Best R7 series on YT right now, hands down. Keep going bro, appreciate all your hard work! Have an R6 right now, looking forward to upgrading to an R5C or whatever newer cines come out in the future.
The big photography question, of course, is how do you keep your cat from blocking the monitor when you're trying to learn stuff from a CZcams video? Cats have an extremely high Block Factor that dramatically reduces the useful resolution of even a high-quality monitor. A little more seriously, I got some interesting info from this video (the parts that I could see) and since I'm thinking about getting an R7, it's timely info too. Thanks!
4:25 actually I think you CAN use sigma 18-35 F1.8 with the speedbooster because that lens while being an APSC lens, has a image circle big enough to cover a fullframe sensor from around 20mm( if I remember correctly), I've tested it out with my Sony A7iii and EF mount film cameras. even at 18mm the image circle still covers like 80% of the frame. So with the roughly 1.14 crop factor your speedbooster provides, you might just cancel out the vignette at 18mm !!
Got my day-1 R7, pass-through adapter, and speed booster adapter. Really opens up the possibilities with full-frame EF glass. It's like having 2 lenses in 1. More reach with the regular adapter and more FF-like with the speed booster. The speed booster works with the Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8. There will be correctable vignetting zoomed in at ~24mm or more (requires cropping at wider FOVs), but it allows you to shoot video in 4k crop mode @ 60 fps without losing as much of the FOV (1.81x0.71=1.285) or resorting to line-skipping mode.
Waiting for my Metabones to arrive. Very interested to see for myself. On the R7, your 500mm F4 becomes a FF 550mm equivalent with the light gathering ability of an F2.8 and the apparent DOF of F4 . It is like having a second camera body. BTW, a speedbooster reduces focal length. F stop is a function of lens area and focal length. So the F stop goes up one stop for real. A CF camera gives you a one stop increase look in terms of DOF. The speedbooster brings it back one. Thank you for your great explanation
Hey Josh. I just wanted to thank you for this video. I found it a few months ago while i was still waiting for my r7 and was thinking about future options in terms of lenses. I now own the r7 with the viltrox speedbooster (happy i still got one seeing how canon restricts third party manufacturers) and a canon rf 24-70 II L and i just love the combo. One thing that i have noticed is that most of the time my adapter doesnt calculate the new focal lenght and aperture. Re attaching the lens and adapter usually fixes that, but still more often than not it does not do the math. Doesnt affect anything else but still annoying.
I've got one of these speed boosters and I used it once - the image degradation was totally unacceptable on my daily driver lens - a 28-70 F2.8 L lens. Sorry but I would strongly recommend thoroughly testing this adaptor while you can still send it back.
Perfect presentation in terms of all the particulars. This has nothing to do with speed boosters but I'm a Nikon shooter and am considering the R7 for wildlife because I want to get the mirrorless advantages. I currently use the D500 with a Nikkor 200-500 lens. The Z9 is too dang expensive and the R7 has most of the advantages. It's not an apple-to-apple comparison but the R7 would be a great alternative considering the costs. Again, great informative video. By the way, I'm sticking with my old tank, the Nikon D700 (which I love) for full frame.
DAMN IVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS SINCE THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF R7, Thanks for confirming. I guess i'll skip the R6 and get this, no IBIS wobble and no overheating to think of
Sorry man. I really haven't been using a speedbooster much after making those videos a while ago, but people have been asking me to test it on the R7. I think it's a cool option for the right situations. I've only been using my Canon speedbooster on the C70 in my studio.
Hi Josh, love your vids! Pretty much 100% of my knowledge of video shooting came from you hahah, been a long time photographer but recently getting more and more into video since owning the R7, I finally have a good hybrid so I figured I might as well get into video too. Figured I should at least give you the appreciation you deserve as I went from total rookie to getting by for small projects in no time thanks to you, small tip is the least I can do. I was so curious why your vids were so damn good but you had so little subscribers, and just saw you actually have a main channel for farming stuff, that's awesome man! It's great that you're also sharing your knowledge and skills and passing them down to others here in such a difestible format and top notch production quality. Your vids are simply the best tutorials and guides for video for the R7 on YT, I mean that! Btw, I've been thinking of buying the 16-35 based on how well the combo did here and since I already own the speedbooster. A great used offer popped up in my area for the mk ii, are you familiar with differences between the mk iii? If it's damn near close the mk iii I won't think twice, but I just don't wanna feel held back and need to upgrade to the iii down the line. I own the sigma 18-35 already, but I figured this lens with the speedbooster glued to it pretty much all the time would make a nice addition as an 11-25 f2 and wouldn't be too redundant. Also, if I ever go FF I'll have those focals covered already. Any thoughts? Thanks again, cheers!
Thank you for the support and the kind words. I would recommend the 16-35 2.8 III over the II. The III is a lot better of a lens optically. In terms of the 18-35, I wouldnt necessarily invest in the 16-35 if the 18-35 is working for you. Another nice thing about the 18-35 is the ability to use a VND adapter too. Lots of options!
This was so helpful - thanks - so we get a 18 to 40mm from this lens (fullfame equivalent) on this camera. Thats a great range. Add the other canon adapter and we can push to 56mm - fantastic 👍
I have a Metabone speedbooster.. Image quality is much than Viltrox Speedbooster.. Image quality is good, you will have more light and get a full frame view.. BUT the autofocus is not acceptable.. If they could fix autofocus, I would use it more
I am thinking to buy Tamron 45mm which has image stabilization. I will pair it with the speed booster. Does the image stabilization of the lens and IBIS still working using the speed booster PS: Great videos indeed! So usefull content about the new R7. Keep up the good work!
You're wrong man, you forgot about the camera crop. Crop 1.6 x lens 16mm x speedbooster 0.71 = 18,176mm. It's the same with bokeh 1,6 x 2,8 x 0,71 = bokeh 3,18
Please rewatch the video. I mention that the new crop factor with the speedbooster is 1.6*0.71=1.136x. This won’t be exactly the same as full frame (1.0x). You are agreeing with what I said.
does the purple circle issue only affect video or is it also evident in stills as well? Thanks for a great video and love the straightforward explanation and loving the content! Subscribed :)
You're welcome! I haven't tested it with photo. I don't do much photography in general. I would assume it could happen with photo too since it's caused by the optics in the speedbooster. Thanks for watching!
Does purple spot only appear when there is sunlight hitting the front of the lens? Seems like all yoir examples show direct flare? With a good gobo to block light will the purple flare go away?
You're welcome. A RF-RF speedbooster is not possible. The only reason you can have a EF-RF speedbooster is because of the extra flange distance when using EF lenses.
I ithink you have to multiply the crop factor first...so 16mm x 1,6=25,6 then 25,6 x 0,71=18,176...16mm is 18,176mm in a crop 1,6 camera with a speedbooster 0,71...i think
The Viltrox EF-R3 has some lens compatibility issues. For instance when I tried the Rokinon Cine T1.5 EF lenses, they just failed to work. The R7 would not allow you to press the shutter button. IBIS also seemed to be switched off for some lenses, like the cheapo Yonguno 35mm. In general the speedbooster worked great on Canon glass. For instance, the Canon nifty 50 was vastly improved in terms of autofocus (due to the R7 I think) and the IBIS made it a useful lens (compared to the 50mm f1.4 which was my go to) - I don't see a firmware update for the speedbooster as yet.. so there might be hope for non-Canon lenses
Quick workaround : Put some tape or nail polish on the contacts on your lens. You'll be able to use it on the viltrox. It's a known problem regarding manual lenses.
@@milkrobotics what do you mean by lens "failed to work"? You mean autofocus? what kind of problems should the software update solve, and has this update appeared at the moment? These questions are very important to me, because considering switching to r7 + speedbooster. Thanks!
@@randomperson65 The R7 refused to work - period - you couldn't even take a picture - apparently there is hack with masking tape to at least take a picture - Now there might be a Viltrox firmware update as well as an R7 firmware update that might fix the issue - but I don't have access to the lens anymore
Josh a lot of information I'll have to study. I shoot 90% indoor basketball and volleyball. going from a canon 7D using a Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 EX DC OS HSM Lens for Canon EF and Sigma 50-150 F2.8 DC HSM both OS and AF. I'm getting a Canon R7 and what do I NEED to connect these lens to that Canon R7
How does the 24-105 ef lens looks on this camera with the speed booster? Would love to see a video with that lens on this camera with the speed booster. And how is the speed boaster for photography, image quality wise? Do you think it would be something useful for weddings? Or will the image quality suffer to much from the speed booster? Let me know. Thanks.
Unfortunately I don't have that lens to test. I don't do much photography as I mainly focus on video, but I think you could get a good estimate of it based on the side by side image quality comparison of speedbooster vs straight through adapter in this video. They look pretty similar to me. Thanks for watching!
@@Josh_Sattin yeah, I couldn’t tell the difference in image quality for video at all. Other then that the image seemed to have more contrast, and the issue of a purple flare. Thanks for responding. 👍
I have a R10 and bought the EF-R3 Pro speedbooster. The aperture and focal length translation do not work, the camera will show the original lens values. To make matters worse, Viltrox removed the firmware updates for this adapter from its site and is listing this adapter as “discontinued” because of Canon legal action I suppose, so I’m not very hopeful it will ever work properly with this camera. I tried it with camera firmware 1.1.0 and 1.2.0, and both don’t work. However, in spite of not translating the values, the lens still work properly, AF also works. However, it seems that a speedbooster is far from a silver bullet, as several lenses will not focus beyond a certain distance.
Does the Canon speed booster run into the same issue as the Viltrox in terms of flare and image washout? I'm excited to learn of the speed booster. I have an R7 and would love to pick up a 16-35 2.8L and have the benefit of an extra stop and an 18mm focal length for astrophotography. It would be great to hear if the drawback is limited to Viltrox but the extra cost in the Canon booster also gives a clean result without the issue. Thank you
Would rather pick a R7 or a A7C for indoor video shooting of people, content creation, photos? I can't decide on these two cameras. I know R7 has better video specs, but A7C offers more lenses option. And I actually have an Canon SL3 (250D) and the problem I find is to record people in small rooms, even using a 24mm f2.8 it's difficult to fit them whole body on screen. Do you have any suggestions for me? Great video by the way
IBIS seems to work for me too so far. I have an EF 24-105mm f/4 IS L and that seems to be working too. My 70-200 f/2.8 IS II comes tomorrow and I expect everything with IBIS + Lens IS to work the same.
Hello, Thanks for so many good tests on the R7! Your videos on it are so helpful for me as I consider it for a B Cam. Any chance you can test the overheating with a power delivery external power bank? Or if you have any insights on overheating with external power source? Thanks!
hi.i really appreciated the info you shared. regarding the purple circle, flares and overall lost of contrast using the speed booster, wouldn't a cal filter help in that regard?
Thank you for this video! Very informative and helpful! I'm considering buying a Canon r7, and I'm unsure if my computer will handle s-log 3 4k fine. Is there any chance you know where I could download a sample video? It would help me a lot.
Hi, thanks for sharing this video about the speedbooster autofocus. I also see you do a lot of comparison videos and you are a rare youtuber talking about speedbooster so I was wondering If you could compare less expensive cameras of same price range like the famous Eos R vs R10 + speedbooster, please? Specially autofocus and dynamic range. Hope you will read this message, cheers
I have my doubts that post-processing tools will recognize (or properly process) a speed-boosted lens combo. Manual fixes - yes. But nothing specific to the combo. If this is the case, you're on your own to align color channels. Of course, shooting video-only, a speed-boosted L-lens isn't going to show much chromatic aberration. Personally, I'd go with the full-frame R6II -- same lenses without third-party boost distortions -- and also produces excellent still photos!
Hey Josh, I have been recently starting to watch your video and to be honest you have answered a lot of my questions, but I do have quick question about the R7. My question is how long does the R7 record on FHD mode, and also between R7 and the sony a7iv which one you is best in your opinion, I know that this question they prob have nothing to do with the video I’m really wondering. Thanks for your answer
How long you can record will depend on how big your memory card is. See pages 13-14: downloads.canon.com/notthistime/cameras/better/EOSR7_specifications-5-22.pdf Those are very different cameras and it will depend on what you need the camera for. I really like both of them. Thanks for watching!
Hi Josh great info. Question to you, does this help improve ISO performance? I used my r7 on bird photography and I have theEF600mm F4L Mark II and for F4 does it become F2.8 :) I am really curious
Thanks. Yes, the speedbooster will give you an extra stop of light, letting you lower your ISO by one stop. You will lose most of the extra reach though that you would normally be getting with your R7's APSC sensor.
There is no free lunch, you will gain light with the equal loss of focal length. A 600mm f/4 on a 1.6 body will give you 960mm f/6.3. A 600mm f/4 on a FF is a 600mm f/4. A 600mm f/4 on a 1.6 crop body and a speed booster will give you a 614mm f/4. The conversation factor is pretty close with the speed booster but still approximate. 14mm is hardly noticeable at this focal length. Think of it like a 600mm f/4. But with more optical degradation and a loss in T-Stop. The transmitted light. So much better to get a FF if you want a 600mm f/4 focal length and aperture. You get the most of your glass that way. If you want more focal length, an extender or 1.6 crop body will do the trick.
@@johnrus7661 hi John,?I’m very curious and I believe I understood you clearly that my R7 on a EF 800mm F5.6 is actually not F5.6 due to my crop body? I have never used a FF body so my crop body on EF glasses probably not giving me the said Fstop on the lens.
@@Mr48374837 Your EF 800mm f/5.6 is gonna be the equivalent to a 1280mm f/9 DOF and focal length. But of course your aperture is still gonna have a brightness f/5.6 but over a smaller area. Due to the smaller sensor you will also loose about 1 1/3rd stops of noise performance compared the equivalent FF. So in the end you can use a smaller sensor gain focal length, gain DOF but lose noise performance. Compared that to using a FF with an extender to increase focal length, increase DOF but loose ligh, but with the extra noise performance you can bump up the ISO. You end up in the same place just going about it two different ways. In optics there is no free lunch. Only way to improve this ratio of reach to noise performance and IQ is better sensor tech or a bigger lens. But you got the very best lens for sharpness and overall reach. It's a dream lens and enjoy it!
Hello Josh, great video like always. May you give me an advice. I own the C70 and need a B- and travel-cam. Which one would you choose? The R7, the R6 or the upcoming R6 mark ii?
Thanks! I always say, buy the camera that you need now, not what might be coming down the road. There will always be new cameras coming out. The R6 II is just a rumor anyways. If you are more video focused I would say R7 over the R6.
You can't put RF lenses on a speedbooster, it is made for EF lenses. Also, you wouldn't want to use a EF-S since it is a crop sensor lens and you need to be using a full frame lens.
Interesting…i see the bokeh on the speed booster was more akin to having a narrower depth of field…. You noted you had the settings at 35mm 2.8. The speed booster not only did NOT look like 2.0 depth of field, but looked more like 4.0… curious why that is? (I’m sure it’s just math…. But that was an unanticipated result… not a pleasant one, either…..)
I have a canon 500 4.0ii lens will the R7 with the speed booster see this lens as a full frame. I like the idea of one more stop of light however I like the 1.6 crop factor for more length
Does the speed booster only work with the APS-C Sensor or can I use it on my EOS R which has a full size sensor but a terrible crop factor. I have heard the canon speedbooster only works with the APS-C or Super 35 sensor.
I haven't tried it with the R, but if it did work that would be great to counteract the huge 4K crop. I did try it on the R5 in crop mode and it worked.
EF-R3 is not compatible with the Canon R7 latest firmware. Just got one, and the F-stop shows F0 with all my Canon EF lenses.The camera doesn't do anything.
Greetings from Canada! Tbh I've been following your EOS R7 videos since you've been testing them in a videographer pov. I've been racking my brain if I should settle with an EOS R7 or invest for an EOS R6. I already have a few EF L lenses, I don't do wildlife but more like landscape and portraits. Recently I've been participating in our church's video production team. Which one would you recommend? EOS R7 or R6?
Hey there! If you are shooting in 4K then I would definitely go for the R7. The overheating on the R6 is no joke and they didn't fix it with this latest round of firmware updates. I don't know much about the 1080p in these cameras as I only shoot in 4K these days. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching the videos!
This is my first time visiting this channel, thx a lot for this great video but I got confused , may I ask, is the speedbooster only for an ef lens? I cant put a RF lens on it ? like the RF85mm F2 MACRO,sorry if I asked a dumb question,I'm new, thx a lot !
Yes this speedbooster will attach to an RF mount camera and accept an EF lens. If you'd like to learn more about speedboosters, please check out this video: czcams.com/video/7E7jKZq7VyA/video.html
@@Josh_Sattin watched the whole video , thx. sorry for asking again since english isn't my first language and I have trouble understanding all the information in that video ,the speed booster can only be used for an ef lens ,right ? thx again 🥰
Thanks for the nice videol. I don't know about the Viltrox but as for Canon's Speed booster, I confirmed with Canon's head office about it, and they confirmed that the Speed booster does make the image one step brighter, but the bokeh in the photo is still the same as the bokeh from the crop sensor. I asked several times but this is for sure. So as you menetion acout the depth of field, Will the bokeh be different with the Viltrox? If so, I think Viltrox is a better speed booster than Canon.
You're welcome. The Viltrox and the Canon speedbooster will essentially work identically. Yes, the bokeh (depth of field) will be the same, but since you now have a wider field of view you can move the camera closer to the subject, thus increasing the bokeh (more shallow depth of field). I'd recommend you re-watch this video and maybe my other video on speedboosters to help you understand this a bit better. Thanks for watching!
@@Josh_Sattin Thanks for the reply I understand what you mean. But I was litlle upset because I thought F2.8 lens will have F2.8 and it was pretty expensive but Canon Cinema EOS conrimed that with the speed booster its technically F4.2 bokeh even I use F2.8 lens..
You have to use full frame EF lenses with the speedbooster. EF-S lenses are for crop sensors. Their image circle won’t cover the sensor when used with the speedbooster.
Keep in mind that the crop factor 1.6 applys also to the F-stop. So basicly you get and extra stop of light but not quite. It will become the real F-stop as in a ff camera.
@@Thefuror38500 Yes it does, it is intertwined. If you decrease the focal length you gain brightness. If you increase focal length you decrease brightness. In the case of a conversion factor of a crop body. You increase the DOF by approximately 1 1/3 stops. And you also lose light, rather than a decrease in brightness like an extender you lose noise performance by approximately 1 1/3 stops as well. There is no free lunch in optics.
@@johnrus7661 The first part is absolutely correct, however, the second is not. All other things being equal (pixel size& technology of the sensor, distance to subject), if you move from an FF to a 1.6x crop sensor, the only thing that change is the FoV, that is smaller. DOF, brightness, noise performance is the same. You just record a smaller part of the exact same image circle. I know what you mean, that in most of situation, you'll want the same FoV, so you'll either use a smaller focal length or move backyard, both increasing DOF, and aps-c sensor tend to have smaller pixels, that carry lower SNR compared to bigger ones (given same technology of sensors, of course) I know that it is a bit nitpicking, but there is so many people out there that think that a crop factor actually increase the focal length (in the physical sense), or decrease the amount of light being collected. For example, a Sony A7R4 use an IMX455 (FF, 61Mpx, 3.76um pixels), and Fuji XT-3 an IMX571 (aps-c, 26MPx with 3.76um pixels), both being sensors of the same generation and tecnhlogie, they'll behave the same when it come to noise, regardless of the sensor size (unless the camera itself got flawed electronics...). They'll also capture the exact same detail size, so you are not gaining any "reach" with the aps-c one. But many people will have that wrong because of oversimplification and photographer not caring enough about physic (I don't think you are one of them tho)
@@johnrus7661 and btw, the approximation you give are quite correct for most real life situations indeed, the important point is just to keep in mind that they are approximation, with assumption, and if used outside of the assumption, they can lead to wrong results :)
@@Thefuror38500 No it's not this is basic photography 1 oh 1 when you use 1.6 crop sensor you are increasing depth the field you are decreasing noise performance and everything else. You do not get a free launch using a 1.6 crop sensors. Read up if you think I'm wrong. I've been shooting for over 15 years I know what I'm talking about. And this is got nothing to do with pixel size that's a whole other conversation that's unrelated to this one.
Hi Josh! great video. What about noise? Do you get lower noise with the speedbooster at high ISO? I know that normally in fullframe the noise is a lot less noticeable than in a crop sensor
Thanks! Noise is independent of using a speedbooster. That is determined mostly by the sensor size and the ISO. There are other variables like pixel density, oversampling, noise reduction etc. The one thing that the speedbooster can do to help with noise is that you get an extra stop of light so you can lower your ISO by one stop in low light situations. These two videos (which are in the description) will help you understand this further: Canon Speedbooster (Everything You Need To Know) - czcams.com/video/7E7jKZq7VyA/video.html Crop Sensors - czcams.com/video/Qcdtq3N6yQI/video.html
I have the 16-35mm f2.8 L II and when i zoom in to 16mm with the Viltrox EF-R3 on my Canon R7 is see 16mm in the viewfinder, the same is true when I go to 35mm. If I set the camera to F2.8, that is what I see in the viewfinder. I’m running the latest version of firmware on my R7. Do I need to update the software on the speedbooster?
Great video! I recently bought a Canon 24-70 2.8 Mk1 with my R7 and Vilrox speedbooster. I expected to be able to set the the f/ to 2 but it will not go lower than 2.8. Any advice?
Hey there. I have the EF 24-70 2.8 MK2 with the viltrox and i have a similar issue most the time. My adapter does not recalculate the aperture and focal lenght to the camera. Reattaching both to the camera usually fixes that issue and i thing low temperatures are also increasing that problem.
Great Video! One Question: Does the 2.0 aperture of the 16 -35 on the R7 also correspond to an aperture of 2.0 on a real full frame camera ? So also in the blurred background.
In terms of light, yes. In terms of depth of field no. You can't change the F2.8 aperture of the lens. With the speedbooster and the R7 set at F2.0, it will be similar to F2.8 on a full frame camera in terms of depth of field. But not exactly the same because of the new 1.136x crop factor. Hope that makes sense.
Hi josh, i have tried the speedboster on my R7 with the nifty 50 and It does not go down from 1.8 to 1.2 and same with a tamron 24-70 2.8, it shows 2.8 and it does not let me go down to 2.0 Is there any updates on the speedboster or something that I have to set on camera? Thanks and keep it up with these awesome videos
Actually yes. Remembering that with a speed booster you'll have to get closer to your subject than with a standard adaptor so you'll create a shallower DoF with the same subject framing.
Yes you can charge the 2.8 on the lens. If you're increasing the FoV but keeping the physical size of the aperture the same it will increase the Fstop value.
Great video. So in terms of Bokeh. I understand that the F2.8 speed boosted to F2.0 on a crop sensor will still give you the Bokeh of F2.8 on Full Frame. But doesn't full frame provide more Bokeh at 2.8 than a crop sensor at 2.8? So is it true that a speed boosted F2.8 on a crop sensor would give you more of a an F2.0 level of Bokeh on a crop sensor for the distance? If not, then it seems the advantage is limited to light and FOV but not bokeh for speedboosted vs non speedboosted for the same lense at the same distance (you can't always move closer)
Hello, Does Speedbooster adapt with ND filter and which one can I buy ? Do you recommend me speedbooster as a Wedding photographer ? and Which lens do you recommend me for this kind of things? Thank you for all your videos, Much love from France !
You're welcome! You would need an ND filter that screws on the front of your lens. You can use whatever you would like. I made a video comparing a few of them: czcams.com/video/RqUcaDNl-7g/video.html I have never shot a wedding and I mostly focus on video so I don't feel qualified to recommend a lens for wedding photography. Thanks for watching!
What lens in your opinion is worth adapting with speedbooster on R7 for people already own full frame RF bodies like R5 and R6? I could only think of short tele photo lens like 70-200f2.8 or prime like 85IS. For everything else, just use a vanilla EF-RF Canon adapter with your full frame camera. For people owning multiple EF L quality lenses, I assume they have jumped to R5 bandwagon by now.
I wouldn't buy a R7 and a speedbooster if you have a R5 or R6 unless there are specific features you prefer on the R7. Having a crop sensor camera can be helpful for sports and wildlife photography since you get extra reach with your lenses. But there are lots of other factors too depending on how you use your camera.
@@frankluo230 For sure. It all depends on what you shoot. For me, I am generally using either a 16-35 or 24-70 so the speedbooster can be very handy. It's tough to get a decent wide lens on a APSC camera sometimes.
Is there any "pure reducer" but NOT "reducer + adaptor" so that I can use RF-mount 24-70mm L full-frame lens on R7 and still make the focal length range (approx.) 24-70mm?
Unfortunately that is not physically possible. The only reason the reducer is possible is because you need that space in between the EF lens and RF mount.
how how does the R7 + speed booser ISO performace compare with R6.. I suppoe a propper test in all aspects of the Canon R7+ speedbooster vs Canon would be great. is you want to make that video. Keep in mind eye tracking of subject moving from sunlight into shade and moving also. So the focsung/tracking and ISO performance in video and photo.
@@Josh_Sattin I want to figure out if I can use the R7+speedbooster for professional wedding photography. Photo+Video. Or rather stick to the R6. I prefer the R7 for most of my personal photography but my wedding photography needs first priority. I need to know R6 vs R7 with speed booster with a 70-200mm lens on the following aspects for photo and video: - ISO performance under lowlight conditions. - Focus tracking of moving subject close and far. and from in the sun to a shaded area towards the camera and just horizontal - image quality - Canon speedbooster vs viltrox speedbooster vs R6 for all scenarios mentioned. In other words is the R7 with a speedbooster as good as an R6 for portrate and wedding photography/videography and other full frame photography use. Would be a good video to make I think.
@@whb247 As I said, I have never used a R6 so I can't really give you good advice here and can't answer your questions. That being said, if I was 100% photo then I would probably go with the R6 for the full frame sensor. If there is video involved, it's a bit more complicated.
Best R7 series on YT right now, hands down. Keep going bro, appreciate all your hard work!
Have an R6 right now, looking forward to upgrading to an R5C or whatever newer cines come out in the future.
Thank you for the kind words and for watching!
The big photography question, of course, is how do you keep your cat from blocking the monitor when you're trying to learn stuff from a CZcams video? Cats have an extremely high Block Factor that dramatically reduces the useful resolution of even a high-quality monitor.
A little more seriously, I got some interesting info from this video (the parts that I could see) and since I'm thinking about getting an R7, it's timely info too. Thanks!
I will not buy more cameras, I will not buy more cameras, I will not....... It's nice to have options to use the full frame lenses.
Haha. It's only a matter of time Rafael...
Well said. Many people think that APS cameras make image darker, even some CZcamsrs.
the amount of information you give is amazing, thanks dont change your way of teaching
I appreciate the kind words. Thanks for watching!
4:25 actually I think you CAN use sigma 18-35 F1.8 with the speedbooster because that lens while being an APSC lens, has a image circle big enough to cover a fullframe sensor from around 20mm( if I remember correctly), I've tested it out with my Sony A7iii and EF mount film cameras. even at 18mm the image circle still covers like 80% of the frame. So with the roughly 1.14 crop factor your speedbooster provides, you might just cancel out the vignette at 18mm !!
@@sonacphotos yes absolutely, I think by cropping in slightly you could eliminate any vignette left.
It has a bad vignette in 4k fine, but no vignette in pixel to pixel 4k 60
Has anyone tried this? I really want to try out this combo
Yes, I tried it with the Fujifilm xt3 and it works. Just be careful not to zoom too far out
Is this works with efs 17-55？
Got my day-1 R7, pass-through adapter, and speed booster adapter. Really opens up the possibilities with full-frame EF glass. It's like having 2 lenses in 1. More reach with the regular adapter and more FF-like with the speed booster. The speed booster works with the Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8. There will be correctable vignetting zoomed in at ~24mm or more (requires cropping at wider FOVs), but it allows you to shoot video in 4k crop mode @ 60 fps without losing as much of the FOV (1.81x0.71=1.285) or resorting to line-skipping mode.
Hi, can you tell if the IBIS works with speedbooster on? I see conflicting messages on the Internet. Thanks!
I have a Viltrox speedometer for my M50, works very well. I just need more FF glass to justify getting one for my R7.
One of the most ‘pleasant to watch’ youtubers 💪💪
Thank you so much!
I second that, I love this guy! Very articulate and easy to listen to. 👍🏾👍🏾
Waiting for my Metabones to arrive. Very interested to see for myself. On the R7, your 500mm F4 becomes a FF 550mm equivalent with the light gathering ability of an F2.8 and the apparent DOF of F4 . It is like having a second camera body.
BTW, a speedbooster reduces focal length. F stop is a function of lens area and focal length. So the F stop goes up one stop for real. A CF camera gives you a one stop increase look in terms of DOF. The speedbooster brings it back one. Thank you for your great explanation
I could cry tears of joy! Best video on this topic! Answered all my questions with an explanation! New sub!
Hey Josh. I just wanted to thank you for this video.
I found it a few months ago while i was still waiting for my r7 and was thinking about future options in terms of lenses. I now own the r7 with the viltrox speedbooster (happy i still got one seeing how canon restricts third party manufacturers) and a canon rf 24-70 II L and i just love the combo.
One thing that i have noticed is that most of the time my adapter doesnt calculate the new focal lenght and aperture. Re attaching the lens and adapter usually fixes that, but still more often than not it does not do the math. Doesnt affect anything else but still annoying.
Thank you for this speedbooster review. Very well explained. Thank again. Great content. 👍🏻☀️🏝🌊📸🌋🌴☕☕☕
You are very welcome. Thanks for watching!
I've got one of these speed boosters and I used it once - the image degradation was totally unacceptable on my daily driver lens - a 28-70 F2.8 L lens. Sorry but I would strongly recommend thoroughly testing this adaptor while you can still send it back.
I just bought the Meike version and I can't wait to its arrival.
How is it?
@@mysabahTV it is great, it works perfectly and optically is very good too; I'm very happy with it.
@@joaovtaveira Thank you
The Viltrox R3-Pro has an EF positive lock and better mounting for cages. It's worth the extra over the base R3 booster.
Cool! Yeah I've heard about that from a friend of mine. This is the one that Viltrox sent me so I've been using it.
An excellent understanding of the technical factors at play.
Perfect presentation in terms of all the particulars. This has nothing to do with speed boosters but I'm a Nikon shooter and am considering the R7 for wildlife because I want to get the mirrorless advantages. I currently use the D500 with a Nikkor 200-500 lens. The Z9 is too dang expensive and the R7 has most of the advantages. It's not an apple-to-apple comparison but the R7 would be a great alternative considering the costs. Again, great informative video. By the way, I'm sticking with my old tank, the Nikon D700 (which I love) for full frame.
Bro I love your video, very detailed and well made! Thank you!
You are very welcome. Thanks for watching!
DAMN IVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS SINCE THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF R7, Thanks for confirming. I guess i'll skip the R6 and get this, no IBIS wobble and no overheating to think of
solid R7 content coming from you. appreciated
Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much for these R7 videos. Mine arrives tomorrow & I have a ton to learn. You are giving me confidence. New fan & subscriber!
You're welcome. Enjoy the R7 and thanks for watching!
Dammit Josh! You talked me out of the speed booster in your other video and now I’m considering the Viltrox. 😂
Sorry man. I really haven't been using a speedbooster much after making those videos a while ago, but people have been asking me to test it on the R7. I think it's a cool option for the right situations. I've only been using my Canon speedbooster on the C70 in my studio.
@@Josh_Sattin just giving you hard time. I appreciate your awesome content. 😀
Haha! I know! Thanks for the kind words and for watching!
Thank you so much Josh! Very helpful and informative video for me! God bless you and good luck!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Great job et good explications
Thank you
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching!
I’m so bummed that Canon has nixed the third party speed boosters.
Hi Josh, love your vids! Pretty much 100% of my knowledge of video shooting came from you hahah, been a long time photographer but recently getting more and more into video since owning the R7, I finally have a good hybrid so I figured I might as well get into video too. Figured I should at least give you the appreciation you deserve as I went from total rookie to getting by for small projects in no time thanks to you, small tip is the least I can do.
I was so curious why your vids were so damn good but you had so little subscribers, and just saw you actually have a main channel for farming stuff, that's awesome man! It's great that you're also sharing your knowledge and skills and passing them down to others here in such a difestible format and top notch production quality. Your vids are simply the best tutorials and guides for video for the R7 on YT, I mean that!
Btw, I've been thinking of buying the 16-35 based on how well the combo did here and since I already own the speedbooster. A great used offer popped up in my area for the mk ii, are you familiar with differences between the mk iii? If it's damn near close the mk iii I won't think twice, but I just don't wanna feel held back and need to upgrade to the iii down the line.
I own the sigma 18-35 already, but I figured this lens with the speedbooster glued to it pretty much all the time would make a nice addition as an 11-25 f2 and wouldn't be too redundant. Also, if I ever go FF I'll have those focals covered already. Any thoughts?
Thanks again, cheers!
Thank you for the support and the kind words. I would recommend the 16-35 2.8 III over the II. The III is a lot better of a lens optically. In terms of the 18-35, I wouldnt necessarily invest in the 16-35 if the 18-35 is working for you. Another nice thing about the 18-35 is the ability to use a VND adapter too. Lots of options!
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Tons of great info! Thank you! 🙌🏻🙏🏻
Yeahhh I think imma get the r7 to pair up with my Eos R.
Great and useful video , thank you so much the tests
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
have you ever test the sigma 18-35 with speedboster on r7?
Hi! Does anybody know where I can get the firmware update for the viltrox speedbooster? Thanks
Another problem is the quality of corner side, You should remind the seedbooster can be good for some kind of lenses but not to every lens.
Excellent review....it would be nice to see photography image to download and compare with a R5 as an example....
This was so helpful - thanks - so we get a 18 to 40mm from this lens (fullfame equivalent) on this camera. Thats a great range. Add the other canon adapter and we can push to 56mm - fantastic 👍
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
@@Josh_Sattin you explained it and presented it better than Id seen before. Well done
Thank you for the kind words!
I have a Metabone speedbooster.. Image quality is much than Viltrox Speedbooster.. Image quality is good, you will have more light and get a full frame view..
BUT the autofocus is not acceptable.. If they could fix autofocus, I would use it more
I am thinking to buy Tamron 45mm which has image stabilization. I will pair it with the speed booster. Does the image stabilization of the lens and IBIS still working using the speed booster
PS: Great videos indeed! So usefull content about the new R7. Keep up the good work!
I haven't tested that combination so I can't say about the stabilization. Glad you are enjoying the videos and thanks for watching!
You're wrong man, you forgot about the camera crop. Crop 1.6 x lens 16mm x speedbooster 0.71 = 18,176mm. It's the same with bokeh 1,6 x 2,8 x 0,71 = bokeh 3,18
Please rewatch the video. I mention that the new crop factor with the speedbooster is 1.6*0.71=1.136x. This won’t be exactly the same as full frame (1.0x). You are agreeing with what I said.
Anyone know about distortion from the booster? (Or color fringe) Specifically for star points in astrophotography
How the speedbooster works with the ibis?
does the purple circle issue only affect video or is it also evident in stills as well? Thanks for a great video and love the straightforward explanation and loving the content! Subscribed :)
You're welcome! I haven't tested it with photo. I don't do much photography in general. I would assume it could happen with photo too since it's caused by the optics in the speedbooster. Thanks for watching!
Does purple spot only appear when there is sunlight hitting the front of the lens? Seems like all yoir examples show direct flare? With a good gobo to block light will the purple flare go away?
Thanks Josh for the great content. Do we have the same booster adapter for RF lenses?
You're welcome. A RF-RF speedbooster is not possible. The only reason you can have a EF-RF speedbooster is because of the extra flange distance when using EF lenses.
@@Josh_Sattin thanks Josh!
The Canon R7 is everything I wanted the Canon 90D and Canon 80D to be
I ithink you have to multiply the crop factor first...so 16mm x 1,6=25,6 then 25,6 x 0,71=18,176...16mm is 18,176mm in a crop 1,6 camera with a speedbooster 0,71...i think
The Viltrox EF-R3 has some lens compatibility issues. For instance when I tried the Rokinon Cine T1.5 EF lenses, they just failed to work. The R7 would not allow you to press the shutter button. IBIS also seemed to be switched off for some lenses, like the cheapo Yonguno 35mm. In general the speedbooster worked great on Canon glass. For instance, the Canon nifty 50 was vastly improved in terms of autofocus (due to the R7 I think) and the IBIS made it a useful lens (compared to the 50mm f1.4 which was my go to) - I don't see a firmware update for the speedbooster as yet.. so there might be hope for non-Canon lenses
Quick workaround : Put some tape or nail polish on the contacts on your lens. You'll be able to use it on the viltrox. It's a known problem regarding manual lenses.
@@fabthefab75 Thanks for the tip
@@milkrobotics what do you mean by lens "failed to work"? You mean autofocus? what kind of problems should the software update solve, and has this update appeared at the moment? These questions are very important to me, because considering switching to r7 + speedbooster. Thanks!
@@randomperson65 The R7 refused to work - period - you couldn't even take a picture - apparently there is hack with masking tape to at least take a picture - Now there might be a Viltrox firmware update as well as an R7 firmware update that might fix the issue - but I don't have access to the lens anymore
Josh a lot of information I'll have to study. I shoot 90% indoor basketball and volleyball. going from a canon 7D using a Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 EX DC OS HSM Lens for Canon EF and Sigma 50-150 F2.8 DC HSM both OS and AF. I'm getting a Canon R7 and what do I NEED to connect these lens to that Canon R7
How does the 24-105 ef lens looks on this camera with the speed booster? Would love to see a video with that lens on this camera with the speed booster. And how is the speed boaster for photography, image quality wise? Do you think it would be something useful for weddings? Or will the image quality suffer to much from the speed booster? Let me know. Thanks.
Unfortunately I don't have that lens to test. I don't do much photography as I mainly focus on video, but I think you could get a good estimate of it based on the side by side image quality comparison of speedbooster vs straight through adapter in this video. They look pretty similar to me. Thanks for watching!
@@Josh_Sattin yeah, I couldn’t tell the difference in image quality for video at all. Other then that the image seemed to have more contrast, and the issue of a purple flare. Thanks for responding. 👍
I have a R10 and bought the EF-R3 Pro speedbooster. The aperture and focal length translation do not work, the camera will show the original lens values. To make matters worse, Viltrox removed the firmware updates for this adapter from its site and is listing this adapter as “discontinued” because of Canon legal action I suppose, so I’m not very hopeful it will ever work properly with this camera. I tried it with camera firmware 1.1.0 and 1.2.0, and both don’t work.
However, in spite of not translating the values, the lens still work properly, AF also works. However, it seems that a speedbooster is far from a silver bullet, as several lenses will not focus beyond a certain distance.
Still waiting for someone to try the auto horizon-level feature in video!
Does the Canon speed booster run into the same issue as the Viltrox in terms of flare and image washout? I'm excited to learn of the speed booster. I have an R7 and would love to pick up a 16-35 2.8L and have the benefit of an extra stop and an 18mm focal length for astrophotography. It would be great to hear if the drawback is limited to Viltrox but the extra cost in the Canon booster also gives a clean result without the issue. Thank you
Hi josh theres a new Canon RF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-6.3 IS STM
Pls make a review on it.
Thanks
Would rather pick a R7 or a A7C for indoor video shooting of people, content creation, photos? I can't decide on these two cameras. I know R7 has better video specs, but A7C offers more lenses option. And I actually have an Canon SL3 (250D) and the problem I find is to record people in small rooms, even using a 24mm f2.8 it's difficult to fit them whole body on screen. Do you have any suggestions for me? Great video by the way
Thank you so much for video, got R10 just like change for R7. Canon version speedbooster, No where to buy due canon think they own the market....
👍🏾👍🏾Very Excellent, Josh, thanks for sharing this, my Brother!!!
Great content as always. Does the speed booster affect the IBIS on the R7?
Thank you! IBIS seems to work as it usually does with the speedbooster. I do not have an EF lens with IS to test out the lens stabilization though.
@@Josh_Sattin that's super helpful thanks for etting me know. Wedding Filmmakers rejoice 🤙
IBIS seems to work for me too so far. I have an EF 24-105mm f/4 IS L and that seems to be working too. My 70-200 f/2.8 IS II comes tomorrow and I expect everything with IBIS + Lens IS to work the same.
Hello, Thanks for so many good tests on the R7! Your videos on it are so helpful for me as I consider it for a B Cam. Any chance you can test the overheating with a power delivery external power bank? Or if you have any insights on overheating with external power source? Thanks!
hi.i really appreciated the info you shared. regarding the purple circle, flares and overall lost of contrast using the speed booster, wouldn't a cal filter help in that regard?
Great video! Why dont just buy a full frame camera in the first place like a secondhand eos R. That would cost about the same.
2:46 some red outline around your cap with the speedbooser. does this shop up often?
Thank you for this video! Very informative and helpful! I'm considering buying a Canon r7, and I'm unsure if my computer will handle s-log 3 4k fine. Is there any chance you know where I could download a sample video? It would help me a lot.
hey. did you get a video sample? if not i can provide you
@@FordSierraIS HI. Thanks! Somebody sent me a few samples, but now I'm thinking about that new sony fx30 :)
Hi, thanks for sharing this video about the speedbooster autofocus. I also see you do a lot of comparison videos and you are a rare youtuber talking about speedbooster so I was wondering If you could compare less expensive cameras of same price range like the famous Eos R vs R10 + speedbooster, please? Specially autofocus and dynamic range. Hope you will read this message, cheers
How does using a speed booster interact with raw file conversion? Especially where the tool can apply lens corrections like DXO pure raw?
I have my doubts that post-processing tools will recognize (or properly process) a speed-boosted lens combo. Manual fixes - yes. But nothing specific to the combo. If this is the case, you're on your own to align color channels. Of course, shooting video-only, a speed-boosted L-lens isn't going to show much chromatic aberration. Personally, I'd go with the full-frame R6II -- same lenses without third-party boost distortions -- and also produces excellent still photos!
If only Canon would make its speedbooster for the c70 officially compatible with the r7.
Nice video, what about in body stabilization ? Is it working with speedbooster ?
Thank you! IBIS seems to work as it usually does with the speedbooster. I do not have an EF lens with IS to test out the lens stabilization though.
Hey Josh, I have been recently starting to watch your video and to be honest you have answered a lot of my questions, but I do have quick question about the R7. My question is how long does the R7 record on FHD mode, and also between R7 and the sony a7iv which one you is best in your opinion, I know that this question they prob have nothing to do with the video I’m really wondering. Thanks for your answer
How long you can record will depend on how big your memory card is. See pages 13-14: downloads.canon.com/notthistime/cameras/better/EOSR7_specifications-5-22.pdf
Those are very different cameras and it will depend on what you need the camera for. I really like both of them. Thanks for watching!
@@Josh_Sattin Thanks for the document.
Hi Josh great info. Question to you, does this help improve ISO performance? I used my r7 on bird photography and I have theEF600mm F4L Mark II and for F4 does it become F2.8 :) I am really curious
Thanks. Yes, the speedbooster will give you an extra stop of light, letting you lower your ISO by one stop. You will lose most of the extra reach though that you would normally be getting with your R7's APSC sensor.
There is no free lunch, you will gain light with the equal loss of focal length.
A 600mm f/4 on a 1.6 body will give you 960mm f/6.3.
A 600mm f/4 on a FF is a 600mm f/4.
A 600mm f/4 on a 1.6 crop body and a speed booster will give you a 614mm f/4. The conversation factor is pretty close with the speed booster but still approximate. 14mm is hardly noticeable at this focal length. Think of it like a 600mm f/4. But with more optical degradation and a loss in T-Stop. The transmitted light.
So much better to get a FF if you want a 600mm f/4 focal length and aperture. You get the most of your glass that way.
If you want more focal length, an extender or 1.6 crop body will do the trick.
@@johnrus7661 hi John,?I’m very curious and I believe I understood you clearly that my R7 on a EF 800mm F5.6 is actually not F5.6 due to my crop body? I have never used a FF body so my crop body on EF glasses probably not giving me the said Fstop on the lens.
@@Mr48374837 Your EF 800mm f/5.6 is gonna be the equivalent to a 1280mm f/9 DOF and focal length.
But of course your aperture is still gonna have a brightness f/5.6 but over a smaller area. Due to the smaller sensor you will also loose about 1 1/3rd stops of noise performance compared the equivalent FF.
So in the end you can use a smaller sensor gain focal length, gain DOF but lose noise performance. Compared that to using a FF with an extender to increase focal length, increase DOF but loose ligh, but with the extra noise performance you can bump up the ISO. You end up in the same place just going about it two different ways.
In optics there is no free lunch. Only way to improve this ratio of reach to noise performance and IQ is better sensor tech or a bigger lens. But you got the very best lens for sharpness and overall reach. It's a dream lens and enjoy it!
So what happens if you use aps c lens with speed booster on r7?
Hello Josh, great video like always. May you give me an advice. I own the C70 and need a B- and travel-cam. Which one would you choose? The R7, the R6 or the upcoming R6 mark ii?
Thanks! I always say, buy the camera that you need now, not what might be coming down the road. There will always be new cameras coming out. The R6 II is just a rumor anyways. If you are more video focused I would say R7 over the R6.
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hi josh, can you paired it with ef 24 -105mm f4 lens with R7, I problem with blurred images. I NEED HELP
Some guys have modded RFS lens mounts to fit speedboosters. What dya think about this?
You can't put RF lenses on a speedbooster, it is made for EF lenses. Also, you wouldn't want to use a EF-S since it is a crop sensor lens and you need to be using a full frame lens.
@Josh_Sattin sorry, typo there, I meant to say EF-S, not RFS.
why you only has 6k sub that's insanely low for the value you provide! I sense vibes of Gerald Undone in front of his teleprompter.
Thank you for the kind words.
Interesting…i see the bokeh on the speed booster was more akin to having a narrower depth of field…. You noted you had the settings at 35mm 2.8. The speed booster not only did NOT look like 2.0 depth of field, but looked more like 4.0… curious why that is? (I’m sure it’s just math…. But that was an unanticipated result… not a pleasant one, either…..)
Check out this video for a full explanation of speedboosters: czcams.com/video/7E7jKZq7VyA/video.html
@@Josh_Sattin - excellent feedback, Joshua. Thanks! checkin' it out
I have a canon 500 4.0ii lens will the R7 with the speed booster see this lens as a full frame. I like the idea of one more stop of light however I like the 1.6 crop factor for more length
WARNING: before you watch this, be aware that the Viltrox EF-R3 is not available for purchase anymore
Is there another option for speed booster
Does the speed booster only work with the APS-C Sensor or can I use it on my EOS R which has a full size sensor but a terrible crop factor. I have heard the canon speedbooster only works with the APS-C or Super 35 sensor.
I haven't tried it with the R, but if it did work that would be great to counteract the huge 4K crop. I did try it on the R5 in crop mode and it worked.
I use it in my EOS R. It reduces the 1,74X 4K crop fator to 1,23X crop factor. A must have to R users.
EF-R3 is not compatible with the Canon R7 latest firmware. Just got one, and the F-stop shows F0 with all my Canon EF lenses.The camera doesn't do anything.
Greetings from Canada! Tbh I've been following your EOS R7 videos since you've been testing them in a videographer pov. I've been racking my brain if I should settle with an EOS R7 or invest for an EOS R6. I already have a few EF L lenses, I don't do wildlife but more like landscape and portraits. Recently I've been participating in our church's video production team. Which one would you recommend? EOS R7 or R6?
Hey there! If you are shooting in 4K then I would definitely go for the R7. The overheating on the R6 is no joke and they didn't fix it with this latest round of firmware updates. I don't know much about the 1080p in these cameras as I only shoot in 4K these days. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching the videos!
@@Josh_Sattin I appreciate the recommendation! Looking forward to more valuable content from you!
For wildlife 4K videos (Short and sharp), which camera will you suggest between EOS 90D vs R7
How heavy is this setup? I have the 16-35mm Canon lens EF. How much lighter than a Canon 6d markii is the R7?
My R10 has a really hard time with the auto focus when i install the viltrox speed booter. And in low light it wont even take a picture.
Does it provide any assignable buttons and Wide DR picture profile?
Good morning, Is the speed booster also an RF adapter for all EF-S lenses? Thank you, have a nice day.
You need to use full frame EF lenses with the speedbooster, not crop sensor EF-S lenses.
Should I use this for sports/animal photography? Perhaps having it on a 100-400mm?
If you need another stop of light or a wider field of view, then sure. Otherwise get a longer reach without it.
This is my first time visiting this channel, thx a lot for this great video but I got confused , may I ask, is the speedbooster only for an ef lens? I cant put a RF lens on it ? like the RF85mm F2 MACRO,sorry if I asked a dumb question,I'm new, thx a lot !
Yes this speedbooster will attach to an RF mount camera and accept an EF lens. If you'd like to learn more about speedboosters, please check out this video: czcams.com/video/7E7jKZq7VyA/video.html
@@Josh_Sattin watched the whole video , thx.
sorry for asking again since english isn't my first language and I have trouble understanding all the information in that video ,the speed booster can only be used for an ef lens ,right ?
thx again 🥰
Can I get a speedbooster for my Canon 90D to use with my EF lenses?
Thanks for the nice videol. I don't know about the Viltrox but as for Canon's Speed booster, I confirmed with Canon's head office about it, and they confirmed that the Speed booster does make the image one step brighter, but the bokeh in the photo is still the same as the bokeh from the crop sensor. I asked several times but this is for sure. So as you menetion acout the depth of field, Will the bokeh be different with the Viltrox? If so, I think Viltrox is a better speed booster than Canon.
You're welcome. The Viltrox and the Canon speedbooster will essentially work identically. Yes, the bokeh (depth of field) will be the same, but since you now have a wider field of view you can move the camera closer to the subject, thus increasing the bokeh (more shallow depth of field). I'd recommend you re-watch this video and maybe my other video on speedboosters to help you understand this a bit better. Thanks for watching!
@@Josh_Sattin Thanks for the reply I understand what you mean. But I was litlle upset because I thought F2.8 lens will have F2.8 and it was pretty expensive but Canon Cinema EOS conrimed that with the speed booster its technically F4.2 bokeh even I use F2.8 lens..
You can use ef s lenses. Don't understand why you would say otherwise?
You have to use full frame EF lenses with the speedbooster. EF-S lenses are for crop sensors. Their image circle won’t cover the sensor when used with the speedbooster.
Keep in mind that the crop factor 1.6 applys also to the F-stop. So basicly you get and extra stop of light but not quite. It will become the real F-stop as in a ff camera.
No, the so called "crop factor" don't apply to F-stop....
@@Thefuror38500 Yes it does, it is intertwined.
If you decrease the focal length you gain brightness. If you increase focal length you decrease brightness.
In the case of a conversion factor of a crop body. You increase the DOF by approximately 1 1/3 stops. And you also lose light, rather than a decrease in brightness like an extender you lose noise performance by approximately 1 1/3 stops as well.
There is no free lunch in optics.
@@johnrus7661 The first part is absolutely correct, however, the second is not.
All other things being equal (pixel size& technology of the sensor, distance to subject), if you move from an FF to a 1.6x crop sensor, the only thing that change is the FoV, that is smaller.
DOF, brightness, noise performance is the same. You just record a smaller part of the exact same image circle.
I know what you mean, that in most of situation, you'll want the same FoV, so you'll either use a smaller focal length or move backyard, both increasing DOF, and aps-c sensor tend to have smaller pixels, that carry lower SNR compared to bigger ones (given same technology of sensors, of course)
I know that it is a bit nitpicking, but there is so many people out there that think that a crop factor actually increase the focal length (in the physical sense), or decrease the amount of light being collected.
For example, a Sony A7R4 use an IMX455 (FF, 61Mpx, 3.76um pixels), and Fuji XT-3 an IMX571 (aps-c, 26MPx with 3.76um pixels), both being sensors of the same generation and tecnhlogie, they'll behave the same when it come to noise, regardless of the sensor size (unless the camera itself got flawed electronics...). They'll also capture the exact same detail size, so you are not gaining any "reach" with the aps-c one.
But many people will have that wrong because of oversimplification and photographer not caring enough about physic (I don't think you are one of them tho)
@@johnrus7661 and btw, the approximation you give are quite correct for most real life situations indeed, the important point is just to keep in mind that they are approximation, with assumption, and if used outside of the assumption, they can lead to wrong results :)
@@Thefuror38500 No it's not this is basic photography 1 oh 1 when you use 1.6 crop sensor you are increasing depth the field you are decreasing noise performance and everything else. You do not get a free launch using a 1.6 crop sensors. Read up if you think I'm wrong.
I've been shooting for over 15 years I know what I'm talking about.
And this is got nothing to do with pixel size that's a whole other conversation that's unrelated to this one.
Hi Josh! great video. What about noise? Do you get lower noise with the speedbooster at high ISO? I know that normally in fullframe the noise is a lot less noticeable than in a crop sensor
Thanks! Noise is independent of using a speedbooster. That is determined mostly by the sensor size and the ISO. There are other variables like pixel density, oversampling, noise reduction etc. The one thing that the speedbooster can do to help with noise is that you get an extra stop of light so you can lower your ISO by one stop in low light situations. These two videos (which are in the description) will help you understand this further:
Canon Speedbooster (Everything You Need To Know) - czcams.com/video/7E7jKZq7VyA/video.html
Crop Sensors - czcams.com/video/Qcdtq3N6yQI/video.html
@@Josh_Sattin thanks a lot for the explanation and links!
@@AndresArosemena You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
I have the 16-35mm f2.8 L II and when i zoom in to 16mm with the Viltrox EF-R3 on my Canon R7 is see 16mm in the viewfinder, the same is true when I go to 35mm. If I set the camera to F2.8, that is what I see in the viewfinder. I’m running the latest version of firmware on my R7. Do I need to update the software on the speedbooster?
Hello, can you tell me if the Canon R7 with this adapter mounted, loses image stabilization?
Great video! I recently bought a Canon 24-70 2.8 Mk1 with my R7 and Vilrox speedbooster. I expected to be able to set the the f/ to 2 but it will not go lower than 2.8. Any advice?
Hey there. I have the EF 24-70 2.8 MK2 with the viltrox and i have a similar issue most the time. My adapter does not recalculate the aperture and focal lenght to the camera. Reattaching both to the camera usually fixes that issue and i thing low temperatures are also increasing that problem.
Great Video! One Question: Does the 2.0 aperture of the 16 -35 on the R7 also correspond to an aperture of 2.0 on a real full frame camera ? So also in the blurred background.
In terms of light, yes. In terms of depth of field no. You can't change the F2.8 aperture of the lens. With the speedbooster and the R7 set at F2.0, it will be similar to F2.8 on a full frame camera in terms of depth of field. But not exactly the same because of the new 1.136x crop factor. Hope that makes sense.
Hi josh, i have tried the speedboster on my R7 with the nifty 50 and It does not go down from 1.8 to 1.2 and same with a tamron 24-70 2.8, it shows 2.8 and it does not let me go down to 2.0
Is there any updates on the speedboster or something that I have to set on camera?
Thanks and keep it up with these awesome videos
Actually yes. Remembering that with a speed booster you'll have to get closer to your subject than with a standard adaptor so you'll create a shallower DoF with the same subject framing.
Yes you can charge the 2.8 on the lens.
If you're increasing the FoV but keeping the physical size of the aperture the same it will increase the Fstop value.
Great video. So in terms of Bokeh. I understand that the F2.8 speed boosted to F2.0 on a crop sensor will still give you the Bokeh of F2.8 on Full Frame. But doesn't full frame provide more Bokeh at 2.8 than a crop sensor at 2.8? So is it true that a speed boosted F2.8 on a crop sensor would give you more of a an F2.0 level of Bokeh on a crop sensor for the distance? If not, then it seems the advantage is limited to light and FOV but not bokeh for speedboosted vs non speedboosted for the same lense at the same distance (you can't always move closer)
Hello, Does Speedbooster adapt with ND filter and which one can I buy ?
Do you recommend me speedbooster as a Wedding photographer ? and Which lens do you recommend me for this kind of things?
Thank you for all your videos, Much love from France !
You're welcome! You would need an ND filter that screws on the front of your lens. You can use whatever you would like. I made a video comparing a few of them: czcams.com/video/RqUcaDNl-7g/video.html
I have never shot a wedding and I mostly focus on video so I don't feel qualified to recommend a lens for wedding photography. Thanks for watching!
What lens in your opinion is worth adapting with speedbooster on R7 for people already own full frame RF bodies like R5 and R6? I could only think of short tele photo lens like 70-200f2.8 or prime like 85IS. For everything else, just use a vanilla EF-RF Canon adapter with your full frame camera. For people owning multiple EF L quality lenses, I assume they have jumped to R5 bandwagon by now.
I wouldn't buy a R7 and a speedbooster if you have a R5 or R6 unless there are specific features you prefer on the R7. Having a crop sensor camera can be helpful for sports and wildlife photography since you get extra reach with your lenses. But there are lots of other factors too depending on how you use your camera.
@@Josh_Sattin for sports wildlife you dont want focal reducer speed booster. Plain vanilla adapter is enough hence why my initial question.
@@frankluo230 For sure. It all depends on what you shoot. For me, I am generally using either a 16-35 or 24-70 so the speedbooster can be very handy. It's tough to get a decent wide lens on a APSC camera sometimes.
Is there any "pure reducer" but NOT "reducer + adaptor" so that I can use RF-mount 24-70mm L full-frame lens on R7 and still make the focal length range (approx.) 24-70mm?
Unfortunately that is not physically possible. The only reason the reducer is possible is because you need that space in between the EF lens and RF mount.
does the canon speedbooster also produce that purple ring in the center? because if not I think that would be the better buy imo
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how how does the R7 + speed booser ISO performace compare with R6.. I suppoe a propper test in all aspects of the Canon R7+ speedbooster vs Canon would be great. is you want to make that video. Keep in mind eye tracking of subject moving from sunlight into shade and moving also. So the focsung/tracking and ISO performance in video and photo.
Unfortunately I don't own a R6 and have never used one.
@@Josh_Sattin I want to figure out if I can use the R7+speedbooster for professional wedding photography. Photo+Video. Or rather stick to the R6. I prefer the R7 for most of my personal photography but my wedding photography needs first priority. I need to know R6 vs R7 with speed booster with a 70-200mm lens on the following aspects for photo and video:
- ISO performance under lowlight conditions.
- Focus tracking of moving subject close and far. and from in the sun to a shaded area towards the camera and just horizontal
- image quality
- Canon speedbooster vs viltrox speedbooster vs R6 for all scenarios mentioned.
In other words is the R7 with a speedbooster as good as an R6 for portrate and wedding photography/videography and other full frame photography use. Would be a good video to make I think.
@@whb247 As I said, I have never used a R6 so I can't really give you good advice here and can't answer your questions. That being said, if I was 100% photo then I would probably go with the R6 for the full frame sensor. If there is video involved, it's a bit more complicated.