The Reality of Hunting Public w/ Aaron Warbritton | HUNTR Podcast
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- In this episode of HUNTR Podcast, we're joined by returning guest Aaron Warbritton from The Hunting Public to discuss the good, bad, and the ugly of public land hunting. If you're a frequent listener of the show, you know how often we talk about public land hunting and the many issues it brings to the hunting experience. We often ask ourselves why? Is it because all of the leased ground is full and there's nowhere else to hunt? Is it because it's being promoted on social media? Or is it due to the lack of state regulation? At the end of the day, hunters just want the same thing. A good hunting experience for everyone across the board. How do we get there? Enjoy this episode as we talk with Aaron and he shares his side of hunting public land...
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As a kid I always wanted to hunt, but didn’t have family really into it. As an adult there are so many questions revolving around how and where to hunt when you dont have land, or the money for lease or outfitters. Steve Rinella made me want to find those answers and the THP guys helped me get there. I'm hunting either way, but not all of us who hunt have people to take us out, so I appreciate anyone giving back and sharing a little of their experience. A series on a website or Netflix, CZcams, podcasts. This will be my third season, mostly bow hunting, and everything I’ve learned has been from content online and putting boots on ground. I’ll always be an advocate for these guys and those like them.
Almost the same boat. Meat eater got me into hunting, and THP has helped me on my journey to be a better hunter.
Can't argue with that. Stoked to have you guys!
@@HUNTRPODa push to limit rifle and crossbow hunting to only even or odd years. (Excluding handicap) With bow hunting being the main method, would increase population growth and decrease pressure on the herds and flocks. IMHO
Same boat man
Same here. Had family into it but by the time I was old enough to hunt, everyone quit hunting lol. CZcams hunting helped me immensely. Took me 4 seasons of only bow hunting but I killed my first deer last season ever...with a bow! Addicted dude! I bought the THP adapt and looking forward to this season!! Good luck dude!
Edit: I'm a Private land and permission hunter mostly.
"The way to make hunting great again is to make hunting hard again" was the greatest statement made since 2019.
Lol
Spot on!!! That phrase is going to stick & be repeated often!!!
Make hunting hard? Come to SC public land upper state lol. I think our deer use OnX too and waypoint hunters 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Really liked learning about THP's side of these issues. It was hard to keep listening after hearing Jared complain what a small parcel landowner is doing when he mentioned having 1,000 acres. If someone is beating you with 5-10 acres, and you have 1,000 that seems like a land management problem. I'm struggling to understand how baiting (in his situation) isn't seen as a way for poorer people to level out their hunting opportunity on their own land? I HATE baiting/feeding and have argued to get rid of it in TN, but don't understand this argument as baiting is bringing a leveler to the hunting in that area when 1 person owns a large chunk of the land. Would like to hear y'all talk through this more so I can understand it. As it stands, I may have come up with my first ever defense/positive though of baiting lol
"Now that everyone else has the knowledge and access to the same land i do, and because i got into hunting earlier than newer hunters, im upset that there is way too much pressure on that land and its all these new hunters causing it. Also if u have land, u should let me hunt it for free and not lease it." -the vibes of this podcast the whole time.
Not at all the point. The point is not enough public land to keep jamming new hunters into. Private you can do whatever you want, but public you can’t control the next guy, so there’s only so much room before you are out maneuvering hunters more than you are hunting deer
@HUNTRTUBE yeah and there will only be less over time with more hunters. Protect the land we got and welcome and develop new hunters. It might be perspective as well. Social media allows u to see how many people are hunting. U used to only know someone else was hunting an area u were by the lil debbie wrappers they left.
I know y’all don’t like crossbows but bust a shoulder up where you can’t draw a bow back you will embrace the crossbow. Love the poscast
100% there is a time and place. Jeremy and I will be there some day Lord willing. But we'll shoot verticals as long as we're able
Aaron is the man! Love how he uses common sense and experience to explain how not everyone has the same goals. Great perspective.. wasn't afraid to challenge traditions helping hunting culture vs big buck or bust. I still plan to harvest the biggest bucks in my area but I know that's not the majority of people. In my opinion, it's selfish to make statewide changes so a select few thinks they have better odds. I 100% agree about not making it easy for my kids because I want them to have a lifelong passion for hunting.
DANG, what a great conversation!! I just apologized (sort of) to my grandson (13) at the range the other day for focusing on woodsman ship instead of box blinds, bait, ect. His friends, it seems, send him multiple pics of NICE bucks minutes into first day of season. My questions are, do they know how to read the wind, sort out a track, recognize food sources, bed areas, scrapes, rubs, or even how, why and where they move through those areas? Do they have chickadees land on their bowstring? Humingbirds 6 inches from their faces? Can they smell the ceders, or know how to stay warm and dry in the rain or snow?....He missed a nice one 2 yrs ago, 140" class from a ground hide, off a camp stool OUR FIRST TIME OUT and took it REAL hard.... I spent the next 2 1/2 Hrs telling him every story where I missed or messed up over the last 50 yrs I could think of, laughing all the way through!! That buck, whether he knows it or not, did him a big favor. Hell, he'll be chasing him around for the rest of his life!!
Tip of the hat to you, Aaron. Sounds like you're on a good path to being a productive voice. Very inspiring.
Yes he is
This podcast probably best one so far. Really made me think about stuff I'm 50 yrs old and grew up and live in MI. When I was a kid I couldn't gun hunt til I was 14, 12 to bow hunt! Gun season was religion at our farm and it drove me crazy waiting til I was 14 to be part of it, I was hooked before I was of age! Opening day of deer season I couldn't wait to get home from school to see what was hanging in the barn and who got em! Good times gone nowadays! I could talk for hrs about this stuff like yall doing now lol
I really enjoy watching you guys and I’m a Pa guy too and been a a bow hunter for a long time and always said I would never be a cross bow guy but that has changed for me as I aged, I’m now in my mid 50’s have issue with some issues with my eyes and just can’t see well in those lower light conditions so I finally made the switch to a crossbow. So just be mindful that not all hunters using a crossbow are are guys not willing to put the time in to be a bow hunter. I do agree with you guys on the baiting too!
My first 13 years of hunting I hunted private land, but 3 years ago the land got sold and the new owner did not allow hunting. I had to learn to Public land hunt and really learn to hunt.
I tell you what, public land hunting will humble you and make you a way better hunter. After 3 years of cutting my teeth on public land I finally harvested my first deer. Just like Aaron mentioned, leasing or buying hunting land is becoming less and less obtainable so we have to embrace the suck and learn to hunt with the human pressure
Great podcast. I am from Pennsylvania. The problem with a board of commissioners is when they are appointed by a liberal governor you usually don't get the people with the hunter's best interest at heart. If I am correct I think the last one appointed in PA doesn't even hunt. Thanks for the great podcast. Keep it up.
Uggggh hate that!
Y’all are killing it. Love the content. Warb is a beast!
Appreciate the support!
I did a project in a GIS class that showed a map of New York State, each wmu, and it was color coded for total deer harvest, and it had a layer for public access land. To no surprise the WMUS that had the least amount of public land had more total deer harvest. These conversations are enlightening me more to the whole access issue 👍
great stuff guys. public land hunter here in north central illinois, i share access with chicagoland and the experience is tough, but i wouldnt trade the challenge for anything. heres to a successful season to us, the hunters
Times are changing, and it's not for the better in regards to hunting. Crowding and tag acquisition are the largest problems we're facing where I'm from. More hunters in the field at the same time is problematic. Wildlife and access to habitat is finite. More confrontation and the escalation of confrontation is inevitable. Non local hunters and media are the primary drivers. Recruitment is no longer positive. #huntquietly.
This episode was awesome and eye opening for me. I have been watching THP since 2017. Great episode for sure. The whole episode is relatable on so many fronts and really makes me want to get involved.
Just started getting serious bow hunting last year and bought a MXR by Mission. Then I stumbled across this podcast now I’m shooting a RX7 and just bought some plot boost. Great show boys keep it up
Welcome to the team! Setting up for a hell of a season
Watched this whole video: I’m 61, retired and recall bowhunting in 1983 with my cousin WITHOUT range finders,… had our clothes stuffed in a pillowcase full of persimmons or cedar chips, It’s a different world & sad kids nowadays can’t experience’ the grind as you call it which developed the joys or reward to the level of where we are today, thanks guys!!
So glad y'all are talking about these subjects. The kids having it too easy is definitely gonna ruin them on getting hooked for life. I'm purposely slowly bringing my kids into by teaching woodsmanship skills and starting with small game and eventually move on to taking a deer ! It should be a special moment. Sadly I have friends you have prime land and do nothing but bait deer. You even see the hot of hunting gone from all the stories
As long as there is the subset of hunters who look down their noses at those who choose to utilize a crossbow, corn pile, trail cams, and not focus on harvesting a 5-6 year old buck, we’ll never be a united front. Who am I to judge how someone else, who purchases the same licenses I do, chooses to hunt and harvest as long as they’re doing it legally? I blame hunting social media for the state of affairs we’re dealing with now. It has created unrealistic expectations for the vast majority of the hunting community. It’s a small percentage of folks who can hunt a half a dozen + states a year, compared to the average working stiff who only gets to hunt a couple Saturdays the entire season. I’m not gonna be the one to tell him he can’t hunt over a pile of corn with his crossbow, especially if it’s his land he’s paying the taxes on.
It's a fair argument. But, what if tomorrow, your state said "you know what, we have too many deer. It's bow legal to shoot them at night with a spot light." Are we still on board?
@@HUNTRPODI’m sure there would be those who would gladly do so, but I’m not going to sit around and bitch about it. I’m gonna go on doing my thing, hunting and being happy. I truly believe the PGC wouldn’t shed a tear if the deer numbers dwindled. Look at the amount of tags they offer up year after year.
Just bought myself a bear adapt thanks to the hunting public last week. I’ve already put 100-150 arrows down range through. It and I’m loving it. For “just some CZcamsrs” they can make a hell of a good bow!
Awesome to hear man, good luck this season!
Great episode guys one of my favorites. Warb is a great dude. I enjoyed hearing his take on some of these topics. Keep up the good work fellas catch ya next Tuesday. 👍👍
Thanks man
I have never baited or owned a camera and I live in ohio and the deer in my picture (164-3/8” 10 point) was taken with a bow on the ground at 7 yards on November 7th 2023 with no blind. Just sitting on the ground. Got an older 10 point in November 2022 the exact same way… I’ve only hunted three years. My first year I got an 8 point. I’ve also got 3 bucks in Kentucky (one per year since I started hunting in 2021)… point being, I don’t agree that you need corn piles to keep up with neighbors… and I am hunted 100 acres with multiple family members.. 5 of 6 bucks have been in camo sitting on the ground just playing wind and sitting still. Don’t overcomplicate this guys. Loved the convo and really have a ton of respect for Aaron.
Hunting not hunted *
Im right there with u guys agree on alot of the subjects. Im 38 been hunting since i was 13. Ive had that fire burning in me since my first deer hunt. My brothers give me a little bs because i had 4-5 big buck encounters last year but couldnt seal the deal. I watched 2 different 140+ bucks 25 yards away in a scrape for seemed like eternity before i decided i was wanting to take it then the shot was no longer but i was genuinely ok with not getting either 1 because i didnt want it to end. I want it the hard way or no way at all.
That’s it man! I bet you smack one this season
I live and hunt in Missouri. I believe MDC is the best in the country. Every interaction I have on public land is a positive experience. It is nice to live in a state where you see your money going to the areas you hunt, fish , camp...
They are one of the good ones, there are a lot out there. Mississippi imo is the best. Maybe not the most money but damn do they have great people.
Love your content guys!!! I live in GA and I am very fortunate to get to lease land in KY on a choice piece of ground in Grayson county from a land owner who'd practically give you shirt off his back. He's kept the price very reasonable and won't even entertain other offers, even for more money, as long as we want to continue to lease it. I've actually hunted Pine Log WMA that Aaron mentioned. It's a crying shame the DNR lost it to developer.
good discussion! Hate to be a senior citizen commenting on things younger folks are experiencing and trying to give advice that may or may not pertain. i do have a right to my opinion however so here it is. Deer camps, and only if they still have the mix of folks that Aaron talked about, is a very important tool that will produce a hunter that has a realistic perspective on what actually exists for most hunters in most states. Tough to start a deer camp with that makeup anymore, anyone is lucky if they are a member of one anymore. You need three generations, at least, included in that camp to get all the input you need for the youngest and/or most inexperienced hunters to hear and be able to form opinions on.Taking a four year old out to shoot a deer is not a good thing in my opinion in any situation for a multitude of reasons. Good decisions on how you are approaching things Aaron with your boys. I have two daughters who both went with me to put up treestands, sat in blinds with me before they were 12, and both tried turkey hunting and deer hunting. Neither still hunts but also neither are anti-hunters and they both have an appreciation for those who do hunt, whose who harvest wild game to eat, and the satisfaction of someone who is able to kill a bigger buck.
He says they don’t spot burn but in the same sentence complains that when they show a big buck that spot blows up with more people. I don’t think they spot burn on purpose. But it’s still happening.
I agree with so much of what you guys are saying regarding making better hunting opportunities for everyone net necessarily just more opportunities. And I’m so conflicted at the same time as our hunting ground that us and our neighbor are trying to manage for old/big deer butts right up to 400 acres of heavily pressured public with no restrictions on amount of people or tags for bow season (10 trucks or more on a November weekend). We struggle so much to grow the deer we’re chasing and selfishly I’d love for them to close this public back down or limit hunters there drastically but I know that is just not fair to those who are getting their opportunities taken away. Hard issue.
It's indeed complicated and hard to not react or think with emotion attachment from our love to hunt and the whole shebang! Alot of your not wrongs from many angles to the extremely nuanced topic. I think just trying to keep the mental somewhere around just hunting,being happy for our opportunities and others success/happiness if a spike does it however vastly different the goal is. If all is up n up,paid,not illegal then exceptance without resentment and dragging our mental down is the only way forward! It's wild out there though and being triggered much easier then facing it takes all kinds of kinds and we as individuals broadly speaking have earned no more then the ol'skip the hardship straight to big time hunter in reality if they have the resources then they have the choice freely murica.😂 I've lost all traditional ground and spent 7 years mad as hell to no good affect. All a nonsensical,nothing good possible foolish mentality that hurt me and me alone when I shoulda been glass half full so I highly recommend glass half full across tge board. Just get out there and take the lumps and we'll still find that which we seek whether that muie grande is taken or not
I would see this as an opportunity. The amount of pressure on the public ensures your private can be the safe haven for daytime buck movement. I hunt only public and the big bucks I see only travel at night on the public. You might get a chance on the big ones in the first day or two of the bow season but once they catch wind of the hunter presence they never set foot on the public in the daytime.
I would just make sure your boundary is clearly marked for no trespassing and keep on that to ensure your zone is unpressured.
You're right to a degree. A few of the older deer definitely shade away from the public. The bigger problem is age class. The best 2/3/4 year olds just have a super hard time making it. @@Earendur08
I CANNOT WAIT FOR SEASON
SEPERATE CROSSBOW SEASON AND NO BAITING. THAT IS ALL. MOVE ALONG. 🤣
Hell yeah and Thats The best thing ive ever heard ( make Hunting Hard Again) couldn’t agree more solid cast fellas
Thanks!
Love the “Miguel’s Pizza” Nalgene 😄 Stayed there before hiking Red River Gorge 👍🏻
FYI- Texas outlawed archery in Texas rivers which is public access property! SB1236 went into effect September 1, 2023. Hunters lost conservatively 650,000 acres of public hunting with a bow.
The habitat is absolutely an issue. Every state is experiencing habitat regression. As a beekeeper as my sole income, habitat has caused us to make hard decisions to travel farther away from home to have yard locations where the bees are in our best interest. Poor habitat means poor nutrition for ALL WILDLIFE.
THP is making awesome content with only intention being fun hunting and exposure to good - this is a great conversation. It does often feel like blue collar hobbies are now being controlled by money.
Make that shirt!!!!!! As a Texas hunter that hates baiting but still baits to stay in the game I can 1000% relate to this. I just choose not to hunt over bait.
Haha ok
All i know is we all go out for the same reasons. Why hate on eachother just share and enjoy flat out. And anyone legaly hunting for food never dog them for what they harvest. Any newbies in OK let me know public is easy to get to now.
Saw emails where they made money in Tennessee. Now we are getting more crowded. Thanks THP..
I've noticed less people now in west TN. I'll take it lmao. Where they went in Middle TN kinda gave away too much. I like 2 hours from there, but still knew immediately where they went. That area got plastered afterwords.
Adapt and conquer fellas👍🏻
Great Podcast. Nice to have Warb on there as he is a class act. As far as the baiting goes I know it is a culture in some states but I absolutely hate it. I live in Wisconsin and the biggest problem I have with baiting is it teaches the youth hunters nothing about actual hunting. All it teaches them is how to pull the trigger. My feeling on crossbows is save it for the kids, elderly and the handicapped. I have mixed emotions about the youth seasons as I feel like it is just another way todays society rewards young hunters with not having to work to hard to have success. I had a issue once with the Minnesota DNR about the youth duck hunting. I asked them why the youth season shooting hours were a half hour before sunrise and the regular duck season for all hunters didn't open until noon. They stated that they felt it was safer for the hunters to get reacquainted the first day in daylight as it would be safer, so I asked them why they let the most inexperienced hunters go out and set up in the dark and they couldn't answer my question. Seemed kind of ass backwards to me.
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what is the difference, from a hunters point of view, between hunting over a pile of corn they bought at the store and hunting over a field plot they planted on their property? Sure, one requires more work on the part of the hunter, but does it change the perspective of the deer? no, it's just a food source to the deer all the same. I don't think anyone who's calling for an end to baiting, an end to crossbows for everyone but kids, old folks, and the disabled, I don't think you guys understand that ultimately you're just calling for more power and resources to be concentrated into regulation enforcement. Example, you want to end baiting? ok, so you're prepared to grant legal access to your property by game wardens so they can check your property for bait piles (meaning they can just walk onto your property from anywhere without your knowledge or permission to check for bait piles)? Like....we all know that writing something into law is no guarantor of compliance with it, and if you can't or are unwilling to enforce a law, then it is effectively not a law. so before people start calling for more rules and regulations, maybe consider the consequences realistically. The truth of the matter is that deer respond to hunting pressure more than anything, and ohio is one of the most pressured states in america; it's more likely that public land deer are responding to hunting pressure more than the neighbors bait pile a quarter mile away.
Hey guys,
The plant that you mentioned early in the podcast, that you compared to Queen Ann’s Lace, might be Wild Parsnip.
It is fairly tall, 3-4’ high, green stem with a yellowish flower. It is very nasty stuff to tangle with. Prevalent along roadways, ditches.
You’ll have to look it up and compare and see if it fits description of what you actually saw there.
Have a safe fall,
God bless.
Awesome podcast! Love hearing all that A-aron had to say. I wish Louisiana would add antler restrictions and do away with baiting. And as for the shirt... make it! Be even cooler if you could stick the Mathews logo in there somewhere.
Orange hand cleaner for grease and stuff the gritty stuff scrubb twice a day helpe me alot and dried it out over time n gone In a week
Let’s go!!
We agree we are all hunters. It doesn’t matter what bow or crossbow we use. Just do not agree on separate season for crossbows. I have killed many deer with my vertical bow. I have not lost any deer with my crossbow. I shoot 30 yards in. Don’t let the evolution of equipment brake down hunter against hunter.Nobody wins. Stay United pro hunter.
They have their place, just not sure it’s simultaneous with vertical bows
Crossbows are not the same as bows. The skillset to shoot a crossbow is not the same at all. Someone with no experience can accurately and easily shoot a crossbow. This is not true for a bow.
Crossbows also allow for less movement. All you do is raise the crossbow, aim, and pull the trigger. That's not a lot of movement compared to a bow that has to be drawn, and then held for a period of time before releasing a shot. Inconsistencies in bow draw, hold, release etc all negatively affect accuracy and require practice to overcome. A crossbow is point and pull the trigger. It ain't the same.
Crossbows have their place, but I agree that the place for a crossbow is not alongside the entirety of the bow hunting season as if it's the same thing.
@@Earendur08 I agree crossbows are not the same.Here is more info. I have taken 30 deer on public with my matthews mxz.Handed that down to my son. I personally can’t draw it back anymore, when temperatures get below freezing. But I still want to hunt with my son during bow season. There is why I don’t agree in separate seasons. That’s my 2 cents. I am concerned with dwindling amount of hunters . I have given it my best to teach other dads and kids . Bow hunting is a rush like no other.
The bad thing about a stamp is that you would lose money coming from the general fund and only be able to use the funds from the stamp for said goal. For instance, some upper midwestern states wanted to bring about a walleye or musky stamp. If that were to happen, the state would only be able to use the funds from that stamp to hatch and raise walleye or musky. They would lose the money from the general fish stocking fund. So in the end, they’d actually end up with less money!
Yea I know Pennsylvania has voluntary stamps. Sure people are cheap but I buy a wild trout and musky one every year
I have seen friends’ kids shoot a big buck their first time out and then they don’t want to go back out…my son just wants to get his first buck, whether it be a spiker or huge buck. He loves going out!
That happened to me too the selling of property
I appreciate their effort to not spot burn areas. But as a local I can tell you last year they hunted my state for the first time and went to a piece of property about 45/60minutes from me. I knew exactly where they were standing lol 😂
Love listening to this one, I’m not a THP guy but definitely cool to hear Aaron’s perspectives on various topics. Crazy how it seems like every guest you guys have on no matter where there from says the same thing about access to hunting… “I used to go an hunt wherever I wanted” do you guys think we will ever get to a European model of hunting?
We are almost there in a lot of parts of the country
@@jonessportfishing I am starting to suspect that to be honest…
Hey guys been subscribed to hunting public for a while seen yall a few times so subscribed yeah you talking about public land hunting I ran a check station for a couple years and I got to hear it all of the time people talking about bikes going by them and 4 wheelers quads not trucks whole time I'm listening I'm thinking don't set up on the side of a road or trail if you do you have to expect people at some time or another are going to come by you Good luck to all of you this year and be safe
Yep that will do it
As a crossbow hunter in a state full of public land where its illegal to bait on it. I started archery with a crossbow because it was easier than a compound. I wanted to use a compound, didnt want to go to the gym just so i could draw a bow back. I had hunted for years for everything, but only rifle for deer and essentially never had success until after i starter archery. Rifle deer in PA has been a different breed since ‘04.
Now because PA doesnt allow bait, and is a huge state, i have to work for good archery hunting. Which i do happily. I drive 3 hours every friday night or saturday morning depending on the time of year to get to the mountains and big woods of the northern part of the state. Where there are hundreds of thousands of acres of public land, barely any archery hunters, and absolutely awesome hunting! And if you take the time, their are LOTS of mature bucks. The only issue is being good enough to get them into archery range
I’m just starting out as a bow hunter. X bow hunting…..
Permethrin or skin so soft will help avoid future chigger issues. The other plant youre talking about is wild parsnip
Can’t complain about the hunting pressure and people being out there hunting public when that’s all y’all do is promote hunting public land when you got an influence like y’all do it’s gonna make a difference a lot like realtree back in the day
What I think they're honestly doing is showing the average guy that he can get out there and put just a tad bit of effort and be successful which is inspiring new and old hunters to get back into it
It's a fine line. I come from a serious hunting family, and everywhere we used to hunt is now more crowded than it was back then. Our whole hunting group agrees. Private land becomes more of a necessity the more time goes on. Even if it's only 5-10 acres. Got to have a back up plan these days. That being said, every part of our society is more crowded now. Not just hunting land. Hunting industry people just speed up the process.
The problem with no baiting really hurts the people that might only have 3 or 4 acres that can’t get quality deer to stop on their property at all as to where people with big private property and farm then get all the opportunity
Touching onto the topic of wildlife habitat/ public access, there is a concept for a "green bill of rights"/ amendment, which is an acknowledgement that people have an inalienable right to clean air, water, and generally a healthy environment. The struggle of the younger generations who wish they could farm, own a home/ not be gouged by mega-investor landlords, and to simply enjoy time outdoors within nature cannot be understated.
I feel that hunters, farmers, and any outdoor aficionado should look into the concept of land commons. I stumbled across this in my readings from a professor and landscape architect named Kofi Boone. This may be a keystone in not only preserving our sacred wild spaces and hunting traditions, but to better us as a nation.
Thank you gentlemen for your insights, voices, and perspectives. May this season be fruitful afield and elsewhere.
I hunt in Eastern Texas mostly where properties are small and we can use high powered rifles over bait for 60 days. I hunt over bait some, but mostly I hunt bucks that don’t even visit bait. Deer here know to avoid bait to stay alive.
First time 35 year old Hunter here never been here my wife and I went and got a hunting license and planning on going hunting this season. Neither one of us have ever been and we’re in Massachusetts. If I understand the rules and laws correctly I can’t use bait or sense or any of that kind of stuff to go hunting at nor do I want to use any of that stuff I think hunting over bait is ridiculous. I don’t even watch CZcams videos about hunting. If they’re hunting over me I just add the video in my state a crossbow is only for people with a disability And we’re not allowed to use rifles at all but I’m really looking forward to going out and just try hunting for my first time and I don’t care what size deer I get a long as I put meat in the freezer. I’ll be happy.
Great podcast! Imagine if there was a way to bring different walks of life together over their love of the outdoors, in hopes of reserving and preserving land for future generations. Politicians pander. If enough people sign a sheet, those chameleons will change colors faster than the leaves in fall. Start bookmarking real money for access and the conservation of what land they haven't squeezed dry yet. We get the land they can't drill, farm, or build on. I appreciate what we do have and would like to leave it to future generations.
Arkansas has the sale tax too. That goes to the game and fish. We had the 3 point rule. Until CWD hit my part of the state.
I've said it 1000x before that PA public is public for a reason because nobody else wants to own it. However there are deer out there those guys that say there's no deer on public just aren't willing to put in the work for them
100% would buy that t shirt
Hahaha niiiice
Try living in a state that allows deer hunting with hounds. You guys beat the hell out of the corn pile situation, but I’d gladly take a neighbor that dumps out some corn over dealing with neighbors dumping 15-20 dogs off into a wood block and do a deer drive
Yea I experienced that in Mississippi…wild
States are seeing less hunters to Warbs point, because the leasing aspect is taking a property that several local hunters used to be allowed to hunt, and now it’s a couple wealthy guys from Chicago! 2 tags got sold instead of 10? Simplistic example but makes sense to me
States should institute an “Adopt a Hunter” program. Hunters register to partake (gives landowners security) and are kicked from the program if a landowner gives them a negative report (rutted up field etc.) the number of hunters you could “adopt” would be dependent on acreage and landowners would get tax breaks from the state for participating.
Interesting approach. Uber for hunting. I know some guys have tried starting something like this. It's tough tho bc hunting Properties aren't as disposable/universal as a ride somewhere
The 4 people Warb was referring to are The Lindsey's and Drurys
In Arkansas we can bait but after I quit hunting over corn I started killing more buck big bucks eat bait piles at night I don't like hunting like that but to each their own o ya I love my crossbow lol public land crossbow killer
Pa didn't open crossguns in 16 or 17 my dad bought his the first season it allowed and that was 2009 so its been almost 15yrs now so its never gonna change no matter how many complain about it
Yea 2009 you are correct
Oh you guys gotta ease up a bit on the crossbow crowd. I was a rifle hunter for nearly 20 years who got tired of sitting on the sidelines watching the bow hunters and all the rut action to go out in overcrowded woods freeze my butt off and not see a thing, so yes I picked up a crossbow and I got out. I never took a shot at a deer at 100 yards or even 50, it took me 3 years to learn how to even get in close enough and it wasn't until I watched Zach from THP crush the PA challenge that I really threw out the book I'd been hunting by a week later I drilled my biggest buck to date from the ground on a 7 yard shot. Once I realized I had the skill to get in close and or get them to come to me I bought a compound bow. Not all of us go for the crossbow and stick to it I love the added challenges and dynamics archery adds to the mix and for me it was more about lessening the learning curve, I didn't wanna be learning and familiarizing myself to a brand new weapon and techniques so I used a crossbow as a stepping stone. I think for kids, people with disabilities and people making that transition its completely acceptable but if you have the ability you should strive to use a bow in the long run of things
I asked 18 different land owners early this Spring for Turkey access this year. I got 18 no’s…
I’d love to have one of those Nalgene bottles if y’all get tired of them don’t throw it away I’ll take it I’ve always wanted one
I like crossbows they are cool, but I think they should be treated like muzzle when it comes to the timeframe of use in the season
I havent gotten chigger bites nearly as bad since ive been using permethrin on my clothes. I wear long knee high socks with permethrin on them as well and i never get them on my ankles anymore like i used to. Now if i manage to get any it will just be like one or 2 around my waist line but since using permethrin i havent gotten eaten up bad anymore. Going on about 6 or 7 seasons now of using it
I had predetermined on head to toe, still got hammered haha
@HUNTRTUBE dang. I guess I mostly hunt/prep bottomland as well so I'm not walking through a lot of tall grass. But I know my friends who refuse to believe in permethrin get ticks on them in the same areas on the same trips
they may go to great lengths to not burn a spot, but they could just go all the way and remove the state name entirely. it's not helping anyone
I think you both need to hunt a Darton trail master compared to those fancy bows or stick and string. Fact is a crossbow is a better killing weapon. Habitat, access and recruitment are all real good points !
If I practice over and over can’t I be as ethical with my vertical bow
I think the plant you guys were describing that causes the bubble with fluid underneath your skin may have been running into was wild parsnip not sure though
I think so too
In wv I've seen public or non posted private dwindle. I wish and hope they could convert a lot of theses old strip coal mines yo public hunting but they are getting bought up or leased out as well.. another huge concern I have is the Hatfield and Mccoy trail buying up land for there highly regulated trails which I'm pretty sure dosnt allow hinting on or near
That Hatfield and McCoy Trail is in the Bowhunting Only counties too, right?
@HUNTRPOD yes.. a lot of it is..u can use the trail to travel to and from hunting areas. But cannot hunt on or near the trail itself..
@HUNTRPOD I live near the Lincoln , logan, mingo, Wayne County lines(Cabwaylinos stare park) near East Lynn Lake, and if you ever decide to hunt or fish in wv you have a free place to stay and a free local guide.
Size wise, in your opinion what would be a realistic gole to set for a buck in state game lands in north west pennsylvania?
Just depends how much time you have and how far you're willing to go haha. Plenty of 160+ if you know where to look. Bot saying we do lol
Warb, good job dealing with these clowns!! Dork City podcast
The non resident issue has made the local hunting here in Idaho not worth it. Im so tired of seeing Washington state folks that i gave up the hunting because the experiance just is not what it should be. Theres too many folks and not enough resources, time to take up other things.
Love ypu guys. But please let your guests finish there though.....just like how Rogan listens and asks the question. Much appreciated. 🇺🇸👍🏻
We are trying. Some of it is the delay. Rogan is all in person it’s a lot cleaner. The internet lags with guests make it hard
Understood 👍🏻! In person is always better. Thanks for the great podcast, I enjoyed it.
Go in the woods on Saturday ,the chigger bites show up Sunday night!
Honest question-what would it take circumstantially for you to stop hunting?
If somebody stops hunting because it’s too difficult or “this experience is dog poop”-were they really a hunter? And that’s not meant to be condescending or to say that I’m in any position to call somebody a true hunter or not. But I can’t imagine any realistic scenario within “the hunting ecosystem” where I’d stop hunting.
What about a bait limit? Like you can't have more than 5 pounds on a property. Like a salt block.. Can't bait in SD but the rancher next door has salt blocks for his cattle
It’s all about enforcement, open the door a little and people kick it in
Dk what the right answer is.. I hear that neighbors of mine put corn out. But a 50lb bag of corn lasts like one day, prolly just a huge waste of time and risk on their end
There should be a learning curve to hunting. THP is putting out mass information. It's not good for hunting. Now you get your local public land trampled with the same tactics while they gaining fame and fortune to be able to move around and hunt different areas.
Absolutely a great pod! can’t wait till season starts!
Dude we are on edge
My grandmother would mix up water and bleach to put on chigger bites. Eased the irritation immediately.
Oh very nice to know
You guys talk about Hunting corn piles a lot I live in Maryland and Hunt West Virginia also ans in Camp in West Virginia we were able to bait and let me tell you you’re not killing a big one off corn now if you hunt properly and hunt couple hundred yards away that’s a different story
I was waiting for you guys to get warb on for a rebuttle
We’ve planned it with him since that night lol
A debate would’ve been better than a one sided rebuttal. Even better do it in any Midwest public hunting parking area crammed with nonresident trucks that mysteriously showed up in the last few years 🤔
I don't see a problem with baiting in some states. Now it does prevent spreading of diseases from deer to deer. I don't See a problem with the state's that have poor crop land production being able to bait for deer I live in Missouri right on the Illinois Missouri state line About an hour and a 1/2 North of Saint Louis. There's a lot of good hunting down through there but some of the places I can say could use a lot more better Dear management on it the funds are definitely not there
Bring back deer check in stations. I hate online check in with a passion. My greatest memories of hunting growing up was going to whatever gas station or whatever and see what everyone else shot. Where I’m at in Ohio there’s like 2 deer check ins in 30 miles and i hate it because i want to go and see what people have got. The comradery is gone
It’s absolutely faded that’s for sure
We see it all the time. Come to the.woods friday and go to the bar. Hunt sat go to the bar. Wake up late Sunday and go back to the cities and complain there is no deer.
Do yall feel the same way about standing corn? That's its bait or do you consider it habitat improvement?
If oklahoma ever bans trail cameras i will be 1st to file a lawsuit against the state
I havent used bait or any trail cameras the 25+ yrs ive hinted in wv. untill midway through this season. And i have killed a couple 130 inch deer and plenty of smaller bucks in my life.. But i think cell phone camaeras are makes it easier than corn piles.. because you can hunt multiple spots from your home by just waiting for the notification and then going to that spot.
Baiting alone you atleast have to be there at 1 spot..
I have one friend that hunts. And I pretty much forced him into it. But I have few friends my age in rural kentucky that hunt. I am 32
state WMA's and DNR's could bridge the public-private land baiting issue without outlawing it by installing and maintaining feeders on public land, especially public land that is adjacent to privately owned AG property and privateers/leasers hunting over bait piles. They don't even have to tell the public where the feeders are installed necessarily, just that they exist. if hunters find them they find them. it would at least help keep some deer on the public lands. IMO, the average hunter hunting public land will never see, touch, or scout 90% of an individual public parcel anyways; they'll set up over large feed/kill plots or at the public/private edge where AG meets cover on the property line, etc. In other words, if none of those features exist on public land and no feeders are installed, very few hunters will try and hunt that property.
I think I’m a prime example. Didn’t grow up in a hunting family but around other families who did. No one would ever take or teach me anything and when I got old enough I took it upon myself to learn and once I let an arrow fly at a target I got hooked on archery and once I let one fly at a deer I got hooked on hunting deer then when I put one through the heart of a mature buck I got hooked on everything about hunting mature bucks. I’m not good at it I don’t really know shit but what I do know is self taught and by watching thp, huntr, seek one etc. another thing I know is Steve Rinella is the most popular name in the hunting industry and he can’t stand his own brother. Not my business, just saying. Love the show boys get Bret joy on. Mike out!