanation.
I think the second one is better . The danger with forward rolling variations is that they are assuming you neck is not being cranked. If you’re all the way forward and the attacker is steering your head it’s pretty easy to guide the subjects head into the planet. That’s why I prioritize backward drops. If you are going forward it’s a secondary choice . The minute you get out, drive your hips to the sky to keep pressure on the subject. It limits their movement. It makes it harder for them to get hooks in. It plays with their breathing. Always assume the attacker is a good grappler and stronger than you. They won’t let go that easily and they will try to snap your neck.
Finger grabs are possible but tough to catch. Most people muscle a Nelson rather than trying to crank the neck which is what a Nelson is intended to do. Next to the rear choke it was the most common move people would use in pile ons when I worked the door. I always found dropping to the ground or smashing them into walls or furniture was the easiest release
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Thank you. Thanks for watching.
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Kevin is the definition of real modern systema. I basically think Kevin is my teacher online. Systema is really good for daily exercises of spirit mind and body.
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6.7 230lbs built like a lumber jack what are you going to do when be grabs you?
as a former bouncer I have had this experiance, and things happen so fast you don't have time for any of that.
reach up and grab a finger, doesn't take much thought and works every time.
@@dabunnyrabbit2620 I found gross motor easier. Again finger is possible but if he’s cranking the neck forward it’s tough to reach up . This variation is my first goal-step out and acquire base the there are more options like hits and fingers. I worked the door as well and found small joint very tough and I’ve trained jujitsu for 40 years. Fingers are good but for me they are more specialized -what traditionally would be termed a trick rather than a strategy. Protecting the spine and getting your base is always my first priority .
that is such an interesting escape and counter to the full nelson. i am so swoon. 😆
Thank you for the video. It is the first time I have seen how to do Full Nelson right. 👍
You''ll feel a huge difference. This was a major tool for me when I bounced. It really allows you to put a powerful crank on a subject and makes it much harder to escape.
I actually used this once to restrain my autistic cousin who was trying to break my bathroom window. I learned it from watching WWE. I knew it as the "Master Lock" back then.
Bruh me to when i was a kid we did the master lock challenge to see who could break out of it we were dumbass kids 😂😂😂
Nice. 4:35 👍🙂
If you have large strong Lats from body building you can flex your lats and break the full Nelson lock.
Could you do a video on how to escape a rear bear hug with the arms trapped and with the arms free?
Awsome ecapes. I know of one more. You are locked in a full nelson and you elbow down on his arms around his bicebs/elbows area (roughly) like you showed here and lower your self a bit on purpose and push a little. Immediately after make your self as tall as you can and stretch both of your arms strait up in the air and sit strait down on your buttocks on the floor while your arms stay up durring the sit down. At this point you are allready free. You can do followups from there.
The downward double elbowstrike on each of his arms is NOT meant to break the grib behind your neck. It's to loosen it and make him try to adjust uppwards towards his grib as a help to your next move + it's also a distraction when you raise yourself up to your tallest point after the strikes. This looks like you are going to strike again with a bigger move, but this time you drop strait down between his arms like a snake while simultaniously both of your arms is up in the air. Perhaps lift his elows a little with your shoulders too to make more space on the raise.
You often end up sitting down on the floor between his feet or on his feet. You can grab to pin both of his feet/heals on the ground around outside of his legs and push backwards with your back/shoulders on one or both of his knees and he will fall on his buttocks as well. From here, turn around and strike his groin and climb over his guard or get away fx. Lot's of options from there of your choice.
We went for the crouch then stomach and then face in a rather specefic combo type thing in our training.
This was tricky to describe so I hope it makes sense :D.
Words With Meaning I know that one . It gets a bit tough if you cranked asymmetrically to raise the arms up without making it work. There are a lot of variations that can work though including what you described as well as hip throws, front rolls etc. Those are just too dangerous for youtube
@@systemacanada Sure. I think I like yours better. It's seems more controlled and safe, with a lower risk of failure as well.
I liked to use the side stepping one too, but I used to just turn my torso towards the opponent a little after stepping behind his leg. He simply falls backwards over it and a little to tge side. If you are quick he may still have a hand grabbing your on the hip. Simply grab as and twist it clockwise with a 4'th to a halfmoon step in the same direction and he may tap out. I dont think I can explain that one on text. Not sure if after the small turn on the takedown when the opponent let's go of me willingly bc it's nice compliance for the training or if it was the same fall flinch every time that made him let go for the falling. Other than that it seemed to work, but I could easily be about that.
I mean what do you think?
I've seen that in some systema video a long time ago and though it seems technically possible I wouldn't wanna fall with my back to the opponent plus falling on your butt on concrete seems painful right?
Words With Meaning sounds workable
Bill Tsepenekas the pistol is less of a fall and more of a squat drop . I cover it in detail in our throws download . I’ve done it thousands of times if not hundreds of thousands on every type of surface. It’s soft for the thrower but terrible for the projected. I get the reluctance to give your back but if you’re in a full Nelson you r already made that mistake. You’ll see lots of other ideas like stomping feet and hitting hands but if you have a strong grappler cranking you in this, that’s pretty unlikely in my experience. It’s your life in the end. Train it as well as you can. Find honest and capable attackers and see what you can pull of. If you feel safer with your alternative go bravely forward and consider this part of your training resolved
Will you show us how to escape someone pushing you against the wall? I´d be looking forward to this.
edi absorbing impact here m.czcams.com/video/-L6bb1pS3N4/video.html
edi striking out here. The principle doesn’t change if you are being push. You always want to corner czcams.com/video/ny0UFnXi2aA/video.html
And you might enjoy this czcams.com/video/4SOCYVG5PY8/video.html
@@systemacanada thank you very much!
This Nelson does not end with a "Haha!" for them.
Maybe a stupid question, but when is this technique ever used? I´ve never, ever seen it in any real-life fight. People usually just strike someone from behind or apply a choke. In rare cases, they hug you while your arms are still down. Heck, I´ve seen more real-life German suplex in street fights than Nelsons (most didn´t look pretty, but surprisingly some of them were at least very effective).
The only scenario I could think of is a bouncer trying to strongarm someone out, but even then I doubt that this is the best choice, though I have not much of an idea how bouncers operate...
edi it’s a pretty common restraint. I definitely used this in bouncing and half and hook variations but even in high school fights it’s a common way to hold someone for someone to hit. Also a. I’m mom cheese grater on the ground to drive your face into the ground. With a half Nelson you can punch with the free hand as well. I guess you didn’t have a wrestling team at your high school lol
@@systemacanada we had no clubs whatsoever. It still surprises me that you say it's frequent, as I've never seen it in any real-life footage. But thanks for the explanation.
edi check it out on CZcams. Very very common .
Would this escape work: czcams.com/video/H91WduweXcM/video.html
Or this one(starts at 3:13): czcams.com/video/vfMHgEODn6k/video.html
I think the second one is better . The danger with forward rolling variations is that they are assuming you neck is not being cranked. If you’re all the way forward and the attacker is steering your head it’s pretty easy to guide the subjects head into the planet. That’s why I prioritize backward drops. If you are going forward it’s a secondary choice . The minute you get out, drive your hips to the sky to keep pressure on the subject. It limits their movement. It makes it harder for them to get hooks in. It plays with their breathing. Always assume the attacker is a good grappler and stronger than you. They won’t let go that easily and they will try to snap your neck.
@@systemacanada Thanks.
@@Alex00789 my pleasure.
or you could reach up and grab a finger.
works every time.
when something really happens all this bs will go right out the window.
Finger grabs are possible but tough to catch. Most people muscle a Nelson rather than trying to crank the neck which is what a Nelson is intended to do. Next to the rear choke it was the most common move people would use in pile ons when I worked the door. I always found dropping to the ground or smashing them into walls or furniture was the easiest release