WW2 OBERSALZBERG Then and now (Part 2)
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@@westonbrewster8344 , thank you for watching.
I am working on it.
Greetings from Argentina.
I am 71 now and have been a WWII history fan most of my life. I have read almost everything about the ETO. Your then and now videos add an entirely different dimension to the history of when and how. Thank you for your efforts!
Where you a German or Allied soldier?
Do the math. Just a history fan.@@DrSales-zl3kq
@@DrSales-zl3kqHow’s your math? He says he’s 71 years old. WW2 ended 78 years ago. Getting clearer for you now?
@garyw8481, thank you very much for your comment and thank you very much for telling us about yourself and WW2
Greetings from Argentina.
OMG LOL!!!!!!!@@GymChess
I visited the area in 1983, at that time the walls of the garage were still standing. At the time I could not get a sense of the layout of the place; this video does a really great job of that.
So fascinating. I'm always amazed how quickly nature reclaims the land.
hondaphan4172, you are right, nature always has the last word.
Greetings from Argentina.
It was not the nature but the Bavarian government who demolished the buildings and planted trees so nobody would go there to visit "Hitler´s house". Otherwise they would still be there, as they did until the 1950´s and some parts until the 1990´s.
Wow! Fantastic job! Seen many bergof-obersalzberg then-and-now videos...like all your videos, your transitions and scaling is spot-on. Great to see you posting again. 👍👍
@livingabovethe12th, thank you for your comment, you are very kind. I just try to do the best and most serious work possible.
Greetings from Argentina.
A wonderful selection of Then & Now. I've had the pleasure of visiting and staying in this area back in the 80's and absolutely loved it. We stayed in what was then the Hotel General Walker, which is sadly no more.
Definitely THE best Then & Now channel out there. Thank you for your efforts, the choice of music is very evocative too.
Greetings from Thailand.
@bangkokney8708, thank you very much for your comments, you are very kind. I just try to do the best and most serious work possible.
Thank you very much also for telling us and sharing your story in Obersalzberg, especially staying at the Hotel General Walker, it must have been an incredible experience.
Greetings from Argentina.
Actually this is not the "best" Then & Now. There´s another channel who does a pretty good job... but this is one is very good.
I've been watching this series, It's stunning because it's not just "then and now," it is skillfully layered. To see Allied soldiers standing where Hitler stood is well beyond the extra mile of effort. I only wish my father could have seen this. Thank you!
@sumbuddy63 thank you very much for your comment.
I just try to do the best and most serious work possible.
Greetings from Argentina.
Excellent how the images of past to present are superimposed in precise perspective to the location of these buildings with caption and how mother nature took her land back. Excellent job!
Magnífico aporte histórico. Gracias!
Desde, Tegucigalpa 🇭🇳
Amazing how blending these images brings back history. Very well done! Lot of research needed for this!
Excellent Work Ignacio quite a few photos I have not seen before, a shame it was demolished it should of been converted into a museum and filled with reproductions of the furniture that was inside it, would be interesting to stand on the patios with the same views from the 1940s had it been preserved. All the best Ignacio looking forward to the next one.
My friend Russell, You are always very kind with your messages. I agree with you, it is a shame that the Berghof has disappeared, but we all know that those were other years where the only important thing was to eradicate Nazism in any way, even trying to erase history.
A hug from a distance from an Argentine friend.
@@IgnacioVeutroProductions Hi Ignacio yes it was thought that these places would attract neo nazis, I also think had the Reich Chancellery been saved and made into a museum it would be the number one tourist attraction in the world, and a hug from me for you dear friend
@@Russell9241 , Dear my friend, I fully agree with your comment. It would have been an incredible museum. Hug from Argentina.
Awesome... you and Ruiter Productions are really cool
@mmotorhead, thank you very much, you are very kind.
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Outstanding work!! Loved the way you got the angles perfect with the superimposed images from the past. Absolutely stunning ❤❤❤
@sureshrajbalaraman7917, thank you very much for your comment, I just try to do the best and serious work possible.
Greetings from Argentina.
Thank you very much for taking the time to make these videos.
Your videos continue to blow my mind. Thank you for putting so much work into these videos.
@KevinFryAdventures, thank you very much for your words, you are very kind.
Greetings from Argentina.
I liked the photos superimposed over the original!!!
Another superb video. Your work in producing these is very much appreciated. One can feel oneself being transported back to the 30's and 40's. It's amazing. Thank you !
@TheKRU251, thank you very much for your comment.
Greetings from Argentina.
Amazing thanks. I always wanted to visit here but my terrible health has put a stop to that. This is as close as I will probably get but I really enjoyed it, beautifully put together thanks!
@rare6499, thank you for yur comment, you are very kind.
Something important, never rule out or consider any goal impossible, think that I was in all these places in a wheelchair.
Greetings from Argentina.
Great overlays awesome to watch. Gives me goosebumps knowing my grandparents went thru al of that. Gut gemacht!
Probably the best ‘now and then’ videos on this topic I have seen …. Very well done
scott4393, thank you very much for your comment, you are very kind.
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This was very well done.Thanks.
@paulmoore120 thank you very much.
Greetings from Argentina.
Schade dass man so ein historisches Haus zerstört hat.
@Uwelein40, Ich stimme Ihrer Aussage zu, aber am Ende des Zweiten Weltkriegs gab es Jahre, in denen versucht wurde, den Nationalsozialismus auf jede erdenkliche Weise und um jeden Preis auszurotten, einschließlich des Versuchs, die Geschichte auszulöschen.
Grüße aus Argentinien.
Eccellente opera di ricostruzione storica visiva .grandissima abilita professionale e massima cura nella realizzazione .la perfezione storica .
6:15 is not a true representation of the main staircase location. That's the back retaining wall corner a good 75 feet away.
Мы все не идеальны, не так ли.....
@marcrigor6423, thank you very much for your correction. You are absolutely right and I am aware of the "mistake" made, but the truth is that it was intentional, since the idea was to show what was the main entrance to the Berghof and what currently remains, and if I had exactly respected the distances, the comparison It wouldn't have been as effective. However, and I repeat, you are correct.
Greetings from Argentina.
@@ottoyurich6041, Спасибо большое за просмотр и за ваше мнение.
Поздравления из Аргентины.
thank u for your Work 💙
@tijanahazer, thank you very much.
Greetings from Argentina.
Wonderful, you are the best.
@U2ENDOFTHEWORLD, thank you very much for your words. You are very kind. I just try to do the best and most work possible.
Greetings from Argentina.
@@IgnacioVeutroProductions , somos hermanos, saludos desde Brasil.
@@U2ENDOFTHEWORLD 💛💚🤝💙🤍
Very well done. Thank you.
@kenskinner6948 thank you for your comment.
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amazing 😮👏
@lappin6482, thank you very much.
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Great comparison photos many thanks
@ppgedez thank you very much for your comment.
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Incredible vid. Excellent.
@briangallardo3495, thank you for watching and thank you for your comment.
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@IgnacioVeutroProductions greetings from San Antonio Texas. Can't wait to go see this
Odličen video, hvala za vašo delitev, lep pozdrav iz Slovenije 👍👋
@travel-putovanjatadejsluga9990 Najlepša hvala za vaš komentar.
Lep pozdrav iz Argentine.
@@IgnacioVeutroProductions lep pozdrav v Argentino 🤝👋
@@travel-putovanjatadejsluga9990 👍
Fascinating watch 👍🏼
@janeeccleston9196 thank you very much for your comment.
Greetings from Argentina.
Ottimo lavoro . Un grazie ed un abbraccio dall' Italia.
af4338, grazie mille per aver guardato i video e per i tuoi commenti.
Saluti dall'Argentina alla terra dei miei nonni.
Superb... well done.
@2011zurich, thank you very much.
Greetings from Argentina.
Amazing such evil lived in such a beautiful place. But then...I guess this is still often the case, great homework and good job portrayining it all. Very interesting.
@markstone5597 thank you for your comment.
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Wow! FANTASTIC! I had the opportunity to visit Obersalsburg. A beautiful community. A must see.
j1st633, thank you for your comment.
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Why destroy history after the war. ..... Sooooo bad
@francoislapalme6728 you are right, what happened is that they sought to eradicate all Nazi vestiges at any cost, even demolishing buildings.
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good job!
@ThomasLach-trader, thank you very much!
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That was excellent. I visited with my daughter last summer 2023.
@moobaz8675 thank you for your commet.
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Odličen video 👍👍👌
Najlepša hvala
Very very good job.....i was there few days ago....this place is impressiv
@MoltoSlice thank you very much for your comment.
Greetings from Argentina.
That was fantastic. Now I know where things were. I was so confused stood there at the berghof the handful of times Ive been up there. Now I know what I was standing on and where it was originally. Its a shame they tore it down. Tyrants should be remembered else they sneak up on us again.
TY🙏🙏
@eric-wb7gj thank you for watching.
Greetings from Argentina.
Sad that we destroy history...it's even happening now in the US
@garryt4443, those were other times, when they only sought to eradicate Nazism in any way, even demolishing post-war buildings.
Greetings from Argentina.
They weren’t destroying history. They were targeting what they believed was a military point of interest in a global conflict. Any disapproving judgement from someone 80 years hence was probably the furthest thing from their minds! Also-the owner of the Berghof destroyed a fair bit of ‘history’ in his time…
Why were the allies so afraid of buildings?
@flyingtigerline, those were other times, when they only sought to eradicate Nazism in any way, even demolishing post-war buildings.
Greetings from Argentina.
they were not afraid!! they wanted to Kill Hitler!
@@azentioced9 not only did they seek to eliminate Hitler, but also to eradicate Nazism at any cost.
Greetings from Argentina.
trés beau et grand travail que vous avez fait à la perfection !
@alaindissoire4730 merci beaucoup pour votre commentaire, vous êtes très gentil.
Salutations depuis l'Argentine.
Excelent job
@joseluisarenas6944 thank you very much.
Greetings from Argentina.
👍 Well done
@ich_vergebe_euch_777 thank you very much.
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👌👌👌👌 tolles Video.
Primo Work ,
👍
Ignacio Veutro, you seem to admire Germany more than some Germans! Well done!
@dr.wilfriedhitzler1885 thank you for your words.
You are right, I greatly admire how the German people were able to re-emerge after suffering so many years under the tyranny of Nazism, then recover from the devastation of WW2 and finally the pain of living for many years in a country divided in two by a wall.
You have a great country.
Greetings from Argentina.
@@IgnacioVeutroProductions Thank you. A lot of Germans want less foreighners (Migrants) here, and when looking at the Germany before the 2. World war they are not satisfied at the moment.
I wish the old architecture of our cities would return and we could stick to ourselves, that does not mean, we do not like tourists, really.
Interesting.
@thomascramer7485 thank you for watching.
Greetings from Argentina.
Parabéns pelo documentário 😞😞
@user-qd5qp5le2s muito obrigado.
Saudações da Argentina.
Ignacio, close to perfection
@renelogtenberg141 thank you very much, you are very kind.
Greetings from Argentina.
I would love to buy the land and rebuild that house like it used to be 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@frankpineda1832 thank you for watching.
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Als Schüler hab ich mir diearu Ruine verbotenerweise mit Schulkameraden angesehen.heute existiert nur noch die stützmauer davon noch der Burghof wurde beseitigt warum auch immer, was kann ein haus oder anwesen für die dunkle Vergangenheit nix.wir waren im Rahmen eines schulausfluges dort .Unser Lehrer sagte damals , das mir da ja keiner hoch läuft und zeigte in Richtung Berghof .
Natürlich hat uns da erstreckt die Neugierde gepackt und wir stiegen aus dem Bus und gingen auf direkten Weg genau da hin.ich hatte damals auch Fotos davon gemacht.
Früher hat man versucht die NS Zeit schnellstmöglich zu vergessen das wird auch der Grund gewesen sein weswegen die Ruinen da oben beseitigt werden mußten. Eigentlich wäre es besser gewesen das genauso stehen zu lassen als Mahnmal auch die anderen Häuser hätte man so stehen lassen sollen.in Rosenheim der Geburtsort von Hermann Göring steht das Geburtstags noch , das wird der Öffentlichkeit aber nicht gezeigt weil man fürchtet das da sonst ein Wallfahrtsort für Nazis entstehen könnte. Selbst die originale Hausnummer von dieser Zeit hängt noch an der Fassade. Rosenheim hat mal frühere Geburtsort und Wohnhäuser von persöhnlichkeiten der vergangenheit gezeigt auch herman göring wurde erwähnt, nur das foto seines geburtshauses wurde nicht gezeigt.da ich ganz in der nähe wohnte und mir das haus von alten leuten als das Geburtshaus von Hermann Göring gezeigt wurde weiß ich welches haus es ist und wo es steht. Was viele nicht wissen rosenheim war einst ein Kur Ort da gab es zb das Kaiser Bad das abgebrannt ist und das Marienbad beide wurden aufgegeben vom Kaiserstadt steht ein teil vom eingangsportal noch vom marienbad existiert auch fast nichts mehr außer paar kleine bauten. Auch Bad Aibling war ein Kurort dessen Gebäude wurden ebenfals entweder umgebaut oder ebenfals abgerissen. Leonhardspfunzen der Herkunftsland fom Mineralwasser St leonhard war früher ein Kurort wo menschen auf kur zu besuch waren heute findet nan dort noch alte Ruinen im Wald .
Eine unglaubliche Geschichte, die Sie detailliert beschrieben haben. Vielen Dank, dass Sie sie geteilt haben und uns ermöglicht haben, viel mehr über die Geschichte zu erfahren, die nicht in den Büchern zu finden ist.
Grüße aus Argentinien.
Something is not clear, Mr. author, where is the first part?
@wolfdietrich9467, thank you for watching. This is the first part of OBERSALZBERG WW2 Then and now czcams.com/video/peG_igU4b7A/video.html
Greetings from Argentina.
Спасибо ! Потрясающая работа !!!!👍
@opelastragtc, Большое спасибо за ваш комментарий, вы очень любезны.
Поздравления из Аргентины.
Ausgezeichnet! 👍🌹
@Timotheus157 Vielen Dank.
Grüße aus Argentinien.
I've been at Berchtesgaden more then 20 years ago. Because of your videos I'm planning to go there again, perhaps next september.
@s.m.assies6448 thank you very much for watching.
It makes me very happy that my videos serve as inspiration for others. I hope you can return to Berchtesgaden and Obersalzberg.
Greetings from Argentina.
Berghof 🇩🇪 Wertarbeit!! 👏Video.
@sieglindewebb Danke fürs zuschauen.
Grüße aus Argentinien.
You can almost feel their spirits.
I wonder why they didn't restore this place.
@Rebel-Rouser in principle, it sought to eradicate Nazi ideology at any cost.
Greetings from Argntina.
Really ashame that it’s all gone…..
@gruppenfuhrer45 You are right, but those were other times when the only aim was to eradicate Nazi ideology at any cost.
Greetings from Argentina.
@@IgnacioVeutroProductions glad to hear from you mate. Cheers from the States
@@gruppenfuhrer45 👍
Einige Einblendungen stimmen nicht, zum Beispiel bei 6:25 Berghof und Stützmauer.
@A7B8Q9D11 Vielen Dank für die Suche und den Hinweis auf dieses Detail.
Sie haben Recht, und es ist ein „Fehler“, den ich absichtlich nur gemacht habe, um im selben Bild das Vorher- und Jetzt-Bild der Haupttreppe zu lokalisieren und zu verstehen, wo sie sich ungefähr befinden würde.
Grüße aus Argentinien.
Зря разрушили (бомбили) такой хороший дом. Оставили бы как музей. Это мое мнение, мнение внучки погибшего на войне советского солдата. Нет перевода, не могу читать комментарий.🙋♀️🇰🇿
@user-yr9my3hp4m Я с вами полностью согласен, но времена были другие и нацизм стремились только искоренить несмотря ни на что, даже сносили здания и пытались стереть историю.
Да благословит Бог твоего дедушку и всех людей, отдавших свои жизни за лучший мир. Поздравления из Аргентины.
Можно увидеть манящие изгибы Вашего прекрасного тела, Сауле?
Le Bergof a été bombardé
Mais le nid d aigle est toujours intacte je l ai visité ces dvenu un restaurant mais ont peut voir l architecture grandiose le tunnel le somptueu ascenseur et l intérieur sublime . Que ça plaise ou pas in monument du 3ème reich phénoménal et le panorama et la route qui nous emmène dans un paysage a coupé le souffle.
Le nid d aigle a été fait par Martin Borman pour son fureur Adolphe Hitler.
@marcdelente2456, merci pour regarder.
Le nid des aigles est un grand héritage technique, mais malheureusement avec une origine extrêmement sombre.
Salutations depuis l'Argentine.
@@IgnacioVeutroProductions sombre ou pas ces bien représentatif d un Allemagne puissante avec des gents d une grandes intelligences et une éthique puissante . Maintenant ont nous faient l apologie des régimes communistes qui ont été bien plus des tueurs de masses par les goulags les famines et qui ont faient des millions de morts bien plus que les allemands. N oubliez qu'aujourd'hui les allemands sont plus proches des américains que des russes . Et constaté la situations aujourd'hui qui sont les nazis .
You are completely wrong about the location of the stairs, you misinterpret the retaining wall.
miepmiepzoefzoef, thank you very much for your correction. You are absolutely right and I am aware of the "mistake" made, but the truth is that it was intentional, since the idea was to show what was the main entrance to the Berghof and what currently remains, and if I had exactly respected the distances, the comparison It wouldn't have been as effective. However, and I repeat, you are correct.
Greetings from Argentina.
can any one come and visit where the bergof ? with out permission?
@azentioced9 thank you for atching.
Yes, where the Berghof was currently located there is a path that connects the Hotel Zum Turken with the Documentation Center, and all that can be seen of the mansion is the retaining wall and some rubble.
Greetings from Argentina.
Schaut was ihr Besatzer diesem Land angetan habt.
Gott kennt die Wahrheit 🙏
@GEFUNDENdieFreiheit Danke fürs zuschauen.
Grüße aus Argentinien.
RIP heiliges Deutschland 🥲
@andyx2299 Danke fürs zuschauen.
Grüße aus Argentinien.
🤍💙🤍💙🤍💙🤍
silvialisterochoa2859, thank you very much for watching.
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⏳🏔️🌲☝️....
@ottoyurich6041, you are right, time passed, and the forest covered the mountain.
Greetings from Argentina.
Se tendría que haber conservado todo
@davidsalas78, coincido contigo. El hecho es que al final de la 2°GM, se buscó e intentó erradicar al nazismo a como dé lugar, y el Berghof hubiera sido un centro de peregrinar muy importante para el remanente nazi que hubiera quedado y para los neonazis, de modo que la mejor idea que tuvieron fue erradicarla del mapa.
Saludos desde Argentina.
@@IgnacioVeutroProductions Así es Ignacio, una lástima destruir un lugar tan emblemático e icónico como lo fue esa residencia.
Esas fueron las excusas que utilizaron los aliados.
Saludos de otro argentino!
Thank you. Very informative.
8:19 completely gives me the creeps. If I walked that path knowing those two evil entities had trod right there before.
1940 was the best situation of Berchtesgaden.
@SKF358 thank you for watching.
Greetings from Argentina.
The 'local woman' you refer to at 4:59 is Lee Miller.
@mytinplaterailway, thank you for your interest in the video.
At first I had the same impression about the identity of the lady who appears seated in the video, but after seeing the image carefully, I realized that the clothing she wears does not correspond to that of a war photographer, even the face is not similar to Lee Miller's.
Greetings from Argentina.
I'll go along with you, but she was definitely there, and to my eye it does look like her. Thanks for replying.@@IgnacioVeutroProductions
@@mytinplaterailway maybe someone can know and tell us definitively whether or not it is Lee Miller.
Greetings from Argentina.
I visited last year and took a piece of stone of the house with me. Don’t ask me why. My wife did and I didn’t have an answer neither 😂
The local authority attends the site a few times a years to spread rubble around from other demolitions for souvenir hunters to pickup.
Guessing over the decades the amount of rubble stolen from the site could rebuild the berghof 10x over.
@@oktfg how toughtfull of them. Ads a bit of mistery to my find!
@@Lecruque By dropping easy finds around I guess the authorities are looking to avoid People turning up with spades, hammers and chisels. Greeks do the same thing at the pantheon / acropolis
@@oktfg I call bullshit on your statement. There is no rubble ‘laying around’ anymore. You need to dig it up, and I highly doubt the authorities can be bothered burrying rubble for tourists. If so, prove your statement. This is not a protected site anyways.
@@Lecruque It’s well known to the authorities that neo Nazi types have some weird compulsion to take souvenirs.
Dumping a few buckets of rubble around to provide the misguided with trinkets costs the municipality nothing.
If you have been there you would know the site isn’t just left to rot in the woods. Workers from the municipality regularly inspect to make sure the ventilation covers and security gates are maintained and damage repaired. Video even shows the new concrete cap they installed to the tunnel ventilation. So there is plenty of evidence that the authorities are doing all they can to deter and distract souvenir hunters - enjoy your special rock along with the 100,000s of others who go there every summer and probably have a special rock of their own. Obviously in your mind this modest villa over the decades has supplied tens of millions of souvenirs for the gullible.
Bad ass all the way around.
NikolasBean, thank you for watching.
Greetings from Argentina.
🐕Blondi😅
@Charlie-vj1uz, you are right, a touch of color between images with such a dark past.
Greetings from Argentina.
rEBUILD THE JERKOF!
@WESSERPARAQUAT thank you for watching.
Greetings from Argentina.
Quien oculta omite destruye su historia está condenado a repetirla
@AntonioRibeiro-ly2rx, gracias por tu palabras.
Lo que dices es verdad, no obstante aquellos eran otros tiempos y solo se buscaba erradicar el nazismo a como dé lugar.
Saludos desde Argentina.
i bet some sick buggers wish it was rebuilt
I'm English and I've been to Obersalzberg twice in last 20 years. It is almost impossible to see anything of the Berghof as it's been destroyed and overgrown with trees. I think that it was a mistake to destroy and remove all evidence of the building in the 1950s. The house should have been left as a ruin, and would be a warning to any neo Nazis, that this is what you get with Nazi policies. A great historical monument has been lost. By the way, the bunkers under the Turk hotel are fantastic! Great video, thank you for posting.