“It sucks at doing barrel rolls and its water takeoff performance is poor.” I can’t think of a single video you’ve done where I haven’t laughed out loud at least once. Well done! 😂
Even with that complexity, the low fuel burn seems to make those diamond twins a perfect choice for flight schools... And half the fuel burn to an Aztec and a Baron will probably make someone feel less guilty to the enviroment. And comparing to getting training in an Aztec, I'd prefer do it in a DA42. when i did my multi-ifr, I choiced a flight school 100km away and paid 100/h more just because they've got some shiny new diamonds, unlike my local flight schools all using banged up aztec and seminoles.
Yup, I've seen many people suggest that Diamond was probably targeting flight schools with their planes, because despite the sticker cost, the savings over many hours of flight in a year is going to be a lot higher burning Jet A. One of the downsides to learning on a DA62, so I've heard, is because you lack mixture and prop control, you aren't getting that learning into your curriculum if you ever do go and fly a plane that does have them. However, I've heard its a relatively small downside overcame by transition training.
@@Orzorn In Europe and many other part of the world, flight school graduates goes straight onto a jet, it’s meaningless for them to learn mixture and prop control. Those places also have less avgas available and significant price difference between jet fuel and avgas.
@@Orzorn if i'm not mistaken da 42s do have the rpm lever, but as someone else said, in europe most students will go from those da 42 straight into an airliner so it doesn't really matter
@pietrooliani3251 it depends which engine you get. You can have DA42s with the Lycoming which comes with prop/mixture levers, or you can get the Austro engines which have FADEC so only have Throttle. DA40 have the same options. But the DA62 only have the Austro choice. I did AMEL in the 42 with Austro engines and they were such fun planes to fly in, but maintainance is dificult.
CZcams had recommended that Paul Bertorelli video on avgas because i love these so much, so thank you for a) having such fun videos, and b) being an entry point into other GA education.
@@CompleteWalkaround for some reason I figured it to be about a $400-450 an hour airplane, not quite the turboprop costs. Still love it though, thank for this one!
Please keep up the excellent work, and next time you have to bleep yourself, please tell us what’s in the bottle you’re enjoying, and use that same bottle (or an older version!) for the next. I’m dead serious-I’ve fallen off the horse on my channel, and need some inspiration. That plus the vintage checklist for a certain 65-HP vintage taildragger I just bought might be enough!
When you said that it was costing 300.000~550.000 to buy one of those I was like: "Where did you find them, cause I wanna one right now LOL"😂 But except for that, as always it was a awesome video, and I would like to see a video about diamond DA50
I will note that some people have issues with the gearboxes, and there's a timing chain issue if you windmill start the engines. I think that pilot behavior influences these, but they are quite expensive if you run into it, adding many tens of dollars per hour to the maintenance budget.
It's a lot more fun than a twin (or single) turboprop ! It's still a small plane when it comes to flying. Also, to me pressurization is actually a downside because you get small windows, especially for the back rows. It's not longer a fun flying experience and it becomes a travel in some interior (which can be pleasant but that you can get much much cheaper with other means of transportation).
Can be very affordable to fly in a pressurized aircraft but every time I do, I have to put up with TSA screening & follow the schedules that the airlines have already decided upon. It's not the only way I personally have traveled by air, but close to it.
IF you ever own and fly a pressurized aircraft you'll never go back. 340A costs about the same to fly, but I can go farther, faster, and higher. Plus no headaches or other altitude issues.
Hi! Good question. 58 Barons come in many flavors. New and old. A huge part of the da26 cost is insurance and hangar. An older 58 baron could cost 1/4 of what a da62 would cost to buy and insurance would be reduced by a similar ratio. Baron fits in a t-hangar. Older barons have no deice, no AC, basically less of everything. Less to maintain. New barons have similar systems as a da62 and only slightly less expensive to buy/insure. TC cost more to maintain than naturally aspirated barons and P barons cost more than TC. Generally big bucks across the board. Thanks for watching
@@CompleteWalkaround wow thanks for sitting down to write all that! love the channel! i hope to see the piper seneca sometime! love all the three row piston twins!
Great work! Also I can tell you copied and pasted the description from your last video. I don't blame you! Just next time make sure you remember to change the plane name haha. Keep it up!
@@CompleteWalkaround No worries! Also had a question. At the start you say it's a piston twin, but at 1:49 you say "jet fuel", is this a mistake or am I just too dense? Also these can run on mogas as well right?
Agree, I actually own a 2020 that I paid $1.4 for and have been offered $1.7+....yes, it is the covid effect but there is absonlutely a 1 missing from the front of that number. Great airplane and his assesment of King Airs and Jets is spot on. I'm a low time pilot 250 hours last year when I renewed my insurance and it was $27k for the year. Can't imagine what a C90 or older jet would be.
@@brettswanson4452 wow!! Thanks so much for this reply - I really appreciate the insurance information. Real figure is great to have. I have 650hrs, 400 in a SR22 and was wondering what to expect if I wanted to upgrade in a few years. Congrats on that beautiful plane - while I cannot complain with a SR22, I might have a bit of envy ;) Fly safe
Hi, Thanks for the info guys. Yes, I made a blunder in the purchase price. I added a correction to the description but sadly not easy to see especially on mobile. Dang
@@CompleteWalkaroundI get it haha. I really just wanted to add a comment so your videos get shown to more people and I figured if someone happened to not know it would put them in a better ballpark.
Now convert all those numbers into Australian Dollar and then multiple them by 2, because of "Australia Tax" (look it up, it's a thing) - and the US viewers will choke on their beers while watching this video. See also: Australian GA is dead. RIP.
Insurance can be significantly more. For 3 fairly low-time pilots all w/ IFR ratings insurance is roughly 40k for year 1. Not "times that". Should be "Multiplied."
The “boring as f#%k” caught me completely offguard and got a proper belly laugh. My favourite part though might be Paul Bertorelli popping up!
SAME!!
That's what she said
+1 for the Bertorelli drawing that captures his unique crankiness.
its a cartoon filter not an anti-cranky filter
Ha!
“It sucks at doing barrel rolls and its water takeoff performance is poor.” I can’t think of a single video you’ve done where I haven’t laughed out loud at least once. Well done! 😂
It's definitely a fun plane to fly in MSFS. And that's probably the only way I'll be flying one of these 😅
Same 😔
Though I have hopes I'll be able to buy and maintain, say, a Cessna 172
DItto. Nope, still haven't won. So will remain "ditto". 😭
That Paul illustration was a highlight of an amazing video!
Even with that complexity, the low fuel burn seems to make those diamond twins a perfect choice for flight schools... And half the fuel burn to an Aztec and a Baron will probably make someone feel less guilty to the enviroment.
And comparing to getting training in an Aztec, I'd prefer do it in a DA42. when i did my multi-ifr, I choiced a flight school 100km away and paid 100/h more just because they've got some shiny new diamonds, unlike my local flight schools all using banged up aztec and seminoles.
Nice, that's commitment!
Yup, I've seen many people suggest that Diamond was probably targeting flight schools with their planes, because despite the sticker cost, the savings over many hours of flight in a year is going to be a lot higher burning Jet A.
One of the downsides to learning on a DA62, so I've heard, is because you lack mixture and prop control, you aren't getting that learning into your curriculum if you ever do go and fly a plane that does have them. However, I've heard its a relatively small downside overcame by transition training.
@@Orzorn In Europe and many other part of the world, flight school graduates goes straight onto a jet, it’s meaningless for them to learn mixture and prop control. Those places also have less avgas available and significant price difference between jet fuel and avgas.
@@Orzorn if i'm not mistaken da 42s do have the rpm lever, but as someone else said, in europe most students will go from those da 42 straight into an airliner so it doesn't really matter
@pietrooliani3251 it depends which engine you get. You can have DA42s with the Lycoming which comes with prop/mixture levers, or you can get the Austro engines which have FADEC so only have Throttle. DA40 have the same options. But the DA62 only have the Austro choice. I did AMEL in the 42 with Austro engines and they were such fun planes to fly in, but maintainance is dificult.
I laughed out loud at the Paul Bertorelli animation. Nice work!
I've been waiting for this! I love it :D
Gotta love the narration on these!! Btw, you captured Paul Bertorelli's excited look beautifully. And 0:57, lol
CZcams had recommended that Paul Bertorelli video on avgas because i love these so much, so thank you for a) having such fun videos, and b) being an entry point into other GA education.
that was a beautiful picture of Paul. I like how you captured his eyes. Nailed it
Pure Gold. Keep it coming
Best video yet! Keep it up!
Loved this one! You should do one on the Beech Sundowner or Sierra!
Best video yet. Can’t wait til Paul sees this.
I love these videos.
That PB illustration practically screams "I'm Paul Bertorelli, thanks for watching. Oh, and (random snarky quip/dad joke about whatever)"
Another great video 👍😎
Awesome you gave Paul a shoutout!!
“That’s what she said!” 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Well played, between the AF, that’s what she said, and Paul B. comments, you nailed this one!
Yes! Was looking forward to this one! Not that I could afford one…
That drawing of Paul Bertorelli's, dang!
It’s here, this is the one I’ve been hoping for!
And bloody hell the operating costs were not what I anticipated
Hopefully less than expected!
@@CompleteWalkaround for some reason I figured it to be about a $400-450 an hour airplane, not quite the turboprop costs. Still love it though, thank for this one!
This video is your magnum opus so far. LOL thank you much for the content
I agree. Best yet :)
it takes a lot to actually make me laugh out loud but you did it twice here!
Low wing together with engines takes a lot of the beautiful view down there.
If I could afford, I would go for Tecanm high wing twin.
Would love to see a colab between you and AvWebs's Paul Bertarelli!!
The drawing of a Grumman GA7 at 0:50 has my hopes up for a future video.
This seems ideal for a premium air taxi business if you finance it. Also pls do sonex subsonex if possible
That Paul art is perfect lmao
Did you mean to do 300-550? I don’t think I’ve seen a da 62 for under a million since their inception
That's a typo. My mistake
Was wondering the same thing lol
@@CompleteWalkaround no worries just wanted to make sure you saw it🤙🏼
@@CompleteWalkaround I wanted to buy one recently, so when I saw 300-550 I choked on my tea. I wish they were so affordable.
Sadly no. I hope I didn’t get your hopes up to bad 😢
I've always wanted a DA-42.
My dream plane
You’re getting very funny! 😄Disco Bob would be proud.
Hey, Thanks Tom, That is a very big compliment in my books 😃
Please keep up the excellent work, and next time you have to bleep yourself, please tell us what’s in the bottle you’re enjoying, and use that same bottle (or an older version!) for the next. I’m dead serious-I’ve fallen off the horse on my channel, and need some inspiration. That plus the vintage checklist for a certain 65-HP vintage taildragger I just bought might be enough!
Rum. It's always rum :) And thank you and congrats on the new plane
I have the doodad multi rating because I couldn't learn to start a KingAir
😂😂😂 that boring as f&$@ caught me off guard. Love it!
When you said that it was costing 300.000~550.000 to buy one of those I was like: "Where did you find them, cause I wanna one right now LOL"😂
But except for that, as always it was a awesome video, and I would like to see a video about diamond DA50
I asked the same question - no joke, I’m actually curious if there is a $1million missing in front of those numbers
Yes, one on the DA50RG please ! It's a gorgeous aircraft and has incredible specs
New best line in the series: "that's what she said." Best word so far: Squillion.
puaggio avanti or PC 12 for this money ?
One of those flew over my house today
Can you do the da50 rg?
Can you make a video about a hot air balloon?
so sad that it not come with pressurized cabin, at the first glance i definitely said "i want that thing, it look cool af"
Please do a show on the diamond 42 V1. Great episodes, thanks!
I did the original da42 twinstar which is a lemon compared to the IV. I'll get to that one though
please make one on diamond dart!! 😃
another one for the algorithm ;)
I will note that some people have issues with the gearboxes, and there's a timing chain issue if you windmill start the engines. I think that pilot behavior influences these, but they are quite expensive if you run into it, adding many tens of dollars per hour to the maintenance budget.
I work on these, and while they aren’t lemons, I feel they advertise the fuel savings so much and never mention maintenance costs.
Keep it up
Ok, is it 1 mil or 2 mil for one of these? some many different price being thrown around?!
Looks like the producers are taking this show pg13 to improve ratings lol. Great video, I enjoyed all the spunk in this one.
AeroCommander series please?
You should do the DR400!
The only thing I have a problem with is it isn't a pressurized cabin
"But it doesn't, so I don't."
😂😂😂
It's a lot more fun than a twin (or single) turboprop ! It's still a small plane when it comes to flying.
Also, to me pressurization is actually a downside because you get small windows, especially for the back rows. It's not longer a fun flying experience and it becomes a travel in some interior (which can be pleasant but that you can get much much cheaper with other means of transportation).
Can be very affordable to fly in a pressurized aircraft but every time I do, I have to put up with TSA screening & follow the schedules that the airlines have already decided upon.
It's not the only way I personally have traveled by air, but close to it.
IF you ever own and fly a pressurized aircraft you'll never go back.
340A costs about the same to fly, but I can go farther, faster, and higher. Plus no headaches or other altitude issues.
Wow
Piper Colt, please!
Huh cool
Doctor says I only have a month to live and my dying wish is the Velocity TXL video
This one is saucy
Need to update that description! It's not a Timber Tiger.
Love your videos!
One thousand likes for mentioning the god himself, Paul
Does the 58 baron cost more or less to own than a DA62?
@Mike Kabakov More?? gosh. the baron is so expensive.
@Mike Kabakov Do you think a 58P or 58TC costs more to own than a standard 58?
Hi! Good question. 58 Barons come in many flavors. New and old. A huge part of the da26 cost is insurance and hangar. An older 58 baron could cost 1/4 of what a da62 would cost to buy and insurance would be reduced by a similar ratio. Baron fits in a t-hangar. Older barons have no deice, no AC, basically less of everything. Less to maintain. New barons have similar systems as a da62 and only slightly less expensive to buy/insure. TC cost more to maintain than naturally aspirated barons and P barons cost more than TC. Generally big bucks across the board. Thanks for watching
@@CompleteWalkaround wow thanks for sitting down to write all that! love the channel! i hope to see the piper seneca sometime! love all the three row piston twins!
Whispers: "That's what she said..."
Best piston twin is the Beech 18... fight me! Barrel rolls, check. Water landings, check! Bam!
Bam indeed
@@CompleteWalkaround especially the AT-11 Kansan
01:55 BARF 😂
The only thing I don't like about this is the asymmetrical engine nacelles.
Can you imagine a FADEC...JetA burning Cirrus SR22NG 🙂?
Yes exactly. I wonder if cirrus is working on that. Seems like the natural next step
Hahah epic
The voice sounds like Jerry rig everything
Great work! Also I can tell you copied and pasted the description from your last video. I don't blame you! Just next time make sure you remember to change the plane name haha. Keep it up!
Doh, thanks for the tip
@@CompleteWalkaround No worries! Also had a question. At the start you say it's a piston twin, but at 1:49 you say "jet fuel", is this a mistake or am I just too dense? Also these can run on mogas as well right?
@@emrebaskocak it’s a piston that runs on Jet A. Jet A and diesel are virtually identical, and the Diamond’s engines are Diesel engines.
@@emrebaskocak it's a piston engine that runs on jet fuel, the engines are modified Mercedes diesel engines.
It’s a fun airplane to fly when you don’t have to pay it’s bills!
One Meelion Dollars!
That's exactly how I wrote it down in my notes lol
Did you mean $1,330,000 - 1,550,000? Video has the $1m missing
Agree, I actually own a 2020 that I paid $1.4 for and have been offered $1.7+....yes, it is the covid effect but there is absonlutely a 1 missing from the front of that number. Great airplane and his assesment of King Airs and Jets is spot on. I'm a low time pilot 250 hours last year when I renewed my insurance and it was $27k for the year. Can't imagine what a C90 or older jet would be.
@@brettswanson4452 wow!! Thanks so much for this reply - I really appreciate the insurance information. Real figure is great to have. I have 650hrs, 400 in a SR22 and was wondering what to expect if I wanted to upgrade in a few years. Congrats on that beautiful plane - while I cannot complain with a SR22, I might have a bit of envy ;) Fly safe
Hi, Thanks for the info guys. Yes, I made a blunder in the purchase price. I added a correction to the description but sadly not easy to see especially on mobile. Dang
Purchase price within the video does not match your narrative.
That's a type. My mistake.
@@CompleteWalkaround Well stated 😉. Thanks for all the great content. I look forward to every Sunday morning to see these.
lose an engine in a 62 you’re still climbing at 700fpm on takeoff, lose one in a seneca you’re doing down buddy😭
Water performance is poor...rofl
Add a 1 in front of those purchase prices 😂
I tried highlighting that typo in the description. Not many options to change videos once their uploaded sadly.
@@CompleteWalkaroundI get it haha. I really just wanted to add a comment so your videos get shown to more people and I figured if someone happened to not know it would put them in a better ballpark.
@@JonathanGurgul Feeding the algorithm is always appreciated 🤖
When I first saw the 300K as the low end I thought I was having an aneurysm.
I'm not seeing any DA-62s for 300-500k. Try $1.3-1.5 million?
Wow PG-13 for this one! I like it LOL!!
Now convert all those numbers into Australian Dollar and then multiple them by 2, because of "Australia Tax" (look it up, it's a thing) - and the US viewers will choke on their beers while watching this video. See also: Australian GA is dead. RIP.
** groans in Canadian **
Insurance can be significantly more. For 3 fairly low-time pilots all w/ IFR ratings insurance is roughly 40k for year 1. Not "times that". Should be "Multiplied."
The more ya fly, the less you'll cry ...per hour.
good luck getting one for 300 k lol
LMAO, "water takeoff performance is poor"
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