High Rank Nargacuga speedrun with a mix playstyle of Condensed Spinning Slash and AED/SAED by HC. Enjoy! Team Darkside: ► Patreon: / teamdarkside ► Discord: / discord ► Twitter: / tds_hczs ► Twitter: / tds_chris
Tip for this boss sonic boom pods aren’t useless there something to make him into a. Blind rage which makes him do things that gives you opening and even when low in this state he will still attack also his tail is cut able
Love that the charge blade in savage axe mode does all additional damage to the spot where the axe head makes contact rather than swiping through the monster. That’s a really cool change!
Every time I watch a CB clip, there's always something new for me to learn. For example, I just learned from this clip that after any X or A combo of Savage Axe, you can press ZR to immediately morph back to Sword Mode. It's like a QoL change for me.
I'm absolutely loving charge blade in Rise. The way they reworked savage axe is perfect imo because now it's not just you either have SAED spam or savage axe as the definitive meta, you now get to use a mix of both playstyles when fighting monsters. I hope CB stays this way in the next generation.
Yeah each monster actually have their own movesets complete with directional inputs and attacks that combo, plus a parry system too. Each monster almost feels like a whole new weapon its super well designed
You could always use a mix of both in Iceborne, wdym? It was actually more balanced than it is in Rise, where it feels like you basically don't spend any time using the sword now.
Maybe, just maybe, this will be the coolest iteration of the Charge Blade yet. So exciting to keep playing and mix the playstyles the weapon offers, it's amazing!
It's a great way to fix spacing and the direction of attack! It's also a bit like when FPS pros do little mouse flicks and controller wiggles, keeps the flow going.
@@D1ab0lical damn my switch must be underpowered or something because even when i move the camera in kamura and look at the background i almost get a headache because the trees just get so much ghosting
Watching you play made me realise I'm going about the spinning axe (I forget its name) switch move all wrong. On World I didn't have much problem staying in sword and shield mode until the time was right to drop SAED, but in Rise all I pretty much do is go into spinning axe mode ASAP and stay there as long as possible slow rolling to dodge until I get knocked over. It's kinda worked well enough, I'm on rank 7 and I never fail a mission, and rarely get KO but it's super awkward and I just consume many potions to win. I need to try being more flexible swapping in and out of it as this video proved.
They did the SAED hitbox so dirty in Rise. I like that you're not using the new switch skill morph skill. Even with Rapid Morph the new one feels a bit clunky going from axe to sword.
@@piccolo3031 ik I am just looking at the skills trying to see which I should be targeting on my. Builds I am trying to learn how to build for the weapons I want to use
@@Reseng I missed playing World and was so happy to discover this in Rise. No more being super punished for accidentally using an SAED at the wrong time
Awesome run! I learned some useful stuff from watching this :) I just need to get used to standard controls rather than 3DS controls. I still sheath sometimes when I mean to morph/charge phials.
@@naomizavaglia I did not know to what degree, so I started with the base controls and the minor changes I always do (type 2 directional input for example). You pointing it out made me take a second look, and now I have run and guard set to ZR, so run no longer sheathes my weapon. Thank you!
How do you constantly just incapacitate the monster and wail away at it. I spend 80% percent of the time running snd 15% of the time getting beat up and 5 percent actually doing any damage
1:12 how do you do this counter when the shield is charged? I thought that button combo does a full SAED with a charged shield, or that attack if it's not charged... I can't seem to make that attack happen unless the shield isn't charged yet? I am so confused.. I've tried all the buttons after a block, I can't get that specific attack unless there's no charge on the shield, but his shield is charged when he does it.. EDIT: Well I've learned something new. If you hold backwards on the left stick and press X *after* pressing X+A it will change the SAED into the lesser version, regardless of if the shield is charged or not... I never knew this.. if this also could be done in MHW then I went over 1000 hours never learning this.
Yeah each monster actually have their own movesets complete with directional inputs and attacks that combo, plus a parry system too. Each monster almost feels like a whole new weapon its super well designed
@@Thaurok123 I think it's 45 seconds, getting hit will make you loose a chunk of time, and attacking will let you gain time back. There's more nuance to the time-limit tho.
So I'm a newbie that just started Monster Hunter: Rise and learning the charge blade. And I have to say...what the actual fuck. How do you play like this?
@@liverwind3958 The game has only been out for less than a week! Are the charge blade mechanics the same as in the previous games, and the mechanics just compound with each successive iteration?
Welcome to the hunt! Congrats, you picked the most technical weapon to start with, but once you learn more about how it works and the monsters you are fighting, you will be a powerhouse. The members of TDS spend massive amounts of time practicing for speed runs like these. Thanks to this they have a really good grasp of how the monsters function and know what moves are available to them to punish the monsters and avoid getting hit too hard.
It does make the game much faster paced that's undeniable. But it was balanced around to an extent. Hard hitting attacks like magnas double bite don't let you wirefall and if you don't properly manage your charges, pin moves are guaranteed death a lot of the time (jang's pin, magna's bite pin etc.). Also MH was never difficult. Apart from its first few iterations due to poor control responsiveness (not talking about character control) or at the end of its life cycle with ib for ex does it get "difficult". I cant disagree though that mh has been progressively getting faster and faster combat, which some people like and others hate.
The best balance for charge blade would be to just use the ultra burst just before the red shield runs out and lose the shield charge (not sword charge) that way without beeing able to recharge it while it's still red. Then there would be a reason to use the super more often without never using ultra like back in the day. Is the super burst finally viable again in this game? Like in terms of DPS? Or is it still best to use ultra, charge ultra and so on?
I have no idea how you got that mount on Anjanath to trigger. It didn't look like you did ANY mounting damage to it. Is this just what happens automatically when a monster loses a turf war?
3:48 So satisfying.
2:02 This man hit Narga so hard he literally lifted it out of the trap!!! :D
Me watching: Ok this looks easy.
In-game 2 mins searching: Is he above or below the map?
I'm just happy I can solo Rajang and not die. I don't care if it took me like forever. 😂 You're really an inspiration for CB, man.
i solo 2 rajang at once
@@ryuji4076 this is about his growth, not you.
World was my first monster hunter and rajang was the bane of my existence. Now I bust him up and it feels great lol
The comment section hasn't been loaded yet. And Narga's face is already broken.
🤣🤣🤣
you mean shrudded
Tip for this boss sonic boom pods aren’t useless there something to make him into a. Blind rage which makes him do things that gives you opening and even when low in this state he will still attack also his tail is cut able
Love that the charge blade in savage axe mode does all additional damage to the spot where the axe head makes contact rather than swiping through the monster.
That’s a really cool change!
Pro tip for anyone playing cb: hold down the button for more savage axe ticks
Thank you. I spent twenty minutes in the training room trying to figure out how to do it.
Thank you so much, I was really confused why my Savage Axe wasn't doing shit
Details please. Dont understand
@@knightvalory if you activate condensed spinning slash hold the attack buttons to charge philes and do more damage.
You also have to hold the corresponding button, for example for the double sweep attack you hold down a. I main charge blade don’t even the name haha
Nargacuga charge blade vs nargacuga
Thats like killing it with its future self
I wouldn’t say future self more like past self
Kind of like reverse terminator you go to the future and kill the guy
@@thedeath666xxx-8 The future self is the cb. How can you reverse terminator it exactly?
its like being stabbed in the gut with your own Femur
Some real Soul Reaver: Legacy of Kain stuff
Nargacuga: “Have you forgotten you couldn’t even touch me before?”
Anjanath: “Heh, sorry but I’ve gotten a little boost since we last met!”
Every time I watch a CB clip, there's always something new for me to learn. For example, I just learned from this clip that after any X or A combo of Savage Axe, you can press ZR to immediately morph back to Sword Mode. It's like a QoL change for me.
That is one powerful forbidden pizza cutter right there
I greatly appreciate you guys uploading runs of monsters that were available in world, as it won't spoil the surprise when I finally get the game
The return of AED K.Os, My favorite CB fighting Style
Man this video makes me love focus and rapid morph even more. The whiffs hurt me but its still awesome to watch. Nicely done.
That rapid morph is really doing wonders huh
I'm so happy to see the ripsaw being used.
I didn't want to spoil myself rise but I'll watch anyway
Same 🙈😂
big same
At least it’s only Nargacuga
Geoffrey Baratheon, is it you? XD
Big Same here as well! 🤣
Monster Hunter: Time Limit 50 Minutes
HCZS: All I need is 5...
the new CB is awesome, but narga is way more funnier with element cb ( khezu cb for thunder). awesome run HCZS :D
I'm absolutely loving charge blade in Rise. The way they reworked savage axe is perfect imo because now it's not just you either have SAED spam or savage axe as the definitive meta, you now get to use a mix of both playstyles when fighting monsters. I hope CB stays this way in the next generation.
Yeah each monster actually have their own movesets complete with directional inputs and attacks that combo, plus a parry system too. Each monster almost feels like a whole new weapon its super well designed
@@williamtess3660 There's a parry system? I've just been dodging and attacking with monsters..
@@matthewfera2954 if you time your dodge right before getting hit by the other monster you get the parry. Its cool af
I more like world savage axe animation than rise savage axe, it feel like rise savage axe animation more slower than world
You could always use a mix of both in Iceborne, wdym?
It was actually more balanced than it is in Rise, where it feels like you basically don't spend any time using the sword now.
Honestly a little surprised to see Wyvern riding in a speed run. Great stuff
one of the many amazing things about rise: mounting a monster is actually good, both for dps, drops and control.
Maybe, just maybe, this will be the coolest iteration of the Charge Blade yet. So exciting to keep playing and mix the playstyles the weapon offers, it's amazing!
Nothing will top the feeling of 4U charge blade, although rise comes close
The only thing I learn from Rise videos with CB’s is that Narga CB = Good
Edit: HOLY SHIT RAPID MORPH HAS THAT MUCH OF AN EFFECT?
And there I am, taking 15 minutes to not die the third time.
Me ^
Break the arms to cripple it, it really works
Is the palico named after the yugioh deck?
*kills Narga in **4:21*
Redditors: "We were on the verge of greatness, we were this close"
wdym?
@@dantefromdevilmaycry9857 It's one second away from being 4:20 which is le funny number
And you can see the last SAED only connected with the explosions :(
But that would have been 4:19 probably
Ah i see , u're a man of culture
As well
@@dantefromdevilmaycry9857 420
4:06 I love the little spin that you did just to kind of show off a little
It's a great way to fix spacing and the direction of attack! It's also a bit like when FPS pros do little mouse flicks and controller wiggles, keeps the flow going.
lovely hunt. Your game seems to be more fluid and polished than mine, did you use any specific options?
I know right, he did this in one of the laggiest area's in the laggiest map
@@MrGabrielLagg I really only see the game lagging in certain areas in multiplayer.
@@D1ab0lical damn my switch must be underpowered or something because even when i move the camera in kamura and look at the background i almost get a headache because the trees just get so much ghosting
@@MrGabrielLagg maybe your switch is overheating , you could try to change the thermal compund
@@MrGabrielLagg That might just be 30 fps. I don't get motion sickness from anything but I know it's quite common.
I will internalise this and improve my own charge blade game. Thanks much!
I've been going back and forth on sword charging and axe charging.
Gonna have to give axe charging another look.
It's nice to see a long hunt like this once in a while!
I’m glad they finally did a thing where you can ride monsters and make them fight for you. That’s what made me want to get this game
Watching these sometimes makes me feel bad for how slapped the monster get. TDS is too good 😂
NIIIIIICE RUN!!
So I take it the Narga CB is the one to go for!!!
毎回楽しく見てます。キャラクターの話す言葉がアクション映画みたいですね
Watching you play made me realise I'm going about the spinning axe (I forget its name) switch move all wrong. On World I didn't have much problem staying in sword and shield mode until the time was right to drop SAED, but in Rise all I pretty much do is go into spinning axe mode ASAP and stay there as long as possible slow rolling to dodge until I get knocked over. It's kinda worked well enough, I'm on rank 7 and I never fail a mission, and rarely get KO but it's super awkward and I just consume many potions to win. I need to try being more flexible swapping in and out of it as this video proved.
First time seeing Savage Axe in this game, looks beautiful.
I wish I was this good with CB. Love to see these types of videos with it.
woah nice run HCZS if you see this
Finally HCZS is back!
Great run HCZS!
They did the SAED hitbox so dirty in Rise.
I like that you're not using the new switch skill morph skill. Even with Rapid Morph the new one feels a bit clunky going from axe to sword.
4:05 Beautiful
was gonna comment the same thing lol
fur hire nailed it. and the hunter did okay too.
I mainly watch theses vids to find out some good builds
Most of the time there builds to fight whatever monster they are facing
@@piccolo3031 ik I am just looking at the skills trying to see which I should be targeting on my. Builds I am trying to learn how to build for the weapons I want to use
@@Mr.Hashira good idea
なんだこのチャージアックスの爽快な感じw
使ってみたい🌟
Glad to see one of your speedruns HC! Hope youre doing alright. This was an amazing run. My inner weeb says "sasuga"
Narga escaping the trap made me realize that they can actually fly and idk how to feel about that
Nara is super buffed, those arms tho 🌝
I just love the skill animation at risw
Wow. How do you saed without losing the redshield? plus whats that new axe move that dosent lose phials? Damn I have a lot to learn lol
The new move actually fills your phials if you hit enough, pretty good
As of World, you don't lose red shield when you SAED. It's just timed
@@Reseng I missed playing World and was so happy to discover this in Rise. No more being super punished for accidentally using an SAED at the wrong time
Because the combat system is just like world..only in generation/gu the red shield will gone after you use saed..
I love the feedback from saw like weapons. I have great jabbi hammer and the feedback is cool.
Are there even bleeding status in Rise? Ive been hit by moves that trigger bleeding multiple times but never got it even once.
Nope
Poison, sleep, para, and blast are the only status effects we can inflict on monsters. Everything else is elemental
@@keithedwards499 hes talking about the statuses inflicted by the monsters
@@viniciusmelo4112 Ah I got you.
The understanding for this game is godlike
Man that narcacouga had a family.. you did him dirty
Awesome run! I learned some useful stuff from watching this :) I just need to get used to standard controls rather than 3DS controls. I still sheath sometimes when I mean to morph/charge phials.
You know you can remap the buttons, right?
@@naomizavaglia I did not know to what degree, so I started with the base controls and the minor changes I always do (type 2 directional input for example). You pointing it out made me take a second look, and now I have run and guard set to ZR, so run no longer sheathes my weapon. Thank you!
@@connorhamilton5707 you're welcome man!
We were 1 second away... from greatness
3:49 surprise heh nargacuga didn't expect that
Im living that rapid morph here
How do you constantly just incapacitate the monster and wail away at it. I spend 80% percent of the time running snd 15% of the time getting beat up and 5 percent actually doing any damage
傷つけがないだけですごくいいゲームに見える
4:20 wait what that was a fast kill on nargacuga
0:35 is the fish suppose to be flying? looks a like a glitch there
yes it is full of a gas to distract monsters
yes, its an endemic life that pretty much taunts the monster into attacking it if you hit it. its pretty handy
That’s a toad, believe it or not
Damn only 1 second away from greatness 😔
That's what I'm ben waiting for. That swag cb moves. 😇😇
0:37
Excuse me fish are you alright ?
ニャルガクルガから来た人が1人はいるはず…w
僕はです
*New monster hunter releases*
Team darkside: *exists*
Every monster in the new game: *chuckles* I'm in danger
Nice video i like it
1:12 how do you do this counter when the shield is charged? I thought that button combo does a full SAED with a charged shield, or that attack if it's not charged... I can't seem to make that attack happen unless the shield isn't charged yet?
I am so confused.. I've tried all the buttons after a block, I can't get that specific attack unless there's no charge on the shield, but his shield is charged when he does it..
EDIT: Well I've learned something new. If you hold backwards on the left stick and press X *after* pressing X+A it will change the SAED into the lesser version, regardless of if the shield is charged or not... I never knew this.. if this also could be done in MHW then I went over 1000 hours never learning this.
I learned something new too. Thanks for coming back and posting your findings. Gonna put that to use.
Hate to break it to you but I think it’s been a thing since MHGU
@@korokseed1619 Well better late than never to learn I suppose. 🤣
@@SirFoxbutt True
Dammit, When I saw him mounted the Anji it made me want to buy a Switch lol. I dint know that that was a thing in rise
Yeah each monster actually have their own movesets complete with directional inputs and attacks that combo, plus a parry system too. Each monster almost feels like a whole new weapon its super well designed
@@williamtess3660 Interresting, and whats the time limit that you have doing this mount?
Rise is coming to pc eventually
@@Thaurok123 I think it's 45 seconds, getting hit will make you loose a chunk of time, and attacking will let you gain time back. There's more nuance to the time-limit tho.
@@doboticsribery5396 Thanks!
This vid convinced me to go rapid morph. The comparison vids in training room are too static, I needed to see it in a real hunt.
Wait, did Nargacuga always have a charge blade? That thing is awesome.
Crazy charm!
Them crits go brrrrr
Damn, dude. That saw blade thing whatever it's called looks painful. Poor Narga.
So I'm a newbie that just started Monster Hunter: Rise and learning the charge blade.
And I have to say...what the actual fuck. How do you play like this?
Practice and *_KNOWLEDGE_*
@@liverwind3958 The game has only been out for less than a week! Are the charge blade mechanics the same as in the previous games, and the mechanics just compound with each successive iteration?
@@Alpha4Sierra yea it’s pretty much the same as in world
@@Amoeba_Podre Okay, that makes me feel a little bit better. Just a bit though. Well now, I have a gameplay goal to strive for.
Welcome to the hunt!
Congrats, you picked the most technical weapon to start with, but once you learn more about how it works and the monsters you are fighting, you will be a powerhouse.
The members of TDS spend massive amounts of time practicing for speed runs like these. Thanks to this they have a really good grasp of how the monsters function and know what moves are available to them to punish the monsters and avoid getting hit too hard.
Dam I swear watching these guys is like watching an artist paint
How can you do amped discharge not super amped discharge even when the phial is full and the shield is red? really need help..
That is a huge nargacuga
That recovery after getting knockdown is like a cheatcode. Makes everything looks easy in this game.
You have to have a bug ready to do it. So it’s just resource management.
It does make the game much faster paced that's undeniable. But it was balanced around to an extent. Hard hitting attacks like magnas double bite don't let you wirefall and if you don't properly manage your charges, pin moves are guaranteed death a lot of the time (jang's pin, magna's bite pin etc.). Also MH was never difficult. Apart from its first few iterations due to poor control responsiveness (not talking about character control) or at the end of its life cycle with ib for ex does it get "difficult". I cant disagree though that mh has been progressively getting faster and faster combat, which some people like and others hate.
Think I'm gonna wait for another one year for this great game QAQ
Damn I remember back in MHFU that i used to practice hunt Nagarcuga because i'm bored.
Anyway. I feel like that area is driven from the old flooded forest
Coz it is the flooded forest, but better
It's literally a remake of the same map.
The best balance for charge blade would be to just use the ultra burst just before the red shield runs out and lose the shield charge (not sword charge) that way without beeing able to recharge it while it's still red. Then there would be a reason to use the super more often without never using ultra like back in the day. Is the super burst finally viable again in this game? Like in terms of DPS? Or is it still best to use ultra, charge ultra and so on?
Why does khezu theme Song Playing at The back at 2:47
Axe go brrr
Ah shit you could've finish with SAED if you were like 1 meter closer ! Great run anyway, you convinced me to take a switch just to play MhRise.
I have no idea how you got that mount on Anjanath to trigger. It didn't look like you did ANY mounting damage to it. Is this just what happens automatically when a monster loses a turf war?
What monster armor is your palamute wearing? It looks cool.
Wow. Watching this made me realize that I am absolute trash using charge blade.
Everytime is see this version of charge blade all hear are the clippers at the barbershop
now you can constantly beyblade swinging in MHRise
The most complete weapon.
Block, mobility and attack
ベイブレード振り回してて草
You are a Beast 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻
What's that?
How can you do the normal elemental discharge after the silk parry with your shield charged?
the monsters sure are resilient if it can take 5 spinning axe heads to the face and leave with just a few scrathces
2:23 I felt that
I see charge blade i hit like.