I am new to the hobby. I have 5 locomotives including 2 Atlas Gold DCC switchers. One didn't work well right out of the box. Spoke to a guy at Atlas who was very informative and friendly. He said try cleaning it before sending it in. I had less than 1 hour on this locomotive. I have a big packet of cleanroom wipes (non shedding). Put some alcohol on and did the classic put on set of wheels on the track and the other on the alcohol wetted wipes. Switcher works great now. Atlas guy explained that the locomotives get tested but not always cleaned before being boxed and shipped. Thanks for the review, I may pick up one of these Roto Cleaners for my freight cars.
Great review! I just purchased the rail cleaning system from Woodland Scenics and it also works very well. I have been wondering if this system really worked, now I know thanks for the review. I will be purchasing this very soon.
Weathering takes time, patience, skill and artistic talent. I have none of those. Plus, unless you're really good...I mean REALLY good...it kills the value of your locos and rolling stock. I like to try to keep value as much as I can so that if I want to sell them one day or sell them for bigger and better stuff I can without losing too much value in the process.
Your reviews are superb ! Well balanced, fair and honestly delivered. While I'm not one to create work for someone else to fulfill but keep 'em coming. Thanks !
These work good and better that using towels over the track. I use a pipette to apply cleaning alcohol and that works well. They need to make a longer version for 4-8-8-4 locos. Or perhaps custom make your own.
Great Videos You would not need this thing. If you kept your railheads clean, dust and grease settles on the rails when nobody is in the room. When there are bodies in the room this gets moved and floats in the air. All you need is a cloth and wipe the railheads, before you start an operating system. Garf1437 England
Did you say you're contemplating converting to N scale? DO IT! I converted in 2006. I used to be a frustrated HO scaler, depressed that my layout curve radius was too small to run the locos and rolling stock I wanted. In N scale, even 18" radius is acceptable. I can run any rolling stock now, and run longer trains too! I'm much happier in N, and the quality of N scale trains today is almost equivalent to HO a few years ago.
How about giving us a close up off how the locomotive gets electricity. I’m thinking there is a rail there with the felt pad beside it. So if it’s using code 83 track, then not all on the wheel is getting cleaned. They should switch to a non- rail system with steel wool cleaner. With way all the wheel tread is cleaned. Where is the close-up of the wheels on the pads.
You are correct, I have one and not all the wheel gets cleaned. I used this, then ran a loco over a paper towel with lacquer thinner, tons of black stuff still came off the wheels. Total ripoff
i use a chemical to clean my wheels and rails, its called rail zip, the wheels transfer it to all rails and keep them nice and clean. this seems to be time consuming for over 500 locomotives, and over 3000 railcars
Why cannot the tiny track be built into the layout? Use a consistent of three locomotives and the pads are under the middle engine. The two out side locomotive to hold it in position?
Thanks for the video. My question regarding this cleaner is...if half the wheel surface is bound to be rolling on a ( narrower ? ) rail track. How does the part of the wheels sitting n the rail get cleaned?
It doesn’t, this thing to me is a bit of a scam. The part of the wheel running on the cleaner rail doesn’t get cleaned. I ran a loco through mine, then put a paper towel with lacquer thinner on the track and tons of black stuff still came off the loco wheels even after using this. Total rip-off in my opinion.
I am in the process of converting all my rolling stock with plastic wheels to intermountain metals. I have been running only the converted stock for the last month or so & have found the loco wheels have stayed a lot cleaner as has the track. Wheel cleaning is a pain in the butt but this devise looks the goods. As for N scale with my eyesight I would find it too frustrating & fiddly.
thats really cool. I've been looking for something to clean my engines wheels and i've not even been able to buy the track cleaner because i just ordered some amtrak stuff.
If I switch to N scale it will be more like an additional layout not a switch. So I would keep my HO layout and build another N scale layout and have both. But it was just a thought...
I can see maybe the engine turning wheel will clean but how is the rest of wheels being cleaned as your just rolling wheels on a pad not really doing anything, NO?
I'm gonna need that. My Brass HO Scale GS-6 4460's wheels and tender wheels need to be cleaned. but how do i get the engines wheels clean and the tender's wheel cleaned?
J.L. can you pick this up at Springcreek, in Deshler and when using you mentioned that the pads look similar to Velcro ok if Does is there any chance that some that Fiber getting rapped up around the wheels and causing issue or is it a type of Fiber where that would cause that type of issue, I got all N scale and I Watched a Video that member about fuzz getting up in around the wheel sets and looks to be a pain to clean.. So Hopefully that would happen with this Device.. Please reply when you can I really enjoy your Videos and hope you make the Switch to N scale soon its as fun as HO is which I many a sets in my younger Days :) thanks for your Time AKR
am I missing the elephant in the room here James? can this device also be used to test newly installed DCC & sound decoders WHILE cleaning the wheels? can I simultaneously test my direction, lighting and sound CV changes? I mean if the DCC is being passed from the rails and/or the box why not? of course there is no way to test tractive effort, slippage or weight changes but that's OK by me. what do you think jlwii2000? incidentally this is on sale today at Micro~Mark for $22 bucks.
@@jlwii2000 my new Roto Cleaner arrived yesterday and it does indeed pass DCC bits through the rails. So if your loco is equipped with sound it too wakes up and starts sounding off. I run On30 exclusively which should make no difference but it seems one side's wheels get more shiny and clean better than the other. Could be I was cleaning a Shay and only one side (the geared/pinion side) got much more torque than the other. My Heisler on the other hand was pretty clean all around. Cheers!
The problem of this system: Only the moving wheels get cleaned. At steam powered locomotives these are only 2, 4 or max. 6 out of 12 and more. The rest stays filthy and need manual cleaning. There are better methods than this Woodland thing.
DO YOU THINK THIS IS BETTER THAN THE FIRST YOY SHOW ON THE VIDEO BECAUSE I JUST CHECK A MINI TRIX CLEANER THAT IS LIKE THE FIRST YOU SHOW. ALSO THE WHITE POADS GETS DIRTY JUST WIHT ONE LOCOMOTIVE SO NOT GONNA BE USEFULL WITH A LOTT OF LOCOS ISNT IT REGARDS GONZALO FROM CHILE
Hey love your videos, you have helped me out alot. I tryed to message you on fb and add you, but im sure you get that alot. but if you ever have time i have some questions on dcc wiring. im new at this and i just built my layout tables last week and ready for wiring. If you see my friends request on fb my name is Jesse W. I promis not to take much of your time thanks again man and awesome job.
This thing is a bit of a ripoff, I have one and not all the wheel tread runs on the white pad, there still is a bit narrower track in this cleaner. Used it, then did the paper towel and alcohol clean, tons of black crud still came off on the paper towel. I found barely any of the wheel tread runs on the cleaning pads
Good review my friend good review I'm just asking if you could donate any Rolling Stock to me if you have some old pieces of Rowlett stock do you don't like or don't want could you just donate it to me thank you
nice tip on flipping the white pads around. I just got one of these wheel cleaners. so thanks for the video.
I am new to the hobby. I have 5 locomotives including 2 Atlas Gold DCC switchers. One didn't work well right out of the box. Spoke to a guy at Atlas who was very informative and friendly. He said try cleaning it before sending it in. I had less than 1 hour on this locomotive. I have a big packet of cleanroom wipes (non shedding). Put some alcohol on and did the classic put on set of wheels on the track and the other on the alcohol wetted wipes. Switcher works great now. Atlas guy explained that the locomotives get tested but not always cleaned before being boxed and shipped. Thanks for the review, I may pick up one of these Roto Cleaners for my freight cars.
Great review! I just purchased the rail cleaning system from Woodland Scenics and it also works very well. I have been wondering if this system really worked, now I know thanks for the review. I will be purchasing this very soon.
I have bought one of these now and it is well worth it. Easy to use and has made a real difference to some of my engines.
Weathering takes time, patience, skill and artistic talent. I have none of those. Plus, unless you're really good...I mean REALLY good...it kills the value of your locos and rolling stock. I like to try to keep value as much as I can so that if I want to sell them one day or sell them for bigger and better stuff I can without losing too much value in the process.
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Ironically I was about to buy one of these. Thanks for the excellent review
Your reviews are superb ! Well balanced, fair and honestly delivered. While I'm not one to create work for someone else to fulfill but keep 'em coming. Thanks !
Looks pretty easy to use. I think I need to get one.
These work good and better that using towels over the track. I use a pipette to apply cleaning alcohol and that works well.
They need to make a longer version for 4-8-8-4 locos. Or perhaps custom make your own.
Yes they are very good
You've convinced me. I have one on order.
This is exactly the video I was looking for. Well explained, clear and informative. Cheers
Thanks for sharing the review , appreciate your time and effort
it realy depends on personal preference i think that the goo gone on paper towels it best for me
I totally agree. A great product to clean engines and rolling stock. The track cleaning system is also great. Keep the great reviews coming!
thanks for the review. think you have made my mind up to purchase one in N
Not only do I clean my wheels with it, it can be used for a programing track (DCC) for my Locos. Sorry to hear that you are messy LOL.
Depends on how big your layout is - a really big one might need half an hour of rubbing down before you can run anything.
Great Videos
You would not need this thing.
If you kept your railheads clean, dust and grease settles on the rails when nobody is in the room.
When there are bodies in the room this gets moved and floats in the air.
All you need is a cloth and wipe the railheads, before you start an operating system.
Garf1437
England
Yes I have one and fine it handle for my rolling stock and locos
TOTALLY need one for my locomotives/cars
Did you say you're contemplating converting to N scale?
DO IT! I converted in 2006. I used to be a frustrated HO scaler, depressed that my layout curve radius was too small to run the locos and rolling stock I wanted. In N scale, even 18" radius is acceptable. I can run any rolling stock now, and run longer trains too! I'm much happier in N, and the quality of N scale trains today is almost equivalent to HO a few years ago.
How about giving us a close up off how the locomotive gets electricity. I’m thinking there is a rail there with the felt pad beside it. So if it’s using code 83 track, then not all on the wheel is getting cleaned.
They should switch to a non- rail system with steel wool cleaner. With way all the wheel tread is cleaned.
Where is the close-up of the wheels on the pads.
You are correct, I have one and not all the wheel gets cleaned. I used this, then ran a loco over a paper towel with lacquer thinner, tons of black stuff still came off the wheels. Total ripoff
If you swap the pads from side to side before you turn them over you could get up to four uses of each pad - both sides of top and bottom.
i use a chemical to clean my wheels and rails, its called rail zip, the wheels transfer it to all rails and keep them nice and clean.
this seems to be time consuming for over 500 locomotives, and over 3000 railcars
Thanks for posting that video i was in the market for a new and easy wheel cleaner for my locos , that looks like just the ticket :-) Cheers
Why cannot the tiny track be built into the layout?
Use a consistent of three locomotives and the pads are under the middle engine. The two out side locomotive to hold it in position?
You schould get that TTX i think it is. Buts its a brass tank car that you fill with liquid and pull it behind you loco and it cleans your track.
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Thanks for the video. My question regarding this cleaner is...if half the wheel surface is bound to be rolling on a ( narrower ? ) rail track. How does the part of the wheels sitting n the rail get cleaned?
It doesn’t, this thing to me is a bit of a scam. The part of the wheel running on the cleaner rail doesn’t get cleaned. I ran a loco through mine, then put a paper towel with lacquer thinner on the track and tons of black stuff still came off the loco wheels even after using this. Total rip-off in my opinion.
I am in the process of converting all my rolling stock with plastic wheels to intermountain metals. I have been running only the converted stock for the last month or so & have found the loco wheels have stayed a lot cleaner as has the track. Wheel cleaning is a pain in the butt but this devise looks the goods. As for N scale with my eyesight I would find it too frustrating & fiddly.
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thats really cool. I've been looking for something to clean my engines wheels and i've not even been able to buy the track cleaner because i just ordered some amtrak stuff.
hey their is a railcar (HO sale) that can clean the rails on the move i forgot the name of it but it looks pretty cool
If I switch to N scale it will be more like an additional layout not a switch. So I would keep my HO layout and build another N scale layout and have both. But it was just a thought...
If cleaned with the trix wheel cleaner first , think these would be ideal
Great video and information!
I can see maybe the engine turning wheel will clean but how is the rest of wheels being cleaned as your just rolling wheels on a pad not really doing anything, NO?
I do use Goo Gone with my cmx cleaner
Thank you for the review
Nice review...good job!
I'm gonna need that. My Brass HO Scale GS-6 4460's wheels and tender wheels need to be cleaned. but how do i get the engines wheels clean and the tender's wheel cleaned?
How do these work with steam engines?
Nice reveiw, very helpfull
J.L. can you pick this up at Springcreek, in Deshler and when using you mentioned that the pads look similar to Velcro ok if Does is there any chance that some that Fiber getting rapped up around the wheels and causing issue or is it a type of Fiber where that would cause that type of issue, I got all N scale and I Watched a Video that member about fuzz getting up in around the wheel sets and looks to be a pain to clean..
So Hopefully that would happen with this Device.. Please reply when you can I really enjoy your Videos and hope you make the Switch to N scale soon its as fun as HO is which I many a sets in my younger Days :) thanks for your Time AKR
ive sold a ton of those things and ive only heard good things. way easier than paper towels and alcohol.
I'm Just wondering why don't you weather anything on your layout?
If you switch to n scale whats going to happen to your collection of trains? I would hope you want to keep some if not all.
will you cover "how to keep your track clean"?
You mean to tell me that the fan on top of the engine doesn't spin? WTF not! $30.00 + shipping. Don't think so. I'll continue to clean 'em by hand.
Are there any recommendations for cleaning my big boys and challengers
Does the product harm rubber traction tires?
Thank you!
am I missing the elephant in the room here James? can this device also be used to test newly installed DCC & sound decoders WHILE cleaning the wheels? can I simultaneously test my direction, lighting and sound CV changes? I mean if the DCC is being passed from the rails and/or the box why not? of course there is no way to test tractive effort, slippage or weight changes but that's OK by me. what do you think jlwii2000? incidentally this is on sale today at Micro~Mark for $22 bucks.
you are correct is should be able to do that.
@@jlwii2000 my new Roto Cleaner arrived yesterday and it does indeed pass DCC bits through the rails. So if your loco is equipped with sound it too wakes up and starts sounding off. I run On30 exclusively which should make no difference but it seems one side's wheels get more shiny and clean better than the other. Could be I was cleaning a Shay and only one side (the geared/pinion side) got much more torque than the other. My Heisler on the other hand was pretty clean all around. Cheers!
The problem of this system: Only the moving wheels get cleaned. At steam powered locomotives these are only 2, 4 or max. 6 out of 12 and more. The rest stays filthy and need manual cleaning. There are better methods than this Woodland thing.
DO YOU THINK THIS IS BETTER THAN THE FIRST YOY SHOW ON THE VIDEO BECAUSE I JUST CHECK A MINI TRIX CLEANER THAT IS LIKE THE FIRST YOU SHOW. ALSO THE WHITE POADS GETS DIRTY JUST WIHT ONE LOCOMOTIVE SO NOT GONNA BE USEFULL WITH A LOTT OF LOCOS ISNT IT REGARDS GONZALO FROM CHILE
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Hey love your videos, you have helped me out alot. I tryed to message you on fb and add you, but im sure you get that alot. but if you ever have time i have some questions on dcc wiring. im new at this and i just built my layout tables last week and ready for wiring. If you see my friends request on fb my name is Jesse W. I promis not to take much of your time thanks again man and awesome job.
What are the chances you will be able to get your hands on the set of OMI HO NS OCS engines? I know a lot of acronyms, sorry! :)
This thing is a bit of a ripoff, I have one and not all the wheel tread runs on the white pad, there still is a bit narrower track in this cleaner. Used it, then did the paper towel and alcohol clean, tons of black crud still came off on the paper towel. I found barely any of the wheel tread runs on the cleaning pads
that too!
good cmx cleaner?
How much money was the cleaner?
if you do convert to N i'll buy your Athearn Genisis BNSF sd70ace and thoese auto racks in the backround for a deal
Hey let me know if your gonna get rid of anything i can take some of that off your hands.
Would be nice if they had a HOn3 version.
i think it would work with the n gauge one
Get the n gauge one.
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will it work with the athearn dda40x
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they need a larger one for steam engines, though :/
I carnt get it in australia :(
and long diesil locomotives
Good review my friend good review I'm just asking if you could donate any Rolling Stock to me if you have some old pieces of Rowlett stock do you don't like or don't want could you just donate it to me thank you
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Your teeth are so white , I envy you 0_0 , oh and my fathers name is james lol
Forget that. It's called isopropyl alcohol with a paper towel. Done!