I have said it before around YT, and I'll say it again here. No motoring journalist should ever mention the 1,2 puretech engine without an enormous caviat! Got it in my 2016 Peugeot 308 SW II, and as many other owners of cars with this engine, I've experienced massive issues with this engine! The timing belt dissolves itself over time, cause Peugeot uses "the brilliant solution" of having it run thru oil. The valves stick open on some cars when you floor it for overtaking, turbos have issues on certain cars. It drinks oil like nothing I've ever experienced, and that is just some examples of issues with the engine! Oh, and yes this engine eats spark plugs btw, one must change them every other year or they're likely too burn out, wich happend too me while on a long journey wich was great fun! The whole exchaust rusted too pieces after just 5,5 years, they keyless function on the driver door is well known for giving in on many Stellantis models. And another amazing bit of engineering, is that almost all of the alarms on everything from the windshield washer fluid, to servere engine problems, has the same sound. So after having had 4-5 engine failures as I've experienced, there's nothing like hearing the same alarm go when your out of washer fluid! I lost so much money on my car, and with Stellantis cars depreciating like crazy, and all the issues I personally have experienced, I simply can't afford too get rid of it either, I'm massively up side down on the morgage, and have spent an insane amount on repairs as it is. Oh, and yes one more love nugget. Almost every time I've complained to the dealership where I live, i get the lovely response, "yeah, that's a well known problem with these cars, but your guarantee has expired, so that will cost you so and so"! I just write all this because I'm simply amazed how much praise this engine have gotten, but rarely, if all, there's any mention of the massive amount of issues with it!
I'm sorry about your experience but have to question whether these problems still persist on Pure Tech engines, even wet belt ones, after about 2018. PSA changed the belt material several times, and this engine turns up in so many Stellantis models, I wonder why we don't hear of more failures. I've run a Peugeot 208, September 2020 manufacture, for over three years and the belt looks fine (you can see a section through the oil filler), it uses no oil and the spark plugs have lasted. It's low mileage but then the doomsters say it's short journeys that kill it. On the negative side, the stop/start system hardly ever operates. What I'm sure of is that you have to use exactly the right standard and grade of oil
@@piglet5287you bet they are still happening and on mass, my 71 plate crossland is in the dealership as I write this message along with countless others mokka and grand land and the warranty won’t cover it unless your basically taken in on the back of a break down truck it’s so annoying I’ve got to pay for this because I spotted rotten belt before the engine died , take a look on the Vauxhall forums it’s terrible how many people are affected the worse one was a 24 plate crossland 4000 miles check engine light belt all cracked and falling apart , they need exposing for this it’s a nightmare.oh and you mentioned the correct oil needs to be used lots of these people have stuck to the service intervals and so had the correct oil and still they are failing it’s just a stupid ridiculous design, rubber and oil any oil don’t go well together it’s the fact when standing one part of belt is in oil the other dries out I think as well that can’t help
At least 4 engine failures in 8 years? I'm so sorry you've had this experience. One source I've found helpful over the years is 'Honest John', who have been good at pointing out known faults on used models. I couldn't seem to find a mention of the issues you experienced on their 'What to watch out for' 308 SW page, though. As of 4 July, at least in the UK, all new electric Peugeot models sold are covered for up to 8 years under their new 'Allure Care' scheme, as long as the car is serviced at a Peugeot dealer every 2 years. This looks very similar to 'Toyota Relax' that has been in place for a few years now. Unfortunately, Peugeot's new scheme only seems to cover new, electric cars. And as much as I like them, electric cars seem to be depreciating even worse than most ICE models at the moment. To the tune of the Renault Zoe selling brand new for £30k and used for £15k just 1 year later. So I'm not too sure what to suggest for your situation, other than if it were me, having such an experience with the reliability of your 308 would have massively knocked my confidence in Peugeot...
I really like these, even if it is an SUV. It's smart and compact. But why do reviewers keep getting aerated about 'scratchy plastics' in cars that are priced to be a value proposition. What were they expecting?
You praised the Kamiq a lot. I don't doubt your word but at least in Portugal I rarely ever see one... As for the Mokka, they sell quite nicely. When I am in Spain or anywhere else in Europe I don't see many Kamiqs either ... I wonder, what gives? Why doesn't the Kamiq sell better if it is that good?
We wanted to upgrade to this ‘new’ Mokka after having two of the original style. Unfortunately, as a 6’4” guy, I couldn’t fit in the new car behind the wheel. However, I can fit ina Skoda Kamiq, so that’s what we went for. Why did Vauxhall decide to shrink this car ????
I have bought mokka in 2021. 1.2 130 hp. Belt on that f.....engine lasted two years. 20 000 km. It disolves in oil where some genius has put him. So far no other complaints, car is nice, it drives nice, but once my varranty expires, its goodbye
Doesn’t seem to have been updated in anything but the batteries… ICE engine maybe but really? It’s 2024 vauxhall!!😅 also the video could try to be more precise about the "new" making a comparison.
@@DJSteveB those Puretech engines are garbage, I only just got rid of my DS3 which had engine issues, Wet belt replaced after I had the car for 5 months at 38k miles. Luckily it was still on Warranty, had the car for a further 2 years but was getting through a lot of oil then was told that I'd either need a new engine or an engine rebuild so sold it to WBAC for £4700 now on autotrader for £7400. Wouldn't touch anything with a Purec**p engine ever again.
@@pauldarby8398 Yeah, I've heard similar horror stories. Got to watch out for the many Stelantis and Ford Wet Belt engines. They may be efficient on paper, but they are not reliable / durable. The WhatCar bods dont mention which engine this is which is a shame.
So apart from "it looks more modern," and "they do an electric model," there isn't a single thing you could point to where it is better than the old model. Another reason to never trust these basic mass consumer channels. They're more about suburban fads than useful information.
The Vauxhall Mokka, a truly uninspiring design and horrid to drive, steering is numb and too light, the handling is poor and the finish is sub standard. AVOID!
The expression "damned with faint praise" springs to mind with this review.
I have said it before around YT, and I'll say it again here. No motoring journalist should ever mention the 1,2 puretech engine without an enormous caviat! Got it in my 2016 Peugeot 308 SW II, and as many other owners of cars with this engine, I've experienced massive issues with this engine! The timing belt dissolves itself over time, cause Peugeot uses "the brilliant solution" of having it run thru oil. The valves stick open on some cars when you floor it for overtaking, turbos have issues on certain cars. It drinks oil like nothing I've ever experienced, and that is just some examples of issues with the engine! Oh, and yes this engine eats spark plugs btw, one must change them every other year or they're likely too burn out, wich happend too me while on a long journey wich was great fun!
The whole exchaust rusted too pieces after just 5,5 years, they keyless function on the driver door is well known for giving in on many Stellantis models.
And another amazing bit of engineering, is that almost all of the alarms on everything from the windshield washer fluid, to servere engine problems, has the same sound. So after having had 4-5 engine failures as I've experienced, there's nothing like hearing the same alarm go when your out of washer fluid!
I lost so much money on my car, and with Stellantis cars depreciating like crazy, and all the issues I personally have experienced, I simply can't afford too get rid of it either, I'm massively up side down on the morgage, and have spent an insane amount on repairs as it is.
Oh, and yes one more love nugget. Almost every time I've complained to the dealership where I live, i get the lovely response, "yeah, that's a well known problem with these cars, but your guarantee has expired, so that will cost you so and so"!
I just write all this because I'm simply amazed how much praise this engine have gotten, but rarely, if all, there's any mention of the massive amount of issues with it!
I'm sorry about your experience but have to question whether these problems still persist on Pure Tech engines, even wet belt ones, after about 2018. PSA changed the belt material several times, and this engine turns up in so many Stellantis models, I wonder why we don't hear of more failures. I've run a Peugeot 208, September 2020 manufacture, for over three years and the belt looks fine (you can see a section through the oil filler), it uses no oil and the spark plugs have lasted. It's low mileage but then the doomsters say it's short journeys that kill it. On the negative side, the stop/start system hardly ever operates. What I'm sure of is that you have to use exactly the right standard and grade of oil
@@piglet5287you bet they are still happening and on mass, my 71 plate crossland is in the dealership as I write this message along with countless others mokka and grand land and the warranty won’t cover it unless your basically taken in on the back of a break down truck it’s so annoying I’ve got to pay for this because I spotted rotten belt before the engine died , take a look on the Vauxhall forums it’s terrible how many people are affected the worse one was a 24 plate crossland 4000 miles check engine light belt all cracked and falling apart , they need exposing for this it’s a nightmare.oh and you mentioned the correct oil needs to be used lots of these people have stuck to the service intervals and so had the correct oil and still they are failing it’s just a stupid ridiculous design, rubber and oil any oil don’t go well together it’s the fact when standing one part of belt is in oil the other dries out I think as well that can’t help
At least 4 engine failures in 8 years? I'm so sorry you've had this experience.
One source I've found helpful over the years is 'Honest John', who have been good at pointing out known faults on used models. I couldn't seem to find a mention of the issues you experienced on their 'What to watch out for' 308 SW page, though.
As of 4 July, at least in the UK, all new electric Peugeot models sold are covered for up to 8 years under their new 'Allure Care' scheme, as long as the car is serviced at a Peugeot dealer every 2 years. This looks very similar to 'Toyota Relax' that has been in place for a few years now.
Unfortunately, Peugeot's new scheme only seems to cover new, electric cars. And as much as I like them, electric cars seem to be depreciating even worse than most ICE models at the moment. To the tune of the Renault Zoe selling brand new for £30k and used for £15k just 1 year later. So I'm not too sure what to suggest for your situation, other than if it were me, having such an experience with the reliability of your 308 would have massively knocked my confidence in Peugeot...
Bad luck. 🤷🏻♂️
I really like these, even if it is an SUV. It's smart and compact. But why do reviewers keep getting aerated about 'scratchy plastics' in cars that are priced to be a value proposition. What were they expecting?
You praised the Kamiq a lot. I don't doubt your word but at least in Portugal I rarely ever see one...
As for the Mokka, they sell quite nicely.
When I am in Spain or anywhere else in Europe I don't see many Kamiqs either ...
I wonder, what gives?
Why doesn't the Kamiq sell better if it is that good?
We wanted to upgrade to this ‘new’ Mokka after having two of the original style. Unfortunately, as a 6’4” guy, I couldn’t fit in the new car behind the wheel. However, I can fit ina Skoda Kamiq, so that’s what we went for. Why did Vauxhall decide to shrink this car ????
Love mine. I have the Mokka Elegance. Called Opel here in South Africa. Love how it sounds and how it drives. Will let it go after 3 years. 😎
Is this a restyling or they just released this in the UK?
this "new" mokka is sold since 2021
How old is this video? The electric Mokka has been available for 3 years...!
Going by his hair style, looks like this was filmed in 1973!
Was thinking the same !
I think it's been uprated.
Had my Mokka e for nearly 3 years. Can't wait to get rid of it!
Had my Mokka e for nearly 3 years. Can't wait to get rid of it!
I have bought mokka in 2021. 1.2 130 hp. Belt on that f.....engine lasted two years. 20 000 km. It disolves in oil where some genius has put him. So far no other complaints, car is nice, it drives nice, but once my varranty expires, its goodbye
So yours is not the same as this one?
Its video review of a car and people mention his hair. Get a grip.
Awful review of a terrible Awful product...
DO NOT BOTHER..
Vauxhall- what rubbish cars AVOID
Doesn’t seem to have been updated in anything but the batteries… ICE engine maybe but really? It’s 2024 vauxhall!!😅 also the video could try to be more precise about the "new" making a comparison.
The 1.2 has the wet cambelt design?
No, I think since the mild hybrid update it's finally a chain.
Should have badged it the Vauxhall Yukka.
Mucka
Far preferable to the silly looking Puma.
I hope its better than the old Mokka, that had terrible reliability issues.
That was a GM product.
I wonder if this 1.2 is the puretech engine with the same unreliable wet belt
@@DJSteveB those Puretech engines are garbage, I only just got rid of my DS3 which had engine issues, Wet belt replaced after I had the car for 5 months at 38k miles. Luckily it was still on Warranty, had the car for a further 2 years but was getting through a lot of oil then was told that I'd either need a new engine or an engine rebuild so sold it to WBAC for £4700 now on autotrader for £7400. Wouldn't touch anything with a Purec**p engine ever again.
@@Steve-gc5nt so does this mean that's these have a better build quality and reliability?
@@pauldarby8398 Yeah, I've heard similar horror stories. Got to watch out for the many Stelantis and Ford Wet Belt engines. They may be efficient on paper, but they are not reliable / durable. The WhatCar bods dont mention which engine this is which is a shame.
Who is this awful reviewer? Did he kidnap Doug? Please bring him back or don't bother.
Boring car, boring review
If you have to pay the Arabs to drive then it's old Tech, give it up and buy an EV
Opel that actually looks good 😂😂
Ill stick to my 2015 mokka 1.7tdi
Trash
So apart from "it looks more modern," and "they do an electric model," there isn't a single thing you could point to where it is better than the old model. Another reason to never trust these basic mass consumer channels. They're more about suburban fads than useful information.
It’s crapper than this blokes haircut. Save yourself 20 grand and buy a 10 year old Skoda yeti instead.
Id rather a Kia soul or Suzuki vitara than both
The Vauxhall Mokka, a truly uninspiring design and horrid to drive, steering is numb and too light, the handling is poor and the finish is sub standard. AVOID!
It's OPEL 💀
Hair
Electric booooooooooooooooo
WTF is 'new' about this???? **unsubscribed**
Time for a haircut?