A Guide to the Flamethrower | Helldivers 2
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- čas přidán 15. 05. 2024
- I'm visiting the Flamethrower (FLAM-40 Incinerator Flamethrower) today which has been healthily buffed by an extra +50% boost to fire damage over time. This has made it absolutely amazing to bring into the battlefield and cook up the enemies of humanity.
Definitely S tier for the Terminids but doesn't even deserve a spot on a tier list for Automatons.
Let me know if you learned any new Flamethrower tips.
What do you think?
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00:00 Intro
00:39 How it works
03:05 Testing Method
04:17 Flamethrower vs Terminids
04:26 Scavengers
04:47 Hunters
05:10 Warriors
05:35 Stalkers
06:02 Bile Spewers
06:31 Brood Commanders
06:46 Chargers
07:45 Bile Titans
08:01 Terminid Tips
08:37 Terminid Time-To-Kill Chart
08:53 Flamethrower vs Automatons
10:10 Troopers / Scout Striders
10:56 Berserkers
11:36 Devastators
12:10 Tanks
12:44 Hulks
13:04 Automaton Thoughts
13:21 Automaton Time-To-Kill Chart
13:40 Outro
#helldivers2 #helldivers2gameplay #gameplay #arrowhead #gameplayvideo #gaming #gamers #patch #update #news - Hry
UPDATE: New ship upgrade gives it a further +25% Damage?!?!
Now its EVEN BETTER than demonstrated.
Did they fix the issue with only the host dealing damage over time?
@@kaznika6584not yet
@@kaznika6584 They fixed it recently
Enemies at you? Point at them. Enemies far away? Point at ground and watch as they die trying to approach
Exactly, and watch in satisfaction either way.
And if you need a larger area? Napalm strike
@@bellingtoned there i also the new incendiary shotty, for all your explosive, fiery needs.
@@Lunaraia as long as we don't have a explosion on death suit I will still need more explosives
The wind spreading flames is really interesting. Great video, Spice!
Yeah I think that was the most shocking/exciting discovery whilst testing it. Thank you!
It can also blow the flames into you if you fire against the wind
WHEN THE WIND IS SLOW AND THE FIRE'S HOT
This game's physics are underrated
It would be neat if the flamethrower at least stunned the hulk after a few seconds from having it overheat.
Not saying it would make it bot-usable but those are the heatsinks that are being roasted.
I agree. I'm thinking it must be a bug that it doesn't seem to do any damage though as thats a pretty odd decision, especially as it can take out tanks via the vents.
that's a really good idea, seconded
Flamethrower buff from a while back was decent, do wish games would start giving us the real flamethrowers that can go serious distances though.
Yeah, I remember it being the moment it became really good against Chargers. Maybe the Flamethrower on the Mech (whenever it gets added) will reach long distance.
@@TheWileSpice Or a fire mode variant that sprays in a spread or the real life versions with range.
Killing floor 2 and 3
They should give us an second mech stratagem which has as flamethrower with further range as a primary weapon instead of the gatling gun. This mech should also be immune to fire damage, ofc. It's made from steel or titanium or something like that after all. This way you could basically bath in the fires you created which would make you the bane of melee terminids. And if it's too powerful, take away the rockets or something.
Pause
"Blowing his back out from behind. ".... is crazy!
Ayo
Came to post this 😂
@@dkerr200I came and then posted this
what da hell
How fitting that one that's named spice giving a guide on the flamethrower
Haha, it IS quite fitting! Hadn't even crossed my mind.
"Meal prep by batch cooking" 😂😂😂
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Found you from Reginald’s video on bot tactics. I was wondering who the insane man with the flamethrower was, aside from being my spirit animal. Democracy be with you, you’re doing Prometheus’ work 🙏
Glad you swung by!
Somebody has to try to give it back to the Hulks! Thank you for the kind words, 'Diver.
Do flameys even need a guide??? You just pull that trigger on EVERYTHING you see..
And watch blissfully as the world burns around you!
Teammates? gone. Citizens? Already reduced to ashes.
Nice vid
Yourself: also gone
It does literally no damage to the Bile titans
"One shudders to imagine what inhuman thoughts lie behind that mask, What dreams of chronic and sustained cruelty?"
It’s a fun weapon, and i use it to take down patrols and shielded enemies. It’s almost essential to me at this point
Youve convinced me to embrace fire
This is the way.
Shield pack and flame thrower is so much fun. i tell my friends, I’ll deal with crowd control, ill bait the huge breaches and waves away while they complete obj s. I do hope for a fire protection armor soon
My current favourite loadout right now for sure. Its so much fun to allow all the breaches to happen so you have hordes to purge hahaha. & Fingers crossed for the armour some day!
2:00 Although probably difficult to implement it would be great if you could start forest fires on planets with them to the point that it can make or break the mission,either killing your entire team or blocking the mission area or killing all the enemies for you
Cool idea, but definetely only include on high difficulties and maybe give the host the option to turn this off.
I appreciate the numbers
I'm glad, it was painful at times to get them!
@@TheWileSpice Yeah can imagine that and while watching it, I was thinking like ...yeah this dude put some effort in it haha.
It's really nice to see vague things I got from hearsays put into something more concrete, thank you.
Been using it since i inlocked the damn thing close to launch. Even against bots. Full fire build all the way, all the time. Between our friends we have a chat going for helldivers, and my nickname has been set as "local pyro" which only influences me more!!
Hahaha a true Pyromaniac amongst us. Taking it into the Bots is true insanity. Super Earth commemorates your efforts Diver.
Also need to mention that on first person mode, your weapon shoots higher than on third person. This is particularly useful for flamethrower, as it can prevent you setting the ground below you on fire on certain terrain conditions such as shooting upwards or when blocked by a short rock.
Yeah that's definitely a big bonus from 1st person. Only downside is the limited field of view.
Just wanted to let you know!- I + the royal we really appreciate the hard research you put into your video! Thank you for the data and the know how! Hope you have some fun making vids!
My pleasure! Thank you for watching, I'm glad you enjoyed. Making the vids is very fun!
Great vid! Found out about this channel from your friend mentioning that you were the one using the flamethower against bots. Honestly gigachad move. But I do kinda wonder if bots have innate resistances to fire damage alone
Thank ya! Glad you enjoyed. & Ah yes, Reginald! I was holding it down for us Flamer users haha. I'm thinking they might do yeah. Especially units with vents on the back.
The meal prep line had me xD Excellent guide! This is one of my fav weapons to use!
Hahaha, why thank you! Same here, wiping out waves of enemies so efficiently feels too good.
Thank you for your research & testing
My pleasure, 'Diver.
Fire shotgun + incendiary mines + flamethrower + napalm eagle = perfect bug BBQ
Don't forget the incendiary grenades too!
Now we know what the mad man was up to in reginald's video
Attempting to cook metal, for research!
I love these videos. Each one is like a stroke of informational video genius. You come out of left field with a deeply insightful observation and it makes your content stand out to me in a way I cannot describe. Keep doing what you do man.
I'm glad you've been enjoying the vids! Thank you for the kind words & for watching. More always on the way!
We need an updated version of this guide.
I need to know how the flamethrower works against the factories.
the fire affliction number is very useful because it doesn't just apply to the flamethrower but all flame weapons. this means throwing the napalm eagle strike and the fire mines at a bug breach is actually a good idea.
Yeah its handy to know how well other fire sources will perform. Napalm is definitely up there against bugs now for sure.
What weapon(s) would you like to see covered next?
AMR / marksman rifles, or Recoilless / EAT
Laser cannon would be fun :3
AMR, please and thank you
Expendable anti tank! (Quasar cannon users btfo)
The MG101/MG202? HMG, tis a rough beast but it definitely has bite.
High RPM Super Earth .50cal just activates my neurons. Quite a lot of ways to handle it with engineering armor, stun nades, ammo back pack if one really wants to go all in to use the full auto anti material machinegun.
Getting to machinegun hulks to bits feel so satisfying.
My build:
- Fire Breaker and Stun Grenades.
- Flamethrower and Shield Generator.
- Napalm Strike and Bomb Eagle.
- Medic Heavy Armour.
A great build. Stuns are beasts for taking down Chargers and feel like a must.
Reminds me of the flamethrower build in The Division.
Yeah, similar sort of vibe.
I love using it on bugs and knew better not to bring it to the automaton area when I first got it. I feel sorry for the ones who tried. But I never knew that the wind pushes the flame that's good to know.
Yeah, my Helldivers were subject to the worst horrors of war trying to test this against the Automaton. The wind is definitely the most interesting discovery.
"Mmmph"
-Pyro, shortly after torching a bunch of Automatons and collecting the cash that fell out of them.
thanks for compiling the data, especially on charger.
I think its worth noting that against bile titans it can at least pop the sacks very quickly, which allows it to consistently finish off one weakened by on orbital railgun strike, or vice versa. Obviously still not great as theres many other weapons that can pop the sacks safer and from further away, but its something.
That is very true! takes only a couple seconds to catch both if you aim correctly.
I love the kitchen timer sound effect while you are cooking the bugs. Or is it in my head? Great review.
Hahaha, its real! Thank you!
Great tutorial, I enjoyed it.
Thank you! Many people recognise me as the maniac with the Flamer against bots in your tactics video.
It would be really cool if they buffed it on Bots, by adding an "overheat" effect to burning enemies. Like their armor would get red and lose durability as it goes soft from the heat. Or they take slowed movement and fire rate as you overheat their CPU's.
I'd like this. A nice way to add utility to the weapon if they really don't want to make it damage them more.
After the most recent buff the flamethrower is a DELIGHT to use on Terminid missions! Now they only need to buff the minefield deployers and every stratagem in the game will be viable in one scenario or another!
Yeah! It feels exactly where it should be now. Definitely my current favourite support stratagem for sure. Those mines do need a buff to bring them up I agree!
I once saw a guy with the incendiary breaker on a bot mission running away from a devastator.
I was immediately reminded of Thunder Psyker's dawn of War Dark Crusade video:
"Why is burning a robot not working?!"
When the major order is against the Terminids again, I’m going to run a pyro build while hosting. Incendiary Breaker and grenades, Flamethrower, Napalm Airstrike, Incendiary mines and Orbital Gas Strike (not fire but serves the same purpose and affected by the same bug). Engineering Kit armour for more grenades so more fire.
Best believe I'll be following the same philosophy. Everything must burn.
You can reload a canister in mid air with the jump pack which is very handy.
My vote for next weapon is on Jar-5 Dominator, specifically against the Strider. Seems to be 4 or 5 shot to leg, but sometimes I seem to get red hitmarker during the stagger animation, where it would either have been normal hit (leg) or deflected (front armor) and I can't figure out what's going on.
I'm quite a fan of the weapon due to the similarities to the Boltgun in 40k, so that is a good shout.
Saw you usin flamethrower on other video. I like using everything and swapping around.
Would that be Reginald's advanced tactics video? It's always nice to use our full arsenal of weapons.
I'd ask for the spear next but damn that thing is just so painful when it doesn't lock on half the time
Hahaha, you're not wrong. That thing is plagued by the locking issues, they really should sort those asap.
You need to do a support weapons tier list. I need it man
That is definitely on the cards!
You place so much side humor that I can’t get enough of it. 😂Yet informative at the same time. Keep up the amazing work!
Hahaha, thank you for the kind words! More on the way!
I finally found a game where the flamethrower is my go to... Freaking love it! (Yes even after the fire damage buff.)
One of the most fun in the game at the moment in my democratic opinion!
There is so much to analyze, how powerful really is the AMR, the different granades, the limitations and utilities of the jump pack, best weapons to use the supply pack, the numbers is the boosters, etc.
Also, I love your laugh
There really is a wealth of things to tackle!
& thank you hahaha.
When we first encountered Chargers we didnt know ehat to do. Tried flamethrower next round and loved how fast killed them.
Yeah its a beast against them. Really does make the weapon 100% worth taking.
It's very effective at clearing eggs. Would recommend bringing one to make terminid omelettes.
I would LOVE an anti-fire set, running around in a napalm strike with a flamethrower would be unimaginably metal.
Great video lol
I really like the flamethrower at high difficulties. There are so many chargers, and the flamethrower can take care of them without much hassle.
And it has quite a lot of ammo with a reasonable reload, so you can take down a lot of chargers.
Yeah its a monster against Chargers, especially with stuns. Though they have sort of gatekept it's real damage behind the fire damage upgrade with the recent fire damage nerf which sucks.
As a 40K Salamanders player I can verify the effectiveness of a flamethrower against bug abominations. For non-organic armored lifeforms a high energy Melta weapon is advisable.
Nothing like Purging the xeno's with a Flamer.
As a Scorch main in TF2 and a Pyro main in Tf2, this message has my seal of approval.
Hell yeah.
You mean it isn't as easy as pointing it at the enemy and pressing the trigger? I'm not a thinking man!
Hahaha, as long as you don't fry yourself in the process, feel free to think as little as possible whilst cooking up a storm!
A thing about Bile titans
While it's still an inferior weapon. If the Bile titans carapace is cracked on either the legs or its side. You can spew flames at that point and the damage will go through. Killing it in approximately the same time as Chargers. (if not a little bit more)
Snort the ashes when you're done.
For Liberty?
@@TheWileSpice For liberty.
Fire resistant armor is an amazing idea
Would be amazing to use positioning in fire as a tactic.
There should be and optional backpack for more flaming fun!
That would be awesome and I would 100% use it!
6:16 This is just a crack theory of mine with no evidence behind it, but perhaps since friendly fire is also enabled for enemies, and since bile spewers tend to come in groups and puke all over the place, perhaps they have some sort of innate resistance to damage over time to prevent them from taking each other out too easily?
And while this DoT resistance prevents them from being a self-fixing issue for Helldivers, as a side effect it also unintentionally makes them resistant to passive burning damage.
Potentially? Think we both need to get our tin-foil hats on here. Its definitely possible.
dam a real shame that fire dmg over time is not working if you are not the host. AND it explains a all inconsistents i had with my fire weapons. i thought it kinda was just in my head or some bugi hitboxes. But well no flame weapons when i am not the host, good to know. :)
Yeah its super frustrating, it also affects the Orbital Gas Strike if you use that at all. Really hoping it gets fixed sooner than later.
After the balance changes this weapon replaced the arc thrower as my go-to gun against bugs, while the arc thrower on the other hand replaced the quasar cannon for automatons
I think thats pretty much the same for me as well!
There is a faster way to kill chargers with the flamer. You have to shoot the inner front leg. The stream will hit the leg AND fork into the body for extra damage. I'd say your can get a kill in about 2 to 3 seconds like this.
Interesting! Definitely going to give this a try.
@@TheWileSpice the hard part is you have to hit them while they're facing you, which with chargers usually means they're either charging, go figure, or other bugs are running defence. But super fun if you pull it off.
to summerize. Shoot below or at the body of bugs, shoot the legs of chargers, and remember that if you brought a flamethrower someone else should bring an anti armor for the titans. And absolutely remember, dive to survive.
Dive to survive is a good motto.
Been using it since the buff. Have it down pretty good by now. Nice video though.
Hell of a lot of fun isn't it. Thank you!
@@TheWileSpice I mean its more fun after the buff. Pre buff it was good but only against small enemies that died easy. Post buff I mostly clear all mobs outside of bills. Railcannon for those. Quasar for Bots.
you have to be hosting for the dot damage?? whaaat 😭
Aye, I don't know if its all of the time or just some of the time though. I just hosted them all just in-case.
Me, who had decided to give up on my favourite weapon when fighting automatons after reading the time to kill chart:
So you're saying there's a chance.
🤣 Hahaha. As long as you position like a pro and have stratagem to deal specifically with hulks and tanks then there's always a chance.
Give in to your urges! Go burn the bots.
2:53 no way? Wow I mean isn't the entire point of the weapon to have the DOT?
Yeah, it will cut the damage by a third or more if you are not host due to the bug! Its very lame. Also makes Napalm Eagle & Gas Strike useless if you aren't hosting as well.
Can you test the Incendiary breaker too? See if the tick damage actually do much.
As far as I'm aware, it should do the same tick damage as the Flamethrower, it seems so in Terminids right now. You can spray wildly into all of them and the Fire Affliction will rack up kills.
This was my first support weapon I bought and it’s basically second nature now.
A good first weapon hahaha.
Your service field-testing is smiled upon, it will surely help Super Earth R&D make some modifications to the weapon for better Democracy-spreading against Automatons..
Thank you, many Divers made the ultimate sacrifice for a better future.
The flamethrower will be GOAT when the devs fix DOT-type damage. Presently in multiplayer, fire and gas DOT ticks only work for the network host (not the same as the lobby host.) If you've ever been playing with other people and you notice that bugs that are on fire don't seem to be taking any damage, or that they walk through your orbital gas strike unphased, that's why.
It's currently broken.
Yeah once that bug is sorted its going to be amazing & full teams will be able to enjoy the benefit finally.
"Blowing the chargers back out"
Different kind of helldivers but im here for it 🫣
Gotta' get up close and personal with the Flamer right.
7:10 chargers are mouses confirmed
🤣
I did managed to defeat a bile titan once with the flamethrower. But it was already damaged by 500 kg bomb and a rail strike. I had to get under its belly and let it rip.
It would make sense if the flame thrower did insane damage to vents because they are there to disperse heat and dumping heat in them would do some serious damage and make the bots overheat
Yeah, thats why I think it must be unintentional that the Hulk takes 0 damage.
Ever since the recent burn buff, I've been having an issue of insta dying from full hp due to burning and the fact burning enemies can spread burning to you. I dont trust the flamethrower right now. Any tips?
Heavy armour can help you not die as fast to the fire which could help. I'm not sure how you're aiming but you could try aiming a little higher, or finding little stumps on the terrain to stand on before firing. Oh & diving, dive backwards a lot hahaha.
One thing I noted is that I often set myself on fire if I dive backwards while firing . It seems that the flame catches my own leg
Hahaha. Yeah its annoying when it happens, you sort of have to train yourself to move your aim up slightly while you're diving.
It should be pointed out that just because there are visual flames on the ground doesnt mean walking on it will light you/them up.
The sheld can be used to protect urself from a little fire damage
a bit late here but does the flamethrower's damage stack ? like if there is 2 flamethrower on the team & they cross beams on a single target do they take damage from the both or only from one ?
The raw Flamethrower damage does yes as it is damage from separate sources. But the target won't take any extra damage from fire affliction.
About the Hulks- Did you test on any non-flame hulks? Because I wouldn't put it past the devs to make flame hulks immune to fire damage just so they don't run through their own fire and die, but I don't think that they would do the same for other hulks.
I believe the one I demonstrated on in the video was a non-flame variant. I do agree that it would be unsurprising if they had fire resistance for that though, could be across the board for Hulks?
@TheWileSpice Oh, you're right. I'm sorry. I saw flames coming off the tip of one of the weapons and thought it was a flamethrower.
All good. Still sucks. Hopefully they fix/change it so we can be truly crazy and take it into bots successfully.
yes.... Yes..... YES
i said exactly the same about the fire resitant armour
Surprised they haven't done it already. Needs to happen eventually for sure.
If you want to kill those big bio spinners, just shoot at the ground and they explode almost instantly instead of shooting on top
I wonder would the fire shot gun fair better?
to be clear hosting only refers to the player running the server, not the person who you join. you can be the orange diver but not be host.
All flamethrowers found on bot planets were there for brush/ice removal. Yes including the nothing but rock and sand planets. It's the only logical thing.
Haha, either that or long lost Terminid planets!
My main issue when trying the flame thrower out (against bugs, ofc) was were enemies closing in and me killing myself with the fire.
Yeah setting yourself on fire is one of its biggest downsides and can be frustrating as sometimes it doesn't even look like you should be.
I heard if you have the ship upgrade to do 25% extra damage it makes it worthwhile vs bots
I can see that being true yeah. Hulks will still be an issue though. As well as all the ranged attacks!
I can almost guarantee that they made hulks immune so they don't just kill themselves with their own fire. It wouldn't surprise me if the player flamethrower and the hulk flamethrower were the same weapon either.
You're probably not even wrong lol. If it's the case, they need to separate Hulk flamer in the coding!
I don't think Hulks immunity is a bug because other wise they would just kill 1 player and then die to there own flames. The one case where friendly fire doesn't apply
Surely they should be able to be tackled via the vents though. If its not a bug then its definitely something I would change.
@@TheWileSpice agreed, as the other commenter said - it should at least stun a hulk if you blast its heatsink with the flamethrower, like a 3s shutdown due to overheating while it vents out of all available space
Is it just me or is there like a slight noise of soldier from tf2's scream at 4:22
Respect burning the bots and trying to give it back to the hulks 😂
Had to let em know how it feels, they just laughed at me hahaha.
How do you kill bile spewers so fast, whenever I try to kill a bile spewer with a flamehtrower it tanks almost all the dmg and the spits
I'm not sure whether longer distances spread the ticks of damage more so it might be a factor at the very long ranges?
It could be a symptom of the damage over time bug?
Could also possibly be the fire damage hitting other body parts with different health pools?
The flamethrower is fun until you get a horde of hunters leaping at you XD
They can get really annoying hahaha.
i honestly might buy helldivers now that i know theres a flamethrower.
It feels amazing to use, I can't lie.
@@TheWileSpice well, time for me to start saving then!
Maybe you can cover laser cannon next?
Definitely have my eyes on it.
What’s this about the flamethrower dot not registering on non host players though ?
Unsure if it's everytime or not, but myself and many others report DoT sources (all fire and the Gas Strike) doing no damage if you're not the host of a mission.
Hopefully they fix it soon as it's frustrating!